Re: [lfs-dev] ANNOUNCEMENT - Major Proposed Changes to LFS

2020-06-18 Thread Bruce Dubbs via lfs-dev
On 6/18/20 2:15 AM, Pierre Labastie via lfs-dev wrote: Thanks. This is "just" a typo here, but I guess we'll find some more errors: a big rewrite like that implies two very different tasks: - make the instructions work (lot of trial and error) - keep the text in sync with the instructions (not a

Re: [lfs-dev] ANNOUNCEMENT - Major Proposed Changes to LFS

2020-06-18 Thread Kevin Buckley via lfs-dev
On Thu, 18 Jun 2020 at 15:16, Pierre Labastie via lfs-dev wrote: > > Why "environment"? I'm not sure here. I wasn't sure either. Was probably taking my cue from "7.4. Entering the Chroot Environment " > We really save the tools. > And what we "clean up" is not really an environment (rather we

Re: [lfs-dev] ANNOUNCEMENT - Major Proposed Changes to LFS

2020-06-18 Thread Pierre Labastie via lfs-dev
On Thu, 2020-06-18 at 12:37 +0800, Kevin Buckley via lfs-dev wrote: > On Wed, 17 Jun 2020 at 22:01, Pierre Labastie via lfs-dev > wrote: > > Please tell us what you think of: > > http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/~pierre/lfs-svn/index.html > > (I've not bee able to remove the latin numbering in the

Re: [lfs-dev] ANNOUNCEMENT - Major Proposed Changes to LFS

2020-06-17 Thread Kevin Buckley via lfs-dev
On Wed, 17 Jun 2020 at 22:01, Pierre Labastie via lfs-dev wrote: > > Please tell us what you think of: > http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/~pierre/lfs-svn/index.html > (I've not bee able to remove the latin numbering in the "Preliminary > material") Seems a much better separation of the "introducto

Re: [lfs-dev] ANNOUNCEMENT - Major Proposed Changes to LFS

2020-06-17 Thread Pierre Labastie via lfs-dev
On Tue, 2020-06-16 at 19:58 +0800, Kevin Buckley via lfs-dev wrote: > On Mon, 15 Jun 2020 at 20:01, Bruce Dubbs via lfs-dev > wrote: > > > I'd like to see the "cross-compiling 101" sections, so > > > > > > Introduction > > > Toolchain Technical Notes > > > General Compilation Instructions > > >

Re: [lfs-dev] ANNOUNCEMENT - Major Proposed Changes to LFS

2020-06-16 Thread Kevin Buckley via lfs-dev
On Mon, 15 Jun 2020 at 20:01, Bruce Dubbs via lfs-dev wrote: > > > I'd like to see the "cross-compiling 101" sections, so > > > > Introduction > > Toolchain Technical Notes > > General Compilation Instructions > > > > in "chapter" 5, separated out from the package build sections there. > > We can

Re: [lfs-dev] ANNOUNCEMENT - Major Proposed Changes to LFS

2020-06-15 Thread Pierre Labastie via lfs-dev
On Mon, 2020-06-15 at 19:28 +0800, Kevin Buckley via lfs-dev wrote: > On Mon, 15 Jun 2020 at 18:34, Pierre Labastie via lfs-dev > wrote: > > OTOH, personally, I like meson/ninja. I wish it were used more > > often. > > They have nothing to do with systemd. > > For some reason, I had thought that

Re: [lfs-dev] ANNOUNCEMENT - Major Proposed Changes to LFS

2020-06-15 Thread Bruce Dubbs via lfs-dev
On 6/15/20 6:28 AM, Kevin Buckley via lfs-dev wrote: Might I playfully suggest that LFS should find a package that could optionally be built with CMake, so as to introduce new readers to that build system here too, rather than making them wait for that joy in BLFS. It has been considered, but

