Re: [LU] NON LU Guiseley

2011-12-19 Thread Mark Smith
Where I grew up.. but the Wells were always full of beer bottles, cans and fish and chip wrapping newspaper! -Original Message- From: leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of Damian Walsh Sent: Monday, December 19, 2011 11:26 AM To: leedslist Subjec

Re: [LU] Reading

2011-12-19 Thread David Bromley
- Original Message - From: "McWilliams, Brendan,VF-Group (bmcwill)" To: "list leedslist" Snip " where is Forsell... " Snip For what it's worth I was travelling on a train in Germany on Saturday and someone who claims to know a relation of his said his knees have gone.

Re: [LU] Pugh / White

2011-12-19 Thread Mark Humphries
And my reply about the bad form coinciding with Becchio's recall was to illustrate that the only reason Becchio got a starting place was because the goals and contribution dried up from McCormack. But everything will be fine, we are going through a dip in form, we have no players on a purple patch

Re: [LU] Reading

2011-12-19 Thread Damian Walsh
Listen up good you lot - especially you Rich. January is just round the corner - can we start talking about our ex-Barca, Argentinian Wunderkind in terms that any Premiership lurkers would understand please. You can wish him well when he's gone ;) Damian Le 19 déc. 2011 12:35, "McWilliams, Brenda

Re: [LU] NON LU Guiseley

2011-12-19 Thread Damian Walsh
Should nt that be eBST? Damian Le 19 déc. 2011 12:44, "John Boocock IFA" < john.booc...@internetfootball.org.uk> a écrit : > http://vimeo.com/14263428 > > for any expats dreaming of the home of Harry Ramsdens (still not the ebst > in my book) > > Betty > __**__

Re: [LU] The secret of Bates longevity revealed.

2011-12-19 Thread Matt Anderson
Interesting given today's comments, west ham fans on talksport moaning about fat sam and his tactics. Bates, Grayson, tactics, Becchio, defence aside I still think we are just a medium rated shit club in a shit league. I watched the goals on the BBC site and they didn't portray us as that bad an

Re: [LU] The secret of Bates longevity revealed.

2011-12-19 Thread Wayne
God won't take him, the devil doesn't want him... Bates, like thatcher will be around forever :( -- Regards Wayne Paul Cundell wrote: Ian asked > What would happen if our own dear leader received his marching orders? Then Dipsy, LaLa and Po would make the frame I guess _

[LU] Why o Why?

2011-12-19 Thread Richard Naef
Can anyone xplain to me why Bates would be happy for us to be in the situation we are in? Surely the Bates materplan must be to sell the club for a large profit. Why would he bother spending money on the ground and facilities since that is unlikely to bring in a multibillionaire as much as succes

Re: [LU] Reading

2011-12-19 Thread Nicholas Armit
Do any players at any clubs really care about the club anymore? From: Eric B To: DAVID NATTAN Cc: list leedslist Sent: Monday, December 19, 2011 5:03 AM Subject: Re: [LU] Reading yeah, I too get the impression we are a "ghost club". We have got an owner th

Re: [LU] Why I love this list #2554

2011-12-19 Thread John Boocock IFA
On 19/12/2011 15:28, Dr. Michael Benjamin. wrote: when my Brother ( Gerald ) phoned at ten thirty we were somber. He phoned half an hour later and I said ' don't tell me shes come back to life?' His reply was ' no I am sitting on the lid'. Todays posting of the week :-) Safe journey Michael

Re: [LU] Reading

2011-12-19 Thread John Boocock IFA
I went to this match as a guest of an old pal, he pays out a fortune for the use of a box and he told me that it had become a complete waste of time and money. I have just spoken to him on the phone (to thank him for his kind hospitality) We discussed some of the issues mentioned here about

Re: [LU] The secret of Bates longevity revealed.

2011-12-19 Thread Dr. Michael Benjamin.
Dsylectia is graet. Sent from my iPhone. D"r Michael Benjamin. Community Psychiatrist. On 19 Dec 2011, at 17:25, "Richard Naef" wrote: > >>> Denis Nielsen. Whose he? > > yeah sorry got my mass murderers mixed up, I thought it was Denis Nilsen, > but was actually the marginally less horr

[LU] Why I love this list #2554

2011-12-19 Thread Dr. Michael Benjamin.
Sat in Tel Aviv departure lounge back to Leeds for my Mothers funeral tomorrow. Got a dose of the trots. Ten days ago I was in Leeds to put her in an old age home and buggered my eye. ( Long boring story that ends reasonably well ) My girls joint team got fucked up by morons ( back on track as d

Re: [LU] The secret of Bates longevity revealed.

