Re: [License-discuss] [Osi] [General enquiries] Dual License for CC0

2014-04-03 Thread Simon Phipps
On 3 Apr 2014 00:59, John Cowan co...@mercury.ccil.org wrote: Wilson, Andrew scripsit: Interesting point, though. I'd speculate that if the embedded public license fallback inside CC0 is ever sent to OSI as a stand-alone license, it would be approved. It is mighty similar in effect to

Re: [License-discuss] [Osi] [General enquiries] Dual License for CC0

2014-04-03 Thread Romain Berrendonner
Le 1 avr. 2014 à 22:44, Wilson, Andrew andrew.wil...@intel.com a écrit : […] at least in a legal system like the US where PD is recognized. […] In a legal system where PD is not recognized, e.g. Europe, then the effective portion of CC0 is presumably not the PD declaration but the permissive

Re: [License-discuss] [Osi] [General enquiries] Dual License for CC0

2014-04-03 Thread Wilson, Andrew
Luis Villa wrote: Ø On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 4:02 PM, Wilson, Andrew andrew.wil...@intel.commailto:andrew.wil...@intel.com wrote: Ø with the distinctive feature that it explicitly disclaims patent licensing Ø Ø in the current legal climate, that is not a distinctive feature, it is a

Re: [License-discuss] [Osi] [General enquiries] Dual License for CC0

2014-04-02 Thread Kuno Woudt
Hello, On 04/01/2014 10:44 PM, Wilson, Andrew wrote: In a legal system where PD is not recognized, e.g. Europe, then the effective portion of CC0 is presumably not the PD declaration but the permissive license. As other posters have noted, that permissive license is not perceptibly different

Re: [License-discuss] [Osi] [General enquiries] Dual License for CC0

2014-04-02 Thread Wilson, Andrew
Kuno Woud wrote: On 04/01/2014 10:44 PM, Wilson, Andrew wrote: In a legal system where PD is not recognized, e.g. Europe, then the effective portion of CC0 is presumably not the PD declaration but the permissive license. As other posters have noted, that permissive license is not

Re: [License-discuss] [Osi] [General enquiries] Dual License for CC0

2014-04-02 Thread Luis Villa
On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 4:02 PM, Wilson, Andrew andrew.wil...@intel.comwrote: with the distinctive feature that it explicitly disclaims patent licensing IMHO, in the current legal climate, that is not a distinctive feature, it is a distinctive bug. Luis

Re: [License-discuss] [Osi] [General enquiries] Dual License for CC0

2014-04-02 Thread John Cowan
Wilson, Andrew scripsit: Interesting point, though. I'd speculate that if the embedded public license fallback inside CC0 is ever sent to OSI as a stand-alone license, it would be approved. It is mighty similar in effect to MIT/BSD/Apache, with the distinctive feature that it explicitly

Re: [License-discuss] [Osi] [General enquiries] Dual License for CC0

2014-04-01 Thread Wilson, Andrew
dual license their work as e.g. both CC0 and MIT. It seems a lot of people don't know about this option, and it makes for a good middle ground for those that want public domain, but also want to be sure they're covered by OSI's approval system. Not clear to my non-lawyer mind how

Re: [License-discuss] [Osi] [General enquiries] Dual License for CC0

2014-04-01 Thread Ben Tilly
and public domain dedication pop up all the time on message boards. In the FAQ, it goes through why these licenses are not currently OSI approved. I was wondering if you could amend the FAQ to put forth the option that developers can dual license their work as e.g. both CC0 and MIT. It seems a lot

Re: [License-discuss] [Osi] [General enquiries] Dual License for CC0

2014-03-31 Thread John Cowan
dual license their work as e.g. both CC0 and MIT. It seems a lot of people don't know about this option, and it makes for a good middle ground for those that want public domain, but also want to be sure they're covered by OSI's approval system. It's not clear what the advantages would be. CC0

Re: [License-discuss] [Osi] [General enquiries] Dual License for CC0

2014-03-27 Thread Karl Fogel
odie5...@gmail.com writes: Hi. I see questions about CC0 and public domain dedication pop up all the time on message boards. In the FAQ, it goes through why these licenses are not currently OSI approved. I was wondering if you could amend the FAQ to put forth the option that developers can dual

Re: Dual license question

2004-06-29 Thread anon
1. I note without particular objection that your question is off-topic for this list. Like practically all other recent posts, it hasn't had anything to do with OSI or examining candidate licence for OSD-compliance. If you didn't object you wouldn't note. Why don't you have OSI appoint you

