Re: elegant compound time signatures

2008-10-20 Thread Hans Aberg
On 20 Oct 2008, at 06:53, Graham Percival wrote: On Sun, Oct 19, 2008 at 04:36:48PM +0200, Hans Aberg wrote: This gankino horo snip is typeset as (2+2)+(2+1)+(2+2), again not wrong, but scores use the styles 4+3+4 or (2+2)+3+(2+2). (Hitting the same 2+1 problem.) What, like this? I

help with tuplets

2008-10-20 Thread Marek Klein
Anyone can help me with decoding of this music?: http://gregoriana.sk/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/tuplet.jpg Is this correct transcription?: {\times 2/3 {e8 e d} \times 2/3 {e4 f8} \times 4/5 {g16 a c b g} r8 g \times 2/3 {d'8 c b} \times 3/2 {a4 g8} f4 \times 3/2 {g8 f e} \times 2/3 {d4 c8} }

Re: help with tuplets

2008-10-20 Thread Mark Knoop
At 10:21 on 20 Oct 2008, Marek Klein wrote: Is the fraction 3/2 correct for the groups with number 2 over it? Musicaly, I would like better 1/2... Or? The 2s in the original make no sense, and look as though they should be 3s (triplets). But perhaps with some more context they might mean

Re: help with tuplets

2008-10-20 Thread Marek Klein
It is one voice sacred song on slovak text from Eugen Suchon (1908 - 1993) - slovak composer and university professor of composition; one of his late compositions. 2008/10/20 Mark Knoop [EMAIL PROTECTED] At 10:21 on 20 Oct 2008, Marek Klein wrote: Is the fraction 3/2 correct for the groups

Re: elegant compound time signatures

2008-10-20 Thread Trevor Daniels
Hans I'm not familiar with the whole rhythmic requirement but this seems to reproduce the second bar of the snippet correctly. Unfortunately subdivideBeams still must be turned on/off manually if the (2+2) pattern is required. The key is setting the beatLength to 8 rather than the 16

Re: elegant compound time signatures

2008-10-20 Thread Graham Percival
Trevor: a top-post in this case makes the thread really bloody confusing to read. (I know this email compounds the problem, but I've given up on this thread) Hans: at the risk of sounding grumpy, did you try compiling my example? I believe it does everything you want. Trevor again: at the risk

Re: elegant compound time signatures

2008-10-20 Thread Joseph Wakeling
Graham Percival wrote: Hans: at the risk of sounding grumpy, did you try compiling my example? I believe it does everything you want. One thing your snippet doesn't display -- time signatures of the form, 3+3+2 8 Is this possible? The other alternative time signature form is something

Re: elegant compound time signatures

2008-10-20 Thread Hans Aberg
On 20 Oct 2008, at 11:21, Graham Percival wrote: Hans: at the risk of sounding grumpy, did you try compiling my example? I believe it does everything you want. Yes, I think it was clear from my reply. I mentioned that although writing in each measure \unset subdivideBeams \unset

Re: elegant compound time signatures

2008-10-20 Thread Trevor Daniels
Graham Percival Monday, October 20, 2008 10:21 AM Trevor: a top-post in this case makes the thread really bloody confusing to read. (I know this email compounds the problem, but I've given up on this thread) Perhaps. But having to scroll down looking for additions can be equally annoying.

Re: elegant compound time signatures

2008-10-20 Thread Graham Percival
On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 12:36:20PM +0200, Hans Aberg wrote: On 20 Oct 2008, at 11:21, Graham Percival wrote: Hans: at the risk of sounding grumpy, did you try compiling my example? I believe it does everything you want. Yes, I think it was clear from my reply. I mentioned that although

Re: elegant compound time signatures

2008-10-20 Thread Graham Percival
On Mon, 20 Oct 2008 11:41:22 +0100 Trevor Daniels [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So (being more positive) do you or anyone have a real example when #(override-beam...) stuff is essential, i.e., when beamGrouping doesn't work? That would be a useful addition to the manual, or alternatively it

