Re: [lfs-dev] Are we ready for LFS-7.5?

2014-03-02 Thread Alice Wonder
On Sun, 2014-03-02 at 03:06 +0100, Armin K. wrote: > > It is. Package ships *.la file that depends on another *.la file which > no package ships that the former one depends on. Packaging error. Indeed, Fedora quite some time ago stopped shipping libtool .la files because of how frequently they

Re: [lfs-dev] Are we ready for LFS-7.5?

2014-03-02 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Alice Wonder wrote: > On Sun, 2014-03-02 at 03:06 +0100, Armin K. wrote: > >> >> It is. Package ships *.la file that depends on another *.la file which >> no package ships that the former one depends on. Packaging error. > > Indeed, Fedora quite some time ago stopped shipping libtool .la files > be

Re: [lfs-dev] gcc pass 1/2 instructions re mpfr/gmp/mpc.

2014-03-02 Thread Pierre Labastie
Le 02/03/2014 02:35, akhiezer a écrit : >> Date: Sat, 01 Mar 2014 18:17:42 -0600 >> From: Bruce Dubbs >> To: LFS Developers Mailinglist >> Subject: Re: [lfs-dev] gcc pass 1/2 instructions re mpfr/gmp/mpc. >> >> akhiezer wrote: Date: Sat, 01 Mar 2014 17:04:38 -0600 From: Bruce Dubbs >>>

Re: [lfs-dev] Are we ready for LFS-7.5?

2014-03-02 Thread Fernando de Oliveira
Em 02-03-2014 05:29, Bruce Dubbs escreveu: > Alice Wonder wrote: >> On Sun, 2014-03-02 at 03:06 +0100, Armin K. wrote: >> >>> >>> It is. Package ships *.la file that depends on another *.la file which >>> no package ships that the former one depends on. Packaging error. >> >> Indeed, Fedora quite s

Re: [lfs-dev] Are we ready for LFS-7.5?

2014-03-02 Thread akhiezer
> Date: Sun, 02 Mar 2014 03:06:12 +0100 > From: "Armin K." > To: LFS Developers Mailinglist > Subject: Re: [lfs-dev] Are we ready for LFS-7.5? > . . > > I've just started sendmail. Actually I'm most interested in getting the > slackware issue settled for LFS. That

Re: [lfs-dev] Are we ready for LFS-7.5?

2014-03-02 Thread akhiezer
> Date: Sat, 01 Mar 2014 20:33:55 -0600 > From: Bruce Dubbs > To: LFS Developers Mailinglist > Subject: Re: [lfs-dev] Are we ready for LFS-7.5? > > Armin K. wrote: > > On 2.3.2014 2:55, akhiezer wrote: > > Why should we care when it's a distribution issue? Every "sane" distro > > >> It's not

Re: [lfs-dev] Are we ready for LFS-7.5?

2014-03-02 Thread Armin K.
On 03/02/2014 09:29 AM, Bruce Dubbs wrote: > Alice Wonder wrote: >> On Sun, 2014-03-02 at 03:06 +0100, Armin K. wrote: >> >>> >>> It is. Package ships *.la file that depends on another *.la file which >>> no package ships that the former one depends on. Packaging error. >> >> Indeed, Fedora quite s

Re: [lfs-dev] Are we ready for LFS-7.5?

2014-03-02 Thread Armin K.
On 03/02/2014 08:55 AM, Bruce Dubbs wrote: > Bruce Dubbs wrote: >> Armin K. wrote: >>> On 2.3.2014 2:55, akhiezer wrote: >> >> Why should we care when it's a distribution issue? Every "sane" distro >> It's not a 'distribution issue': you're wrong. >> >>> It is. Package ships *.la file that

Re: [lfs-dev] Are we ready for LFS-7.5?

2014-03-02 Thread Armin K.
On 03/02/2014 01:38 PM, akhiezer wrote: >> Date: Sun, 02 Mar 2014 03:06:12 +0100 >> From: "Armin K." >> To: LFS Developers Mailinglist >> Subject: Re: [lfs-dev] Are we ready for LFS-7.5? >> > . > . >> >> I've just started sendmail. Actually I'm most interested in getting the

Re: [lfs-dev] Are we ready for LFS-7.5?

2014-03-02 Thread akhiezer
> Date: Sun, 02 Mar 2014 01:55:54 -0600 > From: Bruce Dubbs > To: LFS Developers Mailinglist > Subject: Re: [lfs-dev] Are we ready for LFS-7.5? > . . > I think I have the test for version-check.sh: > > for lib in lib{gmp,mpfr,mpc}.so; do >echo $lib: $(if find /usr/lib* -name $

[lfs-dev] LFS-7.5 5.6. Linux-3.13.3 API Headers

2014-03-02 Thread baho utot
Why is the installation of the headers in the book like this make INSTALL_HDR_PATH=dest headers_install cp -rv dest/include/* /tools/include instead of make INSTALL_HDR_PATH=/tools/include headers_install ?? Would the latter be "just the same" or am I missing something here? -- http://linux

