Re: [lazarus] MacOS X - Lazarus - TDBF

2006-05-14 Thread Vincent Snijders
Panagiotis Sidiropoulos schreef: Trying to install TDBF package I get error message: /usr/share/lazarus/components/tdbf/RegisterDBF.pas(25,34) Fatal: Can't find unit Dbf DBF unit is placed in FPC/DB folder but can't be reached. At Environment options FPC folder is properly declared. FPC root

Re: [lazarus] Who needs Unicode controls.

2006-05-14 Thread ik
בMonday 15 May 2006 00:23, נכתב על ידי Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho: > On 5/14/06, Mattias Gaertner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > AFAIK gtk, gtk2, carbon, qt and wince use UTF-8. So basically you test > > No, gtk 1 uses either utf-8 or iso depending on the font. On my > computer and others I tested

Re: [lazarus] Request for PR noise !

2006-05-14 Thread Al Boldi
Mattias Gaertner wrote: > "Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 5/14/06, Al Boldi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > A RAD/IDE should not lock itself into one language only, but should > > > rather strive to be compiler/language independent. Implementing this > > > with the

[lazarus] Re: Patch for Qt RadioGroup

2006-05-14 Thread Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho
Hello, This will probably be annoying, but I prepered another patch to substitute the last 2 I sent =) This is the same as before, but I also implemented a good part of TBrush, TFont and other miscellaneous DC things. TLabel still doesn't work, but this should bring us closer to make it wo

Re: [lazarus] Who needs Unicode controls.

2006-05-14 Thread Christian U.
> This isn't the end of the world, but is somewhat inconvenient. > > To answer which system is better, it is necessary to compare the > overhead with the benefits. The overhead is minimal, if the LCL convert the string one time it is be set and store it internally. > It would be nice to calculate

[lazarus] Re: Patch for Qt RadioGroup

2006-05-14 Thread Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho
Hello, you can ignore the last patch and apply this one instead. It's the same as the last, but I also updated qt4.pas thanks, Felipe Index: lcl/interfaces/qt/qt4.pas === --- lcl/interfaces/qt/qt4.pas (revisão 9282) +++ lcl/in

[lazarus] Patch for Qt RadioGroup

2006-05-14 Thread Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho
The attached patch fixes TRadioGroup for Qt, fixes some typos, add comments and does other minor fixes. -- Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho Index: lcl/interfaces/qt/qtwsbuttons.pp === --- lcl/interfaces/qt/qtwsbuttons.pp (revisão 9282) +

Re: [lazarus] Combobox patch

2006-05-14 Thread Luiz Americo
Colin Western escreveu: I think OnChange should be triggered for a combo box when the selection changes - I certainly have several forms that rely on this. The attached patch should match the Delphi behavior Colin I agree with this patch. In fact this was the behavior until revision 9108. Lui

[lazarus] MacOS X - Lazarus - TDBF

2006-05-14 Thread Panagiotis Sidiropoulos
Trying to install TDBF package I get error message: /usr/share/lazarus/components/tdbf/RegisterDBF.pas(25,34) Fatal: Can't find unit Dbf DBF unit is placed in FPC/DB folder but can't be reached. At Environment options FPC folder is properly declared. FPC root folder specifically. I can't

Re: [lazarus] Who needs Unicode controls.

2006-05-14 Thread Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho
On 5/14/06, Mattias Gaertner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: AFAIK gtk, gtk2, carbon, qt and wince use UTF-8. So basically you test No, gtk 1 uses either utf-8 or iso depending on the font. On my computer and others I tested what works for Gtk 1 is iso. wince uses utf-16, not 8. -- Felipe Monteiro

Re: [lazarus] Request for PR noise !

2006-05-14 Thread Mattias Gaertner
On Sun, 14 May 2006 18:06:46 -0300 "Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 5/14/06, Al Boldi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > A RAD/IDE should not lock itself into one language only, but should > > rather strive to be compiler/language independent. Implementing this > > with t

Re: [lazarus] Request for PR noise !

2006-05-14 Thread SIX-S
Hi, "NOMAD" is/was the name of a mainframe 4th generation language. What about "Lotus"? I always thought that is a silly name for software. Sure didn't hurt that products popularity until Microsoft could build\copy a better(?) "Excel" with its monolopy of software integrated into the OS. The n

Re: [lazarus] Who needs Unicode controls.

2006-05-14 Thread Mattias Gaertner
On Sun, 14 May 2006 17:56:13 -0300 "Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 5/14/06, Mattias Gaertner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > The question is: should the LCL use the 'native' string type and let the > > applications write three times the code. Or should the LCL use UTF-

Re: [lazarus] Request for PR noise !

