Re: [LegacyUG] Locations in England

2009-10-18 Thread John Clare
It doesn't work terribly well for England because it doesn't have too many places in it. Main towns are there, but villages in general are not. If you have lots of ancestors living with a few miles and want to distinguish their locations, it is not very helpful. If you are happy with Nottingham

Re: [LegacyUG] master list

2009-02-22 Thread John Clare
The Latin plural of census is census although the last u should be long rather than short if you are saying it. It is 4th declension. In English it is normally censuses because census doesn't sound right to us. As to using the master list, it all depends on how you use it. I have the 1880 census

Re: [LegacyUG] Censussissies. . .

2009-02-22 Thread John Clare
Sorry, but I think Google is probably wrong. Most Latin nouns ending in -us are 2nd declension and the plural would therefore be -i, but census is 4th declension (like portus - a port) where the plural is portus (pronounced portoos, ie a long u). I have checked in the Collins and the Oxford Latin

Re: [LegacyUG] More countries

2009-01-25 Thread John Clare
The USA structure was set up quite late in the history of things and thus has a generally standard form, in the same way perhaps as its towns have a grid system for their layout. The English ( and Scots and NI) system are more generally based on the concept of giving enough information to find the

Re: [LegacyUG] More countries

2009-01-25 Thread John Clare
The difference between a Borough and a Town is a nice one. Our Town, Kingston upon Thames for instance is a Borough (a Royal Borough to be precise, but that is another game). I think most charters have gone to Boroughs by which I implied towns. The normal wording of the charter is addressed to the

Re: [LegacyUG] Physical Description

2009-01-10 Thread John Clare
I have come across this as well, particularly with Merchant Seamen who were described from 1835 in the Register of Seamen records (Class BT 120 et al). I use Physical Description in the Master Event list as the hook. John 2009/1/10 Jenny M Benson ge...@cedarbank.me.uk: Belinda wrote I've

Re: [LegacyUG] Off Topic: Internet Explorer Security Risk

2008-12-18 Thread John Clare
Absolutely. Especially as IE does not adhere to standard. John 2008/12/18 jeffma...@sephardicgen.com jeffma...@sephardicgen.com: This is one of the things I do not like about Legacy which uses IE exclusively. I wish there was a way to get it to use an alternative browser instead of IE and

Re: [LegacyUG] Census Information: How to record 'published date' in the the Master Source definition of Sourcewriter.

2008-09-30 Thread John Clare
The original source is National Archives HO107 (HO stands for Home Office) and the class is England and Wales Census for 1851 (not just England). There are many organisations who have transcribed the images, but the original image production was done by the National Archives in the days when it

Re: [LegacyUG] Help with event wording

2008-09-29 Thread John Clare
Moved sounds perfectly right and reasonable. John 2008/9/29 S. Fry [EMAIL PROTECTED] Perhaps relocate or relocated would work. - Original Message - *From:* Melanie Tucker [EMAIL PROTECTED] *To:* LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com *Sent:* Monday, September 29, 2008 12:41 PM

Re: [LegacyUG] Entering English Locations

2008-09-13 Thread John Clare
It is probably best to forget the idea of four words to describe a place. In the English scheme you tend to use country (useful if sending to people in other countries), then county and then a description of where the place is. If it is a village, use the village. If it is a very small village,

Re: [LegacyUG] Entering English Locations

2008-09-13 Thread John Clare
That one is simple enough, Windsor Castle is in Windsor, which is in Berkshire (shire not county).It is not in London, it is not in Greater London and it is not in Middlesex ( and never ever has been). Surely simple enough even for a Californian. John 2008/9/13 RICHARD SCHULTHIES [EMAIL

Re: [LegacyUG] Entering English Locations

2008-09-13 Thread John Clare
the experts find more about places, you will be able to benefit by preserving the name in your addresses and then extending the history. I will now get off my hobby-horse John 2008/9/13 RICHARD SCHULTHIES [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ooops. Rich in LA CA --- On Sat, 9/13/08, John Clare [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: [LegacyUG] Has anybody tried to use Legacy to build an Adam and Eve family tree?

2008-08-14 Thread John Clare
King Arthur the Great? Who he. John 2008/8/14 pkrk1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] I am new to Legacy had used FTM for over 10 years. Most Royalty in Europe have their family trees back to the Bible. If you can line your family history to connect to one of them there are books on their family History.

Re: [LegacyUG] Sourcewriter - English BMD certificates

2008-07-30 Thread John Clare
One small point is that the reference for the GRO version is different from the reference for the Local Register Office. I found this out when I asked a Local Office for a certificate and gave the GRO reference. They had to look through over 50 Local Registers (lots of churches in the area) before

Re: [LegacyUG] Tree list problem

2008-07-25 Thread John Clare
It seems odd to work on the basis that the lowest RIN is the top of the tree. I have normally found that, using such things as IGI, I work backwards and so the next generation back will tend to have higher RINs than the ones before, not lower. Also, how does one define the top. Is it the longest

Re: [LegacyUG] 29 February 1894 - What's wrong with this date?