2011-12-19 Thread Richard Naef
>>Denis Nielsen. Whose he? yeah sorry got my mass murderers mixed up, I thought it was Denis Nilsen, but was actually the marginally less horrific Donald Neilson who kicked the proverbial. So it looks as if Ken is back outside the playoffs again. Funnily enough My Granddad got in trouble in 19

Re: [LU] The secret of Bates longevity revealed.

2011-12-19 Thread Richard Naef
> >Laughed at that, good work Rich. What would happen if our own dear >leader received his marching orders? Rumours are that his youngest son Ken Bates-un would take over... However I'm of the persuasion that a bit like the soviet leadership in the 70's & 80's there are actually a few looky-likie

Re: [LU] Reasons why we won't go up this season

2011-12-19 Thread Matt Anderson
I know some people have bought players and west ham are an oddity having premier league players but most teams are picking up freebies it’s the way of the market now. Bolton under fat sam were experts at it, There was definitely an element of being outbid and blaming greedy players and agent

Re: [LU] Reading

2011-12-19 Thread Richard Walker
Viaduct ShowBar - FFS ! From: Richard Naef To: 'list leedslist' Sent: Monday, 19 December 2011, 14:02 Subject: Re: [LU] Reading Have to agree with everything said here about how dismal the match was. My first visit to elland rd for years the lack of passion on the pitch and in the JC stand w

Re: [LU] Pugh / White

2011-12-19 Thread Richard Walker
Hang on a minute - I didn't say it was all Becchio's fault , nobody played well. Alls I'm saying is that he's been bad for a while .. in fact bad most of the time IMO but people are only just registering this fact.   Macca was bad - I gave him 0 out of 10 and I actualyl don't think he's got eno

Re: [LU] The secret of Bates longevity revealed.

2011-12-19 Thread Paul Cundell
Ian asked > What would happen if our own dear leader received his marching orders? Then Dipsy, LaLa and Po would make the frame I guess ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscrib

Re: [LU] The secret of Bates longevity revealed.

2011-12-19 Thread Ian Murray
Laughed at that, good work Rich. What would happen if our own dear leader received his marching orders? Sent from my iPhone On 19 Dec 2011, at 14:32, "Richard Naef" wrote: >> >> http://www.bmj.com/rapid-response/2011/12/19/re-how-fast-does-grim- >> reaper-walk-receiver-operating-characterist

Re: [LU] The secret of Bates longevity revealed.

2011-12-19 Thread Richard Naef
> >http://www.bmj.com/rapid-response/2011/12/19/re-how-fast-does-grim- >reaper-walk-receiver-operating-characteristics-curve with the great news that Kim jong-Il and Denis Neilsen have both received their marching orders today and along with the passing away of Bin laden and Quaddafi in the last

Re: [LU] Reasons why we won't go up this season

2011-12-19 Thread Dr. Michael Benjamin.
I had trouble with my eyes. Sent from my iPhone. D"r Michael Benjamin. Community Psychiatrist. On 19 Dec 2011, at 15:15, sinisterpicturesDB wrote: > Ten minutes of football in the second division? You lucky, lucky barsteward > you! > > On 19 Dec 2011, at 13:01, Dr Michael Benjamin wrote

[LU] The secret of Bates longevity revealed.

2011-12-19 Thread Chris Briggs
http://www.bmj.com/rapid-response/2011/12/19/re-how-fast-does-grim-reaper-walk-receiver-operating-characteristics-curve Sent from my iPad ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscr

Re: [LU] Reasons why we won't go up this season

2011-12-19 Thread Chris Briggs
I was agreeing with you yer daft pillock :o) On 19 Dec 2011, at 14:00, "Eric B" wrote: > "In this case the stories about Grayson and the impact on the team > appear to be light on fact and very heavy on rumour/conjecture." > > That was my point. Every man and his dog can make an assumption ba

Re: [LU] Reading

2011-12-19 Thread Richard Naef
Have to agree with everything said here about how dismal the match was. My first visit to elland rd for years the lack of passion on the pitch and in the JC stand was depressing. Don't think I'll bother for a while again, away games are much more fun. Becchio was pretty ineffective, but compared

Re: [LU] Reasons why we won't go up this season

2011-12-19 Thread Eric B
"In this case the stories about Grayson and the impact on the team appear to be light on fact and very heavy on rumour/conjecture." That was my point. Every man and his dog can make an assumption based on NOTHING and start a "debate". If someone is keen on that then go out and buy Hello magazine.

