Re: [lazarus] Who is the controlling 'native' widget set in LCL?

Graeme Geldenhuys schrieb: > So, my question again: > Is Win32 the controlling widget set in LCL? Is Win32 the deciding > widget set for what is allowed in the LCL? If Win32 doesn't support > it, it's not going to be supported in the LCL - even if the other > native widget sets support a function

Re: [lazarus] why do delphi users hate lazarus so much?

Florian Klaempfl schrieb: > because of changed memory locations etc. so we know that we can make a memory=file :) _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe" as the Subject arc

Re: [lazarus] why do delphi users hate lazarus so much?

mramirez schrieb: > Compiler Design its not a trivial task. IT'S THE DIFFICULT TASK. A > famous compiler book shows a knight trying to kill a dragon, as a metaphor. Nobody needs compiler building knowledge to push this matter. There are other things which prevent package support - provide an ftp.f

Re: [lazarus] Production quality crosss platform applications

Graeme Geldenhuys schrieb: >> I think it's better to use one of them than play catch with multiple widget >> sets. > > Myself and Giuliano agree, but this has been argued before, so I will > not go into it again. ;-) The core lazarus developers have decided > long ago that using native widgets is

Re: [lazarus] why do delphi users hate lazarus so much?

Warren Postma schrieb: > You still can't install packages in Lazarus because the underlying FPC > compiler lacks a runtime package system that could support a more > delphi-like designtime/runtime packages installation system. Which by > the way is the worst part of Delphi. Everyone complains abou

Re: [lazarus] LazDoc for preparing documentation files

Chris Kirkpatrick schrieb: > All comments are most welcome. Just curious, are the docs as pdf available somewhere or how can I build them? _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe" as the Subjec

Re: [lazarus] Why do Delphi users hate Lazarus so much?

John Stoneham schrieb: > Well, I guess the term "Delphi users" is a little broad, but it seems > that every post that mentions Lazarus on > borland.public.delphi.non-technical gets BLASTED by Delphi fanboys. 90% of the posts in b.p.d.non-tech would be qualified as troll posts on other mailings lis

Re: [lazarus] Where is FpGUI and Lazarus-ccr subversion repository?

Florian Klaempfl schrieb: > Graeme Geldenhuys schrieb: >> Just thought I would let everybody know, the SF.net SubVersion servers >> seem to be back up again. It was some or other hardware failure. >> >> Graeme. >> >> >> On 25/01/2008, Osvaldo TC Fi

Re: [lazarus] Where is FpGUI and Lazarus-ccr subversion repository?

Graeme Geldenhuys schrieb: > Just thought I would let everybody know, the SF.net SubVersion servers > seem to be back up again. It was some or other hardware failure. > > Graeme. > > > On 25/01/2008, Osvaldo TC Filho <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Now, 25/01/2008 11:18 ( -3:00 ) >> >> [EMAIL PRO

Re: [lazarus] Where is FpGUI and Lazarus-ccr subversion repository?

Graeme Geldenhuys schrieb: > On 25/01/2008, Osvaldo TC Filho <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Now, 25/01/2008 11:18 ( -3:00 ) >> >> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/deskx/pascal-src/subversion/lazarus-ccr$ svn up >> svn: Requisição PROPFIND falhou em '/svnroot/lazarus-ccr' >> svn: PROPFIND de '/svnroot/lazarus-ccr

Re: [lazarus] OpenMoko and FPC/Lazarus

Marc Weustink schrieb: > Luca Olivetti wrote: >> En/na Marc Weustink ha escrit: >> >>> From this I assume syscalls in this case are correct and I guess >>> there is some difference between syscall calling and library calling. >> >> Maybe openmoko as an eabi kernel compiled with oabi compatibility?

