Re: L&I The Rodney King Beating - The Other Story part two

1998-04-27 Thread Sue Hartigan
Sue Hartigan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Hi Joan: The name of the truck driver is Reginald Denny. And he got nothing (I don't think) except for what Bill Cosby has made sure that he gets. :( Sue > Hello Vi, > > I found it unfair to the taxpayers that King and his lawyers made so much > mon

L&I A Matter Of Hearts -Mary K. Letourneau TIME

1998-04-27 Thread Sue Hartigan
Sue Hartigan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: An intimate look at the illicit affair that has pitted the vagaries of love against the unsentimentality of the law Mary K. Letourneau sat on the steps in front of her home, staring west across a glorious sunset over Puget Sound. Inside with a friend wa

Re: L&I Justice

1998-04-27 Thread Joan Moyer
"Joan Moyer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Hello Sue, That's where my feeling about life imprisonment comes from. Rehab is a different issue if you are not going to be released. The question then becomes punishment and justice. What best serves those two goals? I think sometimes LWP and somet

Re: L&I Justice

1998-04-27 Thread Joan Moyer
"Joan Moyer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Hello Sody, You make a valid point as to how merciful LWP really is. Also, a point about the goal of rehab when the individual will not be released or will be released many so very many years in the future. I don't have a hard and fast position on th

L&I Jokes for Monday

1998-04-27 Thread Sue Hartigan
Sue Hartigan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: I wish... A recently divorced woman is walking along the beach contemplating how badly treated she got over the divorce settlement, when she spies a magic lamp washing up onshore. She rubs the lamp, and out pops a magical genie!! The genie notices her an

Re: L&I The Rodney King Beating - The Other Story part two

1998-04-27 Thread Joan Moyer
"Joan Moyer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Hello Vi, I found it unfair to the taxpayers that King and his lawyers made so much money from the incident. I remember reading at the time the lawyers were criticized for charging an inordinate amount of money. What was the case where a white truck dr

Re: L&I Back Home

1998-04-27 Thread Joan Moyer
"Joan Moyer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Hello Vi, I just bought 32 mgs of memory which will increase my present 16 mgs considerably. The only thing that will keep peace in this family is a second computer! I guess the marriage will demand that. Joan

Re: L&I Welcome to two members

1998-04-27 Thread Joan Moyer
"Joan Moyer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Welcome to both Mike and Kelly. Nice to have you join us. Joan -- > From: Kathy E <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: Law <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: L&I Welcome to two members > Date: Monday, April 27, 1998 7:02 PM > > Kathy

Re: L&I Arnelle Simpson arrested

1998-04-27 Thread Joan Moyer
"Joan Moyer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Hello Yvonne, Arnelle was not the driver? Were there no witnesses as to whether any other person was in the car at the time and could have been the driver? If not, it appears they must believe the courts and the public are absolute fools. But then, wh

Re: L&I The Rodney King Beating - The Other Story part two

1998-04-27 Thread Joan Moyer
"Joan Moyer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Hello Bill, Seems as if Mr. King did quite nicely financially despite breaking the law. And who said crime didn't pay! Joan -- > From: William J. Foristal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >

Re: L&I Back Home

1998-04-27 Thread Joan Moyer
"Joan Moyer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Hello Bill, Maybe so. It would certainly be a more comfortable place to live. :) Joan -- > From: William J. Foristal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: L&I Back Home > Date: Monday, April 27, 19

Re: L&I Back Home

1998-04-27 Thread Sue Hartigan
Sue Hartigan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Hi Bill: Unfortunately I don't think it really made that much of an impression on some. I watched the cops arrest the illegals here in Riverside on television, and they knew there was a news copter right above them (they looked up at it several time), b

Re: L&I Back Home

1998-04-27 Thread Sue Hartigan
Sue Hartigan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Hi Bill: I think that the young teens of today are going to be the ones to either eliminate racism, or at least minimize it. They are a lot more tolerant that we were, and the generations before us. Sue > > Hi Joan, > > I guess we should be encourage

