Re: Remove old "News" entry from home page

2015-07-18 Thread Federico Bruni
Il giorno dom 19 lug 2015 alle 0:58, Urs Liska ha scritto: But it *is* a problem that changing anything on the website is such an involved process - both in terms of the used infrastructure *and* in terms of the review process. This *is* scaring away people who would be able to support the pro

Re: Remove old "News" entry from home page

2015-07-18 Thread Federico Bruni
Werner, I'm skipping your replies where you were implying that I was proposing to change the whole documentation system and not just the website. Il giorno dom 19 lug 2015 alle 7:26, Werner LEMBERG ha scritto: 1. All the persons who built the lilypond build system left the project. C

Re: Remove old "News" entry from home page

2015-07-18 Thread Federico Bruni
Il giorno dom 19 lug 2015 alle 7:33, Werner LEMBERG ha scritto: Federico suggests that *the website* doesn't have to be available in PDF or info format. He doesn't speak of manuals. This fine distinction was definitely not obvious in his first e-mail. Really? Quoting myself, "tool for the

Re: Remove old "News" entry from home page

2015-07-18 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> But the "website" doesn't have to be available as PDF or as info > documents if the manuals are. So I don't see anything speaking > against having a "website" that is developed using arbitrary > technologies that may even change every two years and having the > manuals in their traditional infr

Re: Remove old "News" entry from home page

2015-07-18 Thread Werner LEMBERG
As a preliminary I want to mention that in general I can imagine that we separate the top-level entry page of lilypond.org from the texinfo system. Somewhere we could have a `doc' subdirectory, and from there on everything is generated with texinfo as usual. > I understand that having to learn t

Re: Remove old "News" entry from home page

2015-07-18 Thread Joram
Hi, I don't really like to join the discussion, because a) I don't like to tone and b) I don't have time to work on changes or even proposals. But I'd like to second the general idea by Federico. A website creation less carved in stone and with easier maintainability is something to aim at. Any s

Re: Remove old "News" entry from home page

2015-07-18 Thread Urs Liska
I'm afraid David is right with many things here, although I'd prefer him being more moderated in his tone. Federico is laying his finger on an obviously problematic issue, and he's actively thinking about possible solutions. Maybe his ideas aren't going to work out for inherent problems, maybe not

Issue 4495 Remove unnecessary #{ .. #} constructs (issue 253310043 by tdanielsmu...@googlemail.com)

2015-07-18 Thread dak
One thing that you have to be aware of is that #{ \music #} is not equivalent to music but rather to (ly:music-deep-copy music (*location*)) since it creates a copy of the music and puts the point-and-click information to the call of the containing music function. Now I don't really know whether

Re: Remove old "News" entry from home page

2015-07-18 Thread David Kastrup
Federico Bruni writes: > Il giorno sab 18 lug 2015 alle 20:42, David Kastrup ha > scritto: >> Federico Bruni writes: >> >>> Il giorno sab 11 lug 2015 alle 9:28, Urs Liska >>> ha >>> scritto: These are all good ideas and suggestions. Now we need someone to give it a try. I won't b

Re: Remove old "News" entry from home page

2015-07-18 Thread Federico Bruni
Il giorno sab 18 lug 2015 alle 20:42, David Kastrup ha scritto: Federico Bruni writes: Il giorno sab 11 lug 2015 alle 9:28, Urs Liska ha scritto: These are all good ideas and suggestions. Now we need someone to give it a try. I won't be able to do anythong about ut unfortunately. U

Re: Remove old "News" entry from home page

2015-07-18 Thread David Kastrup
Federico Bruni writes: > Il giorno sab 11 lug 2015 alle 9:28, Urs Liska ha > scritto: >> These are all good ideas and suggestions. Now we need someone to >> give it a try. I won't be able to do anythong about ut >> unfortunately. > > Unfortunately I'm scared away by texinfo, texi2html, the build

Re: CG manual, pushing to staging

2015-07-18 Thread Benkő Pál
2015-07-18 19:05 GMT+02:00 Federico Bruni : >> $ git push origin HEAD:staging > > That's probably how I would like to work (so I don't need the patch file). > `git fetch` fetches implicitly from a particular branch? > > What's the purpose of HEAD:staging? moves the branch on remote to your recentl

Re: Remove old "News" entry from home page

2015-07-18 Thread Federico Bruni
Il giorno sab 11 lug 2015 alle 9:28, Urs Liska ha scritto: These are all good ideas and suggestions. Now we need someone to give it a try. I won't be able to do anythong about ut unfortunately. Unfortunately I'm scared away by texinfo, texi2html, the build system, etc. I wish we could use a

Re: CG manual, pushing to staging

2015-07-18 Thread David Kastrup
Benkő Pál writes: > 2015-07-18 17:57 GMT+02:00 Federico Bruni : >> What do you think about these instructions? >> http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.19/Documentation/contributor/pushing-to-staging >> >> I have a few comments, but I'm not sure about any of them: >> >> 1. There's no real purpose in pulling

Re: CG manual, pushing to staging

2015-07-18 Thread Federico Bruni
Il giorno sab 18 lug 2015 alle 18:33, Benkő Pál ha scritto: 3. I don't like much the `git merge` approach suggested for those who work with local branches, as the git log is a bit messed up (a merge commit is added, often faraway from the commit containing the real changes). I'd rather su

Re: CG manual, pushing to staging

2015-07-18 Thread Benkő Pál
2015-07-18 17:57 GMT+02:00 Federico Bruni : > What do you think about these instructions? > http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.19/Documentation/contributor/pushing-to-staging > > I have a few comments, but I'm not sure about any of them: > > 1. There's no real purpose in pulling and rebasing the staging br

Re: CG manual, pushing to staging

2015-07-18 Thread Phil Holmes
- Original Message - From: "Federico Bruni" To: "lilypond-devel" Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2015 4:57 PM Subject: CG manual, pushing to staging What do you think about these instructions? http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.19/Documentation/contributor/pushing-to-staging I have a few comments,

CG manual, pushing to staging

2015-07-18 Thread Federico Bruni
What do you think about these instructions? http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.19/Documentation/contributor/pushing-to-staging I have a few comments, but I'm not sure about any of them: 1. There's no real purpose in pulling and rebasing the staging branch, assuming that this branch should be "clean" (w