Very impressive posting!
Lost designs that bothered me was the Charles Fauvel designs. The AV361
is the only design that survived the loss of Charles. Story goes that the
widow of Charles Fauvel actually burned all of his drawings when he died.
Free aircraft drawings can be downloaded he
While illegality may be defined by the strict letter, damages are not.
Damages by copyright infringement are determined mostly by loss
or decrease in revenues. When a copyright holder no longer is
selling or servicing, you might be infringing on copyright but
not imflicting harm as defined by the
I can sympathise with Mike in one aspect - trying to do business with RR is
very frustrating. I tried for several months with faxes, phone calls, etc.
and never got any response. In the end I gave up and some time later I
bought a set of KR2S plans from a KRNet member who was selling his (genuine
Praise be to Langford for throwing the Bum off!
Thank you!
Fred Johnson
Reno, NV
Langford wrote:
I was stuck in an airliner when this email came across the list, but as soon
as I read it, I unsubscribed the guy. We don't need people like that on
this list. He's permanently banned.
This gu
Scott Perkins wrote:
> The question I have not seen answered is whether the KR-1 plans
> are available from the RAND company and if so how much and how long
> does it take and what kind of condition are they in.
Sure they're still available. See http://www.fly-kr.com/kr1.htm for how to
order, a
Scott the plans are still $60.00 I believe, and takes about 4 weeks. At
least that's how long it took to get mine.
Fred Johnson
Reno, NV
The question I have not seen answered is whether the KR-1 plans
are available from the RAND company and if so how much and how long
does it take and what kin
The KR-1 plans are available from Rand Robinson.
They are $65.
Delivery runs from 3-8 weeks, depending on a variety of factors.
The plans are as complete and accurate as they have ever been. They are
more complete and accurate than the original versions, as they come with
many revisions that ha
Scott Perkins wrote:
> The question I have not seen answered is whether the KR-1 plans
> are available from the RAND company and if so how much and how long
> does it take and what kind of condition are they in. IE such as
> complete, hi quality, accurate etc.
Well, Mike, the guy who posted the
hem (they're copies), but an engineering ruler gave me very
good results (as some dimensions are not shown).
Hope this helps
erik.kl...@matrixdginc.com
-Original Message-
From: Scott Perkins [mailto:2sc...@bellsouth.net]
Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2009 8:55 AM
To: KRnet
Subject: KR
The question I have not seen answered is whether the KR-1 plans
are available from the RAND company and if so how much and how long
does it take and what kind of condition are they in. IE such as
complete, hi quality, accurate etc.
Scott
sidney.w...@l-3com.com wrote:
>
> >...is someone trying to
x27;t agree. Ken
Rand was a great man have enough respect to buy the plans the right way.
From: Phillip Matheson
To: KRnet
Sent: Friday, May 22, 2009 3:02:36 AM
Subject: Re: KR> KR-1 Plans Available
Mike, I can only wish 2 things happen to you for thi
To copy someone's plans is stealing. Why not just order them and pay the
small price they cost. Then you can feel good about the whole thing when your
plane is finished.
--- On Fri, 5/22/09, tinya...@aol.com wrote:
From: tinya...@aol.com
Subject: Re: KR> KR-1 Plans Availabl
Original Message-
From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net] On Behalf
Of Glenn Martin
Sent: Friday, May 22, 2009 8:24 AM
To: KRnet
Subject: Re: KR> KR-1 Plans Available
Fred Johnson wrote:
> Jeanette Rand has served the Aviation
> Community for too many year
Fred Johnson wrote:
> Jeanette Rand has served the Aviation
> Community for too many years to have some MORON like you come along and
> totally kill the dream of keeping her husbands design alive. She has
> served us as builders for 35-40 years after the death of Ken, and did
> not have to.
>
Dittos! This is complete BS! Sorry, but it is. It is akin to you copying a
book and giving it away on the internet. The publisher and author would be
screwed. I hope the hammer falls on a little SOB like you!
Fred Johnson
Reno, NV
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Mike, I can only wish 2 things happen to you for this action:
GOOD DEAL!
KR information should be public domain anyway. The original KR is
outdated to the point they are more of a GUIDE than PLANS. I believe this
"loyalty" is misguided and silly. There is a Yahoo group that has a bunch of
free downloadable plans from years past and this might be
ld the plane.
>
> Bill Weir
> - Original Message -
> From: "Gary Lynn Robison"
> To: "KRnet"
> Sent: Friday, May 22, 2009 7:14 AM
> Subject: Re: KR> KR-1 Plans Available
>
>
> This is not the right way.
>
>
> What I receiv
-
From: "Gary Lynn Robison"
To: "KRnet"
Sent: Friday, May 22, 2009 7:14 AM
Subject: Re: KR> KR-1 Plans Available
This is not the right way.
What I received from Rand Robinson arrived in about 30 days
and was enough to put the aircraft together. I think you e
; type project.Far from it.
It requires gray matter on your part. Nights of head scratching and
pondering it is only an outline ... but a good one. Please take the
torrent
down and reconsider this.
Gary
- Original Message -
From: "Mike"
To:
Sent: Friday, May
Not good Mike, I think everyone on this group feels very loyal to the
Rand/Robinson clan, even so this is not our style.
Jannie
Mike wrote:
> Hey Guys,
> I have put a digital set of KR-1 plans up on the internet.
Mike, I can only wish 2 things happen to you for this action:
---
I also have used Rand/Roberson a number of times and have not had any
problem by just sending the money and wait.
I think you have done the wrong thing also.
Phil Matheson
SAAA Ch. 20 http://ww
Mike, I can only wish 2 things happen to you for this action:
1. The Group Owner/Moderator REMOVES YOU from the Group. Your action
from what you call Frustration is a TOTALLY ILLEGAL violation of
International COPYRIGHT LAWS. Jeanette Rand has served the Aviation
Community for too many years to
Hey Guys,
I have put a digital set of KR-1 plans up on the internet. They are
available via bit torrent and the torrents can be downloaded from
www.isohunt.com, www.thepiratebay.org and www.demonoid.com. Demonoid
requires an account which you have to get through invitation but isohunt and
thepira
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