Re: L&I Jones Appeal Difficult, But Not Impossible

1998-04-27 Thread Sue Hartigan
Sue Hartigan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Hi Bill: Probably. But he did manage to hit and kill the girl he said rebuffed him. :( Sue > Hi Sue, > > Nothing in any of the stories I read mentioned scopes. Perhaps the > accuracy was more a function of how closely the kids were clustered > toge

Re: L&I Ex-Miss America apologizes to first lady over alleged one-night

1998-04-27 Thread Sue Hartigan
Sue Hartigan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Hi Bill: Well they aren't going to get this one. She left the country and is in hiding until this thing is over. Even if they do find her, she said, in a phone call to Jane Pauley they can't subpoena her where she is anyway. Sue > Hi Sue, > > Yeah,

Re: L&I Justice

1998-04-27 Thread Sue Hartigan
Sue Hartigan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Hi Sody: A district attorney, the other night on Nightline, said that the law and prison aren't about rehabilitation. They are about justice and punishment. Sue > Bill : > How can you justify putting anyone in a cell for twenty five years?? I > s

Re: L&I Whitewater Witness Goes on Trial in Arkansas

1998-04-27 Thread Sue Hartigan
Sue Hartigan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Hi Bill: I never even thought of that, if he has evidence why does he even need her in the first place. Unless he needs to back up that evidence. But if that were the case then it would be her word against his. Sue > HI Sue, > > Yep, and the Clinton

Re: L&I Welcome to two members

1998-04-27 Thread Sue Hartigan
Sue Hartigan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Hi Mike and Kelly: Welcome to the list, and jump in anytime. I know you will enjoy it here. Sue Kathy wrote: Please welcome Mike and Kelly to the law list :) >>> -- Two rules in life: 1. Don't tell people everything you know. 2. Subscribe/Uns

L&I Justice

1998-04-27 Thread Richard Soderstrom
Richard Soderstrom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Bill wrote Hi Sody, I take no pleasure in nor do I get any satisfaction when anyone dies. But I DO see the value and necessity in making sure that certain people are locked away and never allowed to walk free in our society. And I DO see the need

Re: L&I The Rodney King Beating - The Other Story part two

1998-04-27 Thread Sue Hartigan
Sue Hartigan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Hi Vi: I think that this is one issue that the two of us are never going to really agree on. I respect your beliefs on this, and in fact understand how you feel about most of it. So I guess we will just have to agree to disagree on this one. :) Sue

Re: L&I Arnelle Simpson arrested

1998-04-27 Thread Sue Hartigan
Sue Hartigan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Hi Vi: What is so sad about this whole thing is the fact that Simpson could have cared less about his family before this happened, and the same being true since he was released from jail. He never visited any of them, nor sent them money or anything. W

Re: Attachment Disorder was L&I Jones Appeal Difficult, But Not Impossible

1998-04-27 Thread Sue Hartigan
Sue Hartigan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Hi Vi: Geeze what happened to the kid? Did he just live on the streets or was he put into some kind of institution? Sue > Hi Jackie and Sue, > > I saw a case on TV that would fit this description. A nice, wholesome > famiily adopted a baby boy who,de

Re: L&I Back Home

1998-04-27 Thread Sue Hartigan
Sue Hartigan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Hi Joan: A while back I found the radio transmission on the web, but I can't remember now where it was that I found it. I do remember that there was something about "gorillas" in it, but can't remember the rest of it. Sue > > Hello Bill, > > Despite

Re: [Fwd: L&I Noe: Update]

1998-04-27 Thread Sue Hartigan
Sue Hartigan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Hi Ron: I don't think that they had the Miranda Rights back then. I don't know why they didn't accept her confession, but they never did. But she recanted her confession, and was never charged with any of the murders. Sue > Of course she killed them,

Re: L&I Arnelle Simpson arrested

1998-04-27 Thread Sue Hartigan
Sue Hartigan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Hi Joan: I think that is what really was so sad about all of that trial. How innocent people were dragged through the mud. I believe that the family not only knew, but that Simpson himself may have told some of the members of the family what happened

Re: L&I Arnelle Simpson arrested

1998-04-27 Thread Sue Hartigan
Sue Hartigan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Hi Doc: I have to admit that it would make interesting television viewing, again. Sue > > Sue, honey, don't believe everything you read, even on the internet. Or maybe > especially on the internet. > Doc -- Two rules in life: 1. Don't tell people

