RE: [LegacyUG] Entering English Locations

2008-09-14 Thread Martin Briscoe
: [LegacyUG] Entering English Locations Martin, Yes, you have me even more confused. I asked someone last week how to list an Ireland location. Not wanting to risk offending anyone on the list, I didn't want to post my question, but now I must. In an effort to be accurate, I wanted to know

RE: [LegacyUG] Entering English Locations

2008-09-13 Thread Martin Briscoe
I don't know the places but Denton, Clun and Blyton will almost certainly be villages or towns and not cities. City status in the UK has a very special meaning, it is not used at the whim of some local politician or businessman to enhance the status of their home town. There are some very small

Re: [LegacyUG] Entering English Locations

2008-09-13 Thread Jenny M Benson
Cathy Vallevieni wrote: How are you entering English locations (what goes in City slot, County slot, State slot, England)? The following are some samples of what I am working with: Denton (city), Durham (County? except England doesn't have counties?), England Firstly, I think you are

RE: [LegacyUG] Entering English Locations

2008-09-13 Thread Jenny M Benson
I don't use England at all. I only use the country if outside England. I know quite a few people say they only use the country name for locations outside their own country, but personally I think this is not a good idea. For starters, will other people inheriting your research know that this

RE: [LegacyUG] Entering English Locations

2008-09-13 Thread ronald ferguson
Cathy, The best advice I can give anyone when entering UK is to completely forget about the US 4 field convention - it does not work. To take the point s which you raise: There are at least 10 Dentons in England, non are cities, some are districts, some towns, some villages. If you are

RE: [LegacyUG] Entering English Locations

2008-09-13 Thread ronald ferguson
/ _ Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2008 10:35:46 +0100 Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Entering English Locations From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com I don't use England at all. I only use the country if outside England. I know quite a few people say they only use the country name

RE: [LegacyUG] Entering English Locations

2008-09-13 Thread Martin Briscoe
!). Martin Briscoe Fort William MLFHS | Gwynedd FHS -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ronald ferguson Sent: 13 September 2008 11:32 To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Entering English

RE: [LegacyUG] Entering English Locations

2008-09-13 Thread Martin Briscoe
MLFHS | Gwynedd FHS -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ronald ferguson Sent: 13 September 2008 11:39 To: legacyusergroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Entering English Locations Jenny, Sorry, that is only

Re: [LegacyUG] Entering English Locations

2008-09-13 Thread John Clare
It is probably best to forget the idea of four words to describe a place. In the English scheme you tend to use country (useful if sending to people in other countries), then county and then a description of where the place is. If it is a village, use the village. If it is a very small village,

RE: [LegacyUG] Entering English Locations

2008-09-13 Thread Kirsten Bowman
, September 13, 2008 4:58 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Entering English Locations It is probably best to forget the idea of four words to describe a place. In the English scheme you tend to use country (useful if sending to people in other countries

Re: [LegacyUG] Entering English Locations

2008-09-13 Thread RICHARD SCHULTHIES
I am in the process of changing my locations concepts. So for non-USA places, I am using, in general, Country, Province/County, Parish, Sub-parish/named-farm/named-building. For UK sites, the best examples are the castles. (Trick question). Is it : Windsor Castle, Windsor, Berkshire, England

Re: [LegacyUG] Entering English Locations

2008-09-13 Thread John Clare
That one is simple enough, Windsor Castle is in Windsor, which is in Berkshire (shire not county).It is not in London, it is not in Greater London and it is not in Middlesex ( and never ever has been). Surely simple enough even for a Californian. John 2008/9/13 RICHARD SCHULTHIES [EMAIL

RE: [LegacyUG] Entering English Locations

2008-09-13 Thread Martin Briscoe
] Entering English Locations That one is simple enough, Windsor Castle is in Windsor, which is in Berkshire (shire not county).It is not in London, it is not in Greater London and it is not in Middlesex ( and never ever has been). Surely simple enough even for a Californian. Legacy User Group

