a free and open license".
Hi,
Have you noticed that there are already quite many Australian datasets
including Victorian Government data listed here:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Contributors#Contributor_specific_attribution_and_disclaimer
-Jukka Rahkonen
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at I can truncate OSM tables and deliver the database as
such? Or if I import CC-BY and OSM data into the same table can I do "delete
from table where source='OSM'" before delivering that as a CC-BY 4.0 database?
-Jukka Rahkonen-
ices which are based on WMS to
implement the OSM copyright into the corner of the map just like they must
to do that when they use tile services.
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> Marcel
>
It is hard to find definitive answers from this list but I have understood
that the current interpretation is that your database would be derived from
OSM and thus you must publish the data you collect under ODbL.
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aps in their application.
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source worldwide so it could be reasonable. However, in Finland and Norway,
for example, MapBox may utilize more data from the national mapping agencies
(or maybe not, I do not know). Would that change the situation - localised
ranking of data sources needed?
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Catalogue
[5] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Contributors
[6] http://www.openstreetmap.org/copyright
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inutes". I apologize. Good thing is that
now there is a link to just 2013-12-10 minutes in the archive which makes
things even more clear for the future readers.
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Do yuo mean that?
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assert against
OSMF or its licensees any moral rights that You may have in the Contents".
http://www.osmfoundation.org/wiki/License/Contributor_Terms
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> Jonathan.
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> > like (if that's what you mean?) so long as it retains OSM's attribution.
> > Including "all rights reserved".
>
> But doesn't BY-SA claim to cover the database rights? Doesn't that clash
> with the ODbL?
Hi,
Pekka was asking about initial im
the user feedback would become share-alike
if user locates the place by clicking on top of the OSM base map makes
administration to use Google and other other base map providers instead.
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James Livingston writes:
> If you can't produce separate tiles, because rendering requires
> accessing both databases at once, then you essentially have
> combined the two databases together into a new one and are then
> rendering based on that. So would assume in this case you'd have
> to dis
users are supposed to chech such things from
the service metadata. However, WFS services can be used without studying the
metadata throughly. An example of direct data access and the output:
http://188.64.1.61/cgi-bin/tinyows?service=wfs&version=1.1.0&request=getfeature&typename=tow
Hi,
The page
http://www.osmfoundation.org/wiki/Working_Groups#Licensing_Working_Group
suggests that the licensing working group members should be reading posts sent
to a group address le...@osmfoundation.org. Is that address still in use?
-Jukka Rahkonen
National Land Survey wanted only to have this text in the AccessConstraits
" Contains spatial data from the National Land Survey of Finland (NLS)
under NLS open license
http://www.maanmittauslaitos.fi/ilmaisetaineistot "
The license in English is here
http://www.maanmittauslaitos.fi/en/nod
to make it compulsory to read the access constraints before
downloading data?
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r his currently exisiting account as he wishes.
That brings to my mind that how we can ever say in a reliable way who
is an active contributor as defined by the CTs
" An "active contributor" is defined as:
a natural person (whether using a single or multipl
Frederik Ramm writes:
>
> Hi,
>
> On 12/14/10 10:28, Jukka Rahkonen wrote:
> > I do not really believe that the turnout percentage in any OSM poll
would reach
> > 66.7 percent, even if we count just the active contributors.
>
> The turnout percentage in the k
ow we want it to be interpreted and not to ask it afterwards from any English
court.
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Frederik Ramm writes:
> I think you have understood this all right. In my eyes there's a wide
> band between clearly non-copyrightable edits on one side (which we could
> legally keep in OSM even if the person who added them said no - but
> we're unlikely to exercise that right) and edits that
Ed Avis writes:
> Perhaps there should be a meta-contributor-terms where you agree to
> accept future
> contributor terms proposed by the OSMF. Then there wouldn't be the need to
> re-ask everybody each time the contributor terms change.
Insurance companies would love this idea :) However, I c
FS allows users to request just a subset of attributes.
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Clause 3 in CTs says:
" An "active contributor" is defined as:
a contributor natural person (whether using a single or multiple accounts) "
This aims, I suppose, at giving only one vote for each natural person. How could
this be checked? The real identity of contributer has never been asked, all
James Livingston writes:
> On 23/08/2010, at 4:22 PM, Frederik Ramm wrote:
>> Not only the Contributor Terms - the whole project is. Data importing
>> should always be the exception and not the rule.