Re: L&I One of the Quads just died

1998-04-27 Thread Sue Hartigan
Sue Hartigan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Hi Vi: I totally agree. What is done is done. And to have anything happen to those babies now would be heartbreaking for any mother. :) Sue > > Hi Doc, > > I don't approve of what she did, but if she loses her brood after what > she went through to

Re: [Fwd: L&I Noe: Update]

1998-04-27 Thread Viola Provenzano
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Viola Provenzano) writes: Hi Doc, You guys are killing me with your funny sayins! Vi __ You wrote: . . .<<< I've never really had a belly button, innie or outie. Surely that makes me a deprived child, doesn't it, and excuses any awful things

Re: L&I One of the Quads just died

1998-04-27 Thread Viola Provenzano
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Viola Provenzano) writes: Hi Doc, I don't approve of what she did, but if she loses her brood after what she went through to have them I'm going to feel sympathy for her with her broken hopes and dreams. Vi "What the world needs more of is not love, but justice." Anon. ___

Re: L&I Arnelle Simpson arrested

1998-04-27 Thread Viola Provenzano
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Viola Provenzano) writes: Vi "What the world needs more of is not love, but justice." Anon. __ _ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. G

L&I Doc-One of quadruplets born to 55-year-old mother reportedly dies

1998-04-27 Thread Sue Hartigan
Sue Hartigan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: April 27, 1998 SAN DIEGO -- One of the premature quadruplets born to a 55-year-old single woman through the help of fertility treatments has apparently died. KFMB-TV reported that a girl, weighing about 10½ ounces, died Sunday. Her two sisters and bro

Re: L&I One of the Quads just died

1998-04-27 Thread Sue Hartigan
Sue Hartigan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Hi Doc: I'm confused too. :) But that is just what CBS/LA announced. The hospital isn't giving any information, so the information that the media is getting may be more confused that you and I are. Sue > > I thought it was the boy who weighed less t

Re: L&I One of the Quads just died

1998-04-27 Thread DocCec
DocCec <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: In a message dated 98-04-27 21:11:26 EDT, you write: << One of the quads born in SD to the 55 year old woman just died. A little girl weighing 10.5 oz just died. The mother was released today. The rest of the babies are still in ICU in critical condition

Re: L&I Arnelle Simpson arrested

1998-04-27 Thread DocCec
DocCec <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: In a message dated 98-04-27 19:57:34 EDT, you write: << What I would love to hear, and hope they televise this one so I can, is how in the world Cochran is possibly going to explain away the guy coming immediately out of his smashed in house and talking to A

Re: [Fwd: L&I Noe: Update]

1998-04-27 Thread DocCec
DocCec <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: In a message dated 98-04-27 17:27:34 EDT, you write: << Oh, I did not intend that as a guess at why you have none :-). My first guess would be an umbilical herniorrhaphy. Now I still have two guesses left :-) Ron >> Got it in one. At birth, so I've neve

Re: L&I Arnelle Simpson arrested

1998-04-27 Thread DocCec
DocCec <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: In a message dated 98-04-27 17:46:30 EDT, you write: << Oh Geeze...she was sitting in the drivers seat, and the guy who lived there came out of his house to see what happened. She started apologizing right off the bat about it. LOL Oh weel, I bet Cochra

Re: L&I Arnelle Simpson arrested

1998-04-27 Thread Yvonne
"Yvonne " <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Yup. The BH police will have to prove everything: that Arnelle was driving, entered the hospital, fight against disclosure of blood tests etc. Cochran will argue that she was home in bed. Prove that her car wasn't stolen! -Original Message- From:

L&I One of the Quads just died

1998-04-27 Thread Sue Hartigan
Sue Hartigan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: One of the quads born in SD to the 55 year old woman just died. A little girl weighing 10.5 oz just died. The mother was released today. The rest of the babies are still in ICU in critical condition. CBS/LA just announced Due -- Two rules in life:

