Hi all,
Let's pick a new abbreviation to use for our bugtracker :-)
Per our last meeting, I talked with the ESC about abbreviations:
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/Meetings/2013/December_02#PENDING_ITEM:_Bugzilla_Migration_etc.
The ESC gave a few more suggestions, and said that the peopl
(I'm not on the list, but saw Robinson's update on the wiki and then on
the list)
On Sun Dec 1 10:31:47 PST 2013, Robinson Tryon
> Here's the list (in alphabetical order):
> * blo
> * lbz
> * libo
> * lo
> * lob
> * lobz
lo#123
or
lobz#123
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Dennis Roczek
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Vote:
> Here's the list (in alphabetical order):
> * blo -- NO
> * lbz -- YES, but only as alternative to tdf
> * libo -- NO
> * lo -- NO
> * lob -- NO
> * lobz -- NO
> * tdf -- YES, of course LibreOffice is not The Document Foundation, but TDF
> is LibreOffice's home
and the F
On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 4:59 PM, V Stuart Foote wrote:
>> * tdf -- YES, of course LibreOffice is not The Document Foundation, but TDF
>> is LibreOffice's home
>and the Foundations objective "to nurture and develop
> office software that is free to use by everyone"
>
Hi,
On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 06:02:02PM -0500, Robinson Tryon wrote:
> If we go that route, we should use the url bugs.documentfoundation.org
A big part of this exercise is to not have LibreOffice bug mixed with others
anymore. As such documentfoundation just seems wrong to me as tdf might have
ot
On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 6:38 PM, bjoern wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 06:02:02PM -0500, Robinson Tryon wrote:
>> If we go that route, we should use the url bugs.documentfoundation.org
>
> A big part of this exercise is to not have LibreOffice bug mixed with others
> anymore. As such doc
> -Original Message-
> From: Robinson Tryon [mailto:bishop.robin...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 5:02 PM
>
> If we go that route, we should use the url bugs.documentfoundation.org
>
> Thoughts??
Well it would have the advantage of neutral Bugzilla support for any other
Le 21/11/2013 19:52, Robinson Tryon a écrit :
> Hi all,
> [...]
>
> Here's the list (in alphabetical order):
> * blo
why not but not sure if having a o in the abbreviation is a good idea,
risk of error with 0
> * lbz
OK
> * libo
No, it is a common abbreviation for the software itself
> * lo
No,
Hi,
> Am 21.11.2013 um 19:52 schrieb Robinson Tryon :
>
> Hi all,
>
> Let's pick a new abbreviation to use for our bugtracker :-)
>
> Per our last meeting, I talked with the ESC about abbreviations:
> https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/Meetings/2013/December_02#PENDING_ITEM:_Bugzilla_Migrat
On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 1:52 PM, Robinson Tryon
wrote:
> * blo
This one blows
> * lbz
Ok
> * libo
Ok
> * lo
Good. Easy to pronounce.
> * lob
Good. Easiest to pronounce.
> * lobz
Ok. Amusing to pronounce.
> * tdf
Libreoffice/TDF are different.
Cheers,
--R
Hi,
Le 22/11/2013 00:38, bjoern a écrit :
> [...]
> On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 10:02:32PM +0100, Jean-Baptiste Faure wrote:
>>> * libo
>> No, it is a common abbreviation for the software itself
>>
>>> * lo
>> No, it is a common abbreviation for the software itself
>
> It will never be used standalon
Hello Jean-Baptiste, *,
On Donnerstag, 21. November 2013 22:02 Jean-Baptiste Faure wrote:
> Le 21/11/2013 19:52, Robinson Tryon a écrit :
>> Here's the list (in alphabetical order):
>> * blo
> why not but not sure if having a o in the abbreviation is a good
> idea, risk of error with 0
I would pre
Hi,
My opinion:
Here's the list (in alphabetical order):
* blo
no. The relation with the english word 'blow' is to big.
* lbz
Fine by me
* libo
* lo
no. I don't think that a abbrivation of the product is going to work
* lob
* lobz
Fine by me
* tdf
Here is the discussion about if we
On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 06:51:55PM -0500, Robinson Tryon wrote:
> The nice thing with putting everything under a "LibreOffice"
> bugtracker for now is that if in the future we do decide to migrate
> bugtracking for TDF-specific web infra to a separate instance, that's
> going to be a much smaller a
For the time being, let's assume that we're going to migrate all bugs
over to bugs.libreoffice.org and then (later) consider splitting-off
non-LibreOffice bugs into a separate tracker. With that in mind, I
suggest that we keep "tdf#" reserved for TDF-bugtracker use.
In terms of the other names, th
+1 lobz, I think no confusions.
Miguel Ángel.
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On Thu, 21 Nov 2013 19:52:27 +0100, Robinson Tryon
wrote:
Hi all,
Let's pick a new abbreviation to use for our bugtracker :-)
...