>
> But is it though? I guess that's the nub of the issue with data imports
> and licensing -
andrzej zaborowski writes:
> That's what I think the plan is. However it is made very difficult by
> the fact that those data providers most likely chose their SA licenses
> in order to be able to use any improvements made on top of their data,
> which we are planning to very soon make impossibl
davespod writes:
> Jukka Rahkonen writes:
>
> >I have understood that uploaded GPS track logs that we have now are
> > effectively public domain. They are facts (even they do not allways
> > tell the truth) and they miss all the creativity so they are not
> > copyri
80n <80n...@...> writes:
> Jukka Rahkonen wrote:
>> I have understood that uploaded GPS track logs that we have now are
>> effectively public domain. They are facts (even they do not allways
>> tell the truth) and they miss all the creativity so they are not
>
TimSC writes:
> Hi all,
>
> Apologies if this has been raised before, but I was wondering about GPS
> track data and licenses. Presumably we are using public GPS trace data
> under CC-BY-SA. By the way, it would be helpful to clarify that on the
> wiki. I'll ignore the problem of tracing oth
80n <80n...@...> writes:
>
> So, without your best endeavours, would you agree that these contributors
would naturally introduce some creativeness? If you have to expend effort to
remove creativity then you have made a pretty good case for the existence of
creativity. Thank you for your testimo
. I think that we must not claim that this kind of work is creative and
copyrightable. That will be used against us and against all the citizens willing
to use geospatial data produced by our administrations. We should show an
example about free geodata, not the opposite.
-Jukka
Oliver (skobbler writes:
> Consequently this means that if you put layer (not an image) of e.g. outlets
> like McDonalds on the map (and fulfill the criteria of substantiability -
> meaning more than 100) than you have to make these outlet database
> available. So far, I was assuming that a layer
Hi,
An "active contributor" is defined as:
a contributor (whether using a single or multiple accounts) who has edited the
Project in any 3 calendar months from the last 6 months (i.e. there is a
demonstrated interest over time).
Out of curiosity, how many do we have?
-Jukk
Iván Sánchez Ortega writes:
> > > From: paul everett
> > > What happens if the user imports an OSM file and I convert it to a
> > > virtual city model ?
>
> Then the city model has to be licensed the same way as the OSM data. At
> least, that is the current interpretation of the license.
B
Hi,
Somebody might get interested in having a look at the business idea of
PublicEarth and their Terms of Use. I feel they won't get very many
places from me.
http://publicearth.com/
http://publicearth.com/terms
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Greg Holloway writes:
>
>
> Hello,I hope i have picked the right list to ask these questions, please alow
me to explain myself;I am a 4x4 off-roader and i have a laptop on the dash of my
vehicle running memory map. I have been searching the internet for cheap &
detailed maps. I have had little
investment for its own term of protection."
Is ODbL going to follow the same rule?
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Mike Collinson writes:
>
> Here is a quick report from the License Working Group as we have been rather
quiet.Since the proposal we made to the OSMF board in August and at SOTM 2009,
we have been working on a number of small issues raised but now getting on track
to make our final formal license
Iván Sánchez Ortega writes:
>
> El Miércoles, 9 de Septiembre de 2009, Jukka Rahkonen escribió:
> > > By the sound of that, it seems that they're joining up the GMaps data and
> > > the OSM data, and filtering out the street names in common.
> >
> > Do
omething wrong in doing so?
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Alex writes:
>
> Hi,
>
> I am developing a Location based application that will both be
> available on mobile devices and on the internet.
>
> I plan to use OSM data, convert it and import it into my custom
> designed database.
> I also plan to generate my own tiles based on OSM data, certainl
writes:
>
> > Dear all,
> >
> > Does incorporating it into something else include adding extra layers of
info over the top, as in a map mashup?
> >
> > Sorry i havnt found it in the historical Q&A s.
Could you clarify a bit? Where did you take the sentence, and what do you want
to do?