Re: [LU] Reasons why we won't go up this season

2011-12-19 Thread Chris Briggs
Now then children, please be quiet or the nasty man will make you sit on the naughty step. Debate 'hygiene' ? Give over, all debates are based upon assumptions. You are assuming that your point is most valid when you make it. You assume that everyone will see it from your perspective, etc. Wel

Re: [LU] Pugh / White

2011-12-19 Thread Paul Cundell
McCormack was on the pitch for over an hour and did sweet f.a. but it's all Becchios fault?!?!? Get a grip Rich > As for Becchio - even the WACCOEs who I blame for the Berbatov song seem to > be losing faith. Questions over his fitness and hunger - nothing to do whith that > I would suggest just p

[LU] Pugh / White

2011-12-19 Thread Richard Walker
Pugh played at left midfield and White at left back. This gave us more stability and enabled White to bomb forward at every opporunity   What a joke ! I think we can put this to bed now can't we !   As for Becchio - even the WACCOEs who I blame for the Berbatov song seem to be losing faith. Ques

Re: [LU] Reasons why we won't go up this season

2011-12-19 Thread Joe Skinner
They haven't (off the top of my head) had any significant sales, other than dropping from the Prem league ones (Parker) or selling Oxlaide Chamberlain (sp). We have and have not re-invested even a fraction of that money. We have got in a host of freebies and loanees which smacks (to me) of make

Re: [LU] Reasons why we won't go up this season

2011-12-19 Thread sinisterpicturesDB
Ten minutes of football in the second division? You lucky, lucky barsteward you! On 19 Dec 2011, at 13:01, Dr Michael Benjamin wrote: > Err Matt > WE are shite at the Speed memorial there was ten minutes of football. > > ___ Leedslist mailing list In

Re: [LU] Reasons why we won't go up this season

2011-12-19 Thread Matt Anderson
Don’t agree. Look at Southampton. Quite well off but no outrageous spending. They only outrageous spending has been by Leicester and west Ham on some players wages. Neither are that much better or worse off than us. None of last years promoted teams spent fortunes either. I think Grayson is

Re: [LU] Reasons why we won't go up this season

2011-12-19 Thread Dr Michael Benjamin
Err Matt WE are shite at the Speed memorial there was ten minutes of football. Dr Michael Benjamin, Community Psychiatrist --- myRay: On-line Self-Help CBT http://www.myRay.com -- Mental Health: http//www.MyDoctorExplains.com ---

Re: [LU] Reasons why we won't go up this season

2011-12-19 Thread Ian Murray
You're right it's probably been a distraction for Grayson. However, that does not mean he's not the right man for the job. People sleep with people they shouldn't all the time. It's life! The real reason we aren't ten points clear at the top is not the manager. It is because the chairman spend

Re: [LU] Reasons why we won't go up this season

2011-12-19 Thread Matt Anderson
What we know is he sh*gged someone from the club, the newspaper hint was that it was a Thorp Arch employee and Mrs Grayson kicked him out. Rumours suggested the woman was more linked to the team However defeats to Barnsley and Reading mirror pre sh*gging crap Its possible Grayson has been distr

Re: [LU] Reasons why we won't go up this season

2011-12-19 Thread Dr Michael Benjamin
But we do know Eric We don't know who. IMO it is bad enough with just that. Dr Michael Benjamin, Community Psychiatrist --- myRay: On-line Self-Help CBT http://www.myRay.com -- Mental Health: http//www.MyDoctorExplains.com --

Re: [LU] Reasons why we won't go up this season

2011-12-19 Thread Eric B
Well if you dont KNOW and/or you cant prove it then dont come out firing all guns saying him shagging someone has impacted the team. Assumptions are not good foundations for a serious debate. its basic debate "hygiene" mate. On Mon, Dec 19, 2011 at 12:14 PM, Dr Michael Benjamin wrote: > No > Don