Re: [lfs-dev] LFS-7.5 5.6. Linux-3.13.3 API Headers

2014-03-02 Thread thomas
Am Sonntag, den 02.03.2014, 08:36 -0500 schrieb baho utot: > Why is the installation of the headers in the book like this > > make INSTALL_HDR_PATH=dest headers_install > cp -rv dest/include/* /tools/include > > instead of > > make INSTALL_HDR_PATH=/tools/include headers_install if at all, than

Re: [lfs-dev] LFS-7.5 5.6. Linux-3.13.3 API Headers

2014-03-02 Thread baho utot
On 03/02/2014 09:22 AM, thomas wrote: > Am Sonntag, den 02.03.2014, 08:36 -0500 schrieb baho utot: >> Why is the installation of the headers in the book like this >> >> make INSTALL_HDR_PATH=dest headers_install >> cp -rv dest/include/* /tools/include >> >> instead of >> >> make INSTALL_HDR_PATH=/

Re: [lfs-dev] Are we ready for LFS-7.5?

2014-03-02 Thread akhiezer
> Date: Sun, 02 Mar 2014 01:55:54 -0600 > From: Bruce Dubbs > To: LFS Developers Mailinglist > Subject: Re: [lfs-dev] Are we ready for LFS-7.5? > . . > I think I have the test for version-check.sh: > > for lib in lib{gmp,mpfr,mpc}.so; do >echo $lib: $(if find /usr/lib* -name $

Re: [lfs-dev] gcc pass 1/2 instructions re mpfr/gmp/mpc.

2014-03-02 Thread akhiezer
> Date: Sun, 02 Mar 2014 11:11:50 +0100 > From: Pierre Labastie > To: LFS Developers Mailinglist > Subject: Re: [lfs-dev] gcc pass 1/2 instructions re mpfr/gmp/mpc. > . . > > But useless!!! > Thanks for the reminder and re-pointing to .la ;] . > lib{gmp,mpfr,mpc}.so

Re: [lfs-dev] LFS-7.5 5.6. Linux-3.13.3 API Headers

2014-03-02 Thread William Harrington
On Mar 2, 2014, at 8:22 AM, thomas wrote: > If I remember right, at least in previous versions of the kernel > sources > the target directory had been cleared before the headers were written. > That would be no good for the /tools/include dir but meaningless for > the > newly created "dest" d

Re: [lfs-dev] Are we ready for LFS-7.5?

2014-03-02 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Armin K. wrote: > On 03/02/2014 09:29 AM, Bruce Dubbs wrote: >> Alice Wonder wrote: >>> On Sun, 2014-03-02 at 03:06 +0100, Armin K. wrote: >>> It is. Package ships *.la file that depends on another *.la file which no package ships that the former one depends on. Packaging error. >>>

Re: [lfs-dev] Are we ready for LFS-7.5?

2014-03-02 Thread Bruce Dubbs
After a fairly extensive discussion, I've update the host system requirements page in svn: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/view/development/prologue/hostreqs.html I considered an erratum, but we really don't want to be put in the position of having to bring it forward for each release. Wha

Re: [lfs-dev] Are we ready for LFS-7.5?

2014-03-02 Thread Bryan Kadzban
Armin K. wrote: > No matter what you say, if a package A installs a file X.Y that requires > file Z.Y and package A doesn't either: > > a) pull automatically the package (depend on) that contains file Z.Y > b)ships that file itself > > the packaging is broken. Then BLFS's and LFS's "packaging"

Re: [lfs-dev] Are we ready for LFS-7.5?

2014-03-02 Thread Bryan Kadzban
Bruce Dubbs wrote: > After a fairly extensive discussion, I've update the host system > requirements page in svn: > > http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/view/development/prologue/hostreqs.html Looks reasonable to me, unless we want to take lib64 / lib32 into account, rather than just lib. I'd

Re: [lfs-dev] Are we ready for LFS-7.5?

2014-03-02 Thread Bryan Kadzban
Bryan Kadzban wrote: > Bruce Dubbs wrote: >> After a fairly extensive discussion, I've update the host system >> requirements page in svn: >> >> http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/view/development/prologue/hostreqs.html > > Looks reasonable to me, unless we want to take lib64 / lib32 into accou

Re: [lfs-dev] Are we ready for LFS-7.5?

2014-03-02 Thread Armin K.
On 03/02/2014 08:05 PM, Bryan Kadzban wrote: > Armin K. wrote: >> No matter what you say, if a package A installs a file X.Y that requires >> file Z.Y and package A doesn't either: >> >> a) pull automatically the package (depend on) that contains file Z.Y >> b)ships that file itself >> >> the pack

Re: [lfs-dev] Are we ready for LFS-7.5?

2014-03-02 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Bryan Kadzban wrote: > Bryan Kadzban wrote: >> Bruce Dubbs wrote: >>> After a fairly extensive discussion, I've update the host system >>> requirements page in svn: >>> >>> http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/view/development/prologue/hostreqs.html >> >> Looks reasonable to me, unless we want to ta

Re: [lfs-dev] LFS-7.5 5.6. Linux-3.13.3 API Headers

2014-03-02 Thread baho utot
On 03/02/2014 10:13 AM, William Harrington wrote: > On Mar 2, 2014, at 8:22 AM, thomas wrote: > >> If I remember right, at least in previous versions of the kernel >> sources >> the target directory had been cleared before the headers were written. >> That would be no good for the /tools/include d

Re: [lfs-dev] Are we ready for LFS-7.5?

