Re: [lfs-support] LFS translation to Ancient Greek completed

2021-04-01 Thread Rob Hudson
Tim Tassonis wrote: It took me a while, but I now finally completed my translation of the LFS book into Ancient Greek. It is based on LFS 10.0, and only the sysv version is done yet, Systemd is still pending due to ancient greek only having capital letters. Ha. Very good. You actually did hav

Re: [lfs-support] GCC atomic test failure

2020-03-29 Thread Rob
Bruce Dubbs wrote: I don't recall seeing this. Are you on a relatively older system? A timeout in a test would indicate that to me. If that is the only problem you see in gcc, then you are probably OK to continue. Hardware in this thing is about five years old. It's an I5 something. After th

[lfs-support] GCC atomic test failure

2020-03-29 Thread Rob
In Chapter 6.25, GCC-9.2.0 We're in chroot. All else went ok, and then we have: Running /sources/gcc-9.2.0/gcc/testsuite/gcc.dg/atomic/atomic.exp ... WARNING: program timed out. FAIL: gcc.dg/atomic/c11-atomic-exec-5.c -O1 execution test WARNING: program timed out. FAIL: gcc.dg/atomic/c11-atomic-

[lfs-support] CoreUtils warnings

2020-03-28 Thread Rob
This with LFS stable on Debian 10 host Chapter 5.19, coreutils-8.31 configure: WARNING: libacl development library was not found or not usable. configure: WARNING: GNU coreutils will be built without ACL support. configure: WARNING: libattr development library was not found or not usable. configur

Re: [lfs-support] build time comparison

2020-03-06 Thread Rob
Ken Moffat wrote: But for your SSD I'm guessing that you might not be using fstrim (either manually, or the ',discard' option in the fstab), and therefore writing a new block means it has sufficiently filled up that it needs to shuffle things about. I thought that trim stuff was all handled auto

Re: [lfs-support] DBus-Broker

2020-03-01 Thread Rob
Ken Moffat wrote: Do you have links to whatever speed or other efficiency this package provides ? As a user of the sysvinit books I've never found DBus to be an obvious cause of pain or "ooh, this is so slow!" thoughts. All I have is word on the street. I'm no kind of analyst or benchmark exp

[lfs-support] DBus-Broker

2020-03-01 Thread Rob
Are we considering switching from traditional DBus to this implementation? I'm told many distros are switching over, that this one is faster and more efficient. What says LFS? -- http://lists.linuxfromscratch.org/listinfo/lfs-support FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/faq.html Unsubscribe:

[lfs-support] Building LFS for Headless Server

2020-01-04 Thread Rob
As I mentioned before, I'm working at building LFS for a headless server whose primary purpose is for data storage. Thanks, by the way, for the serial console suggestion. I'll be doing that. As such, I'm wondering if any special consideration needs to be taken particularly for kernel builds when at

Re: [lfs-support] Kernel Compilation for Headless Server

2019-12-22 Thread Rob
Dave wrote: How about a USB video dongle Oh, didn't know such things existed. I'll look into that. Thanks. -- http://lists.linuxfromscratch.org/listinfo/lfs-support FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page Do not top post on this list. A: B

[lfs-support] Kernel Compilation for Headless Server

2019-12-22 Thread Rob
I'm working on building a storage server, where I'm going to cram in as many drives as I can. I currently have 10. As such, I need to get rid of the video card to make room. I'll be administering the server over ssh. Can I build a linux version that requires no video support? And how? -- http://li

Re: [lfs-support] A Question about EFI Partition

2018-06-10 Thread Rob
Ken Moffat wrote: You are ignoring one important fact from Rob's original post - the disk is only 37.3GB. To be honest, to me that looks barely usable for storage (even with only one, probably never updated, system). It works fine to run the system. And the system is CLI only. The /home is on a

Re: [lfs-support] A Question about EFI Partition

2018-06-10 Thread Rob
Xi Ruoyao wrote: LFS book does *not* support EFI. If you followed the book, you should use "legacy boot" instead of EFI. And, since the partition table is GPT, you should create a "BIOS boot partition" (in section 2.4.1.3 of LFS book) for it. There is no such thing as legacy boot on this machin

[lfs-support] A Question about EFI Partition

2018-06-10 Thread Rob
I just want to make sure this partition layout is correct before doing grub. fdisk -l /dev/sdb Disk /dev/sdb: 37.3 GiB, 400 bytes, 78125000 sectors Units: sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes D

