Re: [Lazarus] toolbar and toolbutton issues

2012-12-05 Thread Martin Schreiber
On Wednesday 05 December 2012 20:39:55 Graeme Geldenhuys wrote: > > MSEgui is infinitely more complicated to use in general, yet I figured > out how to setup a toolbar faster in MSEide & MSEgui, than I did in > Lazarus with LCL. No offence meant to the Martin (MSEgui developer), but > that should s

Re: [Lazarus] New user interface for future major releases of Lazarus

2012-12-05 Thread Hans-Peter Diettrich
William Oliveira Ferreira schrieb: 2012/12/4 Hans-Peter Diettrich > But one option should be feasable, to turn on/off an already installed DockMaster on the fly - *similar to the Delphi Un/Docked layout option*. DoDi This is precisely the point

Re: [Lazarus] New user interface for future major releases of Lazarus

2012-12-05 Thread Hans-Peter Diettrich
Martin schrieb: On 05/12/2012 23:05, Hans-Peter Diettrich wrote: Steps to reproduce: 1. Get an narrow and an wide monitor, e.g. CRT and Flatscreen. 2. Attach both to your computer, the wide one as secondary monitor. 3. Configure the wider monitor to have negative Y coordinates. 4. Make Lazarus

Re: [Lazarus] Tprogressbar and positional info as ptrint.

2012-12-05 Thread Hans-Peter Diettrich
waldo kitty schrieb: Integer has 2^31 positive values which should be enough for all the positions shown in a graphical component. Does anybody have an screen or printer, with so many pixels? ;-) [That's why Integer is way enough for a progress bar] multi-monitors spread horizontally?? How

Re: [Lazarus] Tprogressbar and positional info as ptrint.

2012-12-05 Thread Hans-Peter Diettrich
Andrew Brunner schrieb: Integer has 2^31 positive values which should be enough for all the positions shown in a graphical component. Does anybody have an screen or printer, with so many pixels? ;-) [That's why Integer is way enough for a progress bar] You are serious ?!? There is no corr

Re: [Lazarus] toolbar and toolbutton issues

2012-12-05 Thread William Oliveira Ferreira
Sorry, I was talking about TToolbar's.AutoSize 2012/12/5 waldo kitty > On 12/5/2012 16:56, William Oliveira Ferreira wrote: > >> Weird, ToolBar.Height should make the toolbar bigger, without change >> button >> height (if autosize is false)... >> > > which autosize? the one for the toolbar o

Re: [Lazarus] pointers in writing extension for Lazarus

2012-12-05 Thread leledumbo
> Can you please give me some pointers in the matter on how to start writing it, what should I be looking for etc... ? Maybe you can find something here: http://wiki.lazarus.freepascal.org/Extending_the_IDE -- View this message in context: http://free-pascal-lazarus.989080.n3.nabble.com/Laza

Re: [Lazarus] Tprogressbar and positional info as ptrint.

2012-12-05 Thread Andrew Brunner
On Dec 5, 2012, at 4:43 PM, Hans-Peter Diettrich wrote: > Juha Manninen schrieb: >> On Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 9:48 PM, Andrew Brunner wrote: >>> I'm getting overflow exceptions on values greater than integer. Can >>> someone revise all values from integer to ptrint so on 64 bit systems it >>> w

Re: [Lazarus] Tprogressbar and positional info as ptrint.

2012-12-05 Thread Juha Manninen
On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 2:46 AM, waldo kitty wrote: > multi-monitors spread horizontally?? C'mon... Please take a calculator and check how much is 2^31. Juha -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepas

Re: [Lazarus] Tprogressbar and positional info as ptrint.

2012-12-05 Thread waldo kitty
On 12/5/2012 17:43, Hans-Peter Diettrich wrote: Juha Manninen schrieb: On Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 9:48 PM, Andrew Brunner wrote: I'm getting overflow exceptions on values greater than integer. Can someone revise all values from integer to ptrint so on 64 bit systems it will be valid. You can sca

Re: [Lazarus] toolbar and toolbutton issues

2012-12-05 Thread waldo kitty
On 12/5/2012 16:56, William Oliveira Ferreira wrote: Weird, ToolBar.Height should make the toolbar bigger, without change button height (if autosize is false)... which autosize? the one for the toolbar or the one for the buttons? 2012/12/5 Graeme Geldenhuys mailto:gra...@geldenhuys.co.uk>>