L&I Starr Gets Lewinsky's Credit Record

1998-04-27 Thread Sue Hartigan
Sue Hartigan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Starr Gets Lewinsky's Credit Record > WASHINGTON (AP) -- Whitewater prosecutors have obtained > the credit records of former White House intern Monica > Lewinsky and four other people in the investigation, an > att

L&I Godmom Slapped With Gun Violation

1998-04-27 Thread Sue Hartigan
Sue Hartigan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Godmom Slapped With Gun Violation > GREENSBORO, N.C. (AP) -- The godmother of a little boy > who was shot to death by a playmate on his sixth > birthday was charged Monday with failing to keep a gun > out of the ha

Re: L&I Arnelle Simpson arrested

1998-04-27 Thread Viola Provenzano
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Viola Provenzano) writes: Hi Sue, Now whose being funny? :)) Vi "What the world needs more of is not love, but justice." Anon. __ You wrote: <<>> http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] Subscribe/Unsubscribe,

Re: L&I Welcome to two members

1998-04-27 Thread Viola Provenzano
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Viola Provenzano) writes: Hi Mike and Kelly, Faith and Begorra it's good to have a couple of Irish come aboard.! Enjoy your e-mail and we know you'll give as good as ya get! Vi "What the world needs more of is not love, but justice." Anon. ___

Re: L&I Arnelle Simpson arrested

1998-04-27 Thread Sue Hartigan
Sue Hartigan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Hi Terry: What I would love to hear, and hope they televise this one so I can, is how in the world Cochran is possibly going to explain away the guy coming immediately out of his smashed in house and talking to Arnelle who was behind the wheel of *her* c

Re: [Fwd: L&I Noe: Update]

1998-04-27 Thread Mike
"Mike" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Hi Ron, Just saw your post about your "downsizing" experience, and realized that I was explaining things to someone who already knows far more than I about genetics. Sorry 'bout that. TTFN Mike <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subscribe/Unsubscribe, ema

Re: L&I The Rodney King Beating - The Other Story part two

1998-04-27 Thread Viola Provenzano
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Viola Provenzano) writes: Hi Bill, Seems to me they paid for NOT breaking the law. Just as Rodney King was the law-breaker, it is the cops that got tried and went to jail. Ole Rodney ended up smelling like a rose, a millionaire free to continue his dissolute lifestyle. Th

Re: [Fwd: L&I Noe: Update]

1998-04-27 Thread Mike
"Mike" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Hi Folks, Ron wrote: --- > Mike: I am now among the very special people who have visited your > referenced website, thank you. As you know, there are inherited and > acquired forms of mitochondrial disease and we certainly do not deny the > existence of

Re: L&I The Rodney King Beating - The Other Story part two

1998-04-27 Thread Viola Provenzano
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Viola Provenzano) writes: HI sUE, To repeat myself ad nauseum it is NOT the tape that tells the whole story. When you see the tape you are seeing the so-called violence out of context. As for the police dept. now using the RK video in its training, I don't doubt it. Police

Re: L&I Back Home

1998-04-27 Thread Viola Provenzano
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Viola Provenzano) writes: Hi Kathy, Joan and Biill, The police department sets the standards as to what is or is not the correct policy for their officers when subduing a felon. It is my understanding that the behavior of the police in the Rodney King arrest fell within tho

Re: L&I Back Home

1998-04-27 Thread Viola Provenzano
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Viola Provenzano) writes: Hi Joan, I happened to mention your computer problrm to the Sheriff. He recommends you talk to a computer teckie and consider adding a new hard drive which should allow you and youe husband all the use the two of you will probably ever need, (Hope

Re: L&I The Rodney King Beating - The Other Story part two

1998-04-27 Thread Viola Provenzano
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Viola Provenzano) writes: Vi "What the world needs more of is not love, but justice." Anon. __ _ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-m

Re: L&I Also Great for Slugs and Mushrooms

1998-04-27 Thread Viola Provenzano
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Viola Provenzano) writes: Hi Ron, Sorry about that, but I get them too. The monitor screen goes blank after I have been typing and I'm not allowed to mail a message. I live with a benign but mischievious ghost I call " RC," so I blame it on him." :) Vi "What the world

