[leaf-devel] Re: floppy vs flash drive

2006-03-21 Thread Paul G Rogers
>>lost major mindshare because their software was too difficult for >>folks to install. As dedicated hackers, we looked at ourselves and >>said: "WTF?" Then Mandrake and later Fedora came along and we saw >>how installs should work. Even eye candy can be important. :-( >I don't d

RE: [leaf-devel] Re: floppy vs flash drive

2006-03-21 Thread Jorn Eriksen
d out. Anyhowe I guess we should update: http://leaf.sourceforge.net/doc/guide/buci-ide.html with the information above - similar to the 14.5 section. Best regards Jørn -Original Message- From: Eric Spakman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 21. mars 2006 22:09 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: leaf

Re: [leaf-devel] Re: floppy vs flash drive

2006-03-21 Thread Mike Noyes
On Tue, 2006-03-21 at 13:32, Martin Hejl wrote: > >>So, to me the question is more along the lines of "is there somebody who > >>is willing to work on making booting off something other than floppy and > >>CDRom easier?" So far, the answer to that has been "no" (and there's > >>only so much 5 or so

Re: [leaf-devel] Re: floppy vs flash drive

2006-03-21 Thread Martin Hejl
Martin Hejl wrote: > And as of then, I'll probably > either be busy fighting off Spam from our lists or working on Bering > uClibc 3.3 duh - obviously, that should have been "Bering uClibc 3.0". Sorry about any confusion that might have caused. Martin ---

Re: [leaf-devel] Re: floppy vs flash drive

2006-03-21 Thread Martin Hejl
Hi Mike, >>So, to me the question is more along the lines of "is there somebody who >>is willing to work on making booting off something other than floppy and >>CDRom easier?" So far, the answer to that has been "no" (and there's >>only so much 5 or so people can do in their spare time). > > > M

Re: [leaf-devel] Re: floppy vs flash drive

2006-03-21 Thread Martin Hejl
Hi Jorn, > Now - I frequently read about the term "end-user" and I started to wonder. > Who is the targeted end-user? Is it the DIY guy that really do not know > much about linux but just want to have a firewall, or is it the more > experienced user who want a good utility box with a lot of feat

RE: [leaf-devel] Re: floppy vs flash drive

2006-03-21 Thread Eric Spakman
Hello Jorn, >>> So, to me the question is more along the lines of "is there somebody >>> who is willing to work on making booting off something other than >>> floppy and DRom easier?" So far, the answer to that has been "no" (and >>> there's only so much 5 or so people can do in their spare time).

RE: [leaf-devel] Re: floppy vs flash drive

2006-03-21 Thread Jorn Eriksen
p builder that would make things easier. I could maintain such a list if created one. Best regards Jørn -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Martin Hejl Sent: 21. mars 2006 20:13 To: leaf-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [leaf-devel] Re: f

Re: [leaf-devel] Re: floppy vs flash drive

2006-03-21 Thread Mike Noyes
On Tue, 2006-03-21 at 11:12, Martin Hejl wrote: > So, to me the question is more along the lines of "is there somebody who > is willing to work on making booting off something other than floppy and > CDRom easier?" So far, the answer to that has been "no" (and there's > only so much 5 or so people

Re: [leaf-devel] Re: floppy vs flash drive

2006-03-21 Thread Martin Hejl
Hi Paul, I'm not responding to create a big discussion about the issues you raise (partly because I don't disagree with most of what you wrote) - but since I've participated in the discussion so far, I want to respond so I it doesn't seem like I'm quiet simply because you raise points that you don

Re: [leaf-devel] Re: floppy vs flash drive

2006-03-21 Thread Paul Traina
I think the question is, should the PRIMARY b-u distribution be geared towards a floppy release, or something more modern. If people with floppy only hardware want to maintain a stripped down floppy only version, that's great, but do we really want the fate of B-U tied to such limitations? F

Re: [leaf-devel] Re: floppy vs flash drive

2006-03-20 Thread Ron Senykoff
> >usb-hdd boot has been around for approximately three years now. The> >price of flash drives isn't an issue anymore. Thus, I sincerely think> >it's time for us to consider moving from 3.5 floppies to usb-hdd flash > >drives.As somebody who has used various flavors of LRP for a while now (used to

Re: [leaf-devel] Re: floppy vs flash drive

2006-03-15 Thread Mike Noyes
On Wed, 2006-03-15 at 17:43, Paul G Rogers wrote: > >usb-hdd boot has been around for approximately three years now. The > >price of flash drives isn't an issue anymore. Thus, I sincerely think > >it's time for us to consider moving from 3.5 floppies to usb-hdd flash > >drives. > > I'd really hat

[leaf-devel] Re: floppy vs flash drive

2006-03-15 Thread Paul G Rogers
>usb-hdd boot has been around for approximately three years now. The >price of flash drives isn't an issue anymore. Thus, I sincerely think >it's time for us to consider moving from 3.5 floppies to usb-hdd flash >drives. I'd really hate to see that. Firewall service is a great use for obsolete h