Is it problem with arm only, or intel also hangs ?
VM is i386.
Ah, yes also forgot: what's glib2 version ? it's very important in this case
...
2.31.12-0ubuntu1
Ludo
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On 01/26/2012 08:52 PM, Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote:
where's the idiot's guide to getting the up-to-date files and putting
them where...
Regarding that it's me who is the said idiot (or the advocate for the
idiotic users), I'd like to add, that the end result should be to allow
the idiots to push F
On 01/27/2012 12:07 AM, Hans-Peter Diettrich wrote:
Creating own helpfiles is a secret, too :-(
Good point. The script provided by the "idiot's guide" should be
extendable for additional sources. Of course for this it the guide needs
to provide documentation on the format of the help sources.
On 01/26/2012 08:23 PM, Sven Barth wrote:
You are aware that Lazarus also supports offline help?
Yep. The discussion is on how to generate the offline help from the
current svn sources and on the features of the help viewer (IDE or
external tool).
-Michael
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On Fri, 27 Jan 2012 04:44:09 +0100
Hans-Peter Diettrich wrote:
> Mattias Gaertner schrieb:
>
> >> Most users must feel like idiots, when they are unable to figure out [...]
> >> for the configuration of the FPDoc Editor.
> >
> > What do you mean?
> > There are only search paths. And the "Creat
On 01/26/2012 06:38 PM, Graeme Geldenhuys wrote:
INF versions
http://sourceforge.net/projects/fpgui/files/fpGUI/Documentation/
OK. I downloaded the zip files, located the newest versions (in
docs_2011.zip) and created symlinks to have DocView find them.
Nearly completed Language Ref - tha
On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 07:52:04PM +, Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote:
> >> blessed with variable network latency. And it's absolutely no substitute
> >> for the context-sensitive help offered by most IDEs.
> >
> > Lazarus and the textmode IDE both provide context sensitive help. (CHM
> > based)
>
>
On 27 January 2012 11:20, Michael Schnell wrote:
> Nonetheless if it would be possible top convert the Kylix (or Turbo Delphi)
> files, this might be useful, to.
Not by me, because they are probably all copyright by Borland /
Embarcadero. And as I said before, the FPC docs are great already - so
On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 09:16:14PM +0100, Hans-Peter Diettrich wrote:
> >> know, Lazarus doesn't support WinHelp format, but maybe a similar
> >> trick can be applied as was done for HyperHelp.
> >
> > Winhelp is RTF based.
>
> That should not be a problem, IMO nowadays HTML with CSS offers the s
On 01/26/2012 06:26 PM, Graeme Geldenhuys wrote:
Michael, can
you remember?
Do you mean this ?
http://mantis.freepascal.org/view.php?id=20318
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On 27 January 2012 11:38, Michael Schnell wrote:
>
> Do you mean this ?
>
> http://mantis.freepascal.org/view.php?id=20318
No, it was long before that.
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On Fri, 27 Jan 2012 10:22:49 +0100
Marco van de Voort wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 07:52:04PM +, Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote:
> > >> blessed with variable network latency. And it's absolutely no substitute
> > >> for the context-sensitive help offered by most IDEs.
> > >
> > > Lazarus and t
On 01/26/2012 06:53 PM, Graeme Geldenhuys wrote:
On 26 January 2012 18:05, Michael Schnell wrote:
discussed was _language_ help rather than LCL herl (such as "for", "in",
"array", "class", ...)
That's exactly what the "Free Pascal Language Reference" document describes.
You really should vis
Marco van de Voort wrote:
On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 07:52:04PM +, Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote:
blessed with variable network latency. And it's absolutely no substitute
for the context-sensitive help offered by most IDEs.
Lazarus and the textmode IDE both provide context sensitive help. (CHM
based
On 27 January 2012 11:45, Michael Schnell wrote:
>
> Yep and with your manual conversion "array" does provide a DocView context
> help. but... (see attached picture)
A known problem, and you would have know about this too if you opened
the ref.inf file on it's own - the first help topic explains
On 01/27/2012 11:04 AM, Graeme Geldenhuys wrote:
A known problem, and you would have know about this too if you opened
the ref.inf file on it's own - the first help topic explains this (the
text in RED on the cover page).
Wow !
UTF sucks whenever you come across it :( .