Re: [Lazarus] New user interface for future major releases of Lazarus

2012-12-05 Thread Martin
On 05/12/2012 23:05, Hans-Peter Diettrich wrote: Steps to reproduce: 1. Get an narrow and an wide monitor, e.g. CRT and Flatscreen. 2. Attach both to your computer, the wide one as secondary monitor. 3. Configure the wider monitor to have negative Y coordinates. 4. Make Lazarus use the EasyDockM

Re: [Lazarus] New user interface for future major releases of Lazarus

2012-12-05 Thread Hans-Peter Diettrich
Martin schrieb: On 05/12/2012 17:13, Hans-Peter Diettrich wrote: Martin schrieb: There's only one problem with window positions, which are not handled properly when the screen coordinates (of top/left monitors) become negative. The IDE main form also may span multiple (left/right) monitors,

Re: [Lazarus] Tprogressbar and positional info as ptrint.

2012-12-05 Thread Hans-Peter Diettrich
Juha Manninen schrieb: On Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 9:48 PM, Andrew Brunner wrote: I'm getting overflow exceptions on values greater than integer. Can someone revise all values from integer to ptrint so on 64 bit systems it will be valid. You can scale the value in your code before using it for P

Re: [Lazarus] Tprogressbar and positional info as ptrint.

2012-12-05 Thread Andrew Brunner
On Dec 5, 2012, at 4:40 PM, Juha Manninen wrote: > On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 12:19 AM, Andrew Brunner wrote: >> The design time vales are all zeros anyways. > > ProgressBar.Position can be set also at design time. > > Point 1. The IDE input could reject values beyond 2g. It probably does tha

Re: [Lazarus] Tprogressbar and positional info as ptrint.

2012-12-05 Thread Juha Manninen
On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 12:19 AM, Andrew Brunner wrote: > The design time vales are all zeros anyways. ProgressBar.Position can be set also at design time. Juha -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freep

Re: [Lazarus] New user interface for future major releases of Lazarus

2012-12-05 Thread Hans-Peter Diettrich
Martin Schreiber schrieb: May I recommend a third solution than fully docked/undocked? MSEide has a menu item 'View'-'Panels'-'New Panel' which creates a new empty dock container where tool windows and other panels can be placed. So one can create groups of windows which can be layered or tabb

Re: [Lazarus] Tprogressbar and positional info as ptrint.

2012-12-05 Thread Andrew Brunner
On Dec 5, 2012, at 4:01 PM, Vincent Snijders wrote: > 2012/12/5 Andrew Brunner : >> . >> >> On Dec 5, 2012, at 2:52 PM, Juha Manninen wrote: >> >>> On Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 9:48 PM, Andrew Brunner >>> wrote: I'm getting overflow exceptions on values greater than integer. Can someo

Re: [Lazarus] Tprogressbar and positional info as ptrint.

2012-12-05 Thread Vincent Snijders
2012/12/5 Andrew Brunner : > . > > On Dec 5, 2012, at 2:52 PM, Juha Manninen wrote: > >> On Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 9:48 PM, Andrew Brunner wrote: >>> I'm getting overflow exceptions on values greater than integer. Can >>> someone revise all values from integer to ptrint so on 64 bit systems it >>

Re: [Lazarus] pointers in writing extension for Lazarus

2012-12-05 Thread Martin
On 05/12/2012 21:53, Martin wrote: Back to SynEdit. There is a decision on functional issues. Currently if you have 2 Editors in 2 windows, editing one file, then they are truly 2 editors. 2 - 2 carets (if the OS supports (GTK), and the option "Persistent caret" is set. Each has it's location,

Re: [Lazarus] Tprogressbar and positional info as ptrint.

2012-12-05 Thread Andrew Brunner
. On Dec 5, 2012, at 2:52 PM, Juha Manninen wrote: > On Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 9:48 PM, Andrew Brunner wrote: >> I'm getting overflow exceptions on values greater than integer. Can someone >> revise all values from integer to ptrint so on 64 bit systems it will be >> valid. > > You can scale

Re: [Lazarus] toolbar and toolbutton issues

2012-12-05 Thread William Oliveira Ferreira
Weird, ToolBar.Height should make the toolbar bigger, without change button height (if autosize is false)... 2012/12/5 Graeme Geldenhuys > On 2012-12-05 18:41, William de Oliveira Ferreira wrote: > > > > Graeme, could you try this? > > begin > >ToolBar1.ButtonHeight := 36; > >ToolBar1.Bu