Here's the list (in alphabetical order):
* blo
please, avoid. I don't wanna be exposed to unpolite jokes about "QA is
doing blo job"
* lbz
no. phoneticall
On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 1:52 PM, Robinson Tryon
wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> Let's pick a new abbreviation to use for our bugtracker :-)
> ...
> If there's no obvious winner after a few days, we can take a vote.
Well...looks like it's time to take a vote :P
Voting Rules:
* Please vote for as many of the
Hi,
I am voting for "libo" only ;)
Liebe Grüße, / Yours,
Florian Reisinger
> Am 01.12.2013 um 19:31 schrieb Robinson Tryon :
>
> On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 1:52 PM, Robinson Tryon
> wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Let's pick a new abbreviation to use for our bugtracker :-)
>> ...
>> If there's no obviou
Hello Robinson, *,
On Sonntag, 1. Dezember 2013 19:31 Robinson Tryon wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 1:52 PM, Robinson Tryon
> wrote:
[new abbreviation for bugs.libreoffice.org]
> Well...looks like it's time to take a vote :P
>
> Voting Rules:
> * Please vote for as many of the listed choices as
Robinson Tryon
Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2013 12:31 PM
>Well...looks like it's time to take a vote :P
>
>Voting Rules:
>* Please vote for as many of the listed choices as you like (Approval Voting)
>* Per our discussion, I'm reserving 'tdf' for future use
>* If there's no clear winner, we can ha
t; * lobz
>
> Thanks,
> --R
+1 lobz
Miguel Ángel.
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Robinson Tryon schreef op 1/12/13 19:31:
> Well...looks like it's time to take a vote :P Voting Rules: * Please
> vote for as many of the listed choices as you like (Approval Voting) *
> Per our discussion, I'm reserving 'tdf' for future use * If there's no
> clear winner, we can have a run-off
>>
Hi Rob,
Am 01.12.2013 19:31, schrieb Robinson Tryon:
Well...looks like it's time to take a vote :P Voting Rules: * Please
vote for as many of the listed choices as you like (Approval Voting) *
Per our discussion, I'm reserving 'tdf' for future use * If there's no
clear winner, we can have a ru
I like libo# and lobz#
Am 01.12.2013 19:31, schrieb Robinson Tryon:
On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 1:52 PM, Robinson Tryon
wrote:
Hi all,
Let's pick a new abbreviation to use for our bugtracker :-)
...
If there's no obvious winner after a few days, we can take a vote.
Well...looks like it's time to
> Am 01.12.2013 19:31, schrieb Robinson Tryon:
>>> * lo
for the sake of concision I'd prefer that one. remeber that commit
message would contain it aka lo# and real-estate is very sparse
on the 'summary' line of a commit.
>>> * blo
fine size wise... but I just do not associate it with the intente
On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 5:12 AM, bjoern wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 06:51:55PM -0500, Robinson Tryon wrote:
>> The nice thing with putting everything under a "LibreOffice"
>> bugtracker for now is that if in the future we do decide to migrate
>> bugtracking for TDF-specific web infra to a sep
On Mon, Dec 02, 2013 at 07:09:06AM -0600, Norbert Thiebaud wrote:
> With the expeirence of setting a large bugzilla up likewe need... it
> should not be that hard to creat a separate instance for infra...and
> in the future a separate instance for other project that may come
> along
Im pretty cert
On Mon, Dec 2, 2013 at 7:21 AM, bjoern wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 02, 2013 at 07:09:06AM -0600, Norbert Thiebaud wrote:
>> With the expeirence of setting a large bugzilla up likewe need... it
>> should not be that hard to creat a separate instance for infra...and
>> in the future a separate instance for
On Mon, Dec 2, 2013 at 8:21 AM, bjoern wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 02, 2013 at 07:09:06AM -0600, Norbert Thiebaud wrote:
>> With the expeirence of setting a large bugzilla up likewe need... it
>> should not be that hard to creat a separate instance for infra...and
>> in the future a separate instance for
On Mon, Dec 02, 2013 at 08:45:33AM -0500, Robinson Tryon wrote:
> Until someone in infra tells me otherwise, I'm going to assume that
> all of the bugs and bugtracking categories covered under the
> 'LibreOffice' product on FDO will migrate to the new Bugzilla instance
> being set up by Tollef. I'm
On Sun, 01 Dec 2013 19:31:47 +0100, Robinson Tryon
wrote:
Here's the list (in alphabetical order):
* blo
* lbz
* libo
* lo
* lob
* lobz
Thanks,
--R
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my two votes go to:
lob
lobz
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Hi,
On Sunday, 2013-12-01 13:31:47 -0500, Robinson Tryon wrote:
> > * blo
No for obvious already discussed reason.
> > * lbz
3rd rank.
> > * libo
No, too long.
> > * lo
1st rank. YES!
> > * lob
2nd rank.
> > * lobz
No, too long. Lobster, anyone?
From my view of a developer who has to type a
On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 8:05 AM, Eike Rathke wrote:
>
>> > * lo
> 1st rank. YES!
