Re: Google Code shutting down

2015-05-19 Thread James Lowe
On 12/05/15 21:15, Trevor Daniels wrote: James wrote Tuesday, May 12, 2015 1:46 PM Trevor Do we even need a new git-cl? I am no expert but wasn't that designed to get around the fact that we had to upload to two different places (one place for actual review and one for a note on the

Re: Google Code shutting down

2015-05-19 Thread Marc Hohl
Am 19.05.2015 um 09:04 schrieb James Lowe: [...] Oh if someone could look at the script that Mark Hohl (I think) created a while back called 'make-countdown-announcement.sh' No, it was Mark Polesky who added it. Cheers, Marc ___ lilypond-devel

Re: Google Code shutting down

2015-05-17 Thread Trevor Daniels
David Kastrup wrote Sunday, May 17, 2015 8:49 AM Should I ask at Savannah how they view the prospect of running Allura? Are there obvious selling points over Savane? Like that there is an API for manipulating issues? No harm in asking. Presumably they would need to undertake its ongoing

Re: Google Code shutting down

2015-05-17 Thread Trevor Daniels
Trevor Daniels wrote Saturday, May 16, 2015 10:44 AM I've pretty well completed my assessment of Allura at SourceForge, and find the facilities available pretty well match our needs, in fact they are surprisingly similar to those at GoogleCode. There are some differences but none which

Re: Google Code shutting down

2015-05-17 Thread David Kastrup
Trevor Daniels t.dani...@treda.co.uk writes: Further to this, I had a very helpful interchange today with one of the other users at SourceForge who responded to my ticket. He suggested exporting the text part of the DB as a JSON file, changing all the occurrences of author: *anonymous to

Re: Google Code shutting down

2015-05-16 Thread Trevor Daniels
Trevor Daniels wrote Saturday, May 16, 2015 12:27 PM David Kastrup wrote Saturday, May 16, 2015 11:11 AM Trevor Daniels wrote Tuesday, May 12, 2015 9:15 PM I'm sure we'll find some undesirable features of Allura when we get down to the details, but that's what the next few weeks will

Re: Google Code shutting down

2015-05-16 Thread Trevor Daniels
Trevor Daniels wrote Tuesday, May 12, 2015 9:15 PM I'm sure we'll find some undesirable features of Allura when we get down to the details, but that's what the next few weeks will tell us. I've pretty well completed my assessment of Allura at SourceForge, and find the facilities available

Re: Google Code shutting down

2015-05-16 Thread David Kastrup
Trevor Daniels t.dani...@treda.co.uk writes: Trevor Daniels wrote Tuesday, May 12, 2015 9:15 PM I'm sure we'll find some undesirable features of Allura when we get down to the details, but that's what the next few weeks will tell us. I've pretty well completed my assessment of Allura at

Re: Google Code shutting down

2015-05-16 Thread Trevor Daniels
Phil Holmes wrote Saturday, May 16, 2015 11:17 AM Trevor Daniels wrote Tuesday, May 12, 2015 9:15 PM I'm sure we'll find some undesirable features of Allura when we get down to the details, but that's what the next few weeks will tell us. I've pretty well completed my assessment of Allura

Re: Google Code shutting down

2015-05-16 Thread Trevor Daniels
David Kastrup wrote Saturday, May 16, 2015 11:11 AM Trevor Daniels wrote Tuesday, May 12, 2015 9:15 PM I'm sure we'll find some undesirable features of Allura when we get down to the details, but that's what the next few weeks will tell us. I've pretty well completed my assessment of

Re: Google Code shutting down

2015-05-16 Thread Phil Holmes
- Original Message - From: Trevor Daniels t.dani...@treda.co.uk To: Trevor Daniels t.dani...@treda.co.uk; James p...@gnu.org; Phil Holmes m...@philholmes.net Cc: lilypond-devel@gnu.org Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2015 10:44 AM Subject: Re: Google Code shutting down Trevor Daniels wrote

