Re: [Leaf-devel] Anonymous FTP

2000-11-03 Thread Mike Noyes
At 01:55 PM 11/3/00 -0800, Ray Olszewski wrote: >Discussions of theory are nice, but they need to be grounded in the facts. >Here are some facts. > >At 12:02 PM 11/3/00 -0800, Mike Noyes wrote: > > >High-capacity File Server > >http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=13751 > >ftp://

Re: [Leaf-devel] Anonymous FTP

2000-11-03 Thread Ray Olszewski
Discussions of theory are nice, but they need to be grounded in the facts. Here are some facts. At 12:02 PM 11/3/00 -0800, Mike Noyes wrote: >High-capacity File Server >http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=13751 >ftp://download.sourceforge.net/pub/sourceforge/leaf/ I can connec

Re: [Leaf-devel] Anonymous FTP

2000-11-03 Thread Ray Olszewski
At 01:16 PM 11/3/00 -0600, David Douthitt wrote: ... >Unless I'm mistaken, the FTP protocol has nothing whatsoever to do >with mime-types, et al - only "ascii" or "bin" - and this only to do >carriage-return conversions. > >Mime-types, I believe, are only present in HTTP downloads, which is >wh

Re: [Leaf-devel] Anonymous FTP

2000-11-03 Thread Mike Sensney
What IE does is documented. You just have to dig a little to find it. http://msdn.microsoft.com/workshop/networking/moniker/overview/appendix_a.asp At 10:55 AM 11/03/2000 -0800, Ray Olszewski wrote: >Netscape trusts the accuracy the mime type reported by the Web server. >Period. If it is wrong,

Re: [Leaf-devel] Anonymous FTP

2000-11-03 Thread Mike Noyes
At 01:16 PM 11/3/00 -0600, David Douthitt wrote: >On 3 Nov 2000, at 10:55, Ray Olszewski wrote: > > > At 01:16 PM 11/3/00 -0500, Rick Onanian wrote: > > > >However, it would be important to know how web browsers choose > > >binary or ASCII for FTPing. I would guess that they do it > > >based on th

Re: [Leaf-devel] Anonymous FTP

2000-11-03 Thread Rick Onanian
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > no, they trust the server's mime.types config file. > > the web admin, should add the 'img' extension/string to the > 'application/octet-stream' entry on the mime.types Please, people, while in this discussion, keep in mind that we're talking about FTP, not HTTP. Look

Re: [Leaf-devel] Upload complete

2000-11-03 Thread Mike Noyes
At 01:05 PM 11/3/00 -0500, Rick Onanian wrote: >Eiger source has completed uploading >to ftp://download.sourceforge.net/incoming. Unfortunately, it looks like those uploads killed the server. I haven't been able to release any files since they were uploaded. :( Would someone with Leaf project ad

[Leaf-devel] FW: [LRP] Dialbackup...?

2000-11-03 Thread PBarreto
this seems like a feature that leaf should incorporate, to face comercial routers that alow this type of redundancy. comments??? pedro > -Original Message- > From: Tom Cameron [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, November 03, 2000 7:14 PM > To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' > Cc: '[EMAIL PR

Re: [Leaf-devel] Anonymous FTP

2000-11-03 Thread David Douthitt
On 3 Nov 2000, at 10:55, Ray Olszewski wrote: > At 01:16 PM 11/3/00 -0500, Rick Onanian wrote: > >However, it would be important to know how web browsers choose > >binary or ASCII for FTPing. I would guess that they do it > >based on their own mime-type list. > > This has been discussed again a

Re: [Leaf-devel] Anonymous FTP

2000-11-03 Thread Mike Noyes
It looks like this conversation may be moot. I just ran into a limitation of the Anonymous FTP directory. Apparently, you can't chown a directory once created, and only the person that creates the dir has write privileges. I deleted the eigerstein and oxygen directories I created. David and Ch

RE: [Leaf-devel] Anonymous FTP

2000-11-03 Thread PBarreto
> -Original Message- > From: Rick Onanian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, November 03, 2000 6:16 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [Leaf-devel] Anonymous FTP > > > Ray Olszewski wrote: > > >Until proven otherwise, I would assume the default ftp > download would be >

Re: [Leaf-devel] Anonymous FTP

2000-11-03 Thread Rick Onanian
Ray Olszewski wrote: > >However, it would be important to know how web browsers choose > >binary or ASCII for FTPing. I would guess that they do it > >based on their own mime-type list. > > This has been discussed again and again back on the LRP list. Neither of the > major browsers does what you