L&I Welcome to two members

1998-04-27 Thread Kathy E
Kathy E <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Hi all :) Please welcome Mike and Kelly to the law list :) Mike sent me the Noe Update that I posted to the list and he then joined the list to answer any questions anyone has concerning this :) Kelly is a friend of mine that used to lurk on this list but

L&I New Trial for the list, locally tried

1998-04-27 Thread Kathy E
Kathy E <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Hi all :) Today a new trial started here in Virginia Beach, I will be covering it for the list, the reason I am interested in this is I live about 6 minutes from Regent University which is a law school here in VA that is owned by Pat Robertson, recently it wa

Re: Jonesboro--guns was L&I Jones Appeal Difficult, But Not Impossible

1998-04-27 Thread hallinan
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Just for the record, Sue. German shepherds have killed more kids than any other dog I have read, far more than pit bulls. It could be because they are so common but I would also attribute it to their willingness to run in packs. I think pit bulls suffer more from a

Re: L&I Jones Appeal Difficult, But Not Impossible

1998-04-27 Thread Ronald Helm
"Ronald Helm" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >Nothing in any of the stories I read mentioned scopes. Perhaps the >accuracy was more a function of how closely the kids were clustered >together and the shooting was more directional than aimed. > >Bill Initial reports mentioned a 30.06 with a scope

Re: [Fwd: L&I Noe: Update]

1998-04-27 Thread Ronald Helm
"Ronald Helm" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Hi Ron: > >There is something here that is getting lost. She admitted to have >killed them. She confessed to smothering them. Then took back her >confession. > >Sue Of course she killed them, why would she confess if she hadn't. Just like that "Ange

Re: L&I Arnelle Simpson arrested

1998-04-27 Thread hallinan
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: >"Yvonne " <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > >Nope. According to the scuttle, Cochran says it wasn't Arnelle. And >furthermore, Arnelle wasn't drunk. So, the call is out now for the person >who was behind the driver's seat. Ahhh. The Real Killer returns. :-} >Fr

Re: L&I Gotta Love the HMO's

1998-04-27 Thread Sue Hartigan
Sue Hartigan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Hi Ron: I was in on the ground floor of the HMO thing. It started out as a great idea, but within a year there were problems. I know some really good docs that have left medicine because of this thing. In fact one that was really good left the count

Re: L&I Arnelle Simpson arrested

1998-04-27 Thread Sue Hartigan
Sue Hartigan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Hi Yvonne: I'm sorry but this is funny. He probably will get away with it too. :( Sue > Nope. According to the scuttle, Cochran says it wasn't Arnelle. And > furthermore, Arnelle wasn't drunk. So, the call is out now for the person > who was be

Re: L&I Arnelle Simpson arrested

1998-04-27 Thread Yvonne
"Yvonne " <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Nope. According to the scuttle, Cochran says it wasn't Arnelle. And furthermore, Arnelle wasn't drunk. So, the call is out now for the person who was behind the driver's seat. -Original Message- From: Sue Hartigan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAI

Re: L&I Arnelle Simpson arrested

1998-04-27 Thread Sue Hartigan
Sue Hartigan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Hi Yvonne: Oh Geeze...she was sitting in the drivers seat, and the guy who lived there came out of his house to see what happened. She started apologizing right off the bat about it. LOL Oh weel, I bet Cochran figures out a way to get her off. Maybe

Re: L&I Gotta Love the HMO's

1998-04-27 Thread Ronald Helm
"Ronald Helm" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: I sure wish there were more Dr. Selfs. Very glad there is one. It is not as easy as some imagine to sue. Thanks for the article, Ron. Best, Terry As you probably know, I was "downsized" by a large staff model HMO ( 900 docs working for Group Healt

Re: Jonesboro--guns was L&I Jones Appeal Difficult, But Not Impossible

1998-04-27 Thread Sue Hartigan
Sue Hartigan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Hi Terry: Chows are very unpredictable dogs I agree. I don't have any problem with the one that I have, nor the one before her, but I certainly would never suggest one as a pet to anyone. She as well, as her predecessor, is a one person dog. She will