Re: Google Code shutting down

2015-05-12 Thread Carl Sorensen
On 5/11/15 11:06 AM, Trevor Daniels t.dani...@treda.co.uk wrote: The second, with 4369 issues, is https://sourceforge.net/p/testlily/issues/ I've not done anything to tailor this to our needs yet. I intend to do that over the next few days as I work through your requirements list. Anyone can

Re: Google Code shutting down

2015-05-12 Thread Trevor Daniels
Carl Sorensen wrote Tuesday, May 12, 2015 8:32 PM On 11/05/15 23:04, Trevor Daniels wrote: Phil Holmes wrote Monday, May 11, 2015 6:21 PM Have you investigated the API for patch and git-cl? I've quickly looked at Allura's API. It seems to contain all the features we would need. I've also

Re: Google Code shutting down

2015-05-12 Thread Carl Sorensen
On 5/12/15 6:46 AM, James p...@gnu.org wrote: On 11/05/15 23:04, Trevor Daniels wrote: Phil Holmes wrote Monday, May 11, 2015 6:21 PM Have you investigated the API for patch and git-cl? I've quickly looked at Allura's API. It seems to contain all the features we would need. I've also

Re: Google Code shutting down

2015-05-12 Thread Trevor Daniels
Carl, you wrote Tuesday, May 12, 2015 8:45 PM On 5/11/15 11:06 AM, Trevor Daniels t.dani...@treda.co.uk wrote: The second, with 4369 issues, is https://sourceforge.net/p/testlily/issues/ I've not done anything to tailor this to our needs yet. I intend to do that over the next few days as I

Re: Google Code shutting down

2015-05-12 Thread Trevor Daniels
James wrote Tuesday, May 12, 2015 1:46 PM Trevor Do we even need a new git-cl? I am no expert but wasn't that designed to get around the fact that we had to upload to two different places (one place for actual review and one for a note on the tracker). Does this new place come with it's

Re: Google Code shutting down

2015-05-12 Thread James
On 11/05/15 23:04, Trevor Daniels wrote: Phil Holmes wrote Monday, May 11, 2015 6:21 PM At some point we will need to freeze the Google version, copy them over and move to the new version. This is probably better done sooner than later, once we're sure that the move is correct. It will

Re: Google Code shutting down

2015-05-11 Thread Trevor Daniels
Trevor Daniels wrote Wednesday, May 06, 2015 10:05 PM I'm just importing the issue DB at the moment. I've now tried twice to import our Issue DB from GoogleCode to Allura at SourceForge. As previously reported the first attempt failed after 1112 issues. The second attempt also resulted in

Re: Google Code shutting down

2015-05-11 Thread Trevor Daniels
Phil Holmes wrote Monday, May 11, 2015 6:21 PM At some point we will need to freeze the Google version, copy them over and move to the new version. This is probably better done sooner than later, once we're sure that the move is correct. It will presumably also mean no updates to

Re: Google Code shutting down

2015-05-11 Thread Phil Holmes
- Original Message - From: Trevor Daniels t.dani...@treda.co.uk To: Phil Holmes m...@philholmes.net; Joseph Rushton Wakeling joseph.wakel...@webdrake.net; Werner LEMBERG w...@gnu.org; p...@gnu.org Cc: lilypond-devel@gnu.org Sent: Monday, May 11, 2015 6:06 PM Subject: Re: Google Code

Re: Google Code shutting down

2015-05-06 Thread Joseph Rushton Wakeling
On 03/05/15 16:53, Phil Holmes wrote: I'd be willing to start a draft requirements for issue handling document tomorrow, if no-one else is desperate. That'd be great, though it'd be even better if there could be clear requirements beyond merely those of issue handling -- code hosting, code

