Re: Partition Sizes, AGAIN!

2010-03-06 Thread Andrew Benton
On 06/03/10 05:10, Simon Geard wrote: On Thu, 2010-03-04 at 23:38 -0600, Mike McCarty wrote: Great! However, is that the max that was needed during the build? No idea, but if that full installation comes in at 3.6Gb, it's unlikely that any single package would have pushed it over 5Gb during

Re: partition sizes

2010-03-06 Thread David Shaw
Simon Geard wrote: On Fri, 2010-03-05 at 09:23 +, David Shaw wrote: I vaguely remember reading somewhere that, if you use hibernation, your computer's state is stored to the swap space. So, if you have 2GB of RAM and only 1GB of swap then hibernate would fail. Of course, I could

Re: partition sizes

2010-03-05 Thread David Shaw
Simon Geard wrote: On Thu, 2010-03-04 at 12:38 -0600, Mike McCarty wrote: I've got a question about this. Why bother with a swap partition? AIUI, with 2.6 kernels, using a swap file is as fast as using a swap partition, and it is certainly more flexible to modify later. Relevant

Re: Partition Sizes, AGAIN!

2010-03-05 Thread Baho Utot
Mike McCarty wrote: Baho Utot wrote: [putolin] I use a boot partition and this layout $ ls /boot LFS-6.5/ Slack-x86-crypt/ Slackware-13.0-x86/ grub/ lost+found/ If /boot is an ordinary directory under /, and not a mount point, then one needs to modify the MBR to point to the place

Re: Partition Sizes, AGAIN!

2010-03-05 Thread Andrew Benton
On 05/03/10 00:11, Baho Utot wrote: Andrew Benton wrote: I keep my kernel in /home/boot, along with all grub's files, so that if I boot into one LFS partition or the other I can use the same kernel and I never need to use grub to rewrite the MBR I don't understand how that helps It

Re: partition sizes

2010-03-05 Thread Mike McCarty
David Shaw wrote: Simon Geard wrote: I vaguely remember reading somewhere that, if you use hibernation, your computer's state is stored to the swap space. So, if you have 2GB of RAM and only 1GB of swap then hibernate would fail. That is my understanding, as well. Of course, I could

Re: Partition Sizes, AGAIN!

2010-03-05 Thread Mike McCarty
Baho Utot wrote: Mike McCarty wrote: Baho Utot wrote: [putolin] I use a boot partition and this layout $ ls /boot LFS-6.5/ Slack-x86-crypt/ Slackware-13.0-x86/ grub/ lost+found/ If /boot is an ordinary directory under /, and not a mount point, then one needs to modify the MBR

Re: Partition Sizes, AGAIN!

2010-03-05 Thread Dominic Ringuet
It's all a matter of taste. You could put an extra buck to get an other disk on the secondary ide controller. hda 40g hdb cdrom hdc 40g (might be something else) hdd cdrom With only 192mb RAM and LFS in mind, you'll need lots of swap; the magnitude being around 2.5gb. For this purpose, the

Re: Partition Sizes, AGAIN!

2010-03-05 Thread Simon Geard
On Thu, 2010-03-04 at 23:38 -0600, Mike McCarty wrote: Simon Geard wrote: On Thu, 2010-03-04 at 13:13 -0600, Mike McCarty wrote: Does the build partition really need to be 10G? Would 5G be enough to build a new BLFS with smallish desktop, like fluxbox, not a big GNOME or KDE? If so, then

Re: partition sizes

2010-03-05 Thread Simon Geard
On Fri, 2010-03-05 at 09:23 +, David Shaw wrote: I vaguely remember reading somewhere that, if you use hibernation, your computer's state is stored to the swap space. So, if you have 2GB of RAM and only 1GB of swap then hibernate would fail. Of course, I could have got totally the

Re: partition sizes

2010-03-04 Thread Mike McCarty
Simon Geard wrote: [...] For what it's worth, my disk layout looks something like: /dev/sda1 - /boot, 100Mb. Allows me to keep bootloader config independent of the actual OS installs. /dev/sda2 - swap, 2Gb. I've got a question about this. Why bother with a swap partition? AIUI, with

Partition Sizes, AGAIN!

2010-03-04 Thread Mike McCarty
I'm a laid off engineer on a zero income budget, so $$$ are a prime consideration. I bought a basic system for $1 at at swap meet. It had no hard drive, and a burnt out power supply, and only 64M of RAM. I've added another 128M of RAM from a junker, and transplanted a PS from another machine, and

Re: partition sizes

2010-03-04 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Mike McCarty wrote: I've got a question about this. Why bother with a swap partition? AIUI, with 2.6 kernels, using a swap file is as fast as using a swap partition, and it is certainly more flexible to modify later. That's certainly your choice. The only problem is that if you run out of

Re: partition sizes

2010-03-04 Thread Mike McCarty
Bruce Dubbs wrote: Mike McCarty wrote: I've got a question about this. Why bother with a swap partition? AIUI, with 2.6 kernels, using a swap file is as fast as using a swap partition, and it is certainly more flexible to modify later. That's certainly your choice. The only problem is

Re: Partition Sizes, AGAIN!