Re: [Leaf-devel] Anonymous FTP

2000-11-03 Thread David Douthitt
On 3 Nov 2000, at 10:19, Ray Olszewski wrote: > At 11:52 AM 11/3/00 -0600, David Douthitt wrote: > >Another question: if I take module X from system X with kernel A, and > >move module X to system Z with kernel A (same version kernel), is > >this going to work assuming that system X and system

Re: [Leaf-devel] Anonymous FTP

2000-11-03 Thread Mike Noyes
At 01:31 PM 11/3/00 -0500, Rick Onanian wrote: >Can we please have Reply-to munging on? I just sent this to the LRP >list...force of habit, automatic pilot, absent-mindedness, whatever... Done. I may change it back though. It depends on possible solutions to the member_posting_only=yes problem.

Re: [Leaf-devel] Anonymous FTP

2000-11-03 Thread Ray Olszewski
At 01:16 PM 11/3/00 -0500, Rick Onanian wrote: ... > >Web browsers are not good FTP clients. True. But when you offer the ftp site from a Web-based link, you have to anticipate that they will often be used to access the ftp site and take account of their limitations. Whether you like them or not

Re: [Leaf-devel] Anonymous FTP

2000-11-03 Thread Rick Onanian
Can we please have Reply-to munging on? I just sent this to the LRP list...force of habit, automatic pilot, absent-mindedness, whatever... Ray Olszewski wrote: > Just to be clear, Rick ... my experience compiling kernels (pretty much > limited to 2.0.36, 2.2.13, and 2.2.17 ... but I can't imagin

Re: [Leaf-devel] Anonymous FTP

2000-11-03 Thread Mike Noyes
At 10:25 AM 11/3/00 -0800, Ray Olszewski wrote: >At 09:53 AM 11/3/00 -0800, Mike Noyes wrote: >... > > > >Until proven otherwise, I would assume the default ftp download would > >be binary. This may bite me later. > >It's already "bit" us, I think. > >Isn't my report from yesterday a valid counter

Re: [Leaf-devel] Oxygen Release

2000-11-03 Thread David Douthitt
On 3 Nov 2000, at 10:05, Mike Noyes wrote: > At 11:36 AM 11/3/00 -0600, David Douthitt wrote: > >The correct Oxygen release is September 2000, not "2000" - there's > >two months left :) > > Wasn't the last Oyxgen release Oct 25 2000? At the rate you're > updating Oxygen, I thought it best to use

Re: [Leaf-devel] Online

2000-11-03 Thread Charles Steinkuehler
> Charles, > I'm glad to see you arrived safely. When you have time (no rush) would you > move your files on the leaf site from: > /home/groups/leaf/htdocs/addons/images > to: > /home/groups/ftp/pub/leaf/eigerstein/ > > I'd like to save the 100MB were allowed for the web site. Thanks. Will do...I

Re: [Leaf-devel] Anonymous FTP

2000-11-03 Thread Rick Onanian
Ray Olszewski wrote: > >Until proven otherwise, I would assume the default ftp download would be > >binary. This may bite me later. > > It's already "bit" us, I think. > > Isn't my report from yesterday a valid counter-example to your assumption? > Surely Sourceforge didn't *explicitly* make the

Re: [Leaf-devel] Anonymous FTP

2000-11-03 Thread Ray Olszewski
At 01:04 PM 11/3/00 -0500, Rick Onanian wrote: ... >Kernel modules are more flexible than we give them credit for. > >If you compile 2.2.16 kernels on five machines, each with their >own configurations and each compiling different modules, then >the modules compiled on one are very likely to work

[Leaf-devel] Upload complete

2000-11-03 Thread Rick Onanian
Eiger source has completed uploading to ftp://download.sourceforge.net/incoming. -- rick -- A mind is like a parachute... it only works when it's open. ICQ# 1590117 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] (home) Help with LRP: lrp.c0wz.com 68 Camaro wanted: dingo.mcrnet.net Windows u

Re: [Leaf-devel] Anonymous FTP

2000-11-03 Thread Ray Olszewski
At 09:53 AM 11/3/00 -0800, Mike Noyes wrote: ... > >Until proven otherwise, I would assume the default ftp download would be >binary. This may bite me later. It's already "bit" us, I think. Isn't my report from yesterday a valid counter-example to your assumption? Surely Sourceforge didn't *exp

