Re: Thin bars

2009-01-19 Thread Dmytro O. Redchuk
Hello, here is the doc: http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.12/Documentation/user/lilypond-internals/BarLine#BarLine and snip: % - \layout { \context { \Score \override BarLine #'hair-thickn

Re: Thin bars

2009-01-19 Thread Fibonacci Prower
Well, I just tried printing the document with Adobe Reader under WinXP. At least the bars have just the right length, but they still look too thick. Even if I still used Evince, I could take care of that if there were any way to hand-tune the length and thickness of the bars. How do I do that? 200

Re: tuplet bracket required, override doesn't work?

2009-01-19 Thread Jonathan Kulp
Joe Neeman wrote: On Mon, 2009-01-19 at 18:34 -0600, Jonathan Kulp wrote: Tom Hall wrote: Hello List A triplet that begins with a quaver (8) rest, followed by a crotchet (4) note, by default prints no bracket. This I thought unusual, more so that an overide as below seems to make no change eit

Re: tuplet bracket required, override doesn't work?

2009-01-19 Thread Joe Neeman
On Mon, 2009-01-19 at 18:34 -0600, Jonathan Kulp wrote: > Tom Hall wrote: > > Hello List > > > > A triplet that begins with a quaver (8) rest, followed by a crotchet (4) > > note, > > by default prints no bracket. This I thought unusual, more so that an > > overide as > > below seems to make no

Re: spacing notes question

2009-01-19 Thread Chip
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Re: tuplet bracket required, override doesn't work?

2009-01-19 Thread Jonathan Kulp
Tom Hall wrote: Hello List A triplet that begins with a quaver (8) rest, followed by a crotchet (4) note, by default prints no bracket. This I thought unusual, more so that an overide as below seems to make no change either. Is there a simple way to have brackkets print by default in such cases?

Re: spacing notes question

2009-01-19 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi Chip, How do I resolve this? When it comes to spacing, I only resort to "spacer notes" in rare circumstances — instead, I prefer to manipulate the X-extent of the objects, to force the space I need. Here's an example in this case: % \version "2.12.0" \include "english.ly"

spacing notes question

2009-01-19 Thread Chip
r16 a a8 a16 a8 g16-\bendAfter #-4 In the above snippet the drop at the end of the measure is cut short by the barline. I reviewed the info in the manuals about spacer notes but just don't get how to insert a little extra space between the barline and the drop. Right now the drop line gets cut

tuplet bracket required, override doesn't work?

2009-01-19 Thread Tom Hall
Hello List A triplet that begins with a quaver (8) rest, followed by a crotchet (4) note, by default prints no bracket. This I thought unusual, more so that an overide as below seems to make no change either. Is there a simple way to have brackkets print by default in such cases? \override Tuple

Re: Suggestion for Notation Reference

2009-01-19 Thread Mats Bengtsson
Jonathan Kulp wrote: I don't know. This is definitely a strange example. The \mark command is meant to insert something over a barline, so maybe it'd be best to delete this example altogether and reword things a bit so that the example with "colla parte" is the only one illustrating this

Re: Suggestion for Notation Reference

2009-01-19 Thread Jonathan Kulp
Lasse Rempe wrote: How about "(Reprise)", which is similar to the structural indications that the \mark command is meant for? Image attached. If this looks o.k. then I'll make the patch. I will reiterate my opinion that, in the attached snippet, a reader would interpret the text to corre

Re: Suggestion for Notation Reference

2009-01-19 Thread Lasse Rempe
How about "(Reprise)", which is similar to the structural indications that the \mark command is meant for? Image attached. If this looks o.k. then I'll make the patch. I will reiterate my opinion that, in the attached snippet, a reader would interpret the text to correspond to the beginni

Re: Suggestion for Notation Reference

2009-01-19 Thread Jonathan Kulp
Graham Percival wrote: On Sun, Jan 18, 2009 at 08:27:52PM +0100, Reinhold Kainhofer wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Am Sonntag, 18. Januar 2009 19:32:45 schrieb Lasse Rempe: In 1.8.1, the following is used as an example for text marks: c4 \mark "Allegro" c c c Tempo indi

