Hi Alison
Well done, floral Bucks is a big challenge.
Happy lacemaking
Alex
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Hi Arachnids
When I was in a workshop learning Honiton lace from Lauretta Clark I did
something looked not quite right. I asked if I should take it out and she
said 'Can you live with it?'. I took mine out and remade the section. I now
use this answer myself, then my students can choose for
Thank you, Alex ;)
On 10/29/11, Alex Stillwell alexstillw...@talktalk.net wrote:
Happy lacemaking (with or without mistakes)
--
Bev in Shirley BC, near Sooke on beautiful Vancouver Island, west
coast of Canada
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Hi Arachnids
Re - The full quote is It has colored diagrams for the whole thing, which is
sort of paint by numbers,
The patterns with fully colour coded charts are very useful for those who wish
to make lace without access to teachers, but personally as a teacher I do not
like them. I have had
I have been taught by a variety of tutors (not speaking about lace here) and
felt that they are probably good at their subject but no good at teaching.
Others just can teach,
On here we hear the praise and the joy that comes across from so many
people who have attended classes with people who
Every student has different expectations from a class/tutor. Some are truly
dedicated like the Japanese students but some come for a day out whilst others
want to run before they can walk. Others may ask why doesn't mine look like
yours but don't touch their lace at home, from one lesson to
I agree, a teacher must coax a student along, especially in their early
days.When I first started teaching I was told to give praise as well as
criticism and this is what I do, especially to the new students but also to
students who are learning something new. A carrot is better than a
So that's where Maureen gets it from!!! I usually take it out, but
not always
Sue in East Yorks
On 30 Oct 2011, at 06:14, Alex Stillwell wrote:
Hi Arachnids
When I was in a workshop learning Honiton lace from Lauretta Clark I
did
something looked not quite right. I asked if I should
Alex wrote:
In my experience the majority of lacemkers will follow the diagrams
faithfully without understanding what is happening and also they believe it
is
the only way the pattern can be made.
When travelling abroad to teach, a tutor has no idea of the
experience/standard of work that each
Yes that is where I get it from. I do like student's lace to be perfect
but 'it is pleasure' and 'if they can live with it then fine'. Now what
haven't you taken out Sue???
Maureen
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From: Sue Duckles s...@duckles.me.uk
To: Alex Stillwell
Oh I so agree Catherine.
Maureen
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From: Catherine Barley catherinebar...@btinternet.com
To: lace@arachne.com
Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2011 9:42 AM
Subject: [lace] diagrams
Alex wrote:
In my experience the majority of lacemkers will follow the diagrams
Hi Arachnids
Re: diagrams
I do not class enlarging a pricking and drawing your own thread routes as
working from a chart. When you draw diagrams for yourself you are using your
own knowledge of making lace to produce them; you are not relying on someone's
else to tell you what to do.
Keep
Hi Fellow Lacemakers,
The above lace group is holding their annual Lace Day on the 12th November
2012, at Cottingham Road Baptist Church Chanterlands Avenue Kingston Upon Hull
HU5 4AY United Kingdom. Although Kingston Upon Hull is a city in its own
right and also has a port from which North Sea
Also you are one of the 'thinkers' ... Many do not and
faithfully continue follow diagrams for years without
thinking about how it all works. They are my concern.
Why worry so much? One mans ceiling is another mans floor. Of course you can
try to encourage.
Someone called teachers with
While in Brugge this summer working diagrams were described to me as the
Esperanto of lace by one of the shop keepers. Without these technical
drawings our lace world would be much poorer and not as accessible; I don't
read Dutch, Flemish or German but I have books on my shelves in these
Hi Fellow Lacemakers
I forgot to say that the opening times are 10.a.m. to 4.p.m. and it is 12th
november 2011.Sorry typo.
Maureen
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From: Maureen Bromley maur...@roger.karoo.co.uk
To: lace@arachne.com
Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2011 11:21 AM
Subject: [lace]
This has been a fascinating and very illuminating discussion--thanks to
everyone who contributed so far.
One general (but not absolute) pattern
(pun) I see in the posts is the difference between those working the complex
and less regular Belgian laces and those working point ground or piece
Hello All! We may need to agree to disagree here. I do best when I am in a
workshop get some expert supervision. At home, my brain turns to mush it
isn't long before the whole thing escapes me. Re-reading my notes my
self-colored drawings doesn't always click. In that case, pre-colored
Two points that I don't think were mentioned were that it is easier to
dispense with diagrams if you tend to make only one kind of lace. In the US it
is not unusual to make all different kinds of lace depending on who might
be teaching within a couple hundred miles of where you live. So one
What I really like is a lacing CD which I have a few of them. Yes, I have
Holly Van Sciver that live about one hour and a half from me. But I don't have
a car any more so I have to have a teacher in my home. What I like about the
Lacing CDs is the teacher on the CD lets say Christine Springet
I love this! I wish I'd heard it when I was younger because it would have
made some of the tough stuff in life easier. A ceiling isn't necessarily the
furthest we can reach - it is just higher than where we can reach right now.