Re: L&I Arnelle Simpson arrested

1998-04-27 Thread Sue Hartigan
Sue Hartigan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Hi Terry: I had not heard that she wouldn't go over to the Browns. I did hear about Justin's play though. :( I saw pictures of Sydney the other day when Simpson was taking that interviewer around town. They couldn't get into a restaurant to eat so th

Re: L&I Arnelle Simpson arrested

1998-04-27 Thread Yvonne
"Yvonne " <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Don't know if you've all heard the latest scuttle. A "reliable source" faxed the local KABC radio talk station early this a.m. Purported story is that the Simpson family has hired Mr Johnny to defend Arnelle. The proactive defense will be that the enti

L&I "Goodbye, My Little Ones"

1998-04-27 Thread Sue Hartigan
Sue Hartigan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Has anyone heard of two cases of mass baby killings: Marybeth Tinning killed nine of her babies and got away with it for 14 years, and Waneta Hoyt killed five of her babies and got away with it until the DA finally exposed her. I just found two books th

Re: L&I Arnelle Simpson arrested

1998-04-27 Thread hallinan
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: >Sue Hartigan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >Terry was just saying that in pictures of the family, Sydney looked very >protective of her father. Much more, Sue. It was reported that Sydney would not visit the Browns when Justin did, that she was particularly vehement i

Re: [Fwd: L&I Noe: Update]

1998-04-27 Thread Ronald Helm
"Ronald Helm" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >Good guess, Ron, but wrong. Don't worry -- you get two more. >Doc > Oh, I did not intend that as a guess at why you have none :-). My first guess would be an umbilical herniorrhaphy. Now I still have two guesses left :-) Ron 99 percent of lawyers

Re: Jonesboro--guns was L&I Jones Appeal Difficult, But Not Impossible

1998-04-27 Thread hallinan
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi Sue and Jackie, It may just be a peculiarity of Jackie's insurance company. Or maybe it is regional. We have a German Shepherd pup that will not raise our rates. If we had a pit bull it would not either but I am told if we lived in New York City rather than upsta

Re: L&I Back Home

1998-04-27 Thread William J. Foristal
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (William J. Foristal) writes: HI Sue, And King was not armed. Glad to hear they used the tape to show what NOT to do. It certainly is a good example of it. The sad part is that the female CHP officer had the situation well in hand before the LAPD showed up and decided to ha

Re: L&I Back Home

1998-04-27 Thread William J. Foristal
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (William J. Foristal) writes: Hi Joan, I guess we should be encouraged by the progress that HAS been made over the past twenty to thirty years. I think as long as everyone continues to fight for the elimination of racial prejudice and discrimination that progress will continu

Re: L&I The Rodney King Beating - The Other Story part two

1998-04-27 Thread William J. Foristal
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (William J. Foristal) writes: Hi Vi, The video wasn't edited. They just didn't show the entire video. I"m sure King and the cops DO know exactly what went down. And they all paid for breaking the law. Bill On Sun, 26 Apr 1998 18:49:44 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Viola Prove

Re: L&I Ex-Miss America apologizes to first lady over alleged one-night

1998-04-27 Thread William J. Foristal
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (William J. Foristal) writes: Hi Sue, Yeah, with friends like that who needs Republicans. This is a good example of something that has no relevance with respect to any evidence that Clinton broke the law. And is a good example of something that people SHOULD be embarrassed

Re: L&I Jones Appeal Difficult, But Not Impossible

1998-04-27 Thread William J. Foristal
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (William J. Foristal) writes: Hi Sue, Nothing in any of the stories I read mentioned scopes. Perhaps the accuracy was more a function of how closely the kids were clustered together and the shooting was more directional than aimed. Bill On Mon, 27 Apr 1998 12:24:20 -0700

Re: L&I SUSAN MCDOUGAL IMPLICATES NEW YORK TIMES

1998-04-27 Thread William J. Foristal
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (William J. Foristal) writes: On Mon, 27 Apr 1998 14:04:42 -0400 (EDT) [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: >[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > >>[EMAIL PROTECTED] (William J. Foristal) writes: >> >> >>How do you > >I don't answer questions in this forum from those who only indulge in >perso