Re: elegant compound time signatures

2008-10-20 Thread Hans Aberg
On 20 Oct 2008, at 13:15, Graham Percival wrote: I managed to get this working without individual tweaks. It's messy, but once it's all set up, you can write any number of bars and get the 2_2, 3, 4 beaming. If you want the final 4 to be a 2_2 as well, it should be obvious how to make that

Re: elegant compound time signatures

2008-10-20 Thread Joseph Wakeling
Graham Percival wrote: One thing your snippet doesn't display -- time signatures of the form, 3+3+2 8 Is this possible? Yes, see the very first message in this thread! Forgive me, that was badly phrased. What I was really meaning to ask was if you could add this second case as an

help with tuplets

2008-10-20 Thread Marek Klein
Anyone can help me with decoding of this music?: http://gregoriana.sk/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/tuplet.jpg Is this correct transcription?: {\times 2/3 {e8 e d} \times 2/3 {e4 f8} \times 4/5 {g16 a c b g} r8 g \times 2/3 {d'8 c b} \times 3/2 {a4 g8} f4 \times 3/2 {g8 f e} \times 2/3 {d4 c8} }

Re: elegant compound time signatures

2008-10-20 Thread Hans Aberg
On 20 Oct 2008, at 12:53, Graham Percival wrote: The second problem is that LilyPond beamings varies quite a bit from version to version, so sprinkling, so this solution may not be stable. This shouldn't be a problem if you set up the overrides correctly, and as long as there aren't any

truly elegant compound time signatures

2008-10-20 Thread Graham Percival
Dear all, I am pleased to re-announce that I am an idiot. Please ignore the previous message about elegant compound time signatures; the attached file is *much* better. - arbitrary time signatures, with arbitrary compound-ness. - more aesthetically pleasing graphical display, including less

Re: elegant compound time signatures

2008-10-20 Thread Graham Percival
On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 02:16:56PM +0200, Hans Aberg wrote: On 20 Oct 2008, at 13:15, Graham Percival wrote: treat it like the global voice that many people use for rehearsal marks and the like. Thank you, I saw it, though I find hard to understand what the second bracelet group does: {

Re: elegant compound time signatures

2008-10-20 Thread Graham Percival
On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 02:23:25PM +0200, Joseph Wakeling wrote: I don't think I have the second email you sent ... ? I only have emails with the same subject as this mail. Whoops! I forgot to set up my lilypond-user alias, so I tried to send that email to a non-existant mailing list. Sent

Re: elegant compound time signatures

2008-10-20 Thread Graham Percival
I managed to get this working without individual tweaks. It's messy, but once it's all set up, you can write any number of bars and get the 2_2, 3, 4 beaming. If you want the final 4 to be a 2_2 as well, it should be obvious how to make that happen. Just add a \repeat unfold around the second

Re: elegant compound time signatures

2008-10-20 Thread Hans Aberg
On 20 Oct 2008, at 15:01, Graham Percival wrote: ... I find hard to understand what the second bracelet group does: { \set subdivideBeams = ##t \set beatLength = #(ly:make-moment 1 8) s4 \unset subdivideBeams \unset beatLength s8. s4 } This gives you the single beam between the 2nd and

Re: truly elegant compound time signatures

2008-10-20 Thread Joseph Wakeling
Graham Percival wrote: I am pleased to re-announce that I am an idiot. Please ignore the previous message about elegant compound time signatures; the attached file is *much* better. I'm afraid I get horrible horrible errors with the files you attached :-( The resulting output has no time

Re: truly elegant compound time signatures

2008-10-20 Thread Hans Aberg
On 20 Oct 2008, at 15:00, Graham Percival wrote: I am pleased to re-announce that I am an idiot. Ahem... Please ignore the previous message about elegant compound time signatures; the attached file is *much* better. - arbitrary time signatures, with arbitrary compound-ness. - more

