Re: [Leaf-devel] Anonymous FTP

2000-11-04 Thread Mike Noyes
At 01:47 PM 11/4/00 -0800, Ray Olszewski wrote: >I'm sorry, Mike, but my tests do not confirm what you say. > >If I connect to the HTTP site named below, I cannot test because it lists >no files with the extension .img or .ima . The two images I name below >appear here to have been re-suffixed a

Re: [Leaf-devel] Anonymous FTP

2000-11-04 Thread Ray Olszewski
I'm sorry, Mike, but my tests do not confirm what you say. If I connect to the HTTP site named below, I cannot test because it lists no files with the extension .img or .ima . The two images I name below appear here to have been re-suffixed as .bin . As .bin files, they do download properly as bi

Re: [Leaf-devel] Anonymous FTP

2000-11-04 Thread Mike Noyes
At 01:55 PM 11/3/00 -0800, Ray Olszewski wrote: >Discussions of theory are nice, but they need to be grounded in the facts. >Here are some facts. > >At 12:02 PM 11/3/00 -0800, Mike Noyes wrote: > > >High-capacity File Server > >http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=13751 > >ftp://

Re: [Leaf-devel] Anonymous FTP

2000-11-03 Thread Mike Noyes
At 01:55 PM 11/3/00 -0800, Ray Olszewski wrote: >Discussions of theory are nice, but they need to be grounded in the facts. >Here are some facts. > >At 12:02 PM 11/3/00 -0800, Mike Noyes wrote: > > >High-capacity File Server > >http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=13751 > >ftp://

Re: [Leaf-devel] Anonymous FTP

2000-11-03 Thread Ray Olszewski
Discussions of theory are nice, but they need to be grounded in the facts. Here are some facts. At 12:02 PM 11/3/00 -0800, Mike Noyes wrote: >High-capacity File Server >http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=13751 >ftp://download.sourceforge.net/pub/sourceforge/leaf/ I can connec

Re: [Leaf-devel] Anonymous FTP

2000-11-03 Thread Ray Olszewski
At 01:16 PM 11/3/00 -0600, David Douthitt wrote: ... >Unless I'm mistaken, the FTP protocol has nothing whatsoever to do >with mime-types, et al - only "ascii" or "bin" - and this only to do >carriage-return conversions. > >Mime-types, I believe, are only present in HTTP downloads, which is >wh

Re: [Leaf-devel] Anonymous FTP

2000-11-03 Thread Mike Sensney
What IE does is documented. You just have to dig a little to find it. http://msdn.microsoft.com/workshop/networking/moniker/overview/appendix_a.asp At 10:55 AM 11/03/2000 -0800, Ray Olszewski wrote: >Netscape trusts the accuracy the mime type reported by the Web server. >Period. If it is wrong,

Re: [Leaf-devel] Anonymous FTP

2000-11-03 Thread Mike Noyes
At 01:16 PM 11/3/00 -0600, David Douthitt wrote: >On 3 Nov 2000, at 10:55, Ray Olszewski wrote: > > > At 01:16 PM 11/3/00 -0500, Rick Onanian wrote: > > > >However, it would be important to know how web browsers choose > > >binary or ASCII for FTPing. I would guess that they do it > > >based on th

Re: [Leaf-devel] Anonymous FTP

2000-11-03 Thread Rick Onanian
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > no, they trust the server's mime.types config file. > > the web admin, should add the 'img' extension/string to the > 'application/octet-stream' entry on the mime.types Please, people, while in this discussion, keep in mind that we're talking about FTP, not HTTP. Look

Re: [Leaf-devel] Anonymous FTP

2000-11-03 Thread David Douthitt
On 3 Nov 2000, at 10:55, Ray Olszewski wrote: > At 01:16 PM 11/3/00 -0500, Rick Onanian wrote: > >However, it would be important to know how web browsers choose > >binary or ASCII for FTPing. I would guess that they do it > >based on their own mime-type list. > > This has been discussed again a

Re: [Leaf-devel] Anonymous FTP

2000-11-03 Thread Mike Noyes
It looks like this conversation may be moot. I just ran into a limitation of the Anonymous FTP directory. Apparently, you can't chown a directory once created, and only the person that creates the dir has write privileges. I deleted the eigerstein and oxygen directories I created. David and Ch

RE: [Leaf-devel] Anonymous FTP

2000-11-03 Thread PBarreto
> -Original Message- > From: Rick Onanian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, November 03, 2000 6:16 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [Leaf-devel] Anonymous FTP > > > Ray Olszewski wrote: > > >Until proven otherwise, I would assume the

Re: [Leaf-devel] Anonymous FTP

2000-11-03 Thread Rick Onanian
Ray Olszewski wrote: > >However, it would be important to know how web browsers choose > >binary or ASCII for FTPing. I would guess that they do it > >based on their own mime-type list. > > This has been discussed again and again back on the LRP list. Neither of the > major browsers does what you

Re: [Leaf-devel] Anonymous FTP

2000-11-03 Thread David Douthitt
On 3 Nov 2000, at 10:19, Ray Olszewski wrote: > At 11:52 AM 11/3/00 -0600, David Douthitt wrote: > >Another question: if I take module X from system X with kernel A, and > >move module X to system Z with kernel A (same version kernel), is > >this going to work assuming that system X and system

Re: [Leaf-devel] Anonymous FTP

2000-11-03 Thread Mike Noyes
At 01:31 PM 11/3/00 -0500, Rick Onanian wrote: >Can we please have Reply-to munging on? I just sent this to the LRP >list...force of habit, automatic pilot, absent-mindedness, whatever... Done. I may change it back though. It depends on possible solutions to the member_posting_only=yes problem.