2010-03-04 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Mike McCarty wrote: Does the build partition really need to be 10G? For LFS alone, no. A few years ago we checked it and determined the minimum size would be 1.3G, but that has probably grown. I've not tested it, but I suspect that you can get by with 2G fairly easily, but that doesn't

Re: Partition Sizes, AGAIN!

2010-03-04 Thread Andrew Benton
On 04/03/10 19:13, Mike McCarty wrote: I'm a laid off engineer on a zero income budget, so $$$ are a prime consideration. I bought a basic system for $1 at at swap meet. It had no hard drive, and a burnt out power supply, and only 64M of RAM. I've added another 128M of RAM from a junker, and

Re: Partition Sizes, AGAIN!

2010-03-04 Thread Mike McCarty
Andrew Benton wrote: On 04/03/10 19:13, Mike McCarty wrote: [...] Here's my initial thoughts... prtn sizemount point --- hda1 100M/boot hda2 10G / (main) hda3 10G / (build) hda5 20G /home If you've only got 128M of RAM you'll need

Re: partition sizes

2010-03-04 Thread linux fan
On 2/16/10, Ken Moffat zarniwhoo...@googlemail.com wrote: I tend to use 5GB or less for a desktop system. If you plan to build *all* of gnome, or *all* of kde, that probably isn't enough space, but in my case I'd probably put /boot (100MB is big), swap if any, and 2 or 3 versions of '/' on

Re: Partition Sizes, AGAIN!

2010-03-04 Thread Mike McCarty
Johnneylee Rollins wrote: On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 12:13 PM, Mike McCarty mike.mcca...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Andrew Benton wrote: On 04/03/10 19:13, Mike McCarty wrote: [...] Here's my initial thoughts... prtn sizemount point --- hda1 100M/boot hda2 10G /

Re: Partition Sizes, AGAIN!

2010-03-04 Thread stosss
On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 3:45 PM, Mike McCarty mike.mcca...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Johnneylee Rollins wrote: On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 12:13 PM, Mike McCarty mike.mcca...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Andrew Benton wrote: On 04/03/10 19:13, Mike McCarty wrote: [...] Here's my initial thoughts... prtn

Re: Partition Sizes, AGAIN!

2010-03-04 Thread Andrew Benton
On 04/03/10 20:13, Mike McCarty wrote: Andrew Benton wrote: I use one partition for both /home and /boot. IE, /boot is a symbolic link pointing at /home/boot Why not just use an ordinary directory for /boot, then? Is there something I don't know? I keep my kernel in /home/boot, along with

Re: Partition Sizes, AGAIN!

2010-03-04 Thread Mike McCarty
stosss wrote: On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 3:45 PM, Mike McCarty mike.mcca...@sbcglobal.net wrote: I want to put it where each bootable version can access it. I don't want to carve 1G out of each of the partitions, so /home/swap is a reasonable compromise. Each partition then has /swap as a

Re: Partition Sizes, AGAIN!

2010-03-04 Thread Mike McCarty
Andrew Benton wrote: On 04/03/10 20:13, Mike McCarty wrote: Andrew Benton wrote: I use one partition for both /home and /boot. IE, /boot is a symbolic link pointing at /home/boot Why not just use an ordinary directory for /boot, then? Is there something I don't know? I keep my kernel in

Re: Partition Sizes, AGAIN!

2010-03-04 Thread stosss
On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 4:39 PM, Mike McCarty mike.mcca...@sbcglobal.net wrote: stosss wrote: On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 3:45 PM, Mike McCarty mike.mcca...@sbcglobal.net wrote: I want to put it where each bootable version can access it. I don't want to carve 1G out of each of the partitions, so

Re: Partition Sizes, AGAIN!

2010-03-04 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Mike McCarty wrote: Andrew Benton wrote: On 04/03/10 20:13, Mike McCarty wrote: Andrew Benton wrote: I use one partition for both /home and /boot. IE, /boot is a symbolic link pointing at /home/boot Why not just use an ordinary directory for /boot, then? Is there something I don't know? I

Re: Partition Sizes, AGAIN!

2010-03-04 Thread Mike McCarty
stosss wrote: On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 4:39 PM, Mike McCarty mike.mcca...@sbcglobal.net wrote: stosss wrote: On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 3:45 PM, Mike McCarty mike.mcca...@sbcglobal.net wrote: If I understand you, that carves 1G out of each of the system partitions. If the swap file is on the

Re: Partition Sizes, AGAIN!

2010-03-04 Thread Mike McCarty
Bruce Dubbs wrote: Mike, I don't understand your dislike for separate /boot and swap partitions. They are not large and really don't need to change once set up properly. I don't dislike a separate /boot partition. I like that, and I like it near the beginning of the disc. I don't like a

Re: Partition Sizes, AGAIN!

