KR> ELSA & LSA

2008-10-12 Thread Colin Rainey
Ed I believe that the final concensus that was stated here was that there were enough design people who felt that the Kr could be modified into the LSA, ELSA being production type aircraft built to LSA specs. The question was why modify and go through all the trouble when there were already so

KR> ELSA & LSA

2008-10-12 Thread Ed Janssen
asily, regardless of the performance figures found in the R/R literature. Ed Ed Janssen mailto:ejans...@chipsnet.com - Original Message - From: "Colin Rainey" To: Sent: Friday, December 09, 2005 10:28 PM Subject: KR> ELSA & LSA > Ed > I believe that the final concen

KR> ELSA & LSA

2008-10-12 Thread Doug Rupert
Longer wings, speed brake and flaps would surely do the trick by = lowering the stall speed to qualify under LSA. Possibly the KR motorglider wings = with beefed up spar BUT I have to agree with Colin on the other designs. The Zodiac XL with a Corvair for power comes to mind. Doug Rupert I agree w

KR> ELSA & LSA

2008-10-12 Thread Ed Janssen
Doug, How fat your billfold looks is still an important factor though, for many KR enthusiasts. Most of the "other" designs are pretty pricey. For example the Zodiac XL airframe kit alone is about $16K , nearly 3 times the cost of a KR kit, I think. With a nicely built-up Corvair it'll probably

KR> ELSA & LSA

2008-10-12 Thread Dan Heath
You ELSA people should take a look at the Sonex. The prices will surprise you. http://sonex-ltd.com/ For the short time that it has been on the market, there are a lot of them completed. The KR is tough enough if you build it to plans. I have a friend who is building a CH601 ELSA and I would not

KR> ELSA & LSA

2008-10-12 Thread Doug Rupert
Rotax is pricey and way out of my league. Given your desire for the KR I would talk with Mark Langford or one of the guys that knows more about = the KR motorglider. The long wings will slow the top speed as well as lower = the landing speed but are not recommended for the KR2 due to increased = st

KR> ELSA & LSA

2008-10-12 Thread JAMES C FERRIS
Someone posted on here before that Bill Clapp built his KR for about 7 or 8K including the corvair engine and I notice that in Orma's list of performance charistics that 7 out of 18 listed have stall speeds of 51 MPH or less this is the biggest problem and many of these stall speeds may not be at g

KR> ELSA & LSA

2008-10-12 Thread Steve Bray
hese. This IS a high performance aircraft ! Things happen fast and if your to slow for a PPL you are to slow for a KR. Sometimes the truth hurts, deal with it. Steve Bray Jackson, Tennessee >From: "Dan Heath" >Reply-To: KRnet >To: >Subject: Re: KR> ELSA & LSA

KR> ELSA & LSA

2008-10-12 Thread Doug Rupert
Steve all your statement rings true but I read somewhere a while back = where a retired airline pilot had lost his medical and while waiting for re-certification (medical problems to subside) he built a Europa motor-glider to circumvent the regs. In this particular case I would say = go for it BUT

KR> ELSA & LSA

2008-10-12 Thread Ed Janssen
Steve, Besides getting the "fat" ultralights registered and certified, and then pushing their pilots to become more knowledgeable and skillful pilots, the important advantage of the Sport Pilot rating for those who have or have had medical problems, is to be able to continue to fly without taking

KR> ELSA & LSA

2008-10-12 Thread Steve Bray
ood luck on your endeavor. Steve Bray Jackson, Tennessee >From: ejans...@chipsnet.com (Ed Janssen) >Reply-To: KRnet >To: "KRnet" >Subject: Re: KR> ELSA & LSA >Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2005 13:03:25 -0600 > >Steve, > >Besides getting the "fat" ultr

KR> ELSA & LSA

2008-10-12 Thread Ron Smith
Ed Janssen wrote:Steve, Besides getting the "fat" ultralights registered and certified, and then pushing their pilots to become more knowledgeable and skillful pilots, the important advantage of the Sport Pilot rating for those who have or have had medical problems, is to be able to continu

KR> ELSA LSA & Experimental

2008-10-12 Thread Colin & Bev Rainey
The way I read what you cut and pasted is the same thing that has been said all along. If by chance the aircraft receives an Experimental Certificate for operations AS an LSA or ELSA then a Sport Pilot can operate it. If not he is disqualified from its operation even if it is flown solo. I apolo