[lfs-support] Install LFS while running from USB

2018-06-09 Thread Rob
I got my hands on a HP Z220 workstation. I was going to install LFS and make it a raid box for network storage. I only want one OS on the internal drive. Is it possible to install LFS while running off a live USB stick? My thought was to use arch linux as the temporary host. Any caveats? -- http:/

[lfs-support] Only one esata interface at a time

2018-05-10 Thread Rob
This problem is distro independent, and seems to be a kernel issue. I have two MediaSonic esata enclosures, each with four drives. They are connected via a two port Esata PCIE card, listed as: 01:00.0 SATA controller: Marvell Technology Group Ltd. 88SE9128 PCIe SATA 6 Gb/s RAID controller (rev 20)

[lfs-support] Kernel Config, SSD

2018-03-05 Thread Rob
Does anything special need to be done with the kernel for optimal use of solid state drives? I recall something about turning on something called trimming, but I don't remember much more than that. -- http://lists.linuxfromscratch.org/listinfo/lfs-support FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/

[lfs-support] Truncating "make check"

2018-02-20 Thread Rob
When running "make check" on glibc-2.27 and other such packages. Is there a way to truncate the output so that only passes/fails are shown? I know you can go "make -s" and that will suppress a lot of things during compilation but i'm not certain that switch will work for test suites. I run the chro

Re: [lfs-support] LFS-8.2-RC1: 5.12

2018-02-17 Thread Rob
Ken Moffat wrote: That message seems to be normal. Not sure where the '-q' came from. I added it, so I could catch any warnigngs. It suppresses the Checking for... messages and makes for a much cleaner experience. -- http://lists.linuxfromscratch.org/listinfo/lfs-support FAQ: http://www.linuxf

[lfs-support] LFS-8.2-RC1: 5.12

2018-02-17 Thread Rob
When trying to compile expect, I got this: config.status: WARNING: 'Makefile.in' seems to ignore the --datarootdir setting chmod: cannot access './install-sh': No such file or directory Here is my command line: ./configure -q --prefix=/tools \ --with-tcl=/tools/lib \

[lfs-support] the new Linux Subsystem in Win 10

2017-04-28 Thread Rob
Last year I heard that M$ was including a Ubuntu-based subsystem in its Windows 10 product. I wasn't sure this was actually going to work very well, but apparently it does. Can this be used to build LFS? I'm not sure it can because of the ext* file systems you would need, but i'm curious nonethe

[lfs-support] B- and LFS Roadmap

2016-10-10 Thread Rob
Do we have something like a milestone tracker that shows the status/progress of B and LFS development? -- http://lists.linuxfromscratch.org/listinfo/lfs-support FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page Do not top post on this list. A: Becaus

Re: [lfs-support] Development systemd - no bash startup files?

2016-10-07 Thread Rob
Bruce Dubbs wrote: > The systemv discussion of bash initialization in LFS is really minimal. > The intent for both books is to put it off to BLFS since there are so many > variations that users may want to use. For example I have my own bash files that I migrate from version to version. I'm rat

Re: [lfs-support] Another Question on Dual Boot

2016-09-17 Thread Rob
Bruce Dubbs wrote: That's too hard. Just mount the formatted /dev/sda2 as e.g. /media. cp -a /root/tmp/* /media I gave that a try just to see what would happen. It led to some unpredictable results. I got a bunch of messages about how preserving permissions of various files in /var/log was uns

[lfs-support] Another Question on Dual Boot

2016-09-16 Thread Rob
I have built an LFS system that I now wish to migrate to my main box. To do this, I plugged in a USB drive, mounted it to /root/tmp , and ran the command: dd if=/dev/sda1 bs=64K | gzip -c > tmp/drive.gz On my main box, I will fire up a live cd, plug in my USB drive and restore with this command g

Re: [lfs-support] A question on Multiboot

2016-09-15 Thread Rob
William Harrington wrote: > You need to specify the Grub's root for each path to the kernel: > If recall, that is the way to do it and not use the variable set early for > "set root=" Thanks. That did the trick. -- http://lists.linuxfromscratch.org/listinfo/lfs-support FAQ: http://www.linuxfrom

[lfs-support] A question on Multiboot

2016-09-15 Thread Rob
Here's the situation. I've got two LFS systems, one on /dev/sda1 and the other on /dev/sdb1. They each have their kernels in the /boot directories on those drives. So I don't have a separate /boot partition. A little bit of an oversight on my part. I know I could back up things, erase partitions an