Ulf Möller writes:
>
> Jukka Rahkonen schrieb:
>
> > But what if OSMF is changing the license and somebody has
> > managed to base some business on top of derived database
licensed under the old
> > ODbL license? Dou you lawyers say that it is a sound basis
for bu
Frederik Ramm writes:
>
> Now Peter's interpretation is: "Since the licensor has these powers, why
> does not Fred simply take the database, publish a derived version of it
> under ODbL and say "I as the licensor hereby exercise my powers under
> section 4.4.d and decree that PD is a compati
liver vector data in a similar way. How would this machine suit the new
license and definitions of Substantial/Insubstantial and Produced Work?
I am mostly wondering, I do not mean that I consider this as such a threat that
it should be prevented somehow.
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other geospatial data than OSM.
For example Inspire datasets, see annex 1 and 2 in the directive
http://eur-lex.europa.eu/LexUriServ/LexUriServ.do?uri=OJ:L:2007:108:0001:0014:EN:PDF
Probably it will be allowed to take a non-substantial amount of data out of some
of those datasets. How are we
Frederik Ramm writes:
>
> Hi,
>
> Mohamad Ali wrote:
> > 1.We develop a tracking system used for GPS devices, so we display the
> > vehicles on map in real time,..
...
> > My question is : what are the terms and conditions of using ' OpenStreetMap
> > ' for a tracking system?
> > I mean can we
Ciprian Talaba writes:
>
>
> Hi all,
> I know the discussion lately have been towards agreeing about an OSM
> license, and probably this is not the best time to ask this question.
> But I came across Corine Land Cover 2000 datasets and I want to make
> sure that they can be use in OSM. The orga
Peter Miller writes:
> On 9 Mar 2009, at 12:19, Jukka Rahkonen wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > By accident I was just tuning my MapServer and thinking about
> > analogous situations. How about if my WMS server holds both OSM
> > data and some other datasets wi
Simon Ward writes:
>
> On Sun, Mar 01, 2009 at 11:30:41AM -0500, Russ Nelson wrote:
> > Creative Commons license (by-sa). or under the ODbL. If you choose not to
> > give us your email address, or your email address stops working, you
> > waive all right to ownership of your edits.
>
> This n
Jukka Rahkonen writes:
>
> Where actually goes the limit between database and something else? I believe
> that if I convert the data from osm format directly into ESRI Shapefiles then
> I
> do not have a database, or do I? But if I let ArcGIS to store the shapefile
>
Simon Ward writes:
> > The lawyer's answer is: "Need clarification here. From my reading, this
> > example would seem to constitute a Derivative Database under the ODbL."
>
> It’s a database, derived from the original. To me it’s a derived
> database. It does need clarifying to say just that.
Russ Nelson writes:
> > or since the original imagery is available from somewhere as PD just
> > bypassing any doubt and go upstream.
>
> Haven't been able to find an alternative source. Suggestions
> appreciated.
http://seamless.usgs.gov/website/seamless/viewer.htm
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Russ Nelson writes:
>
> Is it okay to trace into OSM from the public-domain USGS Topographic
> and DOQ (Digital Orthographic Quads) aerial imagery? I think the
> answer there should be clearly "yes".
>
Why not to ask directly from USGS about this and what they mean with their text
"A coop
haps somebody will say
that even your feedback system itself does not show OSM data, the error was
maybe still noticed by comparing POIs with OSM data. It would be better to have
some other procedure that is separated from map application for updating the POI
da
SteveC <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> Guys OSM isn't going PD... can't you go start
> ReallyFreeAndOpenStreetMap.org or something?
>
> Best
>
> Steve
It would be annoying to contribute first to PD and then separately to
OpenStreetMap-share alike, but I am not astonished if that will be the
Lauri Hahne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> 2008/8/5 Gustav Foseid <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > - In addition to protection as individual photographs, the database of the
> > photographs has database protection. The traces (KMZz) would, however, not
> > be part of the database and not be protected a
Frederik Ramm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Jukka Rahkonen wrote:
>
> > Then in another place you can read:
> > "The information available in these data is under copyright of the
> > EEA and within the public domain. Public domain information in this
> &
ne
call to EEA and asks if it is OK to use the data in OSM or not.
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