Re: truly elegant compound time signatures

2008-10-20 Thread Jonathan Kulp
If you delete the % comments from the scheme bit it runs without errors. The markups are nice but they make the notes slide over to the right. Jon Hans Aberg wrote: On 20 Oct 2008, at 15:00, Graham Percival wrote: I am pleased to re-announce that I am an idiot. Ahem... Please ignore

Re: truly elegant compound time signatures

2008-10-20 Thread Graham Percival
On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 03:18:17PM +0200, Joseph Wakeling wrote: Graham Percival wrote: I am pleased to re-announce that I am an idiot. Please ignore the previous message about elegant compound time signatures; the attached file is *much* better. I'm afraid I get horrible horrible

Re: elegant compound time signatures

2008-10-20 Thread Hans Aberg
On 20 Oct 2008, at 12:53, Graham Percival wrote: There is a need of a more general beaming pattern selection scheme. To be picky, this is a problem about subdivided beams, not the main beams. From what I can see, one needs to create a general trees structure, as generated by + and

Re: overhead projection of lilypond scores

2008-10-20 Thread Gerry Prosser
** Reply to note from Trevor Daniels [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon, 13 Oct 2008 18:22:00 +0100 Thanks to those who offered advice last week! I almost got to the point of incorporating lily into Sunday's PPT, but it was not quite good enough this time. Trevor's snippets were very useful: colouring any

Re: overhead projection of lilypond scores

2008-10-20 Thread Jonathan Kulp
Not sure if you'll like this suggestion or not, but I created a yellow-on-blue score image by creating a cropped png with transparent background (all the score stuff turned yellow of course), then used the Open-Office Presentation program to put the image on a slide and then change the

Drum parts and horizontal beams

2008-10-20 Thread canduc
Hi everybody. I'm trying to write a drum part, but I'm not able to obtain perfectly orizontal beams. For example when I write two eight notes, one of snare drum (corresponding to a c') and the other of bass drum (e), their connection beam is oblique. I would like to obtain the snare drum stem

Re: Drum parts and horizontal beams

2008-10-20 Thread Jonathan Kulp
Add this code inside each \new DrumVoice block: \override Beam #'damping = #+inf.0 So a whole block looks like this: \new DrumVoice { \override Beam #'damping = #+inf.0 \stemUp cymc8 \repeat unfold 10 hhho cymc } Jon canduc wrote: Hi everybody. I'm trying to

Re: help with tuplets

2008-10-20 Thread Mark Polesky
For what it's worth, you can change the tuplet number with this command: \override TupletNumber #'text = 2 Here's the example: \version 2.11.62-1 duplet = \once \override TupletNumber #'text = 2 \new Staff \with { \remove

Re: truly elegant compound time signatures

2008-10-20 Thread Graham Percival
On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 04:04:50PM +0200, Joseph Wakeling wrote: Graham Percival wrote: Mao, I added the comments just before sending the file, and forgot that scheme used a different symbol for comments. The attached file fixes this. Very nice! A couple of comments: first (I guess

Re: truly elegant compound time signatures

2008-10-20 Thread Neil Puttock
2008/10/20 Joseph Wakeling [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Very nice! A couple of comments: first (I guess you know this) the bracketed (3+3+2) etc. markup should surely not affect the horizontal music spacing as it does. Is there anything that can be done? \with-dimensions #''(0 . 0) #'(0 . 0) for the

Re: truly elegant compound time signatures

2008-10-20 Thread Joseph Wakeling
Graham Percival wrote: It's not markup. I've changed the way the time signature is displayed. The parenthesis is part of the time signature. Sorry, that was my bad phrasing (again). I understood perfectly well what it was -- if it wasn't part of the time signature, the spacing wouldn't have

Re: truly elegant compound time signatures

2008-10-20 Thread Joseph Wakeling
Neil Puttock wrote: 2008/10/20 Joseph Wakeling [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Very nice! A couple of comments: first (I guess you know this) the bracketed (3+3+2) etc. markup should surely not affect the horizontal music spacing as it does. Is there anything that can be done? \with-dimensions #''(0