Re: Google Code shutting down

2015-05-06 Thread Trevor Daniels
Joseph Rushton Wakeling wrote Wednesday, May 06, 2015 9:37 PM Anyway, whenever you have something to share, I'll try and follow up on whether it's feasible with Launchpad. (BTW I recognize there are concerns about switching to another 3rd-party service, even if free software; so please

Re: Google Code shutting down

2015-05-05 Thread Trevor Daniels
Carl Sorensen wrote Monday, May 04, 2015 11:44 PM On 5/4/15 3:44 PM, Trevor Daniels t.dani...@treda.co.uk wrote: Trevor Daniels wrote Monday, May 04, 2015 10:01 PM OK, I've created a project on SourceForge and started downloading the issues DB from GoogleCode. [snip] You can see the

Re: Google Code shutting down

2015-05-04 Thread Trevor Daniels
Carl Sorensen wrote Monday, May 04, 2015 4:48 AM In searching around on Savannah's page, I found InDefero http://www.indefero.net/ which claims to be an open-source lightweight copy of Google Code. Unfortunately, it doesn't appear that there are any publicly available hosting sites using

Re: Google Code shutting down

2015-05-04 Thread David Kastrup
Carl Sorensen c_soren...@byu.edu writes: On 5/3/15 8:33 AM, Joseph Rushton Wakeling joseph.wakel...@webdrake.net wrote: On 10/04/15 09:34, Werner LEMBERG wrote: So the question is whether Launchpad has a usable API, right? Joseph, do you know more?c Just to follow up on this, I exchanged a

Re: Google Code shutting down

2015-05-04 Thread Trevor Daniels
David Kastrup wrote Monday, May 04, 2015 11:30 AM Anyone evaluated/tested/whatever Kallithea? URL:https://kallithea-scm.org/. It seems aligned to the Software Freedom Convervancy, so maybe we could get Savannah to support it if it does the job. Kallithea doesn't seem to have a native issue

Re: Google Code shutting down

2015-05-04 Thread David Kastrup
Trevor Daniels t.dani...@treda.co.uk writes: David Kastrup wrote Monday, May 04, 2015 11:30 AM Anyone evaluated/tested/whatever Kallithea? URL:https://kallithea-scm.org/. It seems aligned to the Software Freedom Convervancy, so maybe we could get Savannah to support it if it does the job.

Re: Google Code shutting down

2015-05-04 Thread Carl Sorensen
On 5/3/15 9:48 PM, Carl Sorensen c_soren...@byu.edu wrote: In searching around on Savannah's page, I found InDefero http://www.indefero.net/ which claims to be an open-source lightweight copy of Google Code. Unfortunately, it doesn't appear that there are any publicly available hosting sites

Re: Google Code shutting down

2015-05-04 Thread Federico Bruni
2015-05-04 14:46 GMT+02:00 Carl Sorensen c_soren...@byu.edu: More hunting around on Savannah led me to Apache Allura, which is claimed to be an open-source (Apache license) follow-on to the proprietary-software SourceForge. It uses git, has webhooks (

Re: Google Code shutting down

2015-05-04 Thread Trevor Daniels
Federico Bruni wrote Monday, May 04, 2015 2:53 PM Interesting! https://forge-allura.apache.org/p/allura/wiki/Features/ I think that the main alternatives are Launchpad (Affero GPL) and Apache Allura (Apache License). Launchpad provides also the hosting, while Allura should be deployed on

Re: Google Code shutting down

2015-05-04 Thread David Kastrup
Trevor Daniels t.dani...@treda.co.uk writes: Federico Bruni wrote Monday, May 04, 2015 2:53 PM Interesting! https://forge-allura.apache.org/p/allura/wiki/Features/ I think that the main alternatives are Launchpad (Affero GPL) and Apache Allura (Apache License). Launchpad provides also

Re: Google Code shutting down

2015-05-04 Thread Trevor Daniels
David Kastrup wrote Monday, May 04, 2015 5:21 PM Wasn't Savannah's main system Savane a fork of SourceForge's proprietary software version? Anybody have more of a clue about the relations between the various versions and what that might mean for our chances of getting this system adopted by