Re: [Lazarus] pointers in writing extension for Lazarus

2012-12-05 Thread Martin
On 05/12/2012 21:23, ik wrote: Hello, For a very long time now (7-8 years), that I wish to add Lazarus possibility to split edit of my current edit (and other open files) vertically and horizontally. I understand that many people here don't like the idea, so I wish to write an extension for, rat

Re: [Lazarus] pointers in writing extension for Lazarus

2012-12-05 Thread William Oliveira Ferreira
Good idea! notepad++ does it with sync scroll too :) 2012/12/5 ik > Hello, > > For a very long time now (7-8 years), that I wish to add Lazarus > possibility to split edit of my current edit (and other open files) > vertically and horizontally. > I understand that many people here don't like the

[Lazarus] pointers in writing extension for Lazarus

2012-12-05 Thread ik
Hello, For a very long time now (7-8 years), that I wish to add Lazarus possibility to split edit of my current edit (and other open files) vertically and horizontally. I understand that many people here don't like the idea, so I wish to write an extension for, rather then adding it to the UI itse

Re: [Lazarus] Tprogressbar and positional info as ptrint.

2012-12-05 Thread Juha Manninen
On Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 9:48 PM, Andrew Brunner wrote: > I'm getting overflow exceptions on values greater than integer. Can someone > revise all values from integer to ptrint so on 64 bit systems it will be > valid. You can scale the value in your code before using it for ProgressBar's Positio

[Lazarus] Tprogressbar and positional info as ptrint.

2012-12-05 Thread Andrew Brunner
I'm getting overflow exceptions on values greater than integer. Can someone revise all values from integer to ptrint so on 64 bit systems it will be valid. Thanks. Andrew Brunner, Aurawin LLC 512.574.6298 http://aurawin.com/ Aurawin is great new way to store and share your pictures, videos

Re: [Lazarus] toolbar and toolbutton issues

2012-12-05 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
On 2012-12-05 18:41, William de Oliveira Ferreira wrote: > > Graeme, could you try this? > begin >ToolBar1.ButtonHeight := 36; >ToolBar1.ButtonWidth := 36; Ah, I see the problem now. I was trying to set the ToolButton.Height & .Width property using the Object Inspector. Apparently that i

Re: [Lazarus] toolbar and toolbutton issues

2012-12-05 Thread William de Oliveira Ferreira
On 05-12-2012 13:58, Graeme Geldenhuys wrote: OK, so I set the Width and Height of ImageList, and re-added all my 24x24 images. I then set the Toolbar.Images to point to my ImageList. My existing toolbar buttons did not adjust to the size of the now known 24x24 images in the imagelist. Also the

Re: [Lazarus] New user interface for future major releases of Lazarus

2012-12-05 Thread Martin
On 05/12/2012 17:13, Hans-Peter Diettrich wrote: Martin schrieb: There's only one problem with window positions, which are not handled properly when the screen coordinates (of top/left monitors) become negative. The IDE main form also may span multiple (left/right) monitors, what's not always

Re: [Lazarus] New user interface for future major releases of Lazarus

2012-12-05 Thread Hans-Peter Diettrich
Juha Manninen schrieb: On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 8:22 PM, leledumbo wrote: If you have some time and skills, you better try to integrate KZDesktop (form designer docking + automatic object inspector/code explorer switching), EasyDockManager (full layout saving) and AnchorDocking/GlassDocking (beau

Re: [Lazarus] New user interface for future major releases of Lazarus

2012-12-05 Thread Hans-Peter Diettrich
Martin schrieb: There's only one problem with window positions, which are not handled properly when the screen coordinates (of top/left monitors) become negative. The IDE main form also may span multiple (left/right) monitors, what's not always desireable, and the according configuration opti

Re: [Lazarus] HTTP and POP3 client components

2012-12-05 Thread waldo kitty
On 12/5/2012 06:13, Michael Schnell wrote: On 12/05/2012 11:21 AM, Michael Schnell wrote: Up til now I failed to find in the docs if/how I can do a http client. It seems that "THTTPSend" is supplied for this purpose (no Idea why it is not called "THTTPClient". In Fact "THTTPSend" even has p

Re: [Lazarus] HTTP and POP3 client components

2012-12-05 Thread waldo kitty
On 12/5/2012 05:21, Michael Schnell wrote: On 12/03/2012 12:24 PM, Stephane Carre wrote: Did you have look at synapse ? http://synapse.ararat.cz/doku.php Works fine under Linux and Windows, 32 and 64 bit, both with Lazarus and Delphi. Great. I d/lded the sources (snapshot). Up til now I faile