2006-05-14 Thread Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho
On 5/14/06, Al Boldi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: A RAD/IDE should not lock itself into one language only, but should rather strive to be compiler/language independent. Implementing this with the FPC would probably be proof enough that Pascal isn't dead. Some other things were mentioned, but I t

Re: [lazarus] MacOS X - Lazarus installation

2006-05-14 Thread Panagiotis Sidiropoulos
>ls -laR /var/root/.lazarus total 0 drwxr-xr-x2 root wheel 68 May 14 23:52 . drwxr-x--- 12 root wheel 408 May 14 23:52 .. >df -h FilesystemSize Used Avail Capacity Mounted on /dev/disk0s3 37G20G17G53%/ devfs 96K

Re: [lazarus] Who needs Unicode controls.

2006-05-14 Thread Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho
On 5/14/06, Mattias Gaertner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: The question is: should the LCL use the 'native' string type and let the applications write three times the code. Or should the LCL use UTF-8 and map internally in the interfaces and let the applications write once and compile anywhere. To

Re: [lazarus] Who needs Unicode controls.

2006-05-14 Thread Mattias Gaertner
On Sun, 14 May 2006 17:36:15 -0300 "Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 5/12/06, Borut Maricic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I agree - this is also my understanding after the recent > > thread. It seems that it would be highly inefficient on > > native utf-16 machines (su

Re: [lazarus] MacOS X - Lazarus installation

2006-05-14 Thread Mattias Gaertner
On Sun, 14 May 2006 23:34:45 +0300 Panagiotis Sidiropoulos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Is there any information I can provide would help you figure it out? What gives: ls -laR /var/root/.lazarus df -h touch /var/root/.lazarus/compilertest.pas Mattias > It's OK with me, starting Lazarus thi

Re: [lazarus] Who needs Unicode controls.

2006-05-14 Thread Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho
On 5/12/06, Borut Maricic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I agree - this is also my understanding after the recent thread. It seems that it would be highly inefficient on native utf-16 machines (such as WinNT+), but it should work, in principle. This is also very inefficient on iso systems, such as

Re: [lazarus] MacOS X - Lazarus installation

2006-05-14 Thread Panagiotis Sidiropoulos
Is there any information I can provide would help you figure it out? It's OK with me, starting Lazarus this way is not big deal. Panagiotis On May 14, 2006, at 11:22 PM, Mattias Gaertner wrote: On Sun, 14 May 2006 23:16:22 +0300 Panagiotis Sidiropoulos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: If this does

Re: [lazarus] MacOS X - Lazarus installation

2006-05-14 Thread Mattias Gaertner
On Sun, 14 May 2006 23:16:22 +0300 Panagiotis Sidiropoulos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > If this does not help, please try to start with > > lazarus --primary-config-path=/tmp/.lazarus > > Starting Lazarus this way I see at last IDE. Thank you very much for > your help. Please allow me to get

Re: [lazarus] MacOS X - Lazarus installation

2006-05-14 Thread Panagiotis Sidiropoulos
If this does not help, please try to start with lazarus --primary-config-path=/tmp/.lazarus Starting Lazarus this way I see at last IDE. Thank you very much for your help. Please allow me to get back for any other problem. Panagiotis On May 14, 2006, at 11:00 PM, Mattias Gaertner wrote:

Re: [lazarus] MacOS X - Lazarus installation

2006-05-14 Thread Mattias Gaertner
On Sun, 14 May 2006 21:05:48 +0300 Panagiotis Sidiropoulos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Additional to prior information, "var/root/.lazarus" folder exist and > creating files is allowed through user account logged in. Strange. I changed the procedure to catch the exception. But it means the IDE

Re: [lazarus] VirtualTreeView compile error - FPC 2.0.2

2006-05-14 Thread Vincent Snijders
Christian U. wrote: Hey, what is hard about zipping the sources and sending me an email? not hard but nothing i do every 2 weeks :) by the way, what about acs ? removed from ccr ? I think it is hidden by sourceforge new directory structure, but it will be visible if you select the right pa

Re: [lazarus] Request for PR noise !

2006-05-14 Thread Florian Klaempfl
Al Boldi wrote: > Florian Klaempfl wrote: >> Al Boldi wrote: >>> A RAD/IDE should not lock itself into one language only, but should >>> rather strive to be compiler/language independent. >> Over looked into the FCL/LCL how close they are tight with the compiler? > > Couldn't this be addressed usi

Re: [lazarus] VirtualTreeView compile error - FPC 2.0.2

2006-05-14 Thread Christian U.
> Hey, what is hard about zipping the sources and sending me an email? not hard but nothing i do every 2 weeks :) by the way, what about acs ? removed from ccr ? regards Christian _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with

Re: [lazarus] Request for PR noise !