Re: Dual license question

2004-06-29 Thread Rick Moen
Quoting anon ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): If you didn't object you wouldn't note. We seem to have a quibbler among us. Why don't you have OSI appoint you moderator? Otherwise hop on over to Slashdot with the rest of the obnoxious gamers and script-kiddies. Oh wait: Correction, we seem to have a

Re: Dual license question

2004-06-29 Thread J.M.Piulachs [Sand!]
I understood that he was helping me to find the right place to get an answer to my question so all I can said is thanks for the suggestion and for the answer. - Original Message - From: anon [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2004 8:38 PM Subject: Re: Dual

Dual license question

2004-06-28 Thread J.M.Piulachs [Sand!]
Hi all, One simple question ... If I have relased a dual licensed software product (GNU and comercial license) can other GNU licensed software be added to my code base without license issues? Thanks -- license-discuss archive is at http://crynwr.com/cgi-bin/ezmlm-cgi?3

Re: Dual license question

2004-06-28 Thread Rick Moen
Quoting J.M.Piulachs [Sand!] ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): One simple question ... If I have relased a dual licensed software product (GNU and comercial license) can other GNU licensed software be added to my code base without license issues? 1. I note without particular objection that your question

Dual license?

2001-10-02 Thread Kenneth Geisshirt
under the following dual license: 1. If you are an educational institution, you are granted to modify the source code and distribute them to other educational institution (circa like a BSD license). 2. If you are not an educational institution any derived work not be public available

Re: Dual license?

2001-10-02 Thread Mark Rauterkus
Hi *, which is going to do some software development as a government contract. I think ALL Gov software -- since it is PAID for by PUBLIC funds -- and used for a PUBLIC purpose, should be with PUBLIC licenses. The software contractors might need to do some hand-holding for the gov. agency

RE: Dual license?

2001-10-02 Thread Feller, Joe
Here's your biggest problem, IMO: (From the Open Source Definition (http://opensource.org/docs/definition.html)) # 5. No Discrimination Against Persons or Groups # The license must not discriminate against any person or group of persons. # 6. No Discrimination Against Fields of Endeavor # The

Re: Dual license?

2001-10-02 Thread Kenneth Geisshirt
On Tue, 2 Oct 2001, Mark Rauterkus wrote: I think ALL Gov software -- since it is PAID for by PUBLIC funds -- and used for a PUBLIC purpose, should be with PUBLIC licenses. I agree - and some Danish government agencies do, too. That's why this project must be Open Source. PS: 2. If you

RE: Dual license?

2001-10-02 Thread Kenneth Geisshirt
On Tue, 2 Oct 2001, Feller, Joe wrote: Here's your biggest problem, IMO: # 5. No Discrimination Against Persons or Groups # The license must not discriminate against any person or group of persons. # 6. No Discrimination Against Fields of Endeavor I know. It's kind of interesting: you

Re: Dual license?

2001-10-02 Thread Patrik Wallstrom
On Tue, 2 Oct 2001, Kenneth Geisshirt wrote: I think ALL Gov software -- since it is PAID for by PUBLIC funds -- and used for a PUBLIC purpose, should be with PUBLIC licenses. I agree - and some Danish government agencies do, too. That's why this project must be Open Source. The swedish

Re: Dual license?

2001-10-02 Thread Jeremy Hankins
Kenneth Geisshirt said: Sorry, typing error. The idea is to force non-educational to publish derived work (substitute last not with must, please). GPL can do that, I guess, but let us assume that I wish to be more liberal with educational institution (they will never compete on the

Re: Dual license?

2001-10-02 Thread John Cowan
Patrik Wallstrom wrote: The swedish government is having a hard time to have limitations on software they produce by first copyright, and then further by applying an open source license on it. They're still investigating how an open source license can be combined with swedish laws.

Re: Dual license?

2001-10-02 Thread Patrik Wallstrom
On Tue, 2 Oct 2001, John Cowan wrote: The swedish government is having a hard time to have limitations on software they produce by first copyright, and then further by applying an open source license on it. They're still investigating how an open source license can be combined with

Re: Dual license?

2001-10-02 Thread John Cowan
Patrik Wallstrom wrote: Well, both have a copyright notice. True, but what the copyright notice takes away, the license gives back. In the U.S., there is a legal requirement that what the Federal government writes through its own employees (as opposed to what it pays to have written for it)