Re: L&I Arnelle Simpson arrested

1998-04-27 Thread Sue Hartigan
Sue Hartigan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Hi Bill: I was commenting on what Simpson said the other day, about the kids never asking or mentioning their mother's death. According to him they haven't said a word, and he hasn't said anything to them. But he also said (during the custody hearings)

Re: L&I Arnelle Simpson arrested

1998-04-27 Thread Joan Moyer
"Joan Moyer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Hello Vi, I agree. I believe the family knew Simpson was guilty. It's possible some knew but couldn't face the outcome if he were found guilty. I can understand a family being protective. I do not excuse the Simpson family for blaming others. They m

Re: L&I Arnelle Simpson arrested

1998-04-27 Thread William J. Foristal
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (William J. Foristal) writes: Hi Sue, I'm a bit confused here. When did anyone actually speak to Sydney and report what she said to the media? And the media has certainly not been allowed to speak to her, have they? It seems that all we have are the statements from biased f

Re: L&I Arnelle Simpson arrested

1998-04-27 Thread Viola Provenzano
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Viola Provenzano) writes: Hi Joan, Pardon the intrusion, but I have absolutely no doubt that every member of the Simpson family knew OJ was guilty. The older daughter lived in the guest house on Rockingham and must have known exactly what was going on. Even OJ's mother excl

Re: L&I Back Home

1998-04-27 Thread Viola Provenzano
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Viola Provenzano) writes: Hi Joan, Kinda makes you wonder what kind of stuffing 's in the heads of the others!? (VBG) Vi "What the world needs more of is not love, but justice." Anon. _ __

Re: Attachment Disorder was L&I Jones Appeal Difficult, But Not Impossible

1998-04-27 Thread Viola Provenzano
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Viola Provenzano) writes: Hi Jackie and Sue, I saw a case on TV that would fit this description. A nice, wholesome famiily adopted a baby boy who,despite all the love and care they bestowed on him, grew into a monster. He set their house on fire and otherwise made their li

Re: L&I Gotta Love the HMO's

1998-04-27 Thread hallinan
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: >"Ronald Helm" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Verdict fires warning shot at managed care >Doctor wins case claiming he was fired for delivering high-quality care >Karen Brandon; Chicago Tribune > >SAN DIEGO - These are the things Dr. Thomas Self believes cost him his

Re: [Fwd: L&I Noe: Update]

1998-04-27 Thread DocCec
DocCec <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: In a message dated 98-04-27 15:12:25 EDT, you write: << >I don't have even one. Now, go try to figure that one out! Tummy tucks (abdominoplasties) would certainly be easier to do if the patients would be satisfied with having no belly button. Nowhere to p

Re: L&I Arnelle Simpson arrested

1998-04-27 Thread Sue Hartigan
Sue Hartigan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Hi Joan: I remember Sydney with a sign when the kids were selling lemonaide, but I don't remember what it said. Nothing new has been learned as far as I know. Just Simpsons repeated statements that, IMO, are lies. Sue > Hello Sue, > > Wasn't there a

Re: Jonesboro--guns was L&I Jones Appeal Difficult, But Not Impossible

1998-04-27 Thread Sue Hartigan
Sue Hartigan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Hi Jackie: It must be a state thing, because we have a Chow with an attitude. They are rated up there as being not too nice with outsiders, and we don't pay extra on the insurance for her. In fact I don't even remember being asked if we had a dog or no

Re: [Fwd: L&I Noe: Update]

1998-04-27 Thread Ronald Helm
"Ronald Helm" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Hi Ron: Only eight of them died that way. One was still born, and another died within hours of birth in the hospital. They are Catholics and believe that God wanted them to keep having children. Sue What kind of God would want a family to keep havi

Re: [Fwd: L&I Noe: Update]

1998-04-27 Thread Sue Hartigan
Sue Hartigan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Hi Ron: There is something here that is getting lost. She admitted to have killed them. She confessed to smothering them. Then took back her confession. Sue > > What kind of God would want a family to keep having children that would > inherit a leth

Re: L&I Jones Appeal Difficult, But Not Impossible

1998-04-27 Thread Sue Hartigan
Sue Hartigan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Hi Bill: Did they have scopes on these rifles. Sue > Hi Jackie, > > Yeah, I know...but this was a lot different from target practice or even > hunting animals. To think that 11 and 13 year old kids could have such > accuracy in shooting other kids