2014-03-02 Thread akhiezer
> Date: Sun, 02 Mar 2014 12:36:34 -0600 > From: Bruce Dubbs > To: LFS Developers Mailinglist > Subject: Re: [lfs-dev] Are we ready for LFS-7.5? > > After a fairly extensive discussion, I've update the host system > requirements page in svn: > > http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/view/developmen

Re: [lfs-dev] Are we ready for LFS-7.5?

2014-03-02 Thread Gregory H. Nietsky
On 02/03/2014 22:00, akhiezer wrote: >> Date: Sun, 02 Mar 2014 12:36:34 -0600 >> From: Bruce Dubbs >> To: LFS Developers Mailinglist >> Subject: Re: [lfs-dev] Are we ready for LFS-7.5? >> >> After a fairly extensive discussion, I've update the host system >> requirements page in svn: >> >> http:

Re: [lfs-dev] Are we ready for LFS-7.5?

2014-03-02 Thread Bruce Dubbs
akhiezer wrote: >> Date: Sun, 02 Mar 2014 12:36:34 -0600 >> From: Bruce Dubbs >> To: LFS Developers Mailinglist >> Subject: Re: [lfs-dev] Are we ready for LFS-7.5? >> >> After a fairly extensive discussion, I've update the host system >> requirements page in svn: >> >> http://www.linuxfromscratch

Re: [lfs-dev] Are we ready for LFS-7.5?

2014-03-02 Thread akhiezer
> Date: Sun, 02 Mar 2014 14:27:05 -0600 > From: Bruce Dubbs > To: LFS Developers Mailinglist > Subject: Re: [lfs-dev] Are we ready for LFS-7.5? > > >> After a fairly extensive discussion, I've update the host system > >> requirements page in svn: > >> > >> http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/view

Re: [lfs-dev] Are we ready for LFS-7.5?

2014-03-02 Thread Pierre Labastie
Le 02/03/2014 21:00, akhiezer a écrit : >> Date: Sun, 02 Mar 2014 12:36:34 -0600 >> From: Bruce Dubbs >> To: LFS Developers Mailinglist >> Subject: Re: [lfs-dev] Are we ready for LFS-7.5? >> >> After a fairly extensive discussion, I've update the host system >> requirements page in svn: >> >> ht

[lfs-dev] LFS-7.5 is released

2014-03-02 Thread Bruce Dubbs
The Linux From Scratch community is pleased to announce the release of LFS Version 7.5. This release includes numerous changes to LFS-7.4 (including updates to Linux-3.13.3, GCC-4.8.2, Glibc-2.19, binutils-2.24) and security fixes. It also includes editorial work on the explanatory material thro

[lfs-dev] linux-3.13.5

2014-03-02 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Ken, You mentioned a problem with linux-3.13.5. Can you explain your issues with that version? -- Bruce -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/faq/ Unsubscribe: See the above information page

[lfs-dev] LFS systemd 7.5 is out

2014-03-02 Thread Armin K.
I am pleased to announce the first stable release of the Linux From Scratch book that is using systemd as the init system. For a quick summary about differences between this and the official LFS book see the first release candidate announcement[1]. The book can be read online[2] or downloaded[3]

Re: [lfs-dev] LFS-7.5 is released

2014-03-02 Thread Randy McMurchy
On 3/2/2014 4:31 PM, Bruce Dubbs wrote: > The Linux From Scratch community is pleased to announce the release of > LFS Version 7.5. > [snip] I would like to say that it pleases me that the LFS community is as active as it is, and congratulations on another release of this fine product. LFS is as a

Re: [lfs-dev] linux-3.13.5

2014-03-02 Thread Ken Moffat
On Sun, Mar 02, 2014 at 05:47:36PM -0600, Bruce Dubbs wrote: > Ken, You mentioned a problem with linux-3.13.5. Can you explain your > issues with that version? > >-- Bruce Ah! I've just put a short summary in my reply to you re libexecdir on blfs-dev. Here's a MUCH fuller one: I built

Re: [lfs-dev] linux-3.13.5

2014-03-02 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Ken Moffat wrote: > On Sun, Mar 02, 2014 at 05:47:36PM -0600, Bruce Dubbs wrote: >> Ken, You mentioned a problem with linux-3.13.5. Can you explain your >> issues with that version? >> >> -- Bruce > > Ah! I've just put a short summary in my reply to you re libexecdir > on blfs-dev. Here's

Re: [lfs-dev] linux-3.13.5

2014-03-02 Thread Bryan Kadzban
Ken Moffat wrote: > When I woke up in the > morning, I was surprised to find that my OpenJDK script was still running > rm -rf for the source directory, and had been doing so for more than 5 > hours (both wall-clock time and CPU time), and was now at 99%-100% of one > CPU, according to top. ...Odd