On 21/12/10 10:51, Andrew Harvey wrote:

I am having this conversation because I contribute to OSM on the basis
that the database will be licensed CC BY-SA and will not be filled
with data which conflicts with that license. If tracings from Bing
imagery cannot be distributed under this license, then the OSM

In what way would Bing traced data conflict with BY-SA?

OSM is currently licenced BY-SA. Bing-derived data from OSM editors must be contributed to OSM. Bing data will therefore currently be licenced BY-SA.

community should be made aware of this, so we can treat such edits as
vandalism. If tracings from Bing can be distributed under a CC BY-SA
license then again the OSM community should be made aware of this so
we can use this as a mapping source.

OSM isn't going to be licenced BY-SA much longer.

While it is, the Bing-derived contributions in OSM will be included with the BY-SA version.

If the folks at Microsoft really do have the permissions to and grant
us the permissions to license derived works as we wish, (even under
the condition that they are uploaded to osm.org), they would come on
this list and tell us directly whether we have the permission or not.

What we have is sufficient permission to upload Bing traced data to OSM under the CTs. OSM can then licence the data as they have stated they will. Which, currently, means under BY-SA.

We do not have permission from Bing to licence the data differently anywhere else. And contributions to OSM should be under the CTs.

- Rob.

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