The fix:
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In th
On 27 January 2012 12:13, Michael Schnell wrote:
>
>> A known problem, and you would have know about this too if you opened
>> the ref.inf file on it's own - the first help topic explains this (the
>> text in RED on the cover page).
Please note I did not mean this rude. You did use DocView via ID
Michael Schnell schrieb:
I understand that on top of generating the dedicated help files from the
current sources, for this it is necessary to generate combined CHM
files or multiple inf-Files for DocView. This needs to be included in
the "idiot's guide".
Did you have a look at examples/FPD
Mattias Gaertner schrieb:
On Fri, 27 Jan 2012 04:44:09 +0100
Hans-Peter Diettrich wrote:
Mattias Gaertner schrieb:
Most users must feel like idiots, when they are unable to figure out [...] for
the configuration of the FPDoc Editor.
What do you mean?
There are only search paths. And the "C
On Fri, 27 Jan 2012 09:59:23 +
Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote:
> Marco van de Voort wrote:
> > On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 07:52:04PM +, Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote:
> blessed with variable network latency. And it's absolutely no substitute
> for the context-sensitive help offered by most IDE
On 01/27/2012 12:13 PM, Hans-Peter Diettrich wrote:
Did you have a look at examples/FPDocManager?
This does not seem to make sense for me until I know a proven method to
generate the data for some help viewer, integrated in the IDE, that
works on the combined information of current stuff and n
On Fri, 27 Jan 2012 12:11:19 +0100
Hans-Peter Diettrich wrote:
> Mattias Gaertner schrieb:
> > On Fri, 27 Jan 2012 04:44:09 +0100
> > Hans-Peter Diettrich wrote:
> >
> >> Mattias Gaertner schrieb:
> >>
> Most users must feel like idiots, when they are unable to figure out
> [...] for
On 01/27/2012 11:04 AM, Graeme Geldenhuys wrote:
(the text in RED on the cover page).
FYI: This page is selected when starting DPDOC, but the content is not
displayed. It is only shown when clicking another chapter and then
re-cklicking the chapter.
Maybe easy to be improved...
-Michael
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On 01/27/2012 11:29 AM, Graeme Geldenhuys wrote:
So I opted to put a RED notice on the cover page of the ref.inf file.
I see. No problem regarding we certainly will see improvements when your
IPF compiler is ready.
Regarding visibility of the red text see my other mail.
-Michael
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Mattias Gaertner wrote:
I usually build Lazarus from source, downloading from svn. Nowhere there
does it say anything about docs-chm, or it certainly said nothing when I
started working like that four or five years ago.
So I go to http://www.freepascal.org/ and there's online documentation,
On 27 January 2012 13:25, Mattias Gaertner wrote:
>
> I added a note about offline help with chmhelp and docview.
Where?
> Maybe the mainainers can give me a short sentence or link for each help
> viewer. So people know where to start.
Like this page for DocView...
http://fpgui.sourceforge.net
On 27 January 2012 13:42, Michael Schnell wrote:
>
> FYI: This page is selected when starting DPDOC, but the content is not
What is DPDOC?
> displayed. It is only shown when clicking another chapter and then
> re-cklicking the chapter.
Sorry I can't reproduce it here. Would you mind sending m
On Fri, 27 Jan 2012 11:48:22 +
Mark Morgan Lloyd wrote:
> Mattias Gaertner wrote:
>
> >> I usually build Lazarus from source, downloading from svn. Nowhere there
> >> does it say anything about docs-chm, or it certainly said nothing when I
> >> started working like that four or five years
On Fri, 27 Jan 2012 14:46:19 +0200
Graeme Geldenhuys wrote:
> On 27 January 2012 13:25, Mattias Gaertner wrote:
> >
> > I added a note about offline help with chmhelp and docview.
>
> Where?
The default help page of the IDE.
It is shown for example when you click on Help / Online Help.
It simp
On 27 January 2012 15:13, Mattias Gaertner wrote:
> It simply shows docs/index.html.
OK, thanks.
> But it does not mention where to get the inf files.
3rd paragraph in that page.
"If you don't have DocView yet, you can compile DocView yourself from
the fpGUI source code, or opt to download p
Hi List.
I'm looking for an easy way to switch between buildmodes, but so far I
can only do it where they are also defined (Project->Options->Buildmodes).
Does there exists a window, a shortcut or something like this to make
switching easier?