Re: Google Code shutting down

2015-05-04 Thread David Kastrup
Trevor Daniels t.dani...@treda.co.uk writes: David Kastrup wrote Monday, May 04, 2015 5:21 PM Wasn't Savannah's main system Savane a fork of SourceForge's proprietary software version? Anybody have more of a clue about the relations between the various versions and what that might mean for

Re: Google Code shutting down

2015-05-04 Thread Carl Sorensen
On 5/4/15 10:21 AM, David Kastrup d...@gnu.org wrote: Wasn't Savannah's main system Savane a fork of SourceForge's proprietary software version? Anybody have more of a clue about the relations between the various versions and what that might mean for our chances of getting this system adopted

Re: Google Code shutting down

2015-05-04 Thread Carl Sorensen
On 5/4/15 10:16 AM, Trevor Daniels t.dani...@treda.co.uk wrote: Ah, wait .. sourceforce have an importer from GoogleCode. I had to register to see it, but that's easy. After that, it's here https://sourceforge.net/p/import_project/google-code/ It says it will import Wiki pages, source code

Re: Google Code shutting down

2015-05-04 Thread David Kastrup
Carl Sorensen c_soren...@byu.edu writes: On 5/4/15 10:21 AM, David Kastrup d...@gnu.org wrote: If we have a really viable migration path out of non-Savannah hosting, it seems like putting our eggs not in too many outsourced baskets might save us from some future headaches like the Google code

Re: Google Code shutting down

2015-05-04 Thread Trevor Daniels
Carl Sorensen I'm fine if we can get everything on Savannah, but it seems to me that in the past, there was a feeling that Savane's bug tracking was significantly inferior to Google Code. I don't know, because I never used it. Just as a reminder, we had a very helpful interchange with the

Re: Google Code shutting down

2015-05-04 Thread Trevor Daniels
Trevor Daniels wrote Monday, May 04, 2015 10:01 PM OK, I've created a project on SourceForge and started downloading the issues DB from GoogleCode. [snip] You can see the progress here: https://sourceforge.net/p/testlilyissues/tickets/ Update: (one ladder, two snakes) 1. I now see that

Re: Google Code shutting down

2015-05-04 Thread Carl Sorensen
On 5/4/15 3:44 PM, Trevor Daniels t.dani...@treda.co.uk wrote: Trevor Daniels wrote Monday, May 04, 2015 10:01 PM OK, I've created a project on SourceForge and started downloading the issues DB from GoogleCode. [snip] You can see the progress here:

Re: Google Code shutting down

2015-05-04 Thread Trevor Daniels
Carl Sorensen wrote Monday, May 04, 2015 8:40 PM So perhaps it would be a good idea to test Allura on SourceForge, and see if we like it. If we do, then we could let the Savannah people know, and maybe they'd be willing to use it as their issue tracker. OK, I've created a project on

Re: Google Code shutting down

2015-05-04 Thread Carl Sorensen
On 5/4/15 1:16 PM, Trevor Daniels t.dani...@treda.co.uk wrote: Carl Sorensen I'm fine if we can get everything on Savannah, but it seems to me that in the past, there was a feeling that Savane's bug tracking was significantly inferior to Google Code. I don't know, because I never used it.