Re: Suggestion for Notation Reference

2009-01-19 Thread Graham Percival
On Sun, Jan 18, 2009 at 08:27:52PM +0100, Reinhold Kainhofer wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 > > Am Sonntag, 18. Januar 2009 19:32:45 schrieb Lasse Rempe: > > In 1.8.1, the following is used as an example for text marks: > > > > c4 \mark "Allegro" c c c > > Tempo indication

Re: Suggestion for Notation Reference

2009-01-19 Thread Lasse Rempe
Reinhold Kainhofer wrote: No, \mark is mainly used for naming subparts A, B, C, ... These marks are centered over the bar line. Cheers, Reinhold Yes, I am aware of this (this is the only thing I use it for, in fact). However, the section in question discusses placing more expansive text (i.e.

Re: "circa" metronome mark

2009-01-19 Thread James E. Bailey
Am 19.01.2009 um 20:27 schrieb J. Van Thuyne: As the subjoined code obviously isn't working, how exactly would you code this in a correct manner? \tempo "Grave, solemn." 2 = 54-56 I presume this property will only accept numbers, not a minus sign. How can it be overridden? Best regar

Re: Suggestion for Notation Reference

2009-01-19 Thread Reinhold Kainhofer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Am Montag, 19. Januar 2009 02:23:51 schrieb Lasse Rempe: > Would you consider "Menuetto" / "Trio" as appropriate uses of the \mark > command? If so, these could perhaps be used in the example. > > But even in these cases I would suggest that text in th

"circa" metronome mark

2009-01-19 Thread J . Van Thuyne
As the subjoined code obviously isn't working, how exactly would you code this in a correct manner? \tempo "Grave, solemn." 2 = 54-56 I presume this property will only accept numbers, not a minus sign. How can it be overridden? Best regards, Jethro. ___

Re: \skip substitute in lyrics?

2009-01-19 Thread Paul Scott
Alberto Simões wrote: Kieren MacMillan wrote: Hi Alberto Is there any way to compact this kind of construct? The simplest way is probably sopWordsB = \lyricmode { \repeat "unfold" 48 { \skip 4 } Re- cor- da- ... } 1. Would s4 work for \skip 4? I haven't \skip for m

Re: lilypond-user Digest, Vol 74, Issue 101

2009-01-19 Thread Tim Reeves
> > On Fri, 16 Jan 2009 11:59:47 -0700 > Andrew Hawryluk wrote: > > > Evince has a problem with the barlines (it's a bug). On Ubuntu, I work > > in Evince while I'm writing, but I print the final PDF from Adobe > > Acrobat. > > xpdf also does a good job and is lighter than Acroread. It's in th

Re: splitting chords entered as <>^"with stuff" \etc

2009-01-19 Thread Tim Woodall
On Mon, 19 Jan 2009, Carl D. Sorensen wrote: I find \relative to work quite nicely for chords, once I understood that the first note in a chord gets its octave from the first note of the previous chord. I use \relative mode virtually exclusively for note entry, regardless of whether it's in si

Re: splitting chords entered as <>^"with stuff" \etc

2009-01-19 Thread David Raleigh Arnold
On Monday 19 January 2009, Carl D. Sorensen wrote: > This statement is not true when trying to split relative chords and > produce parallel relative voices, because of the way lilypond works. > > The octave on the first note of a chord in relative mode is determined > by comparison with the first

Re: Whole note tremolo repeats - bug ?