[lfs-support] No Networking in Post Boot

2016-09-14 Thread Rob
LFS-7.10-Systemd. In section 7.2.1.2 the book talks about creating "/etc/systemd/network/10-eth0-dhcp.network" . Then, in BLFS Chapter 14, - DHCPCD, it talks about disabling systemd-networkd.service. So, does the file referenced in LFS 7.2.1.2 still need to be created if you install dhcpcd? Becaus

Re: [lfs-support] passwd: Authentication token manipulation error

2016-09-13 Thread Rob
Douglas R. Reno wrote: > You'll need to run "pwconv" and "grpconv" in the Shadow page in LFS in > order to get the /etc/shadow file. Thanks, that fixed it. NOw we're logged in, but with new problems which I'll post about separately. -- http://lists.linuxfromscratch.org/listinfo/lfs-support FAQ:

[lfs-support] passwd: Authentication token manipulation error

2016-09-13 Thread Rob
Building LFS-7.10-Systemd I installed linux-pam, reinstalled shadow, reinstalled systemd. However, I must have missed a step somewhere, because it won't let me log in when I reboot. I fired up my rescue system, chrooted into the LFS one. As root "passwd" , and got this: "passwd: Authentication tok

[lfs-support] different module directories

2016-09-11 Thread Rob
Can someone please clarify for me the differences here? /etc/modules-load.d /etc/modprobe.d and the file: /etc/sysconfig/modules All these various module dirs are confusing. -- http://lists.linuxfromscratch.org/listinfo/lfs-support FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: Se

Re: [lfs-support] Force i386

2016-09-05 Thread Rob
William Harrington wrote: > If we get a break in real world prioritized responsibilities, then > the book may get some excellent updates. Until then, we > are working at a frivolous pace. Absolutely. I did not mean that as a criticism at all. In fact, I intend looking at the CLFS roadmap and seei

[lfs-support] Binutils Test Failures

2016-09-05 Thread Rob
This is LFS-7.10 RC1. I am in the chroot environment on an arch live cd. When running binutils tests in section 6.13, I get a bunch of failures. Since the file is long, I put it on a pastebin. http://pastebin.com/uWiE6dt0 What went wrong here? -- http://lists.linuxfromscratch.org/listinfo/lfs-sup

Re: [lfs-support] Force i386

2016-09-05 Thread Rob
e at kernel 4.7.2. I am not sure about the security risks of running such old stuff. The copyright date is 2014. That's what I meant by a few years behind. > My suggestion to Rob is that he should build LFS, plus whichever > parts of BLFS are useful to him. This is my third build of

Re: [lfs-support] Sanity Check Failed in GCC Pass 2

2016-09-04 Thread Rob
Thanos Baloukas wrote: > If you don't find something, post some info for the host > and the output of version-check.sh I deleted /tools and started over again. This time, we had no errors. Still not sure what steps I might have missed though. Oh well. As long as it's working. -- http://lists.l

[lfs-support] Sanity Check Failed in GCC Pass 2

2016-09-04 Thread Rob
In conducting the sanity check in section 5.10: echo 'int main(){}' > dummy.c cc dummy.c readelf -l a.out | grep ': /tools' cc dummy.c got the following output /usr/bin/ld: /mnt/lfs/tools/bin/../lib/gcc/i686-pc-linux-gnu/6.2.0/../../../crti.o: unrecognized relocation (0x2b) in section `.init' /us

Re: [lfs-support] Force i386

2016-09-04 Thread Rob
Thanos Baloukas wrote: > Maybe you want to try CLFS. http://trac.clfs.org/ http://clfs.org/view/ Thanks. I'll read through there and see if I can't apply information to new toolchan versions. Looks like CLFS is a few years behind. -- http://lists.linuxfromscratch.org/listinfo/lfs-support FAQ:

Re: [lfs-support] Force i386

2016-09-04 Thread Rob
Thanos Baloukas wrote: http://lists.linuxfromscratch.org/pipermail/lfs-support/2016-September/050333.html In that thread, you linked to a script collection, on github. The instructions in there did not work (not surprising), and asking google just linked to a bunch of pages about installing mul

[lfs-support] Force i386

2016-09-03 Thread Rob
I can't seem to get multilib GCC to compile properly. It stops haflway through compiling with "checking dynamic linker characteristics... configure: error: Link tests are not allowed after GCC_NO_EXECUTABLES." and won't go any further. Sounds like something went wrong with binutils, but I'm not

[lfs-support] Multilib support

2016-09-02 Thread Rob
In chapter 6 of LFS, we have "--disable-multilib" specified in the configure instructions. What will happen if I don't include that? I have some programs that I want to run which are 32 bit, and require 32 bit libs. -- http://lists.linuxfromscratch.org/listinfo/lfs-support FAQ: http://www.linuxf

Re: [lfs-support] Can Regular Users Contribute?

