Patches item #683754, was opened at 2003-02-09 23:58
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Category: packages
Group: None
Status: Open
Resolution: None
Priority: 5
Submitted By: Walter Cardwell (bignowhere)
Assigned to: Nob
On Sun, 2003-02-09 at 11:55, Ray Olszewski wrote:
> At 11:03 AM 2/9/03 -0800, Mike Noyes wrote:
> > > One way to cut down list traffic would be to separate the two more
> > > cleanly,
> > > so that Sourceforge Support messages did not also appear on leaf-user.
> > > Personally, I'd favor that, if o
On Sun, 2003-02-09 at 12:55, Charles Steinkuehler wrote:
> I personally find web forums and newsgroups much more difficult to
> manage than a simple e-mail list. If we switched to such a format, I
> for one would probably be heard from a lot less...not because of any
> change in desire to help,
On Sun, 2003-02-09 at 12:48, Ray Olszewski wrote:
> At 10:42 PM 2/9/03 +0200, Vladimir I. wrote:
> >Mike Noyes wrote about "Re: [leaf-devel] ML volume":
> > > > Is this solution acceptable? If so, I'll create release/branch specific
> > > > lists upon LEAF release/branch lead developer request.
> >
Mike Noyes wrote:
Everyone,
It has come to my attention that our leaf-user list volume is
discouraging some/many users from using it. We have a variety of options
to address this issue.
a) Keep things as they are.
b) NNTP support (news.gmane.org and/or nntp.sourceforge.net)
At 10:42 PM 2/9/03 +0200, Vladimir I. wrote:
Mike Noyes wrote about "Re: [leaf-devel] ML volume":
> > Everyone,
> > Is this solution acceptable? If so, I'll create release/branch specific
> > lists upon LEAF release/branch lead developer request.
>
> +1 to Ray's solution.
You didn't count me in
Mike Noyes wrote about "Re: [leaf-devel] ML volume":
> > Everyone,
> > Is this solution acceptable? If so, I'll create release/branch specific
> > lists upon LEAF release/branch lead developer request.
>
> +1 to Ray's solution.
You didn't count me in yet? :)
--
Best Regards,
Vladimir
Systems E
On Sun, 2003-02-09 at 11:59, Lynn Avants wrote:
> In any respect, a link to the package-list/links on the php menu would
> prove most useful for many people. I often have a hard time finding the
> location of the list myself.
Lynn,
Added to my to-do list. I thought I already placed a link to it o
On Sun, 2003-02-09 at 12:12, Mike Noyes wrote:
> On Sun, 2003-02-09 at 11:55, Ray Olszewski wrote:
> > Asuming the individual involved is the lead person on a branch, I'd very
> > much recommand providing *that* branch with a separate
> > leaf-something_or_other list and modifying (a) the SR FAQ
On Sunday 09 February 2003 02:12 pm, Mike Noyes wrote:
> On Sun, 2003-02-09 at 11:55, Ray Olszewski wrote:
> > Really, it need not be all or nothing here; "fairness" does not enter
> > into it. A branch-specific list is a benefit to the developer only if he
> > sees it that way; for some, it could
On Sun, 2003-02-09 at 11:59, Michael D. Schleif wrote:
> "Vladimir I." wrote:
> > No need to keep it secret - that developer was me. I receive
> > about 50% of my support requests via e-mail. That's not much and
> > the total traffic would be much lower than leaf-user's. However,
> > I don't want t
On Sunday 09 February 2003 01:49 pm, Vladimir I. wrote:
> My reasons for publishing WISP-Dist were different, though.
> First is to share benefits that I get from Open Source software,
> and secondly, to help people roll out broadband access to
> Internet where it is not currently available. I agr
On Sun, 2003-02-09 at 11:55, Ray Olszewski wrote:
> At 11:03 AM 2/9/03 -0800, Mike Noyes wrote:
> >One of our project members sent me a message off-list expressing a
> >concern over leaf-user list volume. I have no idea how many of our users
> >are affected by the volume on leaf-user. Any enlighten
Hello Mike
Michael just expressed my thoughts :)
> Also, without a generic list, leaf-dachstein questions, for example,
> will lose out on bering, et al. subscribers' opinions.