2009-01-19 Thread Simon Bailey
hi, On Jan 18, 2009, at 10:21 PM, Mats Bengtsson wrote: Werner LEMBERG wrote: Looking into the full score of Strauss's `Salome', I can confirm that (it's one bar before rehearsal number 68, page 50): the position of a whole note tremolo is exactly the same as if there were a stem. This is e

Re: splitting chords entered as <>^"with stuff" \etc

2009-01-19 Thread Carl D. Sorensen
On 1/19/09 5:05 AM, "David Raleigh Arnold" wrote: > On Sunday 18 January 2009, Tim Woodall wrote: >> And, of course, I found some bugs as soon as I'd posted. >> >> Quick breakdown of how it works incase anyone really wants to hack on >> it. > Wow. I am impressed, honestly. I am not a program

Re: using ly:get-glyph, ly:font-get-glyph

2009-01-19 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys
On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 6:10 AM, Werner LEMBERG wrote: > >> It says that each can "Retrieve a stencil", which strikes me as >> useful. I was actually looking for a scheme-way of accessing >> stencils, but the function description is bewildering to me. > > Well, improvements are welcome :-) > >> Ca

[SOLVED] Re: Ubuntu can't find lilypond executable

2009-01-19 Thread Bertalan Fodor (LilyPondTool)
I installed the 64bit version - it works. It seems that suprisingly I am on a 64 bit machine :-o Thanks for all of you for the tips. Bert Jan Nieuwenhuizen wrote: Op maandag 19-01-2009 om 12:20 uur [tijdzone +0100], schreef Bertalan Fodor (LilyPondTool): Jan Nieuwenhuizen wrote: Yo

Re: Ubuntu can't find lilypond executable

2009-01-19 Thread Bertalan Fodor (LilyPondTool)
It IS run by default. The problem is the following: $ /usr/local//lilypond/usr/bin/lilypond --verbose test.ly Look, this is NOT /usr/local/bin/lilypond, you cannot run this. Ok, but then why $ /usr/local/bin/lilypond says exec: 4: /usr/local//lilypond/usr/bin/lilypond: not found ?

Re: splitting chords entered as <>^"with stuff" \etc

2009-01-19 Thread David Raleigh Arnold
On Sunday 18 January 2009, Tim Woodall wrote: > And, of course, I found some bugs as soon as I'd posted. > > Quick breakdown of how it works incase anyone really wants to hack on > it. > > First it splits the three parts out into three files. Basically all it > does is remove the other two notes

Re: Ubuntu can't find lilypond executable

2009-01-19 Thread Jan Nieuwenhuizen
Op maandag 19-01-2009 om 12:20 uur [tijdzone +0100], schreef Bertalan Fodor (LilyPondTool): > Jan Nieuwenhuizen wrote: > > You state that /usr/local/bin/lilypond-book is being installed, > > can you figure out why that's not being run by default? > > > > > It IS run by default. The problem is t

Re: Ubuntu can't find lilypond executable

2009-01-19 Thread Francisco Vila
2009/1/19 Bertalan Fodor (LilyPondTool) : > It IS run by default. The problem is the following: > > $ /usr/local//lilypond/usr/bin/lilypond --verbose test.ly your output of "whereis lilypond" was /usr/local/bin/lilypond, so try $ /usr/local/bin/lilypond test.ly I have lilypond correctly install

Re: Ubuntu can't find lilypond executable

2009-01-19 Thread Bertalan Fodor (LilyPondTool)
I'm afraid we are going to speak about not the real problem. Jan Nieuwenhuizen wrote: You state that /usr/local/bin/lilypond-book is being installed, can you figure out why that's not being run by default? It IS run by default. The problem is the following: $ /usr/local//lilypond/usr/bin/

Re: Ubuntu can't find lilypond executable

2009-01-19 Thread Jan Nieuwenhuizen
Op maandag 19-01-2009 om 18:55 uur [tijdzone +0800], schreef Graham Breed: > That's weird. I see this in > ~/lilypond/usr/bin/lilypond-book as well. But lilypond-book > works for me. The binary is ~/bin/lilypond-book and that > overrides the Python version. lilydev is Han-Wen. You're not s