Re: Google Code shutting down

2015-05-04 Thread James Lowe
On 04/05/15 22:01, Trevor Daniels wrote: You can see the progress here: https://sourceforge.net/p/testlilyissues/tickets/ I'm getting Error 403 Read access required James ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org

Re: Google Code shutting down

2015-05-03 Thread Carl Sorensen
On 5/3/15 8:33 AM, Joseph Rushton Wakeling joseph.wakel...@webdrake.net wrote: On 10/04/15 09:34, Werner LEMBERG wrote: So the question is whether Launchpad has a usable API, right? Joseph, do you know more?c Just to follow up on this, I exchanged a few messages on Reddit with Colin Watson

Re: Google Code shutting down

2015-05-03 Thread Phil Holmes
- Original Message - From: Joseph Rushton Wakeling joseph.wakel...@webdrake.net To: Werner LEMBERG w...@gnu.org; p...@gnu.org Cc: lilypond-devel@gnu.org Sent: Sunday, May 03, 2015 3:33 PM Subject: Re: Google Code shutting down On 10/04/15 09:34, Werner LEMBERG wrote: So the question

Re: Google Code shutting down

2015-05-03 Thread Joseph Rushton Wakeling
On 10/04/15 09:34, Werner LEMBERG wrote: So the question is whether Launchpad has a usable API, right? Joseph, do you know more?c Just to follow up on this, I exchanged a few messages on Reddit with Colin Watson (who's leading the git-support effort) following this announcement:

Re: Google Code shutting down

2015-04-12 Thread Joseph Rushton Wakeling
On 10/04/15 09:34, Werner LEMBERG wrote: While I don't like bzr, the launchpad interface for reporting bugs and the like looks OK to me. So yes, this is a possible solution. I think this has already been mentioned but just to chip in that it isn't just about reviewing patches, patches have to

Re: Google Code shutting down

2015-04-09 Thread Werner LEMBERG
But the situation overall is a nuisance. Might be worth keeping a weather eye on Launchpad, as this is free software and is currently in the process of gaining git support: https://help.launchpad.net/Code/Git Interesting! It's been a while since I last used it, but it has a nice

Re: Google Code shutting down

2015-04-09 Thread James
hello, On 09/04/15 16:10, Werner LEMBERG wrote: But the situation overall is a nuisance. Might be worth keeping a weather eye on Launchpad, as this is free software and is currently in the process of gaining git support: https://help.launchpad.net/Code/Git Interesting! It's been a while

Re: Fwd: Google Code shutting down

2015-04-08 Thread Joseph Rushton Wakeling
On 13/03/15 12:51, David Kastrup wrote: GitLab (like GitHub) does not run on free software. They have some community version of their software freely available at least. Gitorious was eating its own dog food with regard to running on their free software version, but they have just been acquired

Re: Google Code shutting down

2015-03-16 Thread David Kastrup
Trevor Daniels t.dani...@treda.co.uk writes: Federico Bruni ha scritto Monday, March 16, 2015 8:01 AM Subject: Re: Google Code shutting down I had much better experience with Redmine (Ruby on Rails). You can see an example here: http://darktable.org/redmine/projects/darktable Redmine

Re: Google Code shutting down

2015-03-16 Thread Trevor Daniels
Federico Bruni ha scritto Monday, March 16, 2015 8:01 AM Subject: Re: Google Code shutting down I had much better experience with Redmine (Ruby on Rails). You can see an example here: http://darktable.org/redmine/projects/darktable Redmine looks rather overkill for our purposes

Re: Google Code shutting down

2015-03-16 Thread Federico Bruni
Il giorno lun 16 mar 2015 alle 5:23, Carl Sorensen c_soren...@byu.edu ha scritto: I've used GitLab for other projects. The issue tracker doesn't appear to me to be nearly as good as what we had set up at Google Code. Does anybody have any experience with bugzilla as an issue tracker? It

Re: Google Code shutting down

2015-03-15 Thread Carl Sorensen
On 3/13/15 5:10 AM, Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.ca wrote: On Fri, Mar 13, 2015 at 11:33:22AM +0100, Han-Wen Nienhuys wrote: I can click the export button so all the issues are migrated to github. Thoughts, ideas? Didn't someone setup a lilypond organization at github? There was