I also don't see so much of a problem in the number of mails,
If I have time I read most of them, if I have only less
Ray Olszewski wrote:
>
> At 11:03 AM 2/9/03 -0800, Mike Noyes wrote:
> >On Sun, 2003-02-09 at 10:39, Ray Olszewski wrote:
> > > It would be easier to develop an (informed) opinion on this if we (or at
> > > least I) knew a bit more about what causes you to bring it up as a
> > concern.
> > > Ther
"Vladimir I." wrote:
>
> Mike Noyes wrote about "Re: Light a candle, curse the glare (was: Re: [leaf-devel]
>ML volume)":
>
> > Ray,
> > One of our project members sent me a message off-list expressing a
> > concern over leaf-user list volume. I have no idea how many of our users
>
> No need t
> How hard is it to subscribe to the list, ask questions, get the problem
> resolved and un-subscribe?
I'd like to see consistant feedback from existing users, not only
when they experience a problem. Because of this, I don't want
them to unsubscribe. In order for that to happen, content of the
ma
At 11:03 AM 2/9/03 -0800, Mike Noyes wrote:
On Sun, 2003-02-09 at 10:39, Ray Olszewski wrote:
> It would be easier to develop an (informed) opinion on this if we (or at
> least I) knew a bit more about what causes you to bring it up as a
concern.
> There is a big difference between "some" users a
On Sunday 09 February 2003 01:29 pm, Mike Noyes wrote:
> Matt,
> This is being worked on. I need to finish my initial import of the
> glibc-2.0 tree. I can then add the package tree export to our daily.sh
> cron. Indexing will be part of this script.
In any respect, a link to the package-list/lin
Mike Noyes wrote about "Re: Light a candle, curse the glare (was: Re: [leaf-devel] ML
volume)":
> Ray,
> One of our project members sent me a message off-list expressing a
> concern over leaf-user list volume. I have no idea how many of our users
No need to keep it secret - that developer was me
Mike Noyes wrote:
>
> On Sun, 2003-02-09 at 10:16, Lynn Avants wrote:
> > On Sunday 09 February 2003 11:45 am, Mike Noyes wrote:
> >
> > > b) NNTP support (news.gmane.org and/or nntp.sourceforge.net)
> >
> > I like NNTP, but it doesn't necessarily address the volume problem at all.
>
> Lynn,
On Sunday 09 February 2003 01:23 pm, Mike Noyes wrote:
> On Sun, 2003-02-09 at 10:16, Lynn Avants wrote:
> > On Sunday 09 February 2003 11:45 am, Mike Noyes wrote:
> > > b) NNTP support (news.gmane.org and/or nntp.sourceforge.net)
> >
> > I like NNTP, but it doesn't necessarily address the volu
On Sun, 2003-02-09 at 11:16, Vladimir I. wrote:
> Mike Noyes wrote about "Re: [leaf-devel] ML volume":
> > If we decide to create release/branch specific lists, I will create one
> > for each of our releases/branches. It's the only fair thing to do.
>
> Mike, depends on how you view it. If we trea
On Sun, 2003-02-09 at 11:12, Matt Schalit wrote:
> Charles Steinkuehler wrote:
>
> > Also, I see room for multiple versions of similar packages, and even
> > different versions of the same package.
>
>
> Hi, I split this off into a new thread just to quickly talk
> about something that's been
On Sun, 2003-02-09 at 10:16, Lynn Avants wrote:
> On Sunday 09 February 2003 11:45 am, Mike Noyes wrote:
>
> > b) NNTP support (news.gmane.org and/or nntp.sourceforge.net)
>
> I like NNTP, but it doesn't necessarily address the volume problem at all.
Lynn,
Correct. It just provides another w
Mike Noyes wrote about "Re: [leaf-devel] ML volume":
> Vladimir,
> If we decide to create release/branch specific lists, I will create one
> for each of our releases/branches. It's the only fair thing to do.
Mike, depends on how you view it. If we treat mailing lists as
some kind of benefits to t
Charles Steinkuehler wrote:
> Also, I see room for multiple versions of similar packages, and even
> different versions of the same package.
Hi, I split this off into a new thread just to quickly talk
about something that's been on my mind for a bit.