2006-05-14 Thread L505
> On Sun, 14 May 2006 21:00:44 +0300 > Al Boldi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Calling it OpenRAD would probably be perfect, unless it's already taken. > > That's a description, not a name. > > Micha Call it DevCo IDE then ;-) Just admit it - the best name for the IDE is "Lars". __

Re: [lazarus] Request for PR noise !

2006-05-14 Thread L505
> Michael Van Canneyt wrote: > > If Lazarus puts pascal as a language on the map again, it's name is > > VERY well chosen indeed, as Lazarus rose again from the grave !! > > A RAD/IDE should not lock itself into one language only, but should rather > strive to be compiler/language independent. Im

Re: [lazarus] VirtualTreeView compile error - FPC 2.0.2

2006-05-14 Thread Vincent Snijders
Christian U. wrote: Well, I meant access in a broader term (svn based access). I do not use csv... but I think there is something like tortoisecsv for the brokenOS on which i'm right now. I'll try to get a download. Is there a reason why zip distrib are not frequently released (since it makes 2

Re: [lazarus] Request for PR noise !

2006-05-14 Thread Al Boldi
Florian Klaempfl wrote: > Al Boldi wrote: > > A RAD/IDE should not lock itself into one language only, but should > > rather strive to be compiler/language independent. > > Over looked into the FCL/LCL how close they are tight with the compiler? Couldn't this be addressed using plugins? Thanks!

Re: [lazarus] Request for PR noise !

2006-05-14 Thread Micha Nelissen
On Sun, 14 May 2006 21:00:44 +0300 Al Boldi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Calling it OpenRAD would probably be perfect, unless it's already taken. That's a description, not a name. Micha _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [lazarus] Who needs Unicode controls.

2006-05-14 Thread Christian U.
> What non Latin languages (such as Arabic, Chinese) do you need to be > supported ? Chinese traditional and simplified and maybe russian and turkey unicode regards Christian Ulrich _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] wi

Re: [lazarus] VirtualTreeView compile error - FPC 2.0.2

2006-05-14 Thread Christian U.
> Well, I meant access in a broader term (svn based access). I do not > use csv... but I think there is something like tortoisecsv for the > brokenOS on which i'm right now. I'll try to get a download. > > Is there a reason why zip distrib are not frequently released (since > it makes 2 months it'

Re: [lazarus] Request for PR noise !

2006-05-14 Thread Florian Klaempfl
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > By the way, > Why to have a PR noise at all? > Why don't just keep doing its development and spreading it through its > website as it is? Agreed and that's why I usually don't respond to such threads and work instead on FPC :) __

Re: [lazarus] Request for PR noise !

2006-05-14 Thread Florian Klaempfl
Al Boldi wrote: > Michael Van Canneyt wrote: >> If Lazarus puts pascal as a language on the map again, it's name is >> VERY well chosen indeed, as Lazarus rose again from the grave !! > > A RAD/IDE should not lock itself into one language only, but should rather > strive to be compiler/language i

Re: [lazarus] Request for PR noise !

2006-05-14 Thread anteusz
By the way, Why to have a PR noise at all? Why don't just keep doing its development and spreading it through its website as it is? Is it not enough what exists already? Márton Papp _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] wi

Re: [lazarus] MacOS X - Lazarus installation

2006-05-14 Thread Panagiotis Sidiropoulos
Additional to prior information, "var/root/.lazarus" folder exist and creating files is allowed through user account logged in. Panagioltis On May 14, 2006, at 8:40 PM, Panagiotis Sidiropoulos wrote: Here is xterm results. A message dialog appear with message "Unable to create file "/var/r

Re: [lazarus] Request for PR noise !

2006-05-14 Thread Al Boldi
Michael Van Canneyt wrote: > If Lazarus puts pascal as a language on the map again, it's name is > VERY well chosen indeed, as Lazarus rose again from the grave !! A RAD/IDE should not lock itself into one language only, but should rather strive to be compiler/language independent. Implementing

Re: [lazarus] MacOS X - Lazarus installation

2006-05-14 Thread Panagiotis Sidiropoulos
Here is xterm results. A message dialog appear with message "Unable to create file "/var/root/.lazarus/compilertest.pas". I had this message a couple of times before but thought it was privileges issue so, I used to change user account again. Please ask for any more information needed to ge

Re: [lazarus] MacOS X - Lazarus installation

2006-05-14 Thread Vincent Snijders
Panagiotis Sidiropoulos wrote: I'm trying to install Lazarus on MacOSX for several days with no luck so I decide to start over again. After cleaning any existing files for previous installations and testings, I followed these steps: 1. I Installed files: - fpc-2.1.1-20060511-powerpc-macosx.d

Re: [lazarus] MacOS X - Lazarus installation

2006-05-14 Thread Panagiotis Sidiropoulos
I'm trying to install Lazarus on MacOSX for several days with no luck so I decide to start over again. After cleaning any existing files for previous installations and testings, I followed these steps: 1. I Installed files: - fpc-2.1.1-20060511-powerpc-macosx.dmg - fpcsrc-2.1.1-20060511-power

Re: [lazarus] Request for PR noise !