Re: [lfs-dev] ANNOUNCEMENT - Major Proposed Changes to LFS

2020-06-15 Thread Bruce Dubbs via lfs-dev
On 6/15/20 2:09 AM, Kevin Buckley via lfs-dev wrote: On Sat, 13 Jun 2020 at 20:46, Bruce Dubbs via lfs-dev wrote: In the last few weeks, the LFS editors have been working on a major overhaul of LFS. This work can be reviewed at http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/~bdubbs/cross2-lfs-book/ Was

Re: [lfs-dev] ANNOUNCEMENT - Major Proposed Changes to LFS

2020-06-15 Thread Kevin Buckley via lfs-dev
On Mon, 15 Jun 2020 at 18:34, Pierre Labastie via lfs-dev wrote: > > OTOH, personally, I like meson/ninja. I wish it were used more often. > They have nothing to do with systemd. For some reason, I had thought that there was a package in the SysD build that was "so new" that it had never had an a

Re: [lfs-dev] ANNOUNCEMENT - Major Proposed Changes to LFS

2020-06-15 Thread Pierre Labastie via lfs-dev
On Mon, 2020-06-15 at 15:09 +0800, Kevin Buckley via lfs-dev wrote: > On Sat, 13 Jun 2020 at 20:46, Bruce Dubbs via lfs-dev > wrote: > > In the last few weeks, the LFS editors have been working on a major > > overhaul of LFS. This work can be reviewed at > > > > http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/~

Re: [lfs-dev] ANNOUNCEMENT - Major Proposed Changes to LFS

2020-06-15 Thread Xi Ruoyao via lfs-dev
On 2020-06-15 15:09 +0800, Kevin Buckley via lfs-dev wrote: > On Sat, 13 Jun 2020 at 20:46, Bruce Dubbs via lfs-dev > wrote: > > In the last few weeks, the LFS editors have been working on a major > > overhaul of LFS. This work can be reviewed at > > > > http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/~bdubbs/c

Re: [lfs-dev] ANNOUNCEMENT - Major Proposed Changes to LFS

2020-06-15 Thread Kevin Buckley via lfs-dev
On Sat, 13 Jun 2020 at 20:46, Bruce Dubbs via lfs-dev wrote: > > In the last few weeks, the LFS editors have been working on a major > overhaul of LFS. This work can be reviewed at > > http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/~bdubbs/cross2-lfs-book/ > Was there an SVN reference (branch) to pull the sour

Re: [lfs-dev] ANNOUNCEMENT - Major Proposed Changes to LFS

2020-06-14 Thread Joe Locash via lfs-dev
On Jun 14, 2020 9:35 AM, "Pierre Labastie via lfs-dev" < lfs-dev@lists.linuxfromscratch.org> wrote: > > Hmm, having iana-etc does not change anything to the > "22_locale/time_get/..." failures, and there is still one > failure in experimental/net/internet/resolver, even with a real > /etc/host inst

Re: [lfs-dev] ANNOUNCEMENT - Major Proposed Changes to LFS

2020-06-14 Thread Bruce Dubbs via lfs-dev
On 6/14/20 11:41 AM, Xi Ruoyao via lfs-dev wrote: On 2020-06-14 10:49 -0500, Bruce Dubbs via lfs-dev wrote: On 6/14/20 8:35 AM, Pierre Labastie via lfs-dev wrote: On Sun, 2020-06-14 at 15:15 +0200, Pierre Labastie via lfs-dev wrote: I am currently testing whether moving iana-etc before gcc may

Re: [lfs-dev] ANNOUNCEMENT - Major Proposed Changes to LFS

2020-06-14 Thread Xi Ruoyao via lfs-dev
On 2020-06-14 10:49 -0500, Bruce Dubbs via lfs-dev wrote: > On 6/14/20 8:35 AM, Pierre Labastie via lfs-dev wrote: > > On Sun, 2020-06-14 at 15:15 +0200, Pierre Labastie via lfs-dev wrote: > > > I am currently testing whether moving iana-etc before gcc may allow > > > tests to pass, as reported by