Re: Ubuntu can't find lilypond executable

2009-01-19 Thread Bertalan Fodor (LilyPondTool)
Francisco Vila wrote: 2009/1/19 Bertalan Fodor (LilyPondTool) : No, it's not me. The lilypond-book script contains this as the first line: #!/home/lilydev/vc/gub/target/tools/root/usr/bin/python Your system has a lilydev user you are not aware of. From my poor knowledge of install int

Re: Ubuntu can't find lilypond executable

2009-01-19 Thread Francisco Vila
2009/1/19 Bertalan Fodor (LilyPondTool) : > I don't really want to update the kernel if it is not a must. (There are > many services running on the server.) I only meant that fresh installs of lilypond work perfectly on fresh installs of Ubuntu. Any further changes to the PATH or whatever could pr

Re: Ubuntu can't find lilypond executable

2009-01-19 Thread Francisco Vila
2009/1/19 Graham Breed : > Bertalan Fodor (LilyPondTool) wrote: > >> No, it's not me. The lilypond-book script contains this as the first line: >> >> #!/home/lilydev/vc/gub/target/tools/root/usr/bin/python > > That's weird. I see this in ~/lilypond/usr/bin/lilypond-book as well. But > lilypond-bo

Re: Ubuntu can't find lilypond executable

2009-01-19 Thread Francisco Vila
2009/1/19 Bertalan Fodor (LilyPondTool) : > No, it's not me. The lilypond-book script contains this as the first line: > > #!/home/lilydev/vc/gub/target/tools/root/usr/bin/python Your system has a lilydev user you are not aware of. From my poor knowledge of install internals, it seems that the lil

Re: Ubuntu can't find lilypond executable

2009-01-19 Thread Bertalan Fodor (LilyPondTool)
Oh, then that's alright like that. I hope I don't have to upgrade the ubuntu installation. I don't want to start wandering in dependency hell. Graham Breed wrote: Bertalan Fodor (LilyPondTool) wrote: No, it's not me. The lilypond-book script contains this as the first line: #!/home/lilydev

Re: Ubuntu can't find lilypond executable

2009-01-19 Thread Graham Breed
Bertalan Fodor (LilyPondTool) wrote: No, it's not me. The lilypond-book script contains this as the first line: #!/home/lilydev/vc/gub/target/tools/root/usr/bin/python That's weird. I see this in ~/lilypond/usr/bin/lilypond-book as well. But lilypond-book works for me. The binary is ~/bi

Re: Ubuntu can't find lilypond executable

2009-01-19 Thread Bertalan Fodor (LilyPondTool)
Graham Breed wrote: Bertalan Fodor (LilyPondTool) wrote: I'm not sure this says that the given file wasn't found. I think it says that the given file was executed and returned the error "not found". Hm. That can be true - as there is a problem with running lilypond-book: /usr/local/lilypond/

Re: Ubuntu can't find lilypond executable

2009-01-19 Thread Bertalan Fodor (LilyPondTool)
I don't really want to update the kernel if it is not a must. (There are many services running on the server.) The output of the installer script is: Making /usr/local/lilypond/ Creating script /usr/local/bin/lilypond Creating script /usr/local/bin/lilypond-wrapper.python Creating script /usr/l

Re: Ubuntu can't find lilypond executable

2009-01-19 Thread Bertalan Fodor (LilyPondTool)
I am root. Francisco Vila wrote: Bertalan, it is possible that sudo sh lilypond---etc does not work for an user without privileges. Only users who are in the sudoers file can issue sudo commands. Try again as the privileged user (the first you created on install of Ubuntu) _

Re: Ubuntu can't find lilypond executable

2009-01-19 Thread Francisco Vila
Bertalan, it is possible that sudo sh lilypond---etc does not work for an user without privileges. Only users who are in the sudoers file can issue sudo commands. Try again as the privileged user (the first you created on install of Ubuntu) -- Francisco Vila. Badajoz (Spain) http://www.paconet.or