Re: [lazarus] OpenMoko and FPC/Lazarus

Marc Weustink schrieb: > Marc Weustink wrote: >> Florian Klaempfl wrote: >>> Luca Olivetti schrieb: >>>> En/na Florian Klaempfl ha escrit: >>>> >>>>> It should be enough to build FPC with OPT=-dFPC_ARMEL >>>> So it's now p

Re: [lazarus] Introduction

Lord Satan schrieb: > On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 22:33:53 +0200 "Graeme Geldenhuys" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> I still think having a custom Object Pascal written toolkit for >> Lazarus is the way to go. The LCL would have progressed and >> stabilized much faster if the Lazarus developers did that

Re: [lazarus] OpenMoko and FPC/Lazarus

Luca Olivetti schrieb: > En/na Florian Klaempfl ha escrit: > >> >> It should be enough to build FPC with OPT=-dFPC_ARMEL > > So it's now possible to produce eabi code with fpc? Well, I did initial support. If you provide bugs reports, I'll try to fix them. >

Re: [lazarus] OpenMoko and FPC/Lazarus

Marc Weustink schrieb: > Marc Weustink wrote: >> ik wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> While google suggest rewards for developing applications for Android, >>> there is an open source firmware named OpenMoko >>> (http://openmoko.org/). >>> I asked Michael Shiloh what are some of the requirement in building >>

Re: [lazarus] Making GTK Thread Safe

Giuliano Colla schrieb: >> Isn't that where the dead lock occurs? Suppose Thr1 has just called >> Synchronize and is waiting until the main thread has executed the >> synchronized method, it won't terminate, because you have suppended >> the main thread by waiting for Thr1 to terminate. >> > I'm af

Re: [lazarus] The Fixes Branch

Giuliano Colla schrieb: > It turns out that maintaining the fixes branch is quite heavy and > frustrating at the same time, because the code is in continuous > evolution, and many fixes can't be applied, because the source has been > changed in the meantime. So there's a lot of fruitless work. Att

Re: [lazarus] Become Lazarus developer

Fabio Dell'Aria schrieb: > How I can increases my skills on the Lazarus IDE, LCL and interfaces? Read the wiki, try to fix bugs etc. > > 2007/12/21, Paul Ishenin <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >: > > Fabio Dell'Aria wrote: > > Hi to all, > > > > my question is real

Re: [lazarus] Serial Comm Support Windows

Stephano schrieb: > Jeff Steinkamp wrote: >> I know there is a serial unit for Linux/Unix, but is there similar >> support for serial communications for the Windows Platform? >> > > http://www.luisdigital.com/programacion/fpc/serial.pp May I add this to the rtl? _

Re: [lazarus]

Razvan Adrian Bogdan schrieb: > BTW: Synapse has a unit with quite powerful conversion routines and > handles most of the encodings without any support from iconv, i tested > it and it's wonderful :) > > At first i was against UTF8 but now i understand it's power, UTF8 is > small since most text i

Re: [lazarus] GPU info

Lv schrieb: > My question is along the lines of this paper. > "http://citeseer.ist.psu.edu/555028.html"; > > Is there anybody who developed a unit or did any work for using GPU's > for numerical computation with FPK/Lazarus? Only in C. > > Also, if anyone knows, what are the increase in speed e

Re: [lazarus] Notice: Possible copyright infringements in FPC code base

Martin Waldenburg schrieb: > Michael Van Canneyt schrieb: >> Probably we could put a shellsort behind it, and no-one would notice :-) > > for comparision intensive sorting a well implemented Mergesort > beats everything, For sorting large stringlists a radixsort might be even better? ___

Re: [lazarus] Notice: Possible copyright infringements in FPC code base

Martin Waldenburg schrieb: >> * TStringList.Grow > > Once I have published alternatives to this. > However there cannot be done much more than > using different growing rates. > >> * TStringList.QuickSort > > Same here, a nonrecursive version based on something that I found in > an once famous f

Re: [lazarus] Lazarus IDE revamp

Ciprian Mustiata schrieb: > > The top of reason of forking is: Lazarus itself as IDE, has *not* that > goals, and wanting to achieve that plans in Lazarus development today > has no sense, so instead arguing and fight for every new extra change, > is easier to redesign places where is considered m

Re: [lazarus] The use of Variants?

Graeme Geldenhuys schrieb: > Hi, > > What are your feelings about the use of Variants? I'm debating this > in another NG and would like some outside opinion. > > My personal opinion on Variants: Variant based code is a nightmare to maintain. Just let somebody else extend some variant based code

Re: [lazarus] Bad news

Florian Klaempfl schrieb: > Marc Weustink schrieb: >> Leonardo M. Ramé wrote: >>> http://www.stevetrefethen.com/blog/IWishTheDelphiCommandLineCompilerWereFree.aspx >> >> Where have I heard such accusations before > > ? > > Anyways, I wrote some a

Re: [lazarus] Bad news

Marc Weustink schrieb: > Leonardo M. Ramé wrote: >> http://www.stevetrefethen.com/blog/IWishTheDelphiCommandLineCompilerWereFree.aspx > > > Where have I heard such accusations before ? Anyways, I wrote some answer ... _ T

Re: [lazarus] Bad news

Bee schrieb: >> I must have missed something basic in this thread. What is/was >> CodeGear's reaction to Lazarus? > > I saw some issues on the net. Someone from Borland said that FPC/Lazarus > steal codes from Delphi. Someone other from CodeGear said that > FPC/Lazarus is competitor to Delphi, som

Re: [lazarus] Object Pascal (Delphi & Lazarus) developers are spoilt

Graeme Geldenhuys schrieb: > Hi, > > It's just amazing how many cool features we have in the compilers and > especially the IDE's. The biggest _cool_ feature is the jumping > between Interface and Implementation sections for a method > (Ctrl+Shift+Up/Down). > > Most programing editors support sy

Re: [lazarus] Systems 2007

Michael Van Canneyt schrieb: > Me You? Great :) _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe" as the Subject archives at http://www.lazarus.freepascal.org/mailarchives

Re: [lazarus] svn troubles

Adriaan van Os schrieb: > For me, the Lazarus svn server works very fast, but a colleague in > Canada reports > >> Alazarus/ideintf/idetextconverter.pas >> Alazarus/ideintf/componentreg.pas >> Alazarus/ideintf/graphicpropedit.lrs >> Alazarus/ideintf/treeviewpropedit.pas >> Alaz

Re: [lazarus] going legal, time for a name change....

David Lyon schrieb: > Florian Klaempfl wrote: >> There is no need to register a trademark if you can prove otherwise >> (publications etc.) that you use this trademark. >> > > Florian, > > True. > > You can run for many years without any legal pr

Re: [lazarus] going legal, time for a name change....

David Lyon schrieb: > David Lyon wrote: >> Michael Van Canneyt wrote: >>> Exactly. Same for Belgium; Also, a US trademark as far as I know has >>> no meaning in Europe unless it was also registered in the European >>> trademark organization. > > Not sure if this is the right one. but I have ch

Re: [lazarus] going legal, time for a name change....

David Lyon schrieb: > Legal talk again. > > If you guys are serious about doing a foundation... then you > also must seriously start to entertain the neccessity for a name > change. > > I have looked up Lazarus on the US Trademarks system, it is already > registered. > > tess2.uspto.gov > >

Re: [lazarus] TCanvas.Rectangle(0, 0, 1, 1) issues

Graeme Geldenhuys schrieb: > > I guess I need to adjust fpGUI's Canvas.Rectangle() again! ;-) > I think implementing Canvas.Rectange with parameters (x, y, width, > height) will cause a lot less confusion. Really? Do you measure the width/height between the center of the pixels or do you use th

Re: [lazarus] Question from 100000 of dollars

Jury Azovtzev schrieb: > *"from 10 of dollars" the question could be solve in a short time :))* Well, for US-$ 100,000, I guess it would happen fast :) > > On 7/5/07, * John Meyer* <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > wrote: > > Guadagnini David wrote: > > Boys, when the

Re: [lazarus] What about a "stable" branch?

Vincent Snijders schrieb: > >> >> 4) With painful "diff's", or with information from developers, >> determine the patches to be applied, for bugs fixed since march 27 >> (?), and try to see if what comes out is a working version, or just a >> pitiful mess. This phase can be useful to establish in

Re: [lazarus] A list of required libs for Ubuntu 7.04

Graeme Geldenhuys schrieb: > Hi, > > I just installed Ubuntu 7.04 and thought I would post a listing of all > required libs (packages) to be able to compile FPC, Lazarus and > Lazarus applications using the gtk1 widget set. > > Ubuntu uses the 'apt' package management system, so installing the >

Re: [lazarus] New name for the win32 widget set?

Marc Weustink schrieb: >>> If we don't use GDI, we need another widgetset anyhow, so win would not >>> fit there. >> >> Is it really gdi only? I guess you use at least gdi+ > > IIRC lazarus doens't use gdi+ api calls. Still, I think wingdi sounds old fashioned ;)

Re: [lazarus] New name for the win32 widget set?

Marc Weustink schrieb: > Sam Liddicott wrote: >> * Graeme Geldenhuys wrote, On 18/04/07 11:15: >>> On 4/18/07, Marc Weustink <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> > Or maybe WinGDI ? > > Because it uses the GDI library widgets... Good one >>> I agree, this one makes the most sense. Even

Re: [lazarus] New name for the win32 widget set?

Vincent Snijders schrieb: > Hi, > > The win32 widgetset can be used (with more or less success) on several > windows versions, starting from windows 95, 98, ME, NT, 2000, XP, XP 64, > Vista 64 bits. > > Because Microsoft has done such a good job with the 64 port of the 32 > bit winapi to 64 bits

Re: [lazarus] Howto make streaming ListView items 64 bit safe?

Vincent Snijders schrieb: > Hi, > > The listview example doesn't run on 64 bit computers. This is caused by > the fact that the listview example contains listview items. Those items > are streamed by reading/writing a TItemInfo record for each item with > the following code: > Stream.ReadBuf

Re: [lazarus] History of the widget set design?

Graeme Geldenhuys schrieb: > On 4/3/07, Sergei Gorelkin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Unfortunately, not. By now fpGUI has (most of) the look, but does not >> have the >> feel. For example: > > I was only making a statement against the look. I know the 'feel' as > a lot more outstanding. > Tha

Re: [lazarus] History of the widget set design?

Andrew Haines schrieb: > Graeme Geldenhuys wrote: >> On 4/3/07, Andrew Haines <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> Part of the reason for that, is that there is a lot of old code that was >>> written before the redesign of the underlying interface to the native >>> widgets. And at least for gtk1, it miss

Re: [lazarus] History of the widget set design?

Den Jean schrieb: > On Monday 02 April 2007 17:46, Florian Klaempfl wrote: >> convince somebody to use a Qt or GTK application on Windows or MacOS. >> They will tell you always it looks and behaves strange. Consistent > > ??? > > Qt uses Windows XP style engine on wi

Re: [lazarus] History of the widget set design?

Graeme Geldenhuys schrieb: > On 4/2/07, Florian Klaempfl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> Having native controls is simply something people request. Just try to >> convince somebody to use a Qt or GTK application on Windows or MacOS. >> They will tell you al

Re: [lazarus] History of the widget set design?

Graeme Geldenhuys schrieb: > > Your input would be greatly appreciated. Afaik Lazarus has two goals: being VCL compatible and using the native widget sets of a platform. Having native controls is simply something people request. Just try to convince somebody to use a Qt or GTK application on Win

Re: [lazarus] Regenerate Makefiles ?

Vincent Snijders schrieb: > Michael Van Canneyt schreef: >> >> On Sun, 1 Apr 2007, Vincent Snijders wrote: >> >>> Michael Van Canneyt schreef: Hello, In order to be able to create shared libraries with the LCL on X86_64 systems, >>> All X86_64 systems, or just x86_64-linux? >> >

Re: [lazarus] Document editing (doc, rtf) and/or interfacing with external editors

Razvan Adrian Bogdan schrieb: > Win only is enough for now but Lazarus doesn't support ActiveX (COM) It does? _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe" as the Subject archives at http://www.l

Re: [lazarus] ReadXMLFile memory leaks?

George Lober schrieb: >> It surely must have been late last night, that I did not see this. >> Free doesn't free if it points to a nil pointer. >>> ANode := nil; >>> ANode.Free; >>> Doc := nil; >>> Doc.Free; >> >> Remove the Doc:=nil line. >> > > Yes, That was the culprit. Thanks. Use FreeAnd

Re: [lazarus] an extended mapi unit...

Roozbeh GHolizadeh schrieb: > i find one-and seems to be the only-usable pascal unit to work with > mapi(mail api)and emapi(extended mail api). > it does offer ways to read,send,and do other things with outlook. > currently these interfaces are the only way to send sms,mms,... in wince > mobile dev

Re: [lazarus] OT: Döner was Re: Ideas to imp lement AllocateHwnd

Michael Van Canneyt schrieb: > > On Mon, 26 Feb 2007, Florian Klaempfl wrote: > >> Michael Van Canneyt schrieb: >>> On Mon, 26 Feb 2007, Florian Klaempfl wrote: >>> >>>> Sönmez Kartal schrieb: >>>>> Hi, >>>>> &g

Re: [lazarus] OT: Döner was Re: Ideas to imp lement AllocateHwnd

Michael Van Canneyt schrieb: > > On Mon, 26 Feb 2007, Florian Klaempfl wrote: > >> Sönmez Kartal schrieb: >>> Hi, >>> >>> As I know, European people didn't know Döner and/or similar foods until >>> Turkish people move there. >> &g

[lazarus] OT: Döner was Re: Ideas to implemen t AllocateHwnd

taste. The döner has been the most popular fast food dish in Germany since the 1980s." > > Regards > > Florian Klaempfl wrote: >> Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho schrieb: >>> On 2/25/07, Al Boldi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>>> The usual way to br

Re: Ideas to implement AllocateHwnd

Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho schrieb: On 2/25/07, Al Boldi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: The usual way to break circular references, is to add them to the uses clause of the implementation section. Here it won't work because I use that type on the interface. Latter I will try vincent´s idea ...

Re: [lazarus] Suse linux with mono tools vmware image

Vincent Snijders schrieb: > Graeme Geldenhuys schreef: >> Yes there is. I created two images, one using Linux (Ubuntu) and the >> other with a Win2000 install. I use both for development and testing >> and wanted to place the Linux image on my server for download, but my >> bandwidth per month is

Re: [lazarus] Suse linux with mono tools vmware image

Graeme Geldenhuys schrieb: > Yes there is. I created two images, one using Linux (Ubuntu) and the > other with a Win2000 install. I use both for development and testing > and wanted to place the Linux image on my server for download, but my > bandwidth per month is limited and I don't have a fast

Re: [lazarus] keyboard/mouse script for linux

Vincent Snijders schrieb: Hi, I am trying to create some automated tests for lcl applications (see lazarus\test). ATM these application just start and in the first application OnIdle event write some output to the console (for example the color of a component or the height of a scrollbar) and

Re: [lazarus] Why the results of both executions differ?

Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho schrieb: On 2/7/07, Arí Ricardo Ody <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: How is being your new life in Germany??? I am freezing in here =) You're in Germany now? Where, if I may ask? _ To unsubscribe: mai

Re: [lazarus] Lazarus File bigger then Delphi File?

m2 schrieb: > Florian Klaempfl a écrit : >> George Birbilis schrieb: >>>> let me ask you a few questions: >>>> are you still using 1.44 floppies? >>>> are you sending compiled execs 20 times a day via 56k >>>> modem conne

Re: [lazarus] Lazarus File bigger then Delphi File?

