Re: somebody needs to run staging before 29 Jan

2012-01-30 Thread Janek Warchoł
2012/1/30 Graham Percival : > I think there's confusion between Patchy staging-merge and Patchy > test-patches. I don't feel confused at all, don't worry about it. >> i decided to pause my other Lily work and focus on improving >> Patchy and our development workflow.  I took the approach of solvi

Re: somebody needs to run staging before 29 Jan

2012-01-30 Thread Graham Percival
On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 06:56:08PM +0100, Janek Warchoł wrote: > 2012/1/30 Graham Percival : > > that's ALREADY how it works for the staging-merge. > > I guess i mean something different than you do when i say "everything > gets done automatically". I think there's confusion between Patchy stagin

Re: somebody needs to run staging before 29 Jan

2012-01-30 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> I reworded the text and changed the example. It should now be > clearer from both text and picture. Yes, thanks. Werner ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-devel

Re: somebody needs to run staging before 29 Jan

2012-01-30 Thread Phil Holmes
- Original Message - From: "Janek Warchoł" To: "Graham Percival" Cc: "David Kastrup" ; Sent: Monday, January 30, 2012 5:56 PM Subject: Re: somebody needs to run staging before 29 Jan 2012/1/30 Graham Percival : On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 12:37:58PM +0100

Re: somebody needs to run staging before 29 Jan

2012-01-30 Thread Janek Warchoł
2012/1/30 Graham Percival : > On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 12:37:58PM +0100, Janek Warchoł wrote: >> 2012/1/29 David Kastrup : >> > So seriously: this needs to move to a different computer if LilyPond >> > development is of concern to you all. >> >> My work on Patchy (to make it more foolproof and more

Re: somebody needs to run staging before 29 Jan

2012-01-30 Thread David Kastrup
Werner LEMBERG writes: >> Let me just quote one item by screenshot [...] > > This looks excellent. However, I don't understand the last sentence. > What do you mean with `not transferred'? I reworded the text and changed the example. It should now be clearer from both text and picture. <> --

Re: somebody needs to run staging before 29 Jan

2012-01-30 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> Let me just quote one item by screenshot [...] This looks excellent. However, I don't understand the last sentence. What do you mean with `not transferred'? Werner ___ lilypond-devel mailing list lilypond-devel@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mai

Re: somebody needs to run staging before 29 Jan

2012-01-30 Thread Graham Percival
On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 04:39:31PM +0100, David Kastrup wrote: > "Phil Holmes" writes: > > > My other current concern is to wonder whether lots of people trying to > > get patchy running might not collide with each other. I don't think so; once the first set of commits were pushed to master, I w

Re: somebody needs to run staging before 29 Jan

2012-01-30 Thread David Kastrup
"Phil Holmes" writes: > My other current concern is to wonder whether lots of people trying to > get patchy running might not collide with each other. As I understand > it, the key patchy function is to pull patches from staging, The current state of staging. It does not test individually. >

Re: somebody needs to run staging before 29 Jan

2012-01-30 Thread Phil Holmes
- Original Message - From: "Graham Percival" To: "Phil Holmes" Cc: ; "David Kastrup" Sent: Monday, January 30, 2012 1:40 PM Subject: Re: somebody needs to run staging before 29 Jan On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 01:35:24PM -, Phil Holmes wrote: Origi

Re: somebody needs to run staging before 29 Jan

2012-01-30 Thread David Kastrup
Werner LEMBERG writes: >> [Applying rietveld 5595043 to git afb4c5fb] >> >>> It means running your own files that use this feature, and reading >>> the docs to see whether the docs as well as the new incarnation of >>> the feature make sense to you. >> >> It was really good that you have been a

Re: somebody needs to run staging before 29 Jan

2012-01-30 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> [Applying rietveld 5595043 to git afb4c5fb] > >> It means running your own files that use this feature, and reading >> the docs to see whether the docs as well as the new incarnation of >> the feature make sense to you. > > It was really good that you have been a pain in the neck, since your >

Re: somebody needs to run staging before 29 Jan

2012-01-30 Thread David Kastrup
"Phil Holmes" writes: > Original Message - > From: "David Kastrup" > To: > Sent: Monday, January 30, 2012 1:07 PM > Subject: Re: somebody needs to run staging before 29 Jan > > >> "Phil Holmes" writes: >> >>> I a

Re: somebody needs to run staging before 29 Jan

2012-01-30 Thread Graham Percival
On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 01:35:24PM -, Phil Holmes wrote: > Original Message - From: "David Kastrup" > To: > Sent: Monday, January 30, 2012 1:07 PM > Subject: Re: somebody needs to run staging before 29 Jan > > >Nope. It uses whatever repository

