Just because he studied them in the early 1800s I would think they started
before quite a while before then. A question to the curator at the Lace Guild
may well help. Or maybe look at Santina Leveys book, Lace, as she was at the V
& A in London for many years. Although their lace collectio
Devon, Thank you for correcting this. I am away from my books at the
moment. It makes much more sense that he studied the point ground laces in
the early 1800s, when there is no question they were made. Another sample
of disinformation in some of the old articles.
Karen - in sunny and cool Delaware
This topic is covered in Lace Machines and Machine Laces by Pat Earnshaw, p.
66 and p. 67. This claims that John Heathcoat was born in 1783 (not 1732!) and
died in 1861. The first warp frame making marketable net, which resembled
knitting, was made in 1795 when Heathcoat was 12. He seems to have re
Lorelei,
I agree completely. I have never read anywhere that the lace made in
Buckingham in 1750 was point ground. What made me pause on this article was
that Mr. Heathcoat supposedly learned to make lace from the Buckingham lace
makers around 1753 and imitated the point ground on his Loughborough
evidence of what that
lace looked like.
Lorelei
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Thank you for the comments on the point ground. Hopefully there will be
more. As Devon and Lorelei say, it makes sense that due to fashion changes
in the late 1700s to much simpler and lighter laces and clothes in general,
the point ground provided a lighter background for the motifs. At the same
t
I agree with Devon
Lorelei
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Dear Karen,
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Subject: [lace] Lace: Point ground laces
It is with great interest that I have followed the conversations about
Mechlin, Valenciennes, Binche, etc. and am wondering if the conversation can
continue with point ground. So far, I have not been able to find a date
(approximate) for the start of
7;real' angles might have been.
I would love to see what you come up with though on the
point ground issue!
Take care and talk to you soon.
bobbi
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The angles of the samples are anywhere from about 33 to 68, sometimes in
the same piece! Some of this might be due to distortion of the samples
between being made in 1789 and being mounted on acid-free board in the
1970s or 1980s at the Library of Congress. Or the prickings might have been
distorte
Dear Karen,
It would not seem that it would be that hard to find out something like this,
yet I have been looking in my books for confirmation of my gut feeling about
it, and am surprised at how difficult it is to verify.
My gut feeling is that it arose in the last two decades of the 18th century
w
Hi Karen,
What are the angles of the grounds in the Ipswich lace samples?
Nancy
Connecticut, USA
On Thu, Feb 16, 2017 at 3:35 PM, Karen Thompson
wrote:
> It is with great interest that I have followed the conversations about
> Mechlin, Valenciennes, Binche, etc. and am wondering if the convers
It is with great interest that I have followed the conversations about
Mechlin, Valenciennes, Binche, etc. and am wondering if the conversation
can continue with point ground. So far, I have not been able to find a date
(approximate) for the start of point ground laces. The closest I have come
is l
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