Re: [LU] Reasons why we won't go up this season

2011-12-19 Thread Dr Michael Benjamin
No Don't want to either None of my business -- details why. What I have is enough to say what I said. No point in repeating myself. Michael Dr Michael Benjamin, Community Psychiatrist --- myRay: On-line Self-Help CBT http://www.myRay.com --

Re: [LU] Reasons why we won't go up this season

2011-12-19 Thread Eric B
hi mate you said: "Firstly you don't know." So do you KNOW then? cause if you dont you re in the same boat as us and refuting our question is a tad rich. if you do know I am all ears. come on then. Eric On Mon, Dec 19, 2011 at 11:51 AM, Dr Michael Benjamin wrote: > Firstly you don't know. > Th

Re: [LU] Reasons why we won't go up this season

2011-12-19 Thread Dr Michael Benjamin
And I seriously disagree with you. It's more about style and leadership. Don't forget you're dealing with young easily influenced young men who you are trying to forge into a team with team spirit. Dr Michael Benjamin, Community Psychiatrist --- myRay: On-line Self-Help

Re: [LU] Reasons why we won't go up this season

2011-12-19 Thread Dr Michael Benjamin
Firstly you don't know. The business with O'Brian is bloody weird. But let's leave that alone. I do think that when a boss starts fucking around and every one knows both parties there is trouble. He is an authority figure & hopefully a role model. The wilder ones will get wilder & the more puritan

Re: [LU] Reasons why we won't go up this season

2011-12-19 Thread Eric B
agree Matt. So at this point we need to get some evidence of 1. it did happen 2. who he "swept" off her feet to use a traduction of the italian term for shagging "scupare" I seriously doubt it would lead to less team morale. On Mon, Dec 19, 2011 at 11:15 AM, Matt Anderson wrote: > That was the

[LU] NON LU Guiseley

2011-12-19 Thread John Boocock IFA
http://vimeo.com/14263428 for any expats dreaming of the home of Harry Ramsdens (still not the ebst in my book) Betty ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email leedsli

Re: [LU] Reading

2011-12-19 Thread McWilliams, Brendan, VF-Group (bmcwill)
SG is surely on very thin ice and I reckon Dave Jones should be keeping himself free in the next few months if he wants another crack at a big club. Whilst there's no money, no-one else has any money either - but all the loan picks were his: O'D who is poor to say the least, AK who doesn't sco

Re: [LU] Reading

2011-12-19 Thread Matt Anderson
This can't be right, we have a manager and have had several players in recent times that are Leeds fans. I don’t believe they don’t care and I don’t believe many of them who are at the biggest club of their career don’t care, the only way is down for most of them. I do wonder if Grayson has reach

Re: [LU] Reasons why we won't go up this season

2011-12-19 Thread Matt Anderson
That was the inference with people putting 2 and 2 together but that’s only a rumour and I'm not aware that anyone has actually got any evidence. -Original Message- From: leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of Eric B Sent: 19 December 2011 11:08

Re: [LU] Reasons why we won't go up this season

2011-12-19 Thread Eric B
so you think the boss shagging a woman has been influential in this? remind me who he shagged? As far as I know it was not someone that is not linked to any of the players. why would they then care? I would understand there would be uproard if he shagged someone linked to one of his players. sure

Re: [LU] Reading

2011-12-19 Thread Eric B
yeah, I too get the impression we are a "ghost club". We have got an owner that use to own chelsea FFS. Given the past between those two clubs I find it hard to accept. We ve got hardly any of the players that actually care about the club, I suspect theres a couple though but hardly many enough. w

Re: [LU] Reading

2011-12-19 Thread DAVID NATTAN
To me , and I suspect 99% of those who go to games, the paragraph from RIch (below) sums it all up.Yes we are in a poor Division (one that should be easy(ish) to get out of for a team of our stature) Yes we are in a play off position. Yes there are other teams just as bad or worse than us BUT th

Re: [LU] Reasons why we won't go up this season

2011-12-19 Thread Alec McQueen
OK, let's get positive. You are the manager, and you can get 4 loan players in. Who should they be? On 19 December 2011 08:05, Richard Walker wrote: > Yes other teams in this league are shit but I dont care about them , I am > however concerned about us and what us happening on and off the fiel