Re: Fwd: Google Code shutting down

2015-03-14 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys
On Fri, Mar 13, 2015 at 4:40 PM, Trevor Daniels t.dani...@treda.co.uk wrote: have a look at https://code.google.com/p/support-tools/wiki/IssueExporterTool That is quite useful, thanks. I've exported the LilyPond Issues DB to a JSON file on my laptop. 5Mb. It seems complete as far as the

Fwd: Google Code shutting down

2015-03-13 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys
:11 AM Subject: Google Code shutting down To: hanw...@gmail.com Code Hello, Earlier today, Google announced we will be turning down Google Code Project Hosting. The service started in 2006 with the goal of providing a scalable and reliable way of hosting open source projects. Since that time

Re: Fwd: Google Code shutting down

2015-03-13 Thread Graham Percival
On Fri, Mar 13, 2015 at 11:33:22AM +0100, Han-Wen Nienhuys wrote: I can click the export button so all the issues are migrated to github. Thoughts, ideas? Didn't someone setup a lilypond organization at github? There was some discussion about that, which spilled over to gnu-hackers or

Re: Fwd: Google Code shutting down

2015-03-13 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys
On Fri, Mar 13, 2015 at 12:04 PM, David Kastrup d...@gnu.org wrote: I suspect that there will not be much hope for transferring the Rietveld reviews over into something Git-based and reasonably equivalent, but they are less important than getting everything out of the issue tracker. Rietveld

Re: Fwd: Google Code shutting down

2015-03-13 Thread Urs Liska
-- Forwarded message -- From: google-code-nore...@google.com Date: Fri, Mar 13, 2015 at 2:11 AM Subject: Google Code shutting down To: hanw...@gmail.com Code Hello, Earlier today, Google announced we will be turning down Google Code Project Hosting. The service started in 2006

Re: Fwd: Google Code shutting down

2015-03-13 Thread David Kastrup
Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.ca writes: On Fri, Mar 13, 2015 at 11:33:22AM +0100, Han-Wen Nienhuys wrote: I can click the export button so all the issues are migrated to github. Thoughts, ideas? Didn't someone setup a lilypond organization at github? There was some discussion

Re: Fwd: Google Code shutting down

2015-03-13 Thread Trevor Daniels
David Kastrup wrote Friday, March 13, 2015 11:51 AM Subject: Re: Fwd: Google Code shutting down Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.ca writes: In addition to moving the issues, the issue handling scripts would need to be updated. Things like git-cl, patchy, and the whole patch

Re: Fwd: Google Code shutting down

2015-03-13 Thread David Kastrup
Han-Wen Nienhuys hanw...@gmail.com writes: I guess most of you have seen this by now. Not really. I can click the export button so all the issues are migrated to github. Thoughts, ideas? I don't really want LilyPond to move to GitHub. I prefer figuring out what resources we would need from

Re: Fwd: Google Code shutting down

2015-03-13 Thread David Kastrup
Trevor Daniels t.dani...@treda.co.uk writes: Han-Wen, you wrote Friday, March 13, 2015 1:45 PM On Fri, Mar 13, 2015 at 1:37 PM, Trevor Daniels t.dani...@treda.co.uk wrote: Two questions: (a) how do we take a copy of this data base to keep it safe, including all the follow-up

Re: Fwd: Google Code shutting down

2015-03-13 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys
On Fri, Mar 13, 2015 at 1:37 PM, Trevor Daniels t.dani...@treda.co.uk wrote: David Kastrup wrote Friday, March 13, 2015 11:51 AM Subject: Re: Fwd: Google Code shutting down Graham Percival gra...@percival-music.ca writes: In addition to moving the issues, the issue handling scripts would

Re: Fwd: Google Code shutting down

2015-03-13 Thread Trevor Daniels
Han-Wen, you wrote Friday, March 13, 2015 1:45 PM On Fri, Mar 13, 2015 at 1:37 PM, Trevor Daniels t.dani...@treda.co.uk wrote: Two questions: (a) how do we take a copy of this data base to keep it safe, including all the follow-up discussions? Making a CSV copy just seems to