George Birbilis schrieb: >> let me ask you a few questions: >> are you still using 1.44 floppies? >> are you sending compiled execs 20 times a day via 56k >> modem connection? >> no? then why 1 or 2 mb bigger is so bad for you? >> btw, delphi is NOT multiplatform. whan

Re: [lazarus] Lazarus for Python (L4P)

Michael Van Canneyt schrieb: > > On Wed, 17 Jan 2007, Tiziano_mk wrote: > >> Al Boldi wrote: >>> Tiziano_mk wrote: I wish to add this missing item that i find more interesting: "Maybe you want to use python to control OpenOffice with Free pascal?" It's possible, just embed FPC

Re: [lazarus] utf8toansi

Sebastian Kraft schrieb: same thing the other way round: I read an iso8859 string from a textfile. e.g. the 'ö' is encoded by 0xF6. When I output this string to gtk2 listview the 'ö' is drawn as '?'. Even when I do utf8encode or ansitoutf8 on the string containing 'ö' it is still shown as unkn

Re: [lazarus] utf8toansi

Sebastian Kraft schrieb: Hello, have a problem with the function utf8toansi. I'm using kubuntu 6.10 with german utf8 locale. I get an input from a Gtk2 TEdit component including special characters like "äöü". I save this input to an ansistring. Then I want to write this string to a file in a

Re: [lazarus] Project WiX opensource - make MSI from XML

Sergei Gorelkin schrieb: > > And, like the case of .NET, I'll take the .Net being the only "API" serious as soon as MS shows an office being completely .Net. > there are rumors about that no install > technologies except .msi will be supported on Windows in some future. >

Re: [lazarus] repository

George Birbilis schrieb: >> All this is possible, but IMHO it is nonsense to put effort >> into creating such a snapshot. >> >> I think there is some intelligence test, test if people >> persevere enough. If a person cannot find the link to getting >> the sources from the home page and follow those

Re: [lazarus] TList-Doku?

Marc Weustink schrieb: > Michael Van Canneyt wrote: >> >> On Thu, 30 Nov 2006, ht wrote: >> >>> Trying to transfer a Program from kylix to lazarus i have the >>> following problem: >>> >>> I declared: >>> hListe: TList; >>> >>> and then >>> GetElement := hListe.Items[1]; >>> >>> Trying

Re: [lazarus] Password hashing function

Sergei Gorelkin schrieb: > Friday, November 24, 2006, 12:36:35 PM, Bram wrote: > > BK> A.J. Venter wrote: >>> That seemed to work fine - except it turns out that MD5 is even LESS >>> reliable >>> than I thought, at least on small data. >>> I had a bug report (and confirmed it) that you can log

Re: [lazarus] Password hashing function

Sergei Gorelkin schrieb: > Friday, November 24, 2006, 12:36:35 PM, Bram wrote: > > BK> A.J. Venter wrote: >>> That seemed to work fine - except it turns out that MD5 is even LESS >>> reliable >>> than I thought, at least on small data. >>> I had a bug report (and confirmed it) that you can log

Re: [lazarus] From commercial to open-source (Delphi to Lazarus)

Graeme Geldenhuys schrieb: > On 11/23/06, Fujimaki Haruyuki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> The lesson I've learned from the Kylix tragedy is that >> relying too much upon a private company, >> which works not for users but for stockholders, is risky. >> >> I also deeply feel that a (Delphi)"communit

Re: [lazarus] WinCE Patch

Christian Ulrich schrieb: > By the way, another problem has somebody tried the interface on real devices > ? I tried simple programs on my mobile (Windows Mobile 5). > I have strange problems with the tbitmap implementation on my Pocket pc 3.0 Can you post some sample project? _

Re: [lazarus] 0.9.20 released

Al Boldi schrieb: Mattias Gaertner wrote: The Lazarus team is glad to announce the 0.9.20 release. This release is based on fpc 2.0.4. This release can be downloaded from the sourceforge download page: http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=89339 Are there any incremental tarba

Re: [lazarus] Lazarus and DOT Net

George Birbilis schrieb: 3. ASP.NET ties you to the Windows IIS server. Apache is still the most used webserver, PHP the most used web scripting language. As a avid web developer I feel it worth mentioning that PHP is on it's way out. It is my somewhat informed opinion that not as

Re: [lazarus] Lazarus and DOT Net

George Birbilis schrieb: I wouldn't call the Ximian guys bad ones (even after they were bought by Novell), nor the GNU guys, do you? Well, I guess you got that Microsoft "invented" .Net and holds the .Net patents? Or didn't they tell you this at your lessons about marketing .Net? I don't get