Re: [Lazarus] toolbar and toolbutton issues

2012-12-05 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
On 2012-12-05 15:00, michael.vancann...@wisa.be wrote: >> >> Afaik TImageList have width and height properties. Set them to 24 and it will >> be ok. > > Correct. OK, so I set the Width and Height of ImageList, and re-added all my 24x24 images. I then set the Toolbar.Images to point to my ImageLi

Re: [Lazarus] toolbar and toolbutton issues

2012-12-05 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
On 2012-12-05 15:31, zeljko wrote: > > That's bit annoying, also "stretched" property would be nice > to have in TImageList, so if image is bigger than w & h it could be stretched > to fit into. It also seems that if you do a "Save form to XML", and the form contains a ImageList, you have 100%

[Lazarus] Custom panel - issue with parent color in childs

2012-12-05 Thread Krzysztof
Hi, I have own custom panel which inherit from TCustomControl instead of TCustomPanel (which inherit from TCustomControl also). Problem is that controls placed on my panel don't refresh parent color. See screen ( http://i45.tinypic.com/16ld1fr.png ), top panel is my, bottom is standard TPanel. Bot

Re: [Lazarus] toolbar and toolbutton issues

2012-12-05 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
On 2012-12-05 15:31, zeljko wrote: > > Yes, I've forgot to say that you must know image sizes before importing into > the image list :) That's bit annoying, also "stretched" property would be > nice > to have in TImageList, so if image is bigger than w & h it could be stretched > to fit into.

Re: [Lazarus] toolbar and toolbutton issues

2012-12-05 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
On 2012-12-05 15:32, zeljko wrote: >> >> Maybe GTK/Qt doesn't support that ? > > Afair TToolbar is derived from TCustomControl and it does not have native > handle of eg. QToolbar under Qt, so it seem that LCL is doing all drawing > stuff. How it works on windows or carbon ? I'm using LCL-GTK2

Re: [Lazarus] toolbar and toolbutton issues

2012-12-05 Thread zeljko
On Wednesday 05 of December 2012 15:59:27 michael.vancann...@wisa.be wrote: > On Wed, 5 Dec 2012, Graeme Geldenhuys wrote: > > On 2012-12-05 14:33, Graeme Geldenhuys wrote: > >> See attached screenshot showing the clipping and resize issues. > > > > More notes… > > > > * image size: It seems the

Re: [Lazarus] toolbar and toolbutton issues

2012-12-05 Thread zeljko
On Wednesday 05 of December 2012 16:23:35 Graeme Geldenhuys wrote: > On 2012-12-05 14:57, zeljko wrote: > > Afaik TImageList have width and height properties. Set them to 24 and it > > will be ok. > > Thanks. And the unfortunate consequence of that is that your ImageList > is then cleared! Rather

Re: [Lazarus] toolbar and toolbutton issues

2012-12-05 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
On 2012-12-05 14:57, zeljko wrote: > > Afaik TImageList have width and height properties. Set them to 24 and it will > be ok. Thanks. And the unfortunate consequence of that is that your ImageList is then cleared! Rather annoying, if you images where all from various locations on your hard drive

Re: [Lazarus] toolbar and toolbutton issues

2012-12-05 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
On 2012-12-05 14:59, michael.vancann...@wisa.be wrote: >> TButton), but apparently that controls the image sizes. Better >> property names would probably have been ImageWidth and ImageHeight. > > These names are dictated by Delphi compatibility. Surely the "Delphi import wizard" could resolve t

Re: [Lazarus] Why is release 1.0.4 showing as 1.0.5 in the IDE

2012-12-05 Thread Mattias Gaertner
Graeme Geldenhuys hat am 5. Dezember 2012 um 15:18 geschrieben: > As the subject line says. > > I downloaded the v1.0.4 source release *.tar.gz archive from > SourceForge, and compiled with FPC 2.6.2-rc1 using 'make bigide' Sorry. I will upload correct ones. Mattias --

Re: [Lazarus] toolbar and toolbutton issues

2012-12-05 Thread michael . vancanneyt
On Wed, 5 Dec 2012, zeljko wrote: On Wednesday 05 of December 2012 15:33:49 Graeme Geldenhuys wrote: - I used a set of 24x24 PNG images, but the images get clipped in the ImageList Property Editor. Right and Bottom of images are clipped in the image preview area. It looks like the