2006-05-14 Thread Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho
On 5/14/06, Borut Maricic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: * The success of Lazarus depends on the support for doing useful things in a reliable, nice and easy way - the name is not so important. Acctually I think that what makes a tool or language popular is propaganda, and the best propaganda on so

Re: [lazarus] Request for PR noise !

2006-05-14 Thread Ido Kanner
Quoting Michael Van Canneyt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > On Sun, 14 May 2006, Ales Katona wrote: > > > Lazarus might not be the best of names but neither is Delphi and > > especialy not Gambas (which sounds extremely moronic). > > > > Delphi is a stupid name too, it's just marketing which got it

Re: [lazarus] Request for PR noise !

2006-05-14 Thread George Lober
Florian Klaempfl wrote: I think a name change isn't necessary, but what FPC/Lazarus would need is a group of people doing the same as distributors do: combining FPC/Lazarus into one nice and easy to use package. This project/package could get a new name, probably something descriptive like FreeR

Re: [lazarus] Request for PR noise !

2006-05-14 Thread johnf
On Sunday 14 May 2006 08:57, Michael Van Canneyt wrote: > On Sun, 14 May 2006, Ido Kanner wrote: > > Nicholas Wirth once said that a language requires good name (I don't > > recall the exact quote), without a good name the language will fail. > > In that case he did a poor PR job, obviously. > > >

Re: [lazarus] Request for PR noise !

2006-05-14 Thread Michael Van Canneyt
On Sun, 14 May 2006, Ido Kanner wrote: > > Nicholas Wirth once said that a language requires good name (I don't recall > the > exact quote), without a good name the language will fail. In that case he did a poor PR job, obviously. > > Personally, I belive that we need to kill the name "Pasc

Re: [lazarus] Request for PR noise !

2006-05-14 Thread Michael Van Canneyt
On Sun, 14 May 2006, Ales Katona wrote: > Lazarus might not be the best of names but neither is Delphi and > especialy not Gambas (which sounds extremely moronic). > > Delphi is a stupid name too, it's just marketing which got it to the > position it has. Amen to that :-) If Lazarus puts pasc

Re: [lazarus] Request for PR noise !

2006-05-14 Thread Ales Katona
Lazarus might not be the best of names but neither is Delphi and especialy not Gambas (which sounds extremely moronic). Delphi is a stupid name too, it's just marketing which got it to the position it has. Ales _ To unsubscribe

Re: [lazarus] Request for PR noise !

2006-05-14 Thread Borut Maricic
Just a few thoughts (MHOs): * The success of Lazarus depends on the support for doing useful things in a reliable, nice and easy way - the name is not so important. * Lazarus is/will be on the radar screen of the Delphi users in the first place. These could want to use it because of the multiplat

Re: [lazarus] Request for PR noise !

2006-05-14 Thread Ido Kanner
Quoting Michael Van Canneyt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > On Sun, 14 May 2006, m2 wrote: > > > Michael Van Canneyt a ֳ©crit : > > > People taking offense at this name only make themselves ridiculous. > > > I refuse to take that (or them) serious. ( Yes, and I will take the > > > risk that I will b

[lazarus] Combobox patch

2006-05-14 Thread Colin Western
I think OnChange should be triggered for a combo box when the selection changes - I certainly have several forms that rely on this. The attached patch should match the Delphi behavior Colin diff -wuNr lazarus/lcl/include/customcombobox.inc /dos/fpc/lazarus.w/lcl/include/customcombobox.inc --- la

Re: [lazarus] Request for PR noise !

2006-05-14 Thread Michael Van Canneyt
On Sun, 14 May 2006, m2 wrote: > Michael Van Canneyt a écrit : > > People taking offense at this name only make themselves ridiculous. > > I refuse to take that (or them) serious. ( Yes, and I will take the > > risk that I will burn eternally in hell for this ;-) ) > > As far as I am concerned,

Re: [lazarus] Request for PR noise !

2006-05-14 Thread Florian Klaempfl
I think a name change isn't necessary, but what FPC/Lazarus would need is a group of people doing the same as distributors do: combining FPC/Lazarus into one nice and easy to use package. This project/package could get a new name, probably something descriptive like FreeRAD, OpenRAD or GNU RAD. __