Kind regards,
Torsten Bonde Christiansen.
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On Friday 27 of January 2012 17:19:13 Torsten Bonde Christiansen wrote:
> Hi List.
>
> I'm looking for an easy way to switch between buildmodes, but so far I
> can only do it where they are also defined (Project->Options->Buildmodes).
>
> Does there exists a window, a shortcut or something like t
On 2012-01-27 17:23, zeljko wrote:
On Friday 27 of January 2012 17:19:13 Torsten Bonde Christiansen wrote:
> Hi List.
>
> I'm looking for an easy way to switch between buildmodes, but so far I
> can only do it where they are also defined
(Project->Options->Buildmodes).
>
> Does there exi
On 01/27/2012 05:19 PM, Torsten Bonde Christiansen wrote:
I'm looking for an easy way to switch between buildmodes, but so far I
can only do it where they are also defined
(Project->Options->Buildmodes).
For me it's ctr-shift F11 (maybe just F11 for you if you are not using
Suse Linux).
On Friday 27 of January 2012 17:55:30 Michael Schnell wrote:
> On 01/27/2012 05:19 PM, Torsten Bonde Christiansen wrote:
> > I'm looking for an easy way to switch between buildmodes, but so far I
> > can only do it where they are also defined
> > (Project->Options->Buildmodes).
>
> For me it's ctr
On Fri, 27 Jan 2012 18:13:58 +0100
zeljko wrote:
> On Friday 27 of January 2012 17:55:30 Michael Schnell wrote:
> > On 01/27/2012 05:19 PM, Torsten Bonde Christiansen wrote:
> > > I'm looking for an easy way to switch between buildmodes, but so far I
> > > can only do it where they are also defin
Sorry for the empty mail before :(
On 2012-01-27 18:31, Mattias Gaertner wrote:
On Fri, 27 Jan 2012 18:13:58 +0100
zeljko wrote:
On Friday 27 of January 2012 17:55:30 Michael Schnell wrote:
On 01/27/2012 05:19 PM, Torsten Bonde Christiansen wrote:
I'm looking for an easy way to switch b
Mattias Gaertner schrieb:
For me it's ctr-shift F11 (maybe just F11 for you if you are not using
Suse Linux).
This opens the Project Options window at the point you left it last time
(e.g. Buildmodes).
Not so intuitive, but can be used as workaround for kbd only users. I'll see
with Juha if it
Mattias Gaertner schrieb:
Look at the Options > FPDoc Editor page, where the user has to add the
search paths, and tell us what a user has to enter there.
Normally: nothing.
If you like: you can add the path to the fpcdocs.
I already had to add several paths, to e.g. the widgetset(s) and
Id
Mattias Gaertner schrieb:
I added a note about offline help with chmhelp and docview.
Where?
The default help page of the IDE.
It is shown for example when you click on Help / Online Help.
It simply shows docs/index.html.
My installation shows a local copy of that page, which obviously is
On 27.01.2012 21:29, Hans-Peter Diettrich wrote:
Mattias Gaertner schrieb:
For me it's ctr-shift F11 (maybe just F11 for you if you are not using
Suse Linux).
This opens the Project Options window at the point you left it last
time
(e.g. Buildmodes).
Not so intuitive, but can be used as worka
On Fri, 27 Jan 2012 21:43:59 +0100
Hans-Peter Diettrich wrote:
> Mattias Gaertner schrieb:
>
> >> Look at the Options > FPDoc Editor page, where the user has to add the
> >> search paths, and tell us what a user has to enter there.
> >
> > Normally: nothing.
> > If you like: you can add the pa
On Fri, 27 Jan 2012 22:14:18 +0100
Hans-Peter Diettrich wrote:
> Mattias Gaertner schrieb:
>
> >>> I added a note about offline help with chmhelp and docview.
> >> Where?
> >
> > The default help page of the IDE.
> > It is shown for example when you click on Help / Online Help.
> > It simply sh
On Friday 27 of January 2012 18:31:13 Mattias Gaertner wrote:
> On Fri, 27 Jan 2012 18:13:58 +0100
>
> zeljko wrote:
> > On Friday 27 of January 2012 17:55:30 Michael Schnell wrote:
> > > On 01/27/2012 05:19 PM, Torsten Bonde Christiansen wrote:
> > > > I'm looking for an easy way to switch betwe
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