Re: [lfs-dev] ANNOUNCEMENT - Major Proposed Changes to LFS

2020-06-14 Thread Bruce Dubbs via lfs-dev
On 6/14/20 8:35 AM, Pierre Labastie via lfs-dev wrote: On Sun, 2020-06-14 at 15:15 +0200, Pierre Labastie via lfs-dev wrote: I am currently testing whether moving iana-etc before gcc may allow tests to pass, as reported by Joe Locash. If so, I'll commit it. Hmm, having iana-etc does not chan

Re: [lfs-dev] ANNOUNCEMENT - Major Proposed Changes to LFS

2020-06-14 Thread Pierre Labastie via lfs-dev
On Sun, 2020-06-14 at 22:03 +0800, Xi Ruoyao via lfs-dev wrote: > On 2020-06-14 15:35 +0200, Pierre Labastie via lfs-dev wrote: > > On Sun, 2020-06-14 at 15:15 +0200, Pierre Labastie via lfs-dev > > wrote: > > > I am currently testing whether moving iana-etc before gcc may > > > allow > > > tests t

Re: [lfs-dev] ANNOUNCEMENT - Major Proposed Changes to LFS

2020-06-14 Thread Xi Ruoyao via lfs-dev
On 2020-06-14 15:35 +0200, Pierre Labastie via lfs-dev wrote: > On Sun, 2020-06-14 at 15:15 +0200, Pierre Labastie via lfs-dev wrote: > > I am currently testing whether moving iana-etc before gcc may allow > > tests to pass, as reported by Joe Locash. If so, I'll commit it. > > > > Hmm, having ia

Re: [lfs-dev] ANNOUNCEMENT - Major Proposed Changes to LFS

2020-06-14 Thread Pierre Labastie via lfs-dev
On Sun, 2020-06-14 at 15:15 +0200, Pierre Labastie via lfs-dev wrote: > > I am currently testing whether moving iana-etc before gcc may allow > tests to pass, as reported by Joe Locash. If so, I'll commit it. > Hmm, having iana-etc does not change anything to the "22_locale/time_get/..." failure

Re: [lfs-dev] ANNOUNCEMENT - Major Proposed Changes to LFS

2020-06-14 Thread Pierre Labastie via lfs-dev
On Sat, 2020-06-13 at 15:10 +0100, spiky via lfs-dev wrote: > On 13/06/2020 13:46, Bruce Dubbs via lfs-dev wrote: > > In the last few weeks, the LFS editors have been working on a > > major > > overhaul of LFS. This work can be reviewed at > > > > http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/~bdubbs/cross2-l

Re: [lfs-dev] ANNOUNCEMENT - Major Proposed Changes to LFS

2020-06-13 Thread Joe Locash via lfs-dev
On Jun 13, 2020 8:46 AM, "Bruce Dubbs via lfs-dev" < lfs-dev@lists.linuxfromscratch.org> wrote: > > In the last few weeks, the LFS editors have been working on a major overhaul of LFS. This work can be reviewed at > > http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/~bdubbs/cross2-lfs-book/ Bruce, Can you make

Re: [lfs-dev] ANNOUNCEMENT - Major Proposed Changes to LFS

2020-06-13 Thread spiky via lfs-dev
On 13/06/2020 13:46, Bruce Dubbs via lfs-dev wrote: In the last few weeks, the LFS editors have been working on a major overhaul of LFS.  This work can be reviewed at http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/~bdubbs/cross2-lfs-book/ The elements of building LFS using cross compiling techniques have c

[lfs-dev] ANNOUNCEMENT - Major Proposed Changes to LFS

2020-06-13 Thread Bruce Dubbs via lfs-dev
In the last few weeks, the LFS editors have been working on a major overhaul of LFS. This work can be reviewed at http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/~bdubbs/cross2-lfs-book/ The elements of building LFS using cross compiling techniques have changed a lot. The old Chapter 5 has been split into t