*Global Package Repository*
I'll be reall
On Sun, 2003-02-09 at 10:55, Matt Schalit wrote:
> f) phpBB 2.04, http://www.phpbb.com/
> This is a web based forum system. A working example group that
> uses phpBB is http://forums.etree.org/
Matt,
Thanks for adding this option. However, we wont be able to implement it
until php
On Sun, 2003-02-09 at 10:39, Ray Olszewski wrote:
> It would be easier to develop an (informed) opinion on this if we (or at
> least I) knew a bit more about what causes you to bring it up as a concern.
> There is a big difference between "some" users and "many" users, since
> "some" people will
Mike Noyes wrote:
a) Keep things as they are.
b) NNTP support (news.gmane.org and/or nntp.sourceforge.net)
c) Web support (SF forums for each LEAF release/branch) (note: we
already use SF support trackers)
d) New LEAF release/branch specific MLs.
leaf-bering
On Sun, 2003-02-09 at 10:27, Vladimir I. wrote:
> Michael D. Schleif wrote about "Re: [leaf-devel] ML volume":
>
> > Add to d) leaf-general, or some such. If this is divvied up to fine,
> > then how will the generalists lend support?
>
> I have a feeling that nobody will subscribe to it.
>
> IM
Mike --
It would be easier to develop an (informed) opinion on this if we (or at
least I) knew a bit more about what causes you to bring it up as a concern.
There is a big difference between "some" users and "many" users, since
"some" people will be dissatisfied with any approach. (Consider, fo
On Sun, 2003-02-09 at 10:19, Michael D. Schleif wrote:
> Mike Noyes wrote:
> > On Sun, 2003-02-09 at 09:45, Mike Noyes wrote:
> > > d) New LEAF release/branch specific MLs.
> > > leaf-bering
> > > leaf-dachstein
> > > leaf-lince
> > > leaf-oxygen
> > > le
Michael D. Schleif wrote about "Re: [leaf-devel] ML volume":
> Add to d) leaf-general, or some such. If this is divvied up to fine,
> then how will the generalists lend support?
I have a feeling that nobody will subscribe to it.
IMHO you need to make lists for branches which have big
difference
Mike Noyes wrote:
>
> On Sun, 2003-02-09 at 09:45, Mike Noyes wrote:
> > Everyone,
> > It has come to my attention that our leaf-user list volume is
> > discouraging some/many users from using it. We have a variety of options
> > to address this issue.
> >
> > a) Keep things as they are.
> >
On Sunday 09 February 2003 11:45 am, Mike Noyes wrote:
> b) NNTP support (news.gmane.org and/or nntp.sourceforge.net)
I like NNTP, but it doesn't necessarily address the volume problem at all.
> d) New LEAF release/branch specific MLs.
> leaf-bering
> leaf-dachstein
>
On Sun, 2003-02-09 at 09:45, Mike Noyes wrote:
> Everyone,
> It has come to my attention that our leaf-user list volume is
> discouraging some/many users from using it. We have a variety of options
> to address this issue.
>
> a) Keep things as they are.
>
> b) NNTP support (news.gman
Mike Noyes wrote about "[leaf-devel] ML volume":
> Everyone,
> It has come to my attention that our leaf-user list volume is
> discouraging some/many users from using it. We have a variety of options
> to address this issue.
I'd vote for separate mailing lists, at least for WISP-Dist.
Apart fro
Everyone,
It has come to my attention that our leaf-user list volume is
discouraging some/many users from using it. We have a variety of options
to address this issue.
a) Keep things as they are.
b) NNTP support (news.gmane.org and/or nntp.sourceforge.net)
c) Web support (SF
On Sun, 2003-02-09 at 05:58, Eric Wolzak wrote:
> Hello Chad, I really think we were miscommunicating,( we have different background
> ;) ) but I'll try again > >
>
>Packages
> Packages own templates of their configuration files or scripts to generate those
> packages ( even better)
> Pac
Hello Chad, I really think we were miscommunicating,( we have different background
;) ) but I'll try again > >
Packages
Packages own templates of their configuration files or scripts to generate those
packages ( even better)
Packages own several variables ( necessary to configurate the packag
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