>...
>> > * lobz
> No, too long. Lobster, anyone?
>
> From my view of a developer who has to type and squeeze these into the
> alreay short enough commit summary line.
Hi all -- thank you for voting! For those of you
On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 7:57 PM, Robinson Tryon
wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 8:05 AM, Eike Rathke wrote:
>>
>>> > * lo
>> 1st rank. YES!
>>...
>>> > * lobz
>> No, too long. Lobster, anyone?
>>
>> From my view of a developer who has to type and squeeze these into the
>> alreay short enough commi
On Fri, Dec 6, 2013 at 12:05 AM, Norbert Thiebaud wrote:
>>
>> The devs really like lo# (as it gives them more room in commit
>> messages),
>
> Yeah, and it is the dev that have to type it a lot, no ?
Sure -- and people on the Ask site, and QA people in FDO...err
, etc..
>>but by a wide marg
On Fri, Dec 6, 2013 at 12:54 AM, Robinson Tryon
wrote:
> On Fri, Dec 6, 2013 at 12:05 AM, Norbert Thiebaud wrote:
>>>
>>> The devs really like lo# (as it gives them more room in commit
>>> messages),
>>
>> Yeah, and it is the dev that have to type it a lot, no ?
>
> Sure -- and people on the Ask
On Fri, Dec 6, 2013 at 2:05 AM, Norbert Thiebaud wrote:
> sure but the dev need to use the canonical abbreviation because we
> have bot that use them to detect association between commit and bugs
> that is not the case on Ask for instance
technically speaking, the bot could recognize lo# as well
On Fri, Dec 6, 2013 at 1:17 AM, Robinson Tryon
wrote:
> On Fri, Dec 6, 2013 at 2:05 AM, Norbert Thiebaud wrote:
>> sure but the dev need to use the canonical abbreviation because we
>> have bot that use them to detect association between commit and bugs
>> that is not the case on Ask for instance
Hello Robinson, *
Le Fri, 06 Dec 2013 07:54:07 +0100, Robinson Tryon
a écrit:
On Fri, Dec 6, 2013 at 12:05 AM, Norbert Thiebaud
wrote:
but by a wide margin the only 4-char abbreviation in the
list has taken an early lead.
Sure, but if you were to ask that question on the dev-ml rather tha
On Fri, Dec 6, 2013 at 3:19 PM, Mat M wrote:
> You should have cross-posted the vote announcement on all concerned lists,
> then you'd been more votes.
What are the 'concerned lists'? i10n? projects? website? Lots of
people interact with the bugtracker, chief among them, the QA team.
For me, th
On Fri, Dec 6, 2013 at 3:31 PM, Robinson Tryon
wrote:
> I felt like I was working hard to go through appropriate channels.
> Perhaps if I'd spent more time I could've gotten more input from other
> groups, but at this point I feel like I've already spent a ton of time
> on just this one little pie
Le Fri, 06 Dec 2013 22:31:53 +0100, Robinson Tryon
a écrit:
On Fri, Dec 6, 2013 at 3:19 PM, Mat M wrote:
You should have cross-posted the vote announcement on all concerned
lists,
then you'd been more votes.
What are the 'concerned lists'? i10n? projects? website? Lots of
people intera
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On Sat, Dec 7, 2013 at 6:30 AM, Norbert Thiebaud wrote:
> On Fri, Dec 6, 2013 at 3:31 PM, Robinson Tryon
> wrote:
>> I felt like I was working hard to go through appropriate channels...
>
> Yeah, you did well. I'm sorry I apparently started a bikeshed on this...
> I have missed ESC of nov 21st (m
On Sat, Dec 7, 2013 at 1:18 PM, Robinson Tryon
wrote:
> Up at the top of your email you said:
> "I'm sorry I apparently started a bikeshed on this..."
>
> ...but the length and breadth of your email belies that
> characterization of this particular decision about abbreviations. This
> is clearly n
Hi everyone,
Here are the final tallies from the voting:
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/Meetings/2013/December_16#PENDING_ITEM:_Bugzilla_Migration_etc.
blo (1)
libo (2)
lbz (3)
lob (3)
lo (6)
lobz (7)
-
Separated by just a single vote, lo and lobz are (unsurprisingly) the
favorites
On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 4:51 AM, Joren DC wrote:
> Robinson Tryon schreef op 17/12/13 13:41:
>> lo (6)
>> lobz (7)
>>
>> Separated by just a single vote, lo and lobz are (unsurprisingly) the
>> favorites :-)
> What about lbz, which is a combination of our 2 top-votes (lo and lobz)?
> lbz was also
On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 4:41 AM, Robinson Tryon
wrote:
> lo (6)
> lobz (7)
>
> Separated by just a single vote, lo and lobz are (unsurprisingly) the
> favorites :-)
Hi all,
In the voting rules I said "If there's no clear winner, we can have a
run-off." A number of people have decried the process
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