2010-03-04 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Mike McCarty wrote: I don't like a separate swap partition, because it's difficult to resize, and the information I have is that with 2.6 kernels a swap file is as fast as a separate partition, and much easier to resize. Interesting. I've never had to resize a swap partition. I generally

Re: Partition Sizes, AGAIN!

2010-03-04 Thread Baho Utot
Andrew Benton wrote: On 04/03/10 20:13, Mike McCarty wrote: Andrew Benton wrote: I use one partition for both /home and /boot. IE, /boot is a symbolic link pointing at /home/boot Why not just use an ordinary directory for /boot, then? Is there something I don't know?

Re: Partition Sizes, AGAIN!

2010-03-04 Thread Baho Utot
Bruce Dubbs wrote: Mike McCarty wrote: I don't like a separate swap partition, because it's difficult to resize, and the information I have is that with 2.6 kernels a swap file is as fast as a separate partition, and much easier to resize. Interesting. I've never had to resize a

Re: Partition Sizes, AGAIN!

2010-03-04 Thread Mike McCarty
Bruce Dubbs wrote: Mike McCarty wrote: I don't like a separate swap partition, because it's difficult to resize, and the information I have is that with 2.6 kernels a swap file is as fast as a separate partition, and much easier to resize. Interesting. I've never had to resize a swap

Re: Partition Sizes, AGAIN!

2010-03-04 Thread Mike McCarty
Baho Utot wrote: Andrew Benton wrote: I keep my kernel in /home/boot, along with all grub's files, so that if I boot into one LFS partition or the other I can use the same kernel and I never need to use grub to rewrite the MBR Andy I don't understand how that helps He was

Re: partition sizes

2010-03-04 Thread Simon Geard
On Thu, 2010-03-04 at 12:38 -0600, Mike McCarty wrote: I've got a question about this. Why bother with a swap partition? AIUI, with 2.6 kernels, using a swap file is as fast as using a swap partition, and it is certainly more flexible to modify later. Relevant only if I'd ever want to modify

Re: Partition Sizes, AGAIN!

2010-03-04 Thread Simon Geard
On Thu, 2010-03-04 at 13:13 -0600, Mike McCarty wrote: Does the build partition really need to be 10G? Would 5G be enough to build a new BLFS with smallish desktop, like fluxbox, not a big GNOME or KDE? If so, then /home could grow by another 10G, which would be nice. 5Gb should be fine -

Re: partition sizes

2010-02-17 Thread Simon Geard
On Tue, 2010-02-16 at 23:10 +, aztec...@comcast.net wrote: Based on this setup, is it possible to have /root and /boot on two separate drives (in my case '/root' was in #2, and '/boot' was on #1)? Hang on, do you really mean '/root', i.e the root user's home directory? Or do you mean the

Re: partition sizes

2010-02-17 Thread Andrew Benton
On 16/02/10 23:10, aztec...@comcast.net wrote: Based on this setup, is it possible to have /root and /boot on two separate drives (in my case '/root' was in #2, and '/boot' was on #1)? The reason I ask is because I attempted to do an install using this scheme but it gave me error 17 or 15 (

Re: partition sizes

2010-02-17 Thread Dominic Ringuet
Here we are, though I'm not a fat hard driver as many of you are. /dev/hda 80gb /dev/hdc 40gb hda: /dev/hda1 16mb /boot /dev/hda2 20gb / /dev/hda3 20gb / /dev/hda4 + /dev/hdc1 = /dev/md0 80gb /home /dev/hda5 + /dev/hdc2 = remaining swap for roughly 1.5gb hda2 and hda3 are used as current root

partition sizes

2010-02-16 Thread aztec007
Hey guys, I have a system with 3 separate Hard drives that I would like to know how to partition and I would like to know if there is anyone with any suggestions. There are currently three hard drives on my system: • #1 : 20 GB drive • #2 : 200 GB drive • #3 : 250 GB drive

Re: partition sizes

2010-02-16 Thread stosss
On Tue, Feb 16, 2010 at 6:10 PM, aztec...@comcast.net wrote: Hey guys, I have a system with 3 separate Hard drives that I would like to know how to partition and I would like to know if there is anyone with any suggestions. There are currently three hard drives on my system: #1 :     20 GB

Re: partition sizes

2010-02-16 Thread Ken Moffat
On 16 February 2010 23:10, aztec...@comcast.net wrote: Hey guys, I have a system with 3 separate Hard drives that I would like to know how to partition and I would like to know if there is anyone with any suggestions. There are currently three hard drives on my system: #1 :     20 GB drive

Re: partition sizes

2010-02-16 Thread Bruce Dubbs
aztec...@comcast.net wrote: Hey guys, I have a system with 3 separate Hard drives that I would like to know how to partition and I would like to know if there is anyone with any suggestions. There are currently three hard drives on my system: • #1 : 20 GB drive • #2 : 200 GB drive •