Re: need help in identifying a 1500 (?)

2017-08-08 Thread 'joe biunno' via Legacy Ornamental Mills
ok, no time last night to get to the details of this upgrade, so here we go...the four wheel "trolleys" used here are made by unistrut, to fit their P1000 strut channel...they were $21.00 each, so no great expense there...unistrut used spring pins for axels, which made the axel hollow...that

Re: need help in identifying a 1500 (?)

2017-08-03 Thread Tim Krause
o >I'll have to "store" it for you here. >Thanks for sharing. >Mac >_ >_ > >-Original Message- >From: Tim Krause >Sent: Aug 2, 2017 4:45 PM >To: 'jo

Re: need help in identifying a 1500 (?)

2017-08-03 Thread MWF
rb...@comcast.net> Sent: Aug 2, 2017 4:45 PM To: 'joe biunno' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: need help in identifying a 1500 (?) One last thing, a photo of a brand new unassembled model1000/1500.

Re: need help in identifying a 1500 (?)

2017-08-03 Thread Richard Ellis
Tim On the 7.7.16 I did send some pics of the nut. I have lost them from PC and can't copy and paste to & from this site, so if you look back to that date you will see them Cheers Richard On Thursday, August 3, 2017 at 6:52:59 AM UTC+1, Tim wrote: > > So your woodchuck split nut is not what was

Re: need help in identifying a 1500 (?)

2017-08-02 Thread Tim
So your woodchuck split nut is not what was shown in my carriage pictures? Is that what I'm reading? Can you show us a photo? On Wednesday, August 2, 2017 at 10:44:28 PM UTC-7, Richard Ellis wrote: > > Hi > Interesting about the split nut. on my Woodchuck it is hinged, the lower > half in not

Re: need help in identifying a 1500 (?)

2017-08-02 Thread Richard Ellis
Hi Interesting about the split nut. on my Woodchuck it is hinged, the lower half in not threaded ,just bare,just there to carry the leadscrew. On the Revo ,shorter bed and leadscrew the nut is just a half that slides to closed position, no back piece . I like the idea of a sliding nut for the

Re: need help in identifying a 1500 (?)

2017-08-02 Thread Tim Krause
You're welcome, I learned something as well. ⁣Sent from BlueMail ​ On Aug 2, 2017, 3:15 PM, at 3:15 PM, 'joe biunno' via Legacy Ornamental Mills wrote: >well, that explains why the nut on my machine is not split...I would be > >curious as to why legacy

Re: need help in identifying a 1500 (?)

2017-08-02 Thread 'Finunlim' via Legacy Ornamental Mills
mental Mills <legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> Sent: Wed, Aug 2, 2017 6:14 pm Subject: Re: need help in identifying a 1500 (?) Joe, Do you have two wing nuts that connect the router base to your solid acme nut on the y axis? That also appears to be another method to allow

Re: need help in identifying a 1500 (?)

2017-08-02 Thread 'joe biunno' via Legacy Ornamental Mills
well, that explains why the nut on my machine is not split...I would be curious as to why legacy would offer it as an option when it is such a minor upgrade...include it with every machine and just up the price a few dollars...and you have also explained the different types of split nuts used

Re: need help in identifying a 1500 (?)

2017-08-02 Thread Tim Krause
Joe, Do you have two wing nuts that connect the router base to your solid acme nut on the y axis?  That also appears to be another method to allow the axis to float with the solid nut version. ⁣Sent from BlueMail ​ On Aug 2, 2017, 2:16 PM, at 2:16 PM, 'joe biunno' via Legacy Ornamental Mills

Re: need help in identifying a 1500 (?)

2017-08-02 Thread Tim Krause
New details, The model 1000 the y axis leadscrew was an option.  It came without a split nut.  It was a block of delrin tapped for the acme thread.  If you wanted to move the y axis freely you would remove one screws and that would set it free.  The split nut was yet another option that made

Re: need help in identifying a 1500 (?)

2017-08-02 Thread Tim
This is driving me a little nutty, The split nut that you show photographed was on the early model 1000/1500 machines. I've now seen this in a Legacy video. When and how they went to the modern split nut escapes me. I don't know if it was an upgrade option or simply a newer model 1000/1500

Re: need help in identifying a 1500 (?)

2017-08-02 Thread 'joe biunno' via Legacy Ornamental Mills
wow tim!...incredible photos and many thanks...here is some additional info that is now better explained, thanks to you...I do not have the "L" shaped, nylon blocks on the underside of the Y carriage, as I now see in your photos...they were replaced by a previous owner with an oak wood and ball

Re: need help in identifying a 1500 (?)