2008-07-22 Thread John Clare
No, 1894 doesn't divide by 4. 1894 was not a leap year. 1896 and 1892 were leap years. John 2008/7/22 Melody B [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I don't know if this is a bug or not. I have a date for something or other that is 29 Feb 1894. To me, that sure looks like a valid date. 1894 should have been

Re: [LegacyUG] Census - To split or not to split, that is the question!

2008-07-05 Thread John Clare
Another reason for not splitting is to avoid errors. If you consider each one as separate, there is a chance that mistakes can enter into the data. Also, if you wish to change the description of a source, you only have to change it in one place rather than in each record. In the UK, the Public

Re: [LegacyUG] Followup to Discussion about Periods after Initials.

2008-06-30 Thread John Clare
I seem to have heard of someone called Ulysses S Grant as well John 2008/6/30 Art Seddon [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Of course the best known American example would be Harry S Truman, who made it vary plain that the S was his middle name, not an initial, He said what the S stood for was S and nothing

Re: [LegacyUG] Version 7 Lat/Long format

2008-06-16 Thread John Clare
.001 of a minute of arc is about 1 inch. Should be accurate enough for most purposes. John 2008/6/16 Larry Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi David, You may have missed my point I recognize degrees, minutes and decimals of minutes is a good form of GPS. My point is that when gathering GPS

Re: [LegacyUG] Non-US Censuses in v7

2008-06-14 Thread John Clare
As far as UK censuses are concerned, I use each Census as a source. The 1901 census is classified as archive reference RG13 (RG for Registrar General) and all the records are of the same format. The 1841 Census for instance, collected less data and therefore has a different format, it also

Re: [LegacyUG] Geo Location

2008-06-06 Thread John Clare
Kingston upon Thames has about 100,000 registered electors, so population about 130,000. It is also a London Borough. John Clare 2008/6/6 ronald ferguson [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Rich, It's big enough. I am sure that the UK problems mainly arise because of the USA location system being applied

Re: [LegacyUG] Geo Location

2008-06-04 Thread John Clare
I have just tried it as well. My sister was born in Kingston upon Thames, Surrey, England. The system finds Kingston, Jamaica, WI. I was married in North Wales but the nearest it can manage is London. Not impressive. John Clare 2008/6/4 Martin Briscoe [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I have just upgraded

Re: [LegacyUG] IE7 Required (Trouble)

2008-05-24 Thread John Clare
I am certainly loth to install IE anything. Too many opportunities for infection. Too far away from the standards. Can we hope for proper browsers to be supported soon. John 2008/5/24 Wynthner [EMAIL PROTECTED]: IMHO, Legacy requiring IE7 for certain functions is the biggest blunder by a

Re: [LegacyUG] IE7 Required (Trouble)

2008-05-24 Thread John Clare
I do use Legacy 6. I do not use Home to view the news. John 2008/5/24 Bob Janice [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Are you using Legacy 6 now? Do you make use of the Legacy Home tab to view the Legacy News items?? Wynthner wrote: IMHO, Legacy requiring IE7 for certain functions is the biggest blunder

Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy 7 out on 05-10-2008

2008-05-07 Thread John Clare
The list idea could be great fun, considering that the Legacy users are spread fairly evenly around the world, all with their different time zones. They could sell tickets to watch the chaos! Regards John 2008/5/7 MICHELLE CROSBY [EMAIL PROTECTED]: 2 weeks ago I updated to 6 will I be able to

Re: [LegacyUG] Sources and the elusive version 7 .... again.

2008-04-07 Thread John Clare
1860 US Census would seem a reasonable Master source. If you are using this county a lot, it might be worth adding this to the master. The Ancestry bit is not even a primary source and is unlikely to exist in 50 years in the same format. The rest is source detail which applies to that specific

Re: [LegacyUG] Family view information fields problem

2008-04-06 Thread John Clare
Go to individual page, in the Burial or Cremated line there is a + sign at the other end. Click on this and you get a drop down list, one of which is cremated with a tick by it. Untick it and it will revert to Burial. John On 06/04/2008, Penny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry. It's me again.

Re: [LegacyUG] Re: asking questions associated with Legacy

2008-04-06 Thread John Clare
The problem then arises as to what is considered to be technologically competent and therefore what would be in the test. For instance, if understanding optimised third normal form were to be a requirement, we ought not to get discussions about lumpers and splitters !! John On 06/04/2008,

Re: [LegacyUG] Adding correct city to Location field

2008-03-14 Thread John Clare
Probably the next thing to do would be to look them up in the Census. Apart from the 1841, Census, the place of birth is given. This should define their place of birth more accurately. Epsom however, is considerably larger than the places around it and you may well find a large proportion of them

Re: [LegacyUG] February 74% OFF

2008-02-14 Thread John Clare
This one seems odd. I have not received this mail (I have checked my spam folder). John On 14/02/2008, Ron Bernier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mike, Congratulations on your outstanding ISP being able to think for you. I prefer to do my own thinking. I let my ISP determine what is and isn't