Re: Ubuntu can't find lilypond executable

2009-01-19 Thread Francisco Vila
2009/1/19 Bertalan Fodor (LilyPondTool) : > >> If you mean 2.12, right. Otherwise I hope you uninstalled 2.11 as well. >> >> Are you using a 32-bit Ubuntu installation on a 64-bit machine? >> > > Afaik the machine is 32-bit as well, its an Intel P4. > > Linux version 2.6.17-12-generic (r...@king) (

Re: Ubuntu can't find lilypond executable

2009-01-19 Thread Martin Tarenskeen
On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 10:30:42AM +0100, Bertalan Fodor (LilyPondTool) wrote: > I tried to install LilyPond 2.12 on an Ubuntu machine. I found a very > strange thing I couldn't explain, and couldn't solve. > I used the script to install: > > sudo /sh lilypond-X.Y.Z.linux-x86.sh > > /Then I try

Re: Ubuntu can't find lilypond executable

2009-01-19 Thread Graham Breed
Bertalan Fodor (LilyPondTool) wrote: I'm not sure this says that the given file wasn't found. I think it says that the given file was executed and returned the error "not found". Hm. That can be true - as there is a problem with running lilypond-book: /usr/local/lilypond/usr/bin/lilypond-book

Re: Ubuntu can't find lilypond executable

2009-01-19 Thread Bertalan Fodor (LilyPondTool)
Francisco Vila wrote: 2009/1/19 Bertalan Fodor (LilyPondTool) : I'm not sure this says that the given file wasn't found. I think it says that the given file was executed and returned the error "not found". I obtain another message. $ lilypond unexisting.ly GNU LilyPond 2.12.1 warning

Re: Ubuntu can't find lilypond executable

2009-01-19 Thread Francisco Vila
2009/1/19 Bertalan Fodor (LilyPondTool) : > > I'm not sure this says that the given file wasn't found. I think it says > that the given file was executed and returned the error "not found". I obtain another message. $ lilypond unexisting.ly GNU LilyPond 2.12.1 warning: cannot find file: `unexist

Re: Ubuntu can't find lilypond executable

2009-01-19 Thread Bertalan Fodor (LilyPondTool)
If you mean 2.12, right. Otherwise I hope you uninstalled 2.11 as well. Are you using a 32-bit Ubuntu installation on a 64-bit machine? Afaik the machine is 32-bit as well, its an Intel P4. Linux version 2.6.17-12-generic (r...@king) (gcc version 4.1.2 20060928 (prerelease) (Ubuntu 4.1.1-

Re: Ubuntu can't find lilypond executable

2009-01-19 Thread Francisco Vila
2009/1/19 Bertalan Fodor (LilyPondTool) : > Francisco Vila wrote: >> What's the output of "whereis lilypond" ? > > > lilypond: /usr/local/bin/lilypond /usr/local/lilypond same as mine. >> Did you have the lilypond package previously installed from the > standard repositories? > > No, IIRC I used

Re: Ubuntu can't find lilypond executable

2009-01-19 Thread Bertalan Fodor (LilyPondTool)
I'm not sure this says that the given file wasn't found. I think it says that the given file was executed and returned the error "not found". Hm. That can be true - as there is a problem with running lilypond-book: /usr/local/lilypond/usr/bin/lilypond-book bash: /usr/local/lilypond/usr/bin/li

Re: Ubuntu can't find lilypond executable

2009-01-19 Thread Graham Breed
Bertalan Fodor (LilyPondTool) wrote: I tried to install LilyPond 2.12 on an Ubuntu machine. I found a very strange thing I couldn't explain, and couldn't solve. I used the script to install: sudo /sh lilypond-X.Y.Z.linux-x86.sh I did a local install, and it works fine as ~/bin/lilypond and

Re: Trying to start once again...

2009-01-19 Thread Bertalan Fodor (LilyPondTool)
I find this confusing, so many cloned menus, furthermore when they _do not_ bring you directly to the LilyPondTool options. Also