Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Someone already had a look at theBing TermsofUse?

2010-12-21 Thread Frederik Ramm
Anthony, Anthony wrote: On Tue, Dec 21, 2010 at 10:48 AM, Frederik Ramm wrote: This rule means that everything that is traced from Bing before OSM stops publishing under CC-BY-SA will be available to the world, forever, under CC-BY-SA. But a hypothetical CC-BY-SA fork would not be allowed to a

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Someone already had a look at theBing TermsofUse?

2010-12-21 Thread Anthony
On Tue, Dec 21, 2010 at 10:48 AM, Frederik Ramm wrote: > This rule means that everything that is traced from Bing before OSM stops > publishing under CC-BY-SA will be available to the world, forever, under > CC-BY-SA. But a hypothetical CC-BY-SA fork would not be allowed to accept > newly traced d

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Someone already had a look at theBing TermsofUse?

2010-12-21 Thread Frederik Ramm
Phillip, On 12/21/10 16:43, Barnett, Phillip wrote: So people who have not (yet) accepted the CTs can't use Bing? Is that really the case? I think Rob was slightly wrong when he said: We do not have permission from Bing to licence the data differently anywhere else. And contributions to OSM

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Someone already had a look at theBing TermsofUse?

2010-12-21 Thread Barnett, Phillip
So people who have not (yet) accepted the CTs can't use Bing? Is that really the case? Phillip >We do not have permission from Bing to licence the data differently >anywhere else. And contributions to OSM should be under the CTs. - Rob. PHILLIP BARNETT SERVER MANAGER 200 GRAY'S INN ROAD LON

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Someone already had a look at theBing TermsofUse?

2010-12-21 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, On 12/21/10 11:51, Andrew Harvey wrote: I am having this conversation because I contribute to OSM on the basis that the database will be licensed CC BY-SA and will not be filled with data which conflicts with that license. If tracings from Bing imagery cannot be distributed under this licens

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] [OSM-talk] Objects versions ready for ODbL

2010-12-21 Thread Simon Ward
On Tue, Dec 21, 2010 at 01:00:26PM +, Simon Ward wrote: > On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 11:52:04AM +, DavidD wrote: > > On 20 December 2010 10:25, Simone Cortesi wrote: > > > On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 10:00, Stephen Hope wrote: > > >> I must admit, however, that basically handing the keys to the

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Someone already had a look at theBing TermsofUse?

2010-12-21 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Andrew Harvey wrote: > We need to find a norm as a community so we don't have > this conflict. We do have a norm as a community. 99% of people are tracing from Bing imagery and you're not. Richard -- View this message in context: http://gis.638310.n2.nabble.com/OSM-legal-talk-Someone-already

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Someone already had a look at theBing TermsofUse?

2010-12-21 Thread Rob Myers
On 21/12/10 10:51, Andrew Harvey wrote: I am having this conversation because I contribute to OSM on the basis that the database will be licensed CC BY-SA and will not be filled with data which conflicts with that license. If tracings from Bing imagery cannot be distributed under this license, t

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] [OSM-talk] Objects versions ready for ODbL

2010-12-21 Thread Simon Ward
[Also posted to legal-talk, I suggest follow-ups go there.] In short… On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 11:52:04AM +, DavidD wrote: > On 20 December 2010 10:25, Simone Cortesi wrote: > > On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 10:00, Stephen Hope wrote: > >> I must admit, however, that basically handing the keys to

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Someone already had a look at theBing TermsofUse?

2010-12-21 Thread Andrew Harvey
On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 11:34 AM, Frederik Ramm wrote: > David (& some others), > > David Groom wrote: >> >> I've repeatedly asked where is the explicit permission to use Bing Imagery >> to create derived works, all the only answer is "we have it". As I've said >> before if its there please show