Sounds like the Tatting person is everywhere!!
They are just the same here in Oz - Look at the lady tatting! - when
there are 2 or 3 signs up - in Large Letters - saying Bobbin Lace!
I have decided 90% of the population cannot read!! :))
I did one demo with a tatting lady
I recently acquired a copy of the book Kant uit Vlaanderen en 's Gravenmoer
and an intrigued by the notation with each pattern. An example, translated
for me by a Dutch friend, is as follows:
Aantal paren: 59 Number pairs
Aantal dike draden: 5 Number of thick threads
Aantal spelden: 68
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Sounds like the Tatting person is everywhere!!
Sometimes, when the person concerned is grinning ear to ear, you can
tell it is another lacemaker having you on (I once had a group from
the Ring of Tatters, demonstrating at
Aantal spelden is the number of rows of grid points
in a pattern repeat ie double the number of edge stitches.
If that is not clear g consider that the left hand pair from the last
ground stitch on the left passes out through the left edge gimp and
makes the edge stitch in a pinhole one row below
Yes, you will need lots more than 68 pins!
The number of pins line seems to indicate the number of pins, (counting
down the footside) in the pattern to complete a whole repeat . it's easier
to check on the following pages where the number of pins is lower
Sue
I recently acquired a copy of
More or less the whole pricking on page 145 is one repeat of the pattern.
That pattern has two different sorts of fillings used, so the repeat is
twice as long as I initially thought). I keep losing count but it must be
about 68 dots from the top of the first diamond to the bottom complete
The earliest documented date I have heard so far is 1840's. Dan
Russch-Fischer doesn't post much on any of the lists I'm on any more, but
his page
http://www.tribbler.com/tatman/
includes early printed references. Click on Misc at the bottom, then
scroll down to In Print.
Many tatting books
Hi Jane
Talking of Nottingham lace, someone asked me recently if I knew of handmade
Nottingham Lace. I understood that it was only made by machine. Can
anyone enlighten me?
Lindy in Ireland
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Dear Spiders
When people talk of Irish lace they usually mean Irish Crochet or
Carrickmacross lace. They do not know that Tatting was also taught and made
in here from 1847 around the town of Ardee.
It was made by poor children and as much as 5,000 Pounds was earned for
distribution in that
The
art of tatting may be traced to the 16th century
Italian macrame work, and
is a variation of the punto a gruppo or knotting
stitch. It was done in
France in the 18th century.
If it were done that long ago, HOW did they do it?
What is the oldest reference to a tatting shuttle as
we
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The earliest documented date I have heard so far is 1840's. Dan
Russch-Fischer doesn't post much on any of the lists I'm on any more, but
his page
http://www.tribbler.com/tatman/
includes early
Interesting article on the nottingham lace industry:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/legacies/work/england/nottingham/article_1.shtml
written by Sheila Mason, who, I understand, is one of the leading
authorities on Nottinghm lace.
I believe anything referred to as Nottingham lace is machine made and
I too look forward to the definitive answer from a Dutch member.
Meanwhile, as we seem to be the only people battling the translation
challenge, I still do not see how to reconcile your counting with the
simple pattern on page 146, where there are no variations in the repeats,
and there seem
According to the International Lace Dictionary, aantal is number and speld is
pin. Obviously the ...en ending will alter the meaning somewhat.
As Sue says, the number given definitely equals the count of the footside
pinholes of one complete pattern repeat. What I'm trying to work out why
--- Noelene Lafferty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I recently acquired a copy of the book Kant uit
Vlaanderen en 's Gravenmoer
Aantal spelden: 68 Number of pins
I don't understand the Number of pins line. Can
anybody offer an
explanation? Surely one would need more than 68
pins!
When I
From: Jane Partridge [EMAIL PROTECTED]
But, and I have said this before, there is a reason for the confusion
in
the UK at least. One of the books on the history of the Nottingham
Laceindustry refers to tattings - being odd lengths of *machine-
made* lace
- edgings and insertions. So, to many
According to the International Lace Dictionary, aantal is number and speld
is
pin. Obviously the ...en ending will alter the meaning somewhat.
-en makes it plural
As Sue says, the number given definitely equals the count of the footside
pinholes of one complete pattern repeat.
I asked
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Does the precise
number of pinholes make a lot of difference. ...
Perhaps the end use of the lace governed
whether it was a short repeat or a more ornate
pattern.
I'm going to make a wild guess on this. The
traditional end use of this lace was on a bonnet.
Dear all
I can remember being told by an interested visitor when I was demonstrating,
that her mother had made Nottingham Lace. She was quite insistent. Since I
was making bobbin lace I had to accept that she meant the same process (of
course she might have meant tatting!.) I concluded
In a message dated 5/30/06 5:02:25 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
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I can remember being told by an interested visitor when I was
demonstrating, that her mother had made Nottingham Lace. She was quite
insistent. Since
I was making bobbin lace I had to accept that she
Many thanks on all the feedback on this. The concept that the number of
pins denotes the length of the section or repeat makes sense. My addendum
LOKK book with the patterns for the two caps in it says the hul cap needs
one ell of lace, which is about 3 repeats, so you would really have to
be
Jane P saidSometimes, when the person concerned is grinning ear to ear, you
can
tell it is another lacemaker having you on..
Yes, I have had that happen a couple of times, too!!! --- and I was a bit
naughty and did that to someone once. I used to knit for a wool company,
checking the
You can't half tell that Canada wasn't invaded during the 2nd World War!
First, we survived being born to mothers who smoked and/or drank while they
carried us. They took aspirin, ate blue cheese dressing, tuna from a can,
and
didn't get tested for diabetes.
Mothers in the forties and first
Hi Malvary et al,
This made me chuckle!I was born midway in the 40s, and remember the
bikes and accidents well.As well as one of my friends (?) feeding me
poisonous berries to see if they really were poisonous!
But - I was demonstrating in our village last Sunday, and caught up with
Since Jean has raised the topic of rationing peole might be interested in
what was allowed. This info was in a paper recently.
Each person was allowed 16 points per month to use on from whichever food
items were available wanted at the shop they had registered with (and no
other.)
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