Re: IronPython (was: RE: [lazarus] Lazarus and DOT Net)

George Birbilis schrieb: For those guys that liked Python, I think the following is a compiler, not interpretter: First, what has this to do with lazarus? This isn't discussion related but plain advertisment. Further, no .Net language is really compiled but only translated into CLI: see all t

Re: [lazarus] Lazarus and DOT Net

George Birbilis schrieb: Maybe not enough people have enough interest in Lazarus future at all Anyway you can put up a poll if you wish e.g. at the Lazarus site Since the numbers increase steadily Lazarus is definitvely on the right way. Following some shitty technology done by the bad ugly gu

Re: [lazarus] Lazarus and DOT Net

George Birbilis schrieb: .NET isn't a platform, it's a framework (a bad one). This is your opinion, accepted, but unfounded This is a fact. Maybe not enough people have enough interest in Lazarus future at all Anyway you can put up a poll if you wish e.g. at the Lazarus site Since the num

Re: [lazarus] Lazarus and DOT Net

George Birbilis schrieb: Portable.NET is interesting stuff too (different beast from Ximian/Novell's Mono and from the reference CLR implementation or .NET runtime from MS) George Birbilis ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Microsoft MVP J# 2004-2006 Borland "Spirit of Delphi" http://w

Re: [lazarus] Lazarus and DOT Net

George Birbilis schrieb: * Any commercial app for .NET in Object Pascal without buying an IDE (Chorme and Borland tools aren't free for commercial use) or moving to other language Again at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Delphi explorer for .Net is free and can be used for commercial development.

Re: [lazarus] Lazarus and DOT Net

George Birbilis schrieb: That app is alive online after several years (was made with VS.net 2002 and .NET1.0) Initial project was just 1euro including the cleanup of the original VB6 Outsourced to China? application. Users registered to the web application are 75000, with peaks usually a

Re: [lazarus] a bounty

Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho schrieb: I just did svn update, and then make clean all LCL_PLATFORM=gtk2 Opened lazarus. Menu Environment -> Environment Options Now Lazarus freezes and I need to use the command line to kill it. This is Mantis bug 7619 Works here? ___

Re: [lazarus] a bounty

Ales Katona schrieb: IOW, what is still missing in the gtk2 support? It's not about "what is missing" more like "what is working properly and what not". Ever ran environment options in gtk2 lazarus? It's slow, blinks and takes ages to show up. Ever tried working in gtk2 synedit? Same story.

Re: [lazarus] Lazarus and DOT Net

johnf schrieb: On Tuesday 31 October 2006 03:35, Marco van de Voort wrote: On Mon, Oct 30, 2006 at 07:02:13PM -0800, johnf wrote: If writting a wrapper was easy why haven't we got a completed QT interface? The same reason as why GTK exists at all. QT had license problems for a long while. Ther

Re: [lazarus] Lazarus and DOT Net

George Birbilis schrieb: I'm speaking of MS new APIs and products. Yes, which are dropped after a few years, see e.g. VB. VB.net is VB on steroids in my opinion. This doesn't help people losing their old code base. People followed another Microsoft hype and now they are lost. I didn't ha

Re: [lazarus] Lazarus and DOT Net

George Birbilis schrieb: I'm speaking of MS new APIs and products. Yes, which are dropped after a few years, see e.g. VB. VB.net is VB on steroids in my opinion. This doesn't help people losing their old code base. People followed another Microsoft hype and now they are lost. __

Re: [lazarus] Lazarus and DOT Net

George Birbilis schrieb: > And why should we do so? I still don't see what .Net offers > what FPC can't do better without adding another dependency on > Microsoft. Because there will be no more Win32 API use from Microsoft in the future. Given that in Vista about 40 out of 2000 core libraries

Re: [lazarus] Lazarus and DOT Net

Michael Van Canneyt schrieb: On Tue, 31 Oct 2006, Florian Klaempfl wrote: George Birbilis schrieb: And why should we do so? I still don't see what .Net offers what FPC can't do better without adding another dependency on Microsoft. Because there will be no more Win32 API use from