Re: L&I The Rodney King Beating - The Other Story part two

1998-04-27 Thread Sue Hartigan
Sue Hartigan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Hi Vi: I don't know if the first part of the video has ever been shown or not, but that was the first time I had seen it. In fact I think that they said it was the first time it had been shown to the public before they did show it. I'm not positive abo

Re: L&I Back Home

1998-04-27 Thread Sue Hartigan
Sue Hartigan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Hi Bill: They use the Rodney King tape as a training tool to show what not to do now. So that in itself tells me that the cops didn't handle the situation right. At the beginning of the tape it shows King on the ground a few times, and getting up. But

Re: [Fwd: L&I Noe: Update]

1998-04-27 Thread Ronald Helm
"Ronald Helm" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >I don't have even one. Now, go try to figure that one out! Tummy tucks (abdominoplasties) would certainly be easier to do if the patients would be satisfied with having no belly button. Nowhere to put your salt when eating celery in bed. Ron 99 pe

Re: L&I Ex-Miss America apologizes to first lady over alleged one-night

1998-04-27 Thread Sue Hartigan
Sue Hartigan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Hi Bill: This all happened a long time before he became President. It was a one night stand, agreed to by both, and never repeated. She didn't even want it to be made public. Her "friend" leaked it to the press. Some friends these women have. :( Su

Re: [Fwd: L&I Noe: Update]

1998-04-27 Thread DocCec
DocCec <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: In a message dated 98-04-27 14:57:17 EDT, you write: << If you're born again, do you have two bellybuttons? [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> I don't have even one. Now, go try to figure that one out! (I usually tell anyone who notices that I'm an android, but the last

Re: [Fwd: L&I Noe: Update]

1998-04-27 Thread Ronald Helm
"Ronald Helm" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Mike: I am now among the very special people who have visited your referenced website, thank you. As you know, there are inherited and acquired forms of mitochondrial disease and we certainly do not deny the existence of this disorder. However, to atte

Re: L&I Re: D.P.

1998-04-27 Thread Sue Hartigan
Sue Hartigan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Hi Bill: This last kidis unreal. They showed them taking him away in the back of the squad car and he was laughing and smiling to beat the band. Then his lawyer comes out and says that the kid is devestated. There have been psychologists on all the

Re: L&I SUSAN MCDOUGAL IMPLICATES NEW YORK TIMES

1998-04-27 Thread Sue Hartigan
Sue Hartigan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Hi Bill: Well Starr has less than two weeks left, and then he is going to either have to do something or let the whole thing go. I doubt very much that Hillary will be indicted though. I just can't see that happening. Sue > > Hi Sue, > > She has g

L&I Supreme Court Rejects Hale Request

1998-04-27 Thread Sue Hartigan
Sue Hartigan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Supreme Court Rejects Hale Request > > LITTLE ROCK, Ark. (AP) -- The U.S. Supreme Court today > rejected an effort by Whitewater figure David Hale to > stop a state trial he says is political payback for his > coo

L&I Aussie Nanny Charged in Kid's Death

1998-04-27 Thread Sue Hartigan
Sue Hartigan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Aussie Nanny Charged in Kid's Death > LONDON (AP) -- An Australian nanny facing charges in > connection with the death of a 6-month-old girl pleaded > innocent Monday, while a pathologist testified the > child prob

L&I Supreme Court To Study Carjack Law

1998-04-27 Thread Sue Hartigan
Sue Hartigan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Supreme Court To Study Carjack Law > WASHINGTON (AP) -- The Supreme Court today agreed to > decide whether Congress left a gaping loophole in a > federal carjacking law. The court will hear the > argument of a New

L&I Gotta Love the HMO's

1998-04-27 Thread Ronald Helm
"Ronald Helm" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Verdict fires warning shot at managed care Doctor wins case claiming he was fired for delivering high-quality care Karen Brandon; Chicago Tribune SAN DIEGO - These are the things Dr. Thomas Self believes cost him his job: He spent too much time with hi

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