Re: [LegacyUG] Legacy Version 8

2008-01-21 Thread John Clare
Are you suggesting that we will have to enjoy ourselves by speculating on the content and release of Legacy 9 !! Regards John Clare On 21/01/2008, Wynthner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ron, I'll go you one better- Don't mention Legacy 8 until the Announcement of the release. Needless to say

Re: [LegacyUG] Sources

2007-12-30 Thread John Clare
it for the Cemetery reference where I have a lot of people buried in the same cemetery. John Clare On 30/12/2007, Wynthner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hmmm.. why not just directly access the database table itself (rather then the Master Source List) and use search/replace to change it? - Original Message

Re: [LegacyUG] Freeman

2007-12-24 Thread John Clare
are honoured by the Borough or Council which creates them, but they are not members of it.This is unlike Aldermen who are holders of office within the Council. I hope this helps, John Clare Alderman, Royal Borough of Kingston upon Thames, Surrey On 24/12/2007, Thomas Herson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why

Re: [LegacyUG] Freeman

2007-12-23 Thread John Clare
I have put it down as an Honour. John Clare On 24/12/2007, Patti Hobbs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Have any of you categorized made a freeman in one of the Legacy event categories? Patti Give Legacy as a Gift for 25% Off. Visit http://tinyurl.com/2b49et Legacy User Group guidelines

Re: [LegacyUG] The good old days (was Legacy Users Groups in UK ?!!?)

2007-12-12 Thread John Clare
There were 8 inch floppies before the new fangled 5 1/4 inch ones. But these disk things are really rather new. The first computer I ever saw held its data in mercury delay lines and kept several other buildings warm with the heat from its valves. John Clare On 12/12/2007, Kathy Shiell-Stokes

Re: [LegacyUG] One last question about place names

2007-11-23 Thread John Clare
an economic point of view. After the sugar trade, the spices and textiles from India and the far East were next in the pecking order with tobacco and cotton fairly low in the priorities. John Clare On 23/11/2007, Michele Lewis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So maybe this would sound better

Re: [LegacyUG] Date Format Importance

2007-11-20 Thread John Clare
US of A was part of England until 1707, only part of Great Britain after 1707. Apologies if this is thought to be pedantic. Regards John Clare Thomas Herson wrote: Also, I would recommend ALWAYS indicating the country. Just because your known ancestors weren't from or didn't reside

Re: [LegacyUG] Y-DNA test results for women?

2007-11-14 Thread John Clare
produced a new better test. Regards John Clare On 14/11/2007, hwedhlor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sherry, I appreciate that programmer's time is limited, particularly when a new version is close to release, but this change is not a request for an enhancement. It is a request to correct

Re: [LegacyUG] Adopted Daughter unmarried mother

2007-09-21 Thread John Clare
Royalty can adopt, but, as you say, the adopted child would be treated differently from the heir of the body, which is what the discussion was about. The main differentiation however is that a large number of adoptees are still alive, certainly in England, who were born under the old system. They

Re: [LegacyUG] Adopted Daughter unmarried mother

2007-09-20 Thread John Clare
Certainly the Letters Patent determine the path of inheritance and there are four Scottish Countesses in their own right at the moment since their Letters Patent specify heirs of the body. Also, on occasion a special condition in included such as the Dukedom of Marlborough also allowed inheritance

Re: [LegacyUG] Adopted Daughter unmarried mother

2007-09-19 Thread John Clare
of breast cancer by the age of 50. She is nearly 90 and healthy. John Clare On 19/09/2007, Sara Binkley Tarpley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am somewhat reluctant to post on this again as I fear it may be getting off topic. Let me begin by saying if the law thinks that the terms mother, father, parent

Re: [LegacyUG] How to enter English Locations

2007-09-14 Thread John Clare
people, even world wide who have heard of the United Kingdom but have never heard of England. Hope this helps John Clare On 14/09/2007, The Eccles Family [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Everyone, This might be a question of those at are familiar with English research. I am currently editing

Re: [LegacyUG] New General Release Build - 28 Jul 2007 - ver 6.0.0.155

2007-08-07 Thread John Clare
Ooh! no problem, it has gone back to normal size on its own. John Clare On 06/08/07, Mike Fry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: John Clare wrote: How do we return it to the proper size so that it doesn't obscure all the other things needed on the screen. With much muttering and swearing under

Re: [LegacyUG] New General Release Build - 28 Jul 2007 - ver 6.0.0.155

2007-08-06 Thread John Clare
How do we return it to the proper size so that it doesn't obscure all the other things needed on the screen. Regards John Clare On 06/08/07, Mike Fry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Geoff Rasmussen wrote: SNIP CHANGED Screen Size

Re: [LegacyUG] Location formatting and Geo location

2007-07-16 Thread John Clare
. At the moment I have to use the nearest local town, but being able to give the precise location would obviate the question of trying to shoehorn into the Statesian structure. Also,the location is immutable, even if, in different times,it has been called by different names. John Clare On 16/07/07