Re: [Lazarus] toolbar and toolbutton issues

2012-12-05 Thread michael . vancanneyt
On Wed, 5 Dec 2012, Graeme Geldenhuys wrote: On 2012-12-05 14:33, Graeme Geldenhuys wrote: See attached screenshot showing the clipping and resize issues. More notes… * image size: It seems the ImageList doesn't auto-detect the size of the images I added, and I added them all at once usi

Re: [Lazarus] toolbar and toolbutton issues

2012-12-05 Thread zeljko
On Wednesday 05 of December 2012 15:33:49 Graeme Geldenhuys wrote: > - I used a set of 24x24 PNG images, but the images get clipped in > the ImageList Property Editor. Right and Bottom of images are > clipped in the image preview area. It looks like the ImageList is > hardcoded to 1

Re: [Lazarus] toolbar and toolbutton issues

2012-12-05 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
On 2012-12-05 14:33, Graeme Geldenhuys wrote: > > See attached screenshot showing the clipping and resize issues. More notes… * image size: It seems the ImageList doesn't auto-detect the size of the images I added, and I added them all at once using multi-select. * image size: I took a chance

[Lazarus] toolbar and toolbutton issues

2012-12-05 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
Hi, I was looking at various GUI toolkits to draw inspiration for a Toolbar widget for fpGUI. Up until now I have simply used a Bevel and Buttons (though fpGUI's buttons have more functionality that LCL's TButton). This works well, but I thought I would created a dedicated widget for the task. Th

Re: [Lazarus] TMySQL51Connection: Keep connection alive

2012-12-05 Thread michael . vancanneyt
On Wed, 5 Dec 2012, Andrey Smyntyna wrote: Hello. I need some explanation of how to do persistent connection to MySQL database and restore it if it has broken. In my test project I have created TMySQL51Connection component with KeepConnection property set to True and additionaly before makin

[Lazarus] TMySQL51Connection: Keep connection alive

2012-12-05 Thread Andrey Smyntyna
Hello. I need some explanation of how to do persistent connection to MySQL database and restore it if it has broken. In my test project I have created TMySQL51Connection component with KeepConnection property set to True and additionaly before making any database operations I check connection ava

[Lazarus] Why is release 1.0.4 showing as 1.0.5 in the IDE

2012-12-05 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
As the subject line says. I downloaded the v1.0.4 source release *.tar.gz archive from SourceForge, and compiled with FPC 2.6.2-rc1 using 'make bigide' Regards, - Graeme - -- fpGUI Toolkit - a cross-platform GUI toolkit using Free Pascal http://fpgui.sourceforge.net/ -- ___

Re: [Lazarus] New user interface for future major releases of Lazarus

2012-12-05 Thread Mattias Gaertner
Sven Barth hat am 5. Dezember 2012 um 11:19 geschrieben: > Am 05.12.2012 05:30, schrieb Martin Schreiber: > > Am 04.12.2012 06:59, schrieb Felipe Ferreira da Silva: > >> I would like to propose and discuss about a new graphical user interface > >> for the next major releases. Nowadays, most of th

Re: [Lazarus] HTTP and POP3 client components

2012-12-05 Thread michael . vancanneyt
On Wed, 5 Dec 2012, Michael Schnell wrote: On 12/05/2012 12:38 PM, michael.vancann...@wisa.be wrote: That said, the advantage of having these classes visual is nearly non-existent. Yep. But it shows what the user is supposed to access (very useful when he did not (yet) find the appropriate

Re: [Lazarus] HTTP and POP3 client components

2012-12-05 Thread Michael Schnell
On 12/05/2012 12:38 PM, michael.vancann...@wisa.be wrote: That said, the advantage of having these classes visual is nearly non-existent. Yep. But it shows what the user is supposed to access (very useful when he did not (yet) find the appropriate docu or example) In fact I rather easily did

Re: [Lazarus] HTTP and POP3 client components

2012-12-05 Thread michael . vancanneyt
On Wed, 5 Dec 2012, Michael Schnell wrote: More talk to myself... It does install but when installing it the IDE says it has no "register", thus no visual components are created. But it does have "published" properties ?!?!?! Search for synapse visual packages. The synapse classes a

Re: [Lazarus] HTTP and POP3 client components

2012-12-05 Thread Michael Schnell
More talk to myself... It does install but when installing it the IDE says it has no "register", thus no visual components are created. But it does have "published" properties ?!?!?! -Michael -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.fr

Re: [Lazarus] HTTP and POP3 client components

2012-12-05 Thread Michael Schnell
On 12/05/2012 12:13 PM, Michael Schnell wrote: Is there a package file that allows for doing this ? Found it. Silly me :-[ . -Michael -- ___ Lazarus mailing list Lazarus@lists.lazarus.freepascal.org http://lists.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailman/li

Re: [Lazarus] HTTP and POP3 client components

2012-12-05 Thread Michael Schnell
On 12/05/2012 11:21 AM, Michael Schnell wrote: Up til now I failed to find in the docs if/how I can do a http client. It seems that "THTTPSend" is supplied for this purpose (no Idea why it is not called "THTTPClient". In Fact "THTTPSend" even has published properties, so it seems that it

Re: [Lazarus] Lazarus support for Sorting is completely inadequate.