Re: [Leaf-devel] Anonymous FTP

2000-11-03 Thread Rick Onanian
David Douthitt wrote: > Another question: if I take module X from system X with kernel A, and > move module X to system Z with kernel A (same version kernel), is > this going to work assuming that system X and system Z are binary- > compatible? Kernel modules are more flexible than we give them c

Re: [Leaf-devel] Anonymous FTP

2000-11-03 Thread Ray Olszewski
At 11:52 AM 11/3/00 -0600, David Douthitt wrote: >On 3 Nov 2000, at 9:27, Ray Olszewski wrote: > >> Or possibly the modules should just be in with the kernel, all in a >> single tarball ... > >This is the way the LRP kernels were bundled; despite the large size, >I appreciated it since all the m

Re: [Leaf-devel] Oxygen Release

2000-11-03 Thread Mike Noyes
At 11:36 AM 11/3/00 -0600, David Douthitt wrote: >The correct Oxygen release is September 2000, not "2000" - there's >two months left :) Wasn't the last Oyxgen release Oct 25 2000? At the rate you're updating Oxygen, I thought it best to use the year only (BAD e.g. Windows 2000). This will allo

Re: [Leaf-devel] Anonymous FTP

2000-11-03 Thread Mike Noyes
At 09:27 AM 11/3/00 -0800, Ray Olszewski wrote: >At 08:51 AM 11/3/00 -0800, Mike Noyes wrote: > >At 07:59 AM 11/3/00 -0800, Mike Noyes wrote: > >>I just created Anonymous FTP directories for eigerstein and oxygen. > >> > >>ftp://leaf.sourceforge.net/pub/leaf/ > > > >Should we create kernel and mod

Re: [Leaf-devel] Anonymous FTP

2000-11-03 Thread David Douthitt
On 3 Nov 2000, at 9:27, Ray Olszewski wrote: > Or possibly the modules should just be in with the kernel, all in a > single tarball ... This is the way the LRP kernels were bundled; despite the large size, I appreciated it since all the modules were included with the Linux kernel - no mistaki

[Leaf-devel] Oxygen Release

2000-11-03 Thread David Douthitt
The correct Oxygen release is September 2000, not "2000" - there's two months left :) -- David Douthitt UNIX Systems Administrator HP-UX, Linux, Unixware [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Leaf-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.sourceforge.net/mail

Re: [Leaf-devel] Anonymous FTP

2000-11-03 Thread Ray Olszewski
At 08:51 AM 11/3/00 -0800, Mike Noyes wrote: >At 07:59 AM 11/3/00 -0800, Mike Noyes wrote: >>I just created Anonymous FTP directories for eigerstein and oxygen. >> >>ftp://leaf.sourceforge.net/pub/leaf/ > >Should we create kernel and module directories in the Anonymous FTP area? It might be bette

Re: [Leaf-devel] Anonymous FTP

2000-11-03 Thread Mike Noyes
At 07:59 AM 11/3/00 -0800, Mike Noyes wrote: >I just created Anonymous FTP directories for eigerstein and oxygen. > >ftp://leaf.sourceforge.net/pub/leaf/ Should we create kernel and module directories in the Anonymous FTP area? -- Mike Noyes [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sourceforge.net/projects/leaf

Re: [Leaf-devel] EigerStein & Oxygen images released

2000-11-03 Thread Rick Onanian
Mike Noyes wrote: > Ok, but I was referring to the original upload that was released on the LRP > SF site. You didn't flake, because this is the first request I sent for > upload assistance. No, really, I'm sure you asked me to do it again since the original upload, after leaf started. Okay, anyw

Re: [Leaf-devel] EigerStein & Oxygen images released

2000-11-03 Thread Mike Noyes
At 10:45 AM 11/3/00 -0500, Rick Onanian wrote: >Mike Noyes wrote: > > Rick, > > I hate to ask you to do this again, but would you upload the source > > for Eiger to download.sourceforge.net? > >Don't hate asking me to do it again..sometimes I flake and you >have to remind me. That goes for everyon

Re: [Leaf-devel] Oxygen packages

2000-11-03 Thread Mike Noyes
At 09:55 AM 11/3/00 -0600, David Douthitt wrote: >In the current list context, is there going to be a package >repository on the LEAF ftp? David, You now have a ftp directory to do with as you please at: ftp://leaf.sourceforge.net/pub/leaf/oxygen/ -- Mike Noyes [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sourcefo

Re: [Leaf-devel] Oxygen packages

2000-11-03 Thread David Douthitt
On 3 Nov 2000, at 9:07, Rick Onanian wrote: > David Douthitt wrote: > > On 2 Nov 2000, at 15:24, Mike Noyes wrote: > > > > > Are the packages in lrp.c0wz.com/files/packages/ddout/incoming > > > directory ready for prime time? > > > > As far as I know. I didn't put them there :) > > Hey, I did