Re: [lazarus] Lazarus and DOT Net

johnf schrieb: If writting a wrapper was easy why haven't we got a completed QT interface? Because Qt is GPL or expensive so few people are really interessted in it. Why does the GTK2 have so many bugs? I use lazarus gtk2 now daily and it works fine. With regard to the speed of Pytho

Re: [lazarus] Lazarus and DOT Net

George Birbilis schrieb: And why should we do so? I still don't see what .Net offers what FPC can't do better without adding another dependency on Microsoft. Because there will be no more Win32 API use from Microsoft in the future. Please stop spreading this FUD. This is the lazarus mailing l

Re: [lazarus] Lazarus and DOT Net

johnf schrieb: Python is nice OOP language Can you name apps? Afaik it is mostly used for a bit of in application scripting and some webapps. But is it really a Delphi replacement? I doubt it. What does it use for GUI btw? I assume you are not kidding about the apps. IMHO smart (a package u

Re: [lazarus] Lazarus and DOT Net

Cesar Romero schrieb: And why should we do so? I still don't see what .Net offers what FPC can't do better without adding another dependency on Microsoft. Exactly! Not to mention that Microsoft's .NET is not cross-platform. Yes, Mono is trying to make it cross-platform, but they are forever

Re: [lazarus] Lazarus and DOT Net

David Mears schrieb: What are you talking about, think about all the speed, power and control you can give up in exchange for lots of extra programming time! Feel free to use VS and get a happy hyper :) _ To unsubscribe: mail

Re: [lazarus] Lazarus and DOT Net

George Birbilis schrieb: Who says you have to learn a new language? Since Borland did it with Delphi.net and provided Object Pascal compiler for .NET with not many changes to Object Pascal language, then FreePascal can also do it. And why should we do so? I still don't see what .Net offers what

Re: [fpc-devel] Daily Lazarus Win64 snapshots

Rod schrieb: Would like to see daily Lazarus Win64 snapshots on http://www.hu.freepascal.org/lazarus/ Lazarus people refused to do so because there is no native build machine which could do it. Non native builds have the disadvantage that nobody notices if even the compiler is broken. _

Re: [lazarus] Lazarus and DOT Net

Thomas Miller schrieb: Florian Klaempfl wrote: Thomas Miller wrote: I think most people are interested in ASP.Net as it makes developing web aps almost as easy as developing native aps in Delphi. I still use Delphi for native and Chrome with ASP.Net for web development. http

Re: [lazarus] Lazarus and DOT Net

Thomas Miller wrote: > I think most people are interested in ASP.Net as it makes developing web > aps almost as easy as developing native aps in Delphi. > > I still use Delphi for native and Chrome with ASP.Net for web development. > > http://www.chromesville.com/index.asp? > > I don't use Lazar

Re: [lazarus] First Success with Lazarus!

Nataraj S Narayan schrieb: Hi I did as told. Now the size has come down from 14M to 2.7M. But still isnt it on the higher side for a single form program, with 5 SQLQuery components and about 50 lines of code? It's 50 lines of your code but there is done a lot behind the scenes. Just add

Re: [lazarus] Much Qt Progress

Vincent Snijders wrote: > > What are the possibilities for adding the unit to the fpc repository? Of course, if someone is willing todo so ;) > > I wonder what would be the best way to distribute the libqtintf.dll / so. fpcbuild?

Re: [lazarus] Bug Tracking, of nothing serves?

Onjahyr schrieb: What usefulness to lose time sending BUG if never it has solution? Good, I believe that this tool still does not give to use, the Java does not give work in such a way. A so simple thing not to have solution as Vicente affirms... Well, provide a patch and it will be solved.

Re: [lazarus] The spirit lost of Borland

J. Peter Mugaas schrieb: On Fri, 08 Sep 2006 18:32:16 +0700, Bisma Jayadi wrote: I work with people using D7 and D2005. They all were amazed at the things you can do with Lazarus and FPC on Win32. Hence the decision to start learning Win32 development using FPC/Lazarus and not Delphi. I wor

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