Re: [LegacyUG] Entering English Locations

2008-09-13 Thread RICHARD SCHULTHIES
Ooops. Rich in LA CA --- On Sat, 9/13/08, John Clare [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: John Clare [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Entering English Locations To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Date: Saturday, September 13, 2008, 11:43 AM That one is simple enough, Windsor

RE: [LegacyUG] Entering English Locations

2008-09-13 Thread Kirsten Bowman
Locations Ooops. Rich in LA CA --- On Sat, 9/13/08, John Clare [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: John Clare [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Entering English Locations To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Date: Saturday, September 13, 2008, 11:43 AM That one is simple enough, Windsor

Re: [LegacyUG] Entering English Locations

2008-09-13 Thread Kris
Jenny M Benson wrote: I don't use England at all. I only use the country if outside England. I know quite a few people say they only use the country name for locations outside their own country, but personally I think this is not a good idea. For starters, will other people inheriting your

RE: [LegacyUG] Entering English Locations

2008-09-13 Thread Jenny M Benson
ronald ferguson wrote: Jenny, Sorry, that is only good advice if one doesn't publish and btw how would you differentiate eg between Bangor, Northern Ireland and Bangor, Wales. I know they are in different Counties but where are the counties? Not sure if you misread what I wrote or if you

Re: [LegacyUG] Entering English Locations

2008-09-13 Thread John Clare
] wrote: From: John Clare [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Entering English Locations To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Date: Saturday, September 13, 2008, 11:43 AM That one is simple enough, Windsor Castle is in Windsor, which is in Berkshire (shire not county

RE: [LegacyUG] Entering English Locations

2008-09-13 Thread ronald ferguson
/ _ Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2008 23:24:49 +0100 Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Entering English Locations From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com ronald ferguson wrote: Jenny, Sorry, that is only good advice if one doesn't publish and btw how would you

Re: [LegacyUG] Entering English Locations

2008-09-13 Thread Heeren
That was insulting and boorish... --- On Sat, 9/13/08, John Clare [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: John Clare [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Entering English Locations To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Date: Saturday, September 13, 2008, 11:43 AM That one is simple enough

Re: [LegacyUG] Entering English Locations

2008-09-13 Thread Erin Bradshaw
: Martin Briscoe [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2008 3:55 AM Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Entering English Locations But it is best to avoid modern county names like Cleveland except in a very recent address perhaps. It also gets complicated

RE: [LegacyUG] Entering English Locations

2008-09-13 Thread ronald ferguson
. Erin - Original Message - From: Martin Briscoe To: Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2008 3:55 AM Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Entering English Locations But it is best to avoid modern county names like Cleveland except in a very recent address perhaps. It also gets complicated

Re: [LegacyUG] Entering English Locations

2008-09-13 Thread Erin Bradshaw
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2008 3:34 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Entering English Locations My apologies for being sharp, but Britain did not have a system created in the 17th and 18th centuries for its naming conventions and the name can

Re: [LegacyUG] Entering English Locations

2008-09-13 Thread RICHARD SCHULTHIES
] wrote: From: Erin Bradshaw [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Entering English Locations To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Date: Saturday, September 13, 2008, 6:28 PM Martin, Yes, you have me even more confused. I asked someone last week how to list an Ireland location

RE: [LegacyUG] Entering English Locations

2008-09-13 Thread Teresa Keough
, September 13, 2008 6:29 PM To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Entering English Locations Martin, Yes, you have me even more confused. I asked someone last week how to list an Ireland location. Not wanting to risk offending anyone on the list, I didn't want to post my

RE: [LegacyUG] Entering English Locations

2008-09-12 Thread Dave Miller
Cathy, I take no notice of 'slots' of any kind so, Your examples would look like this ; Denton, County Durham. (England certainly does have counties but we don't say 'County Kent' or 'Kent County', just 'Kent'. As always there are exceptions, such as your example Durham, which can be