Re: [LegacyUG] marriages

2013-06-20 Thread Mary LeClerc
Finally have to jump in here. While I agree that there are a myriad of ways to describe what constitutes a "family", all I expect from a software program is to be able to chart the relationships and link them together. In my opinion Legacy already offers all of the options we need to label these r

Re: [LegacyUG] marriages

2013-06-20 Thread Ellen
Are you looking for something other than the marriage box where you can say that the couple never married and separately you can say that they never had children? We already have that on the upper left corner of the marriage editing box. Or is there something else that you are referring to? G

Re: [LegacyUG] marriages

2013-06-20 Thread Pat Hickin
Perhaps a compromise is in order -- if Legacy can't bring itself to split the two statements, at least it could say, " never married and had no known children." Pat On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 11:27 PM, Pat Hickin wrote: > Amen!! It seems ridiculous to me that Legacy almost forces us to state

Re: [LegacyUG] marriages

2013-06-20 Thread Pat Hickin
Amen!! It seems ridiculous to me that Legacy almost forces us to state as fact something that we can not *possiby* know!! Pat On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 9:17 PM, Tony Rolfe wrote: > Can we go back to the original request and forget about all the > extraneous waffle which has appeared on this subj

Re: [LegacyUG] Source Template Conversion Tool

2013-06-20 Thread Walt Quering
I may misunderstand the issue, but, from what I've seen, the problem is a GEDCOM problem, not a Legacy problem. The aging GEDCOM model has only so many fields for citations and dumps data from unrecognized fields in the software of origin into its note fields. Back when Legacy was the only softwa

[LegacyUG] marriages

2013-06-20 Thread Tony Rolfe
Can we go back to the original request and forget about all the extraneous waffle which has appeared on this subject. Just because Legacy must create a "marriage" record whenever a child is added to a parent, it doesn't mean that a real-world marriage actually occurred. It is frequently easy to t

RE: [LegacyUG] Source Template Conversion Tool

2013-06-20 Thread David Abernathy
John, Turn OFF the Request of email. Read the rules of the Mail List Guide lines http://www.legacyfamilytree.com/Etiquette.asp [quote] Attachments & Received Requests Do not send attachments of any kind. Because viruses can hide in attachments, don't open any Legacy Users Group message tha

Re: [LegacyUG] Source Template Conversion Tool

2013-06-20 Thread Larry Lee
CE, I know very little about the use of GEDCOM, it either works for me or it doesn't. Granted GEDCOM development is always behind the times. I understand backward compatibility is always a challenge. Even so, since Millennia created Sourcewriter shouldn't they be responsible to create a workaroun

RE: [LegacyUG] Source Template Conversion Tool

2013-06-20 Thread CE WOOD
Unfortunately for Source Writer devotees, it is not a Legacy problem, it is that gedcom standards are out of date. Then again, perhaps a Legacy gedcom could be created that would accommodate Source Writer templates, but only for import back into Legacy. That might be useful for cleaning up a Le

Re: [LegacyUG] Source Template Conversion Tool

2013-06-20 Thread John Bernacki
I hope Legacy 8 will fix all these problems. John From: CE WOOD Sent: Friday, June 21, 2013 5:09 AM To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Source Template Conversion Tool Before you convert, I advise you to read the archives here to learn about the many problems associated

Re: [LegacyUG] Never married option in Legacy 8

2013-06-20 Thread Don Hendershot
Please! Make it stop! ~Don On Jun 20, 2013, at 1:46 PM, hwedhlor wrote: > Hi Jenny, > > Of course people are concerned about words. Words are how > we communicate, for the most part. Most words have > definitions that are accepted widely enough to be included > in current dictionaries. > >

Re: [LegacyUG] Never married option in Legacy 8

2013-06-20 Thread hwedhlor
Hi Jenny, Of course people are concerned about words. Words are how we communicate, for the most part. Most words have definitions that are accepted widely enough to be included in current dictionaries. In the strictest of definitions of biological "genealogy" the primary purpose of entering th