2016-08-27 Thread Rob
lf...@cruziero.com (akhiezer) wrote: > (Top-posting as I gather that can be useful re accessibility stuff: is that correct?) It doesn't matter to me personally. A lot of lists for vi folks do top post though. I strike a compromise between the ones that do and the ones like this which bottom post

Re: [lfs-support] Can Regular Users Contribute?

2016-08-27 Thread Rob
Bruce Dubbs wrote: The way this type of thing is handled is by someone writing a hint: Do I have to join the hints list (I'm already on way too many lists as is) or can I send you the hint directly. -- http://lists.linuxfromscratch.org/listinfo/lfs-support FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/

[lfs-support] Can Regular Users Contribute?

2016-08-27 Thread Rob
One of the things missing from the LFS book is the inclusion of accessibility services, such as speakup and BRLTTY. Now these services aren't exactly essential for most users, but for those with vision impairment, we need them in order to use the basic system. These packages should be installed

Re: [lfs-support] Flashing message on the console

2016-07-07 Thread Rob
Marcos Pansani wrote: > From time to time on the island, is popping up a message that I believe is a > log or warning that a certain USB device connects or disconnects ... You can turn this off by editing /etc/sysconfig/console and changing loglevel to 4. -- http://lists.linuxfromscratch.org/lis

Re: [lfs-support] Alsa Drivers Keep loading, even blacklisted

2016-02-06 Thread Rob
alex lupu wrote: ​What asterisk?In my first message on this topic I indicated that I put blacklist snd_hda_intel* But apparently the modprobe program does not like wildcards--at least in that file. -- http://lists.linuxfromscratch.org/listinfo/lfs-support FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org

Re: [lfs-support] Alsa Drivers Keep loading, even blacklisted

2016-02-06 Thread Rob
Rob wrote: It doesn't matter. Modprobe.d automatically replaces dashes and underscores, according to the man page. Just to be sure, however, I tried it with both. Interestingly, modprobe -r snd_hda_intel worked. I fixed it. Blacklist.conf did not like the asterisk. --

Re: [lfs-support] Alsa Drivers Keep loading, even blacklisted

2016-02-05 Thread Rob
Thanos Baloukas wrote: On 3.19.1 kernel the module name is snd-hda-intel with `-', not `_' Are you sure you are using the correct module name? It doesn't matter. Modprobe.d automatically replaces dashes and underscores, according to the man page. Just to be sure, however, I tried it with both.

[lfs-support] Alsa Drivers Keep loading, even blacklisted

2016-02-05 Thread Rob
I ask here because module blacklisting is mentioned in the lfs book. I have 3 cards on my system: an onboard and two PCI cards. I want the onboard one to not load. It is too quiet and I can barely hear it; so it is therefore useless for my purposes. It is an Intel board, so in /etc/modprobe.d/b

[lfs-support] Upgrading Between Versions

2015-10-18 Thread Rob
Good morning all. I have built and installed LFS, and a few packages from BLFS 7.7. Now I am looking to now upgrade to 7.8. I did not see anything in the book specifically geared toward going between LFS versions. Do I have to do anything different when doing an upgrade rather than going from s

Re: [lfs-support] [OT] CLFS

2014-12-04 Thread rob
On 05/12/14 00:03, Douglas R. Reno wrote: They seem to have a backup domain at http://clfs.org. I would try there. Douglas R. Reno Thanks. -- http://lists.linuxfromscratch.org/listinfo/lfs-support FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page

[lfs-support] [OT] CLFS

2014-12-04 Thread rob
Site seems to have been down for a couple of weeks. Tried mailing CLFS list but returned Undelivered. Anybody heard any news? Rob -- http://lists.linuxfromscratch.org/listinfo/lfs-support FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/faq.html Unsubscribe: See the above information page Do not