2012-12-05 Thread Michael Schnell
On 12/05/2012 11:24 AM, Avishai wrote: Non Case Sensitive gives a result like "A a a A A a A". This is a form of randomness. If course: if the sort order considers things to be equal while the display considers them to be not equal, the sorted result looks random. This is by design. And with

Re: [Lazarus] New user interface for future major releases of Lazarus

2012-12-05 Thread William Oliveira Ferreira
2012/12/4 Hans-Peter Diettrich > > But one option should be feasable, to turn on/off an already installed > DockMaster on the fly - *similar to the Delphi Un/Docked layout option*. > > DoDi > This is precisely the point I was talking about! How can we think of something about it if we don't know

Re: [Lazarus] HTTP and POP3 client components

2012-12-05 Thread Michael Schnell
On 12/03/2012 12:24 PM, Stephane Carre wrote: Did you have look at synapse ? http://synapse.ararat.cz/doku.php Works fine under Linux and Windows, 32 and 64 bit, both with Lazarus and Delphi. Great. I d/lded the sources (snapshot). Up til now I failed to find in the docs if/how I can do a http

Re: [Lazarus] New user interface for future major releases of Lazarus

2012-12-05 Thread Sven Barth
Am 05.12.2012 05:30, schrieb Martin Schreiber: Am 04.12.2012 06:59, schrieb Felipe Ferreira da Silva: I would like to propose and discuss about a new graphical user interface for the next major releases. Nowadays, most of the RAD tools use a docked interface(MonoDevelop, Delphi, VS), and in some

Re: [Lazarus] Lazarus support for Sorting is completely inadequate.

2012-12-05 Thread Michael Schnell
On 12/01/2012 07:26 PM, Avishai wrote: To me, it should group the uppercase together in one group and the lowercase in another group. This is very obviously a matter of the application you have in mind (or a matter of taste). This is just a matter of taste what is considered to be the default.

Re: [Lazarus] Lazarus support for Sorting is completely inadequate.

2012-12-05 Thread Michael Schnell
On 12/01/2012 06:23 PM, Avishai wrote: That is assuming you know in advance what language will be used. What do you assume the compare algorithm should come from ? Do you suppose the underlying OS would provide it together with other "locale" settings ? -Michael -- __

Re: [Lazarus] Lazarus support for Sorting is completely inadequate.

2012-12-05 Thread Reinier Olislagers
On 5-12-2012 10:18, Michael Schnell wrote: > On 12/02/2012 12:53 AM, Juha Manninen wrote: >> All GUI controls and maybe StringList, >> > > If they use something else than a simple "<" / "=" / ">" in the user > code does this asks for extreme confusion. > > This the way to go would be to just to

Re: [Lazarus] Lazarus support for Sorting is completely inadequate.

2012-12-05 Thread Michael Schnell
On 12/02/2012 12:53 AM, Juha Manninen wrote: All GUI controls and maybe StringList, If they use something else than a simple "<" / "=" / ">" in the user code does this asks for extreme confusion. This the way to go would be to just to make the string compare globally configurable. Of c

Re: [Lazarus] off topic [Re: New user interface for future major releases of Lazarus]

2012-12-05 Thread michael . vancanneyt
On Tue, 4 Dec 2012, Felipe Ferreira da Silva wrote: Well, thank you, guys! Anyway, even if this is not a suitable idea and there is not so much demand for this, I'll still continue to contribute with components and with the discussion about dynamic packages... and keep working secretly on t

Re: [Lazarus] off topic [Re: New user interface for future major releases of Lazarus]

2012-12-05 Thread Reinier Olislagers
On 4-12-2012 22:47, Felipe Ferreira da Silva wrote: > Well, thank you, guys! > > Anyway, even if this is not a suitable idea and there is not so much > demand for this, I'll still continue to contribute with components and > with the discussion about dynamic packages... and keep working secretly >