RE: [LegacyUG] marriages

2013-06-20 Thread David Abernathy
michele Well said, and “That’s about all there’s to be said.” Thanks, David C Abernathy Email disclaimers This message represents the official view of the voices in my head. -

RE: [LegacyUG] Source Template Conversion Tool

2013-06-20 Thread CE WOOD
Before you convert, I advise you to read the archives here to learn about the many problems associated with using Source Writer templates. Many people have converted all their sources back to Basic because of the problems, not the least of which is the fact that gedcoms do not recognize Source W

Re: [LegacyUG] Source Template Conversion Tool

2013-06-20 Thread Larry Lee
Chris, I have heard this mentioned in the past. It is not available in Legacy. You might try http://zippersoftware.com/ltools/ I have not used it personally. Larry Lee ldlee...@gmail.com On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 9:38 AM, Chris Clifford wrote: > ** > Hello: > > In an effort to clean up my s

Re: [LegacyUG] Source Template Conversion Tool

2013-06-20 Thread Leon Chapman
Sorry. It is not available You should try exporting to a GEDCOM file a source or two to make sure it exports correctly for you. Others have had problems. I am sticking with Basic Sourcing Chap Sent from my iPad Leon Chapman chap...@gmail.com ⛳ On Jun 20, 2013, at 12:05 PM, Chris Clifford wr

RE: [LegacyUG] Never married option in Legacy 8--adopted child

2013-06-20 Thread CE WOOD
But the single adoptive parent DOES have a child! That is what adoption is all about. You are correct that perhaps that single adoptive parent did not provide the sperm or egg for the child, but that person does have a child. CE Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2013 21:29:28 -0400 Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Ne

Re: [LegacyUG] Source Template Conversion Tool

2013-06-20 Thread Gene Young
On 6/20/2013 12:38 PM, Chris Clifford wrote: > Hello: > In an effort to clean up my sources, I would like to convert my existing > basic source citations to the new Source Writer templates, but am unable to > find the "Source Template Conversion Tool". My manual for 7.0 indicates that > it is r

[LegacyUG] Source Template Conversion Tool

2013-06-20 Thread Chris Clifford
Hello: In an effort to clean up my sources, I would like to convert my existing basic source citations to the new Source Writer templates, but am unable to find the "Source Template Conversion Tool". My manual for 7.0 indicates that it is reached from the Master Source List by clicking the Opt

Re: [LegacyUG] Never married option in Legacy 8

2013-06-20 Thread Jenny M Benson
On 18/06/2013 17:10, John Zimmerman wrote: > Why not simply rename the "Marriage Indormation Window" to call it the > "Relationship Information Window"? Because then people would quibble over the meaning of the word "Relationship" and say that a "one-night-stand" or AI or rape or whatever does no

Re: [LegacyUG] Commonly used Christian name

2013-06-20 Thread Jenny M Benson
On 18/06/2013 17:16, Ron Ferguson wrote: > You can enclose the names he used in quotes in the first name field i.e > John Edward Frederick *Fredrick” Smith. When creating reports etc. one > can then opt to use only the name in quotes for the narratives and also > remove the quoted name from print

[LegacyUG] marriages

2013-06-20 Thread Michele Lewis
Y'all are making such a fuss. Do the other database programs have options to have the relationship as domestic partner, lover, live-in boyfriend, wife-wife, husband-husband etc? If so, then switch to one of those if it serves your purposes. I have had no problem with Legacy in this regard. I a

RE: [LegacyUG] Never married option in Legacy 8--adopted child

2013-06-20 Thread Ronald Bernier
The problem is, some people get hung up on terminology. They accuse the programmers of being unnecessarily rigid, when in fact it is the individual who is rigid. The person has a set definition of marriage in mind and can't let his/her mind waiver from that definition. Unfortunately, folks pu

Re: [LegacyUG] Never married option in Legacy 8--adopted child

2013-06-20 Thread donel...@juno.com
Since I grew up (I am an old guy now) the legal and accepted definitions of parent and marriage/partnering (and many other terms) have changed drastically and they continue to do so almost every day. It even depends what state one lives in. How can a computer program be expected to keep up with o