Re: [Leaf-devel] EigerStein & Oxygen images released

2000-11-03 Thread Rick Onanian
Mike Noyes wrote: > Rick, > I hate to ask you to do this again, but would you upload the source for > Eiger to download.sourceforge.net? Don't hate asking me to do it again..sometimes I flake and you have to remind me. That goes for everyone who asks me to do things...if it doesn't get done promp

[Leaf-devel] Anonymous FTP

2000-11-03 Thread Mike Noyes
I just created Anonymous FTP directories for eigerstein and oxygen. ftp://leaf.sourceforge.net/pub/leaf/ David & Charles, Please follow the instructions here to upload files: http://sourceforge.net/docman/display_doc.php?docid=792&group_id=1 -- Mike Noyes [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sourceforge.ne

[Leaf-devel] Online

2000-11-03 Thread Charles Steinkuehler
I've made it to Texas, and am back online (with a full T1, but I have to share it with a bunch of other folks :< ) I'm fairly busy, but I'll try to at least read all the list mail. Expect a reduced number of responses, however. Charles Steinkuehler http://lrp.steinkuehler.net http://c0wz.steink

Re: [Leaf-devel] EigerStein & Oxygen images released

2000-11-03 Thread Rick Onanian
Mike Noyes wrote: > We discussed this possibility when the problem came up on the LRP SF site. > I didn't try to upload a .htaccess file to download.sourceforge.net, so it > may work. For now I'm just going to upload the files again with the .bin > extension. It's a more consistent way to designat

Re: [Leaf-devel] EigerStein & Oxygen images released

2000-11-03 Thread Mike Noyes
At 09:02 AM 11/3/00 -0500, Rick Onanian wrote: >You may be able to modify, for our directories, the mime-types >using a .htaccess file. We discussed this possibility when the problem came up on the LRP SF site. I didn't try to upload a .htaccess file to download.sourceforge.net, so it may work.

Re: [Leaf-devel] Oxygen packages

2000-11-03 Thread Rick Onanian
David Douthitt wrote: > On 2 Nov 2000, at 15:24, Mike Noyes wrote: > > > Are the packages in lrp.c0wz.com/files/packages/ddout/incoming > > directory ready for prime time? > > As far as I know. I didn't put them there :) Hey, I didn't make 'em. ;) > I think Rick got tired of trying to keep up

Re: [Leaf-devel] EigerStein & Oxygen images released

2000-11-03 Thread Rick Onanian
Ray Olszewski wrote: > 1. The extension .ima (as in Oxygen_2000_img_extras.ima) is not recognized > by the Sourceforge Web server as binary; neither is .img (as in > EigerStein_contrib_img_pppoe-beta0.2.img). In both instance, my Netscape on > Windows tries to display it as text. You might want to

Re: [Leaf-devel] Oxygen packages

2000-11-03 Thread David Douthitt
On 2 Nov 2000, at 17:56, Mike Noyes wrote: > Why don't you setup a directory on the Leaf Anoymous FTP directory > for your packages. Charles was able to rsync his files to the Leaf > site real quick. How do I do that? -- David Douthitt UNIX Systems Administrator HP-UX, Linux, Unixware [EMAIL

Re: [Leaf-devel] EigerStein & Oxygen images released

2000-11-03 Thread Mike Noyes
At 02:59 PM 11/2/00 -0800, Ray Olszewski wrote: >Mike -- A couple of details. > >1. The extension .ima (as in Oxygen_2000_img_extras.ima) is not recognized >by the Sourceforge Web server as binary; neither is .img (as in >EigerStein_contrib_img_pppoe-beta0.2.img). In both instance, my Netscape

RE: --off list-- Leaf Logo

2000-11-03 Thread PBarreto
I'm doing something simple on 3dstudio max3, just the LEAF 'word' with the description beneath and the 'the internet leaf and you' above. but I've asked a friend of mine who's an artist, to draw an adequate tux for leaf!!! during this weekend I hope to post something. but I'll have something ve

[Leaf-devel] New Lists

2000-11-03 Thread Mike Noyes
Everyone, [EMAIL PROTECTED] and [EMAIL PROTECTED] are now available. -- Mike Noyes [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sourceforge.net/projects/leaf ___ Leaf-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.sourceforge.net/mailman/listinfo/leaf-devel