2017-08-02 Thread Tim
oops never mind. I saw it. On Wednesday, August 2, 2017 at 1:15:38 PM UTC-7, Tim wrote: > > Joe, > > Can you take a photo of the torn up split nut. I'm curious about > something. > > -Tim > > > On 8/1/2017 7:50 AM, 'joe biunno' via Legacy Ornamental Mills wrote: > > well, the legacy gods

Re: need help in identifying a 1500 (?)

2017-08-02 Thread Tim Krause
They where uhmw, and they have slotted mounting holes in the carriage. Also notice that there is no mechanism to keep the carriage held to the rails. It just lifts up. That's all I know about this subject. -Tim PS, Credit to Mike Pung for allowing me to take photos of his carriage. On

Re: need help in identifying a 1500 (?)

2017-08-02 Thread Tim Krause
Confused, that looks like a split nut like a Woodchuck version... -Tim On 8/1/2017 5:44 AM, 'joe biunno' via Legacy Ornamental Mills wrote: here is a photo of the split nut used on the lead screw...a bit odd as it hinges open and closed...certainly very difficult to replace when it becomes

Re: need help in identifying a 1500 (?)

2017-08-02 Thread Tim Krause
Joe, Can you take a photo of the torn up split nut. I'm curious about something. -Tim On 8/1/2017 7:50 AM, 'joe biunno' via Legacy Ornamental Mills wrote: well, the legacy gods smiled upon me today!...that hinged, split nut was a mess...the bracket was poorly made by a previous owner and

Re: need help in identifying a 1500 (?)

2017-08-01 Thread 'joe biunno' via Legacy Ornamental Mills
well, at least I now know what the manual looks like...LOL!...and this is for the steel rail legacy units, as it was with an older listing that had photos of the machine...and so the hunt continues...joe b. >> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups

Re: need help in identifying a 1500 (?)

2017-08-01 Thread 'joe biunno' via Legacy Ornamental Mills
and so it begins!...thank god for computer searches!...quickly found this 4-wheel, carriage assembly that is specifically designed for the unistrut P1000 channel that legacy used on this machine...four of these(two for the front rail and two for the back rail), set up with "L" brackets that

Re: need help in identifying a 1500 (?)

2017-08-01 Thread 'joe biunno' via Legacy Ornamental Mills
here is a photo of the split nut used on the lead screw...a bit odd as it hinges open and closed...certainly very difficult to replace when it becomes worn out and most likely I will set up a split block that was used in later machines...the later type is easier to copy and make from

RE: need help in identifying a 1500 (?)

2017-07-31 Thread Bill Bulkeley
of thinking Bill From: 'joe biunno' via Legacy Ornamental Mills [mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] Sent: Tuesday, 1 August 2017 5:52 AM To: Legacy Ornamental Mills Subject: Re: need help in identifying a 1500 (?) next up is a close-up of one of the gears...the gears seem

RE: need help in identifying a 1500 (?)

2017-07-31 Thread Bill Bulkeley
Ornamental Mills Subject: Re: need help in identifying a 1500 (?) i'll start with a photo of the tailstock...is this a legacy piece?...seems to fit too well to think that someone found a tailstock from a different machine and modified it to fit this legacy...number 2 morse taper...I might

Re: need help in identifying a 1500 (?)

2017-07-31 Thread Tim Krause
Hi Joe, Yes that is a model 1500 in theory.  Essentially a model 1500 is the same as a model 1000 except for it came with all the options.  It was built pre 1998.  The gears that you are seeing are the same as all of the modern aluminum rail model 1000.  They are fine pitch so the main gear of

Re: need help in identifying a 1500 (?)

2017-07-31 Thread 'joe biunno' via Legacy Ornamental Mills
the entire machine is steel...no aluminum whatsoever...and I actually saw some welds!...LOL!...on the leg units...center to center is 87" +/-...but other than the lead screw(and a support for it), lengthening this machine would seem to be easy as the 1 1/2" square tubing and the uni-strut are

RE: need help in identifying a 1500 (?)

2017-07-31 Thread Russ Veinot
Wow, I have never seen the 1500 up close. Sure is different than my 1200. Are those rails steel? From: 'joe biunno' via Legacy Ornamental Mills [mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] Sent: Monday, July 31, 2017 3:10 PM To: Legacy Ornamental Mills Subject: Re: need help

Re: need help in identifying a 1500 (?)

2017-07-31 Thread 'joe biunno' via Legacy Ornamental Mills
and now for some of the ugly!...seems the Y carriage was modified with a ball bearing concept...some oak was cut and attached to the underside of the carriage...a small bearing was set up on a round headed machine screw that then went into the oak...this provided front-to-back, ball bearing

Re: need help in identifying a 1500 (?)

2017-07-31 Thread 'joe biunno' via Legacy Ornamental Mills
i'll start with a photo of the tailstock...is this a legacy piece?...seems to fit too well to think that someone found a tailstock from a different machine and modified it to fit this legacy...number 2 morse taper...I might think the long slots in the base of the tailstock could accommodate