Re: [Leaf-devel] Anonymous FTP

2000-11-03 Thread Ray Olszewski
At 01:16 PM 11/3/00 -0500, Rick Onanian wrote: ... > >Web browsers are not good FTP clients. True. But when you offer the ftp site from a Web-based link, you have to anticipate that they will often be used to access the ftp site and take account of their limitations. Whether you like them or not

Re: [Leaf-devel] Anonymous FTP

2000-11-03 Thread Rick Onanian
Can we please have Reply-to munging on? I just sent this to the LRP list...force of habit, automatic pilot, absent-mindedness, whatever... Ray Olszewski wrote: > Just to be clear, Rick ... my experience compiling kernels (pretty much > limited to 2.0.36, 2.2.13, and 2.2.17 ... but I can't imagin

Re: [Leaf-devel] Anonymous FTP

2000-11-03 Thread Mike Noyes
At 10:25 AM 11/3/00 -0800, Ray Olszewski wrote: >At 09:53 AM 11/3/00 -0800, Mike Noyes wrote: >... > > > >Until proven otherwise, I would assume the default ftp download would > >be binary. This may bite me later. > >It's already "bit" us, I think. > >Isn't my report from yesterday a valid counter

Re: [Leaf-devel] Anonymous FTP

2000-11-03 Thread Rick Onanian
Ray Olszewski wrote: > >Until proven otherwise, I would assume the default ftp download would be > >binary. This may bite me later. > > It's already "bit" us, I think. > > Isn't my report from yesterday a valid counter-example to your assumption? > Surely Sourceforge didn't *explicitly* make the

Re: [Leaf-devel] Anonymous FTP

2000-11-03 Thread Ray Olszewski
At 01:04 PM 11/3/00 -0500, Rick Onanian wrote: ... >Kernel modules are more flexible than we give them credit for. > >If you compile 2.2.16 kernels on five machines, each with their >own configurations and each compiling different modules, then >the modules compiled on one are very likely to work

Re: [Leaf-devel] Anonymous FTP

2000-11-03 Thread Ray Olszewski
At 09:53 AM 11/3/00 -0800, Mike Noyes wrote: ... > >Until proven otherwise, I would assume the default ftp download would be >binary. This may bite me later. It's already "bit" us, I think. Isn't my report from yesterday a valid counter-example to your assumption? Surely Sourceforge didn't *exp

Re: [Leaf-devel] Anonymous FTP

2000-11-03 Thread Rick Onanian
David Douthitt wrote: > Another question: if I take module X from system X with kernel A, and > move module X to system Z with kernel A (same version kernel), is > this going to work assuming that system X and system Z are binary- > compatible? Kernel modules are more flexible than we give them c

Re: [Leaf-devel] Anonymous FTP

2000-11-03 Thread Ray Olszewski
At 11:52 AM 11/3/00 -0600, David Douthitt wrote: >On 3 Nov 2000, at 9:27, Ray Olszewski wrote: > >> Or possibly the modules should just be in with the kernel, all in a >> single tarball ... > >This is the way the LRP kernels were bundled; despite the large size, >I appreciated it since all the m

Re: [Leaf-devel] Anonymous FTP

2000-11-03 Thread Mike Noyes
At 09:27 AM 11/3/00 -0800, Ray Olszewski wrote: >At 08:51 AM 11/3/00 -0800, Mike Noyes wrote: > >At 07:59 AM 11/3/00 -0800, Mike Noyes wrote: > >>I just created Anonymous FTP directories for eigerstein and oxygen. > >> > >>ftp://leaf.sourceforge.net/pub/leaf/ > > > >Should we create kernel and mod

Re: [Leaf-devel] Anonymous FTP

2000-11-03 Thread David Douthitt
On 3 Nov 2000, at 9:27, Ray Olszewski wrote: > Or possibly the modules should just be in with the kernel, all in a > single tarball ... This is the way the LRP kernels were bundled; despite the large size, I appreciated it since all the modules were included with the Linux kernel - no mistaki

Re: [Leaf-devel] Anonymous FTP

2000-11-03 Thread Ray Olszewski
At 08:51 AM 11/3/00 -0800, Mike Noyes wrote: >At 07:59 AM 11/3/00 -0800, Mike Noyes wrote: >>I just created Anonymous FTP directories for eigerstein and oxygen. >> >>ftp://leaf.sourceforge.net/pub/leaf/ > >Should we create kernel and module directories in the Anonymous FTP area? It might be bette

Re: [Leaf-devel] Anonymous FTP

2000-11-03 Thread Mike Noyes
At 07:59 AM 11/3/00 -0800, Mike Noyes wrote: >I just created Anonymous FTP directories for eigerstein and oxygen. > >ftp://leaf.sourceforge.net/pub/leaf/ Should we create kernel and module directories in the Anonymous FTP area? -- Mike Noyes [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://sourceforge.net/projects/leaf