Why worry so much? One man's ceiling is another man's floor.
All this talk of slavishly following diagrams and thinking that is the only
way to work a pattern has me perplexed. I don't get it. I learned bobbin
lace from Doris Southard's book. I enlarged her prickings and dotted them out
on 4/inch graph paper, and worked them in 10/2 linen. Her
Sherry is not the only person who finds that travel to classes is a
problem.
There was some discussion at Ithaca about the fact that a major impediment
to learning lace is that here in the US, at least, we are very spread out
and it is costly in time and money to travel to lace classes.
Hi Devon -
It seems that great minds *do* think alike.
This summer, Anny Noben-Slegers came to the US in mid-June for her first class,
teaching a week at LASB, and ended in early August, teaching at IOLI in
Bethesda. There were several shorter teaching venues in between but all
involved
Clay and Devon
How exactly does this Skype thing work? I've heard of it but never actually
seen it in operation. Does it just require a camera attached to your screen,
or does it require a special studio with special equipment? Does it work like
a news report on TV where people in different
Hi Everybody:
Just wanted to say this sounds like such a great idea - the teacher can see you
and answer questions in real time just as if she were in the class. I know some
people who train hard for athletics, and they have a top-quality coach even
though they live in a rural area - they get
I received this privately. Does anyone know about Weavolution?
I haven't experienced it but the weavers on Weavolution have been doing
classes--I assume on Skype--for maybe a couple of years now. You might check
with some of them and see how it works.
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I don't see what the fuss is about with coloured diagrams, it is just
another tool to help me learn. I live 3,000+ kilometres from a teacher so I
learn from whatever resource I can access. This may be a picture on the net,
Arachne, Gumlace, travelling lacemaker, a book, a pricking, whatever.
Clay thank you so much for making the comment using continental laces as
your example. I agree with all you say concerning the need for coloured
diagrams. Further when working lace from the Dutch 17th century where
the pricking consists of a few isolated pins, the diagram is essential.
I
Maybe Clay should answer this, since she really skypes. I have seen my
daughter skyping with her boyfriend, he on his iphone, she on my husband's
ipad. But that is just a two way situation. Debra Jenny claims she skyped with
her daughter when the daughter was in France. The daughter was
Skype is a great idea, although there are some difficulties that come with
online teaching.
Firstly, in any class larger than 5 or so students, it becomes necessary to
mute everyone but the teacher due to background noise, similar to a
conference call. Once everyone is muted, it is incredibly
Katelyn Schreyer krschre...@gmail.com wrote:
Skype is a great idea, although there are some difficulties that come with
online teaching.
Firstly, in any class larger than 5 or so students, it becomes necessary to
mute everyone but the teacher due to background noise,
Secondly, students in an
Hi All,
This is Jonathan, Aurelia's son. Just in case any of you don't know, Mother was
moved out of her home following her last hospitalization, and now lives in the
Heart Lands Senior Living Center, 3004 North Ridge Road, Ellicott City, MD. You
can reach her via her cell phone, 443-388-1713,
Hello Jenny and everyone
Today I pulled out the pins of my black Halloween cat from the pattern
kindly offered by Janice via www.jblace.com in her pattern gallery
I altered the feet to give it tippy-toes so that it could balance on a
Torchon sampler pumpkin of my design, though with other
Hi All,
The best thing about coloured diagrams is that it allows many more lace books
to be printed, the one edition catering for up to 5 language groups.
I am sure I am not the only one whose mind works quicker that than her hands,
plans to do more lace have to be shelved, or to put off
I think people come to lacemaking the same way they do to anything else in
the world. There are some people who love to be creative and will want to
dive in immediately to see how the lace works. There are also lots of
people that want to learn enough of the language to be able to work a
certain
Devon,
I think there are different types of formats. Some classes are
completely remote, others you have occasional meeting times, and other
times you all meet regularly.
This is how I would imagine it:
I would envision a teacher putting out a class at a certain
time/day of
Dear Spiders,
I hope you're enjoying your lace, wherever you are. I would like to
post two gentle reminders:
1. Please trim your posts! Some of the postings are getting very long
because earlier postings are not being trimmed. I realise that Gmail
users have to think about this because Gmail
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