Re: somebody needs to run staging before 29 Jan

2012-01-30 Thread Graham Percival
On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 02:07:44PM +0100, David Kastrup wrote: > "Phil Holmes" writes: > > > "smtp_command: msmtp -C ~/.msmtp-patchy -t" means nothing to me. > > That is command for mailing the completion message somewhere. I have no > idea what msmtp is supposed to be, ah yes, I forgot about

Re: somebody needs to run staging before 29 Jan

2012-01-30 Thread Phil Holmes
Original Message - From: "David Kastrup" To: Sent: Monday, January 30, 2012 1:07 PM Subject: Re: somebody needs to run staging before 29 Jan "Phil Holmes" writes: I assume it uses the "normal" git cache on my computer Nope. It uses whatever

Re: somebody needs to run staging before 29 Jan

2012-01-30 Thread Reinhold Kainhofer
On 2012-01-30 12:59, David Kastrup wrote: Graham Percival writes: On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 12:47:11PM +0100, David Kastrup wrote: The test-patches.py script can likely make use of the techniques in lilypond-patchy-staging.ly with regard to doing an offside build with a defined starting point n

Re: somebody needs to run staging before 29 Jan

2012-01-30 Thread David Kastrup
"Phil Holmes" writes: > I assume it uses the "normal" git cache on my computer Nope. It uses whatever repository you specify in the LILYPOND_GIT environment variable. > - is there any danger if this is also my dev machine with other > changed files in the git filesystem (e.g. the LSR copies, f

Re: somebody needs to run staging before 29 Jan

2012-01-30 Thread Phil Holmes
- Original Message - From: "Graham Percival" To: "David Kastrup" Cc: Sent: Monday, January 30, 2012 12:08 PM Subject: Re: somebody needs to run staging before 29 Jan On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 12:59:57PM +0100, David Kastrup wrote: Graham Percival writes: >

Re: somebody needs to run staging before 29 Jan

2012-01-30 Thread Graham Percival
On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 12:59:57PM +0100, David Kastrup wrote: > Graham Percival writes: > > > Don't get confused here. Don't scare people away from doing the > > staging-merge by talking about test-patches.py. > > I am not sure what the problem is with anybody else running it. ditto, other th

Re: somebody needs to run staging before 29 Jan

2012-01-30 Thread David Kastrup
Graham Percival writes: > On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 12:47:11PM +0100, David Kastrup wrote: >> The test-patches.py script can likely make use of the techniques in >> lilypond-patchy-staging.ly with regard to doing an offside build with a >> defined starting point not relying on whatever happens to b

Re: somebody needs to run staging before 29 Jan

2012-01-30 Thread Graham Percival
On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 12:47:11PM +0100, David Kastrup wrote: > The test-patches.py script can likely make use of the techniques in > lilypond-patchy-staging.ly with regard to doing an offside build with a > defined starting point not relying on whatever happens to be checked out > in the main rep

Re: somebody needs to run staging before 29 Jan

2012-01-30 Thread Graham Percival
On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 12:37:58PM +0100, Janek Warchoł wrote: > 2012/1/29 David Kastrup : > > So seriously: this needs to move to a different computer if LilyPond > > development is of concern to you all. > > My work on Patchy (to make it more foolproof and more > operator-friendly, i.e. > 'run-a

Re: somebody needs to run staging before 29 Jan

2012-01-30 Thread David Kastrup
Janek Warchoł writes: > 2012/1/29 David Kastrup : >> So seriously: this needs to move to a different computer if LilyPond >> development is of concern to you all. > > My work on Patchy (to make it more foolproof and more > operator-friendly, i.e. > 'run-a-script-and-everything-gets-done-automatic

Re: somebody needs to run staging before 29 Jan

2012-01-30 Thread Janek Warchoł
2012/1/29 David Kastrup : > So seriously: this needs to move to a different computer if LilyPond > development is of concern to you all. My work on Patchy (to make it more foolproof and more operator-friendly, i.e. 'run-a-script-and-everything-gets-done-automatically') will unfortunately take some

Re: somebody needs to run staging before 29 Jan

2012-01-29 Thread David Kastrup
Colin Campbell writes: > On 12-01-29 11:04 AM, David Kastrup wrote: > >> Thanks. Note that this does _not_ mean regtests and doc builds: we have >> automatisms for that. It means running your own files that use this >> feature, and reading the docs to see whether the docs as well as the new >>

Re: somebody needs to run staging before 29 Jan

2012-01-29 Thread Colin Campbell
On 12-01-29 11:04 AM, David Kastrup wrote: Werner LEMBERG writes: OK. BTW, I've meant staging, not master. Sorry for the thinko. Same thing. Once it is in staging, it will move forward _automatically_ to master potentially within hours unless there is a compilation/testing error. Humpf.

Re: somebody needs to run staging before 29 Jan

2012-01-29 Thread David Kastrup
Werner LEMBERG writes: > [Applying rietveld 5595043 to git afb4c5fb] > >> It means running your own files that use this feature, and reading >> the docs to see whether the docs as well as the new incarnation of >> the feature make sense to you. > > It was really good that you have been a pain in

Re: somebody needs to run staging before 29 Jan

2012-01-29 Thread Werner LEMBERG
[Applying rietveld 5595043 to git afb4c5fb] > It means running your own files that use this feature, and reading > the docs to see whether the docs as well as the new incarnation of > the feature make sense to you. It was really good that you have been a pain in the neck, since your patch causes

Re: somebody needs to run staging before 29 Jan

2012-01-29 Thread David Kastrup
Werner LEMBERG writes: >>> OK. BTW, I've meant staging, not master. Sorry for the thinko. >> >> Same thing. Once it is in staging, it will move forward >> _automatically_ to master potentially within hours unless there is a >> compilation/testing error. > > Humpf. I wasn't fully aware of this

Re: somebody needs to run staging before 29 Jan

2012-01-29 Thread Werner LEMBERG
>> OK. BTW, I've meant staging, not master. Sorry for the thinko. > > Same thing. Once it is in staging, it will move forward > _automatically_ to master potentially within hours unless there is a > compilation/testing error. Humpf. I wasn't fully aware of this automatism. OK, will apply man

Re: somebody needs to run staging before 29 Jan

2012-01-29 Thread David Kastrup
Werner LEMBERG writes: >> So check it out at least once it is in Patch-review orderly. That >> means that it is regtest-clean, but that does not mean that a >> feature change will make its main users happy. > > OK. BTW, I've meant staging, not master. Sorry for the thinko. Same thing. Once i

Re: somebody needs to run staging before 29 Jan

2012-01-29 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> So check it out at least once it is in Patch-review orderly. That > means that it is regtest-clean, but that does not mean that a > feature change will make its main users happy. OK. BTW, I've meant staging, not master. Sorry for the thinko. > And I might point out that it was you who _repe

Re: somebody needs to run staging before 29 Jan

2012-01-29 Thread David Kastrup
Werner LEMBERG writes: >> I am not sure whether the q stuff should be slated for 2.16. It >> greatly simplifies things and decreases potential for problems, but >> I don't see people reporting any test results, and it certainly has >> seen less user contact than my totally new code. > > As soon

Re: somebody needs to run staging before 29 Jan

2012-01-29 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> I am not sure whether the q stuff should be slated for 2.16. It > greatly simplifies things and decreases potential for problems, but > I don't see people reporting any test results, and it certainly has > seen less user contact than my totally new code. As soon it is in master, I'll check it.

Re: somebody needs to run staging before 29 Jan

2012-01-29 Thread David Kastrup
Graham Percival writes: > On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 03:34:45PM +0100, David Kastrup wrote: >> Patchy has been running for about 6 hours on my laptop trying to get the >> current staging (which is one trivial commit ahead of master) checked. >> And is still on it. > > ??? if you look in the build d

Re: somebody needs to run staging before 29 Jan

2012-01-29 Thread Graham Percival
On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 03:34:45PM +0100, David Kastrup wrote: > Patchy has been running for about 6 hours on my laptop trying to get the > current staging (which is one trivial commit ahead of master) checked. > And is still on it. ??? if you look in the build dir, what logs does it have? I mea

Re: somebody needs to run staging before 29 Jan

2012-01-29 Thread m...@apollinemike.com
On Jan 29, 2012, at 3:46 PM, Phil Holmes wrote: > - Original Message - From: "David Kastrup" > To: > Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2012 2:34 PM > Subject: Re: somebody needs to run staging before 29 Jan > > >> James writes: >> >>> Hello,

Re: somebody needs to run staging before 29 Jan

2012-01-29 Thread Phil Holmes
- Original Message - From: "David Kastrup" To: Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2012 2:34 PM Subject: Re: somebody needs to run staging before 29 Jan James writes: Hello, On 24 January 2012 22:20, David Kastrup wrote: Janek Warchoł writes: Keeping the staging-merge goin

Re: somebody needs to run staging before 29 Jan

2012-01-29 Thread David Kastrup
James writes: > Hello, > > On 24 January 2012 22:20, David Kastrup wrote: >> Janek Warchoł writes: >>   Keeping the staging-merge going would be about five people committing to 50€ a month.  That is, of course, not enough for me to live on.  It merely means that taking on this du

Re: somebody needs to run staging before 29 Jan

2012-01-29 Thread James
David, On 29 January 2012 08:48, David Kastrup wrote: > James writes: > >> --snip-- >> james@jameslilydev2:~/Desktop/patchy$ ./run-lilypond-staging.sh >> remote: Counting objects: 83, done. >> remote: Compressing objects: 100% (57/57), done. >> remote: Total 57 (delta 45), reused 0 (delta 0) >>

Re: somebody needs to run staging before 29 Jan

2012-01-29 Thread David Kastrup
James writes: > --snip-- > james@jameslilydev2:~/Desktop/patchy$ ./run-lilypond-staging.sh > remote: Counting objects: 83, done. > remote: Compressing objects: 100% (57/57), done. > remote: Total 57 (delta 45), reused 0 (delta 0) > Unpacking objects: 100% (57/57), done. > From ssh://git.sv.gnu.or

Re: somebody needs to run staging before 29 Jan

2012-01-25 Thread David Kastrup
James writes: > However when I run patchy I am getting > > --snip-- > james@jameslilydev2:~/Desktop/patchy$ ./run-lilypond-staging.sh > remote: Counting objects: 83, done. > remote: Compressing objects: 100% (57/57), done. > remote: Total 57 (delta 45), reused 0 (delta 0) > Unpacking objects: 100

Re: somebody needs to run staging before 29 Jan

2012-01-25 Thread Graham Percival
On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 09:10:16AM +, James wrote: > Initialized empty Git repository in > /home/james/Desktop/patchy/lilypond-autobuild/.git/ > fatal: attempt to fetch/clone from a shallow repository > fatal: The remote end hung up unexpectedly It wants to have a full git clone git://git.sv

Re: somebody needs to run staging before 29 Jan

2012-01-25 Thread James
Hello, On 24 January 2012 22:20, David Kastrup wrote: > Janek Warchoł writes: > >>>   Keeping the staging-merge going would be about five people >>> committing to 50€ a month.  That is, of course, not enough for me to >>> live on.  It merely means that taking on this duty will not further >>> re

Re: somebody needs to run staging before 29 Jan

2012-01-24 Thread David Kastrup
Janek Warchoł writes: >>  Keeping the staging-merge going would be about five people >> committing to 50€ a month.  That is, of course, not enough for me to >> live on.  It merely means that taking on this duty will not further >> reduce the amount of time I can spend on LilyPond in total. > > T

Re: somebody needs to run staging before 29 Jan

2012-01-24 Thread Janek Warchoł
2012/1/24 David Kastrup : > I'll hopefully will have received a new laptop by then, but it needs > more setup work than the last one (I can't just take over the hard disk > like previously, as it is ATA->SATA). > > It will be a Core duo, but still not really fast.  Obviously putting > myself respon

Re: somebody needs to run staging before 29 Jan

2012-01-24 Thread Francisco Vila
2012/1/24 Graham Percival : > In order to reduce our bus factor[1] -- especially considering the > distinctly non-zero possibility that I'll be gone at the end of > March -- somebody else needs to run the Patchy staging-merge > script.  To make this more presssing, I am refusing to run this > scrip

Re: somebody needs to run staging before 29 Jan

2012-01-24 Thread David Kastrup
Graham Percival writes: > In order to reduce our bus factor[1] -- especially considering the > distinctly non-zero possibility that I'll be gone at the end of > March -- somebody else needs to run the Patchy staging-merge > script. To make this more presssing, I am refusing to run this > script

Re: somebody needs to run staging before 29 Jan

2012-01-24 Thread Janek Warchoł
2012/1/24 Graham Percival : > 1. more people need to know how to run the script. > (it's not hard; far easier than setting up apache) I'm working on Patchy with Julien. Please be patient - i have a few exams on university (last one on February 2nd). > On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 01:08:21PM +0100,

Re: somebody needs to run staging before 29 Jan

2012-01-24 Thread Graham Percival
On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 01:08:21PM +0100, m...@apollinemike.com wrote: > >2. it would be good to have something in the CG about Patchy. > > ...you can do this. I have 3.5 hours remaining until Jan 29. Given how often we have emergencies come up, I think I need to reserve my time for those. If no

Re: somebody needs to run staging before 29 Jan

2012-01-24 Thread mike
1. more people need to know how to run the script. (it's not hard; far easier than setting up apache) I can do this if... 2. it would be good to have something in the CG about Patchy. ...you can do this. I also think that Patchy needs to be part of the LilyPond source. Cheers, MS __

somebody needs to run staging before 29 Jan

2012-01-24 Thread Graham Percival
In order to reduce our bus factor[1] -- especially considering the distinctly non-zero possibility that I'll be gone at the end of March -- somebody else needs to run the Patchy staging-merge script. To make this more presssing, I am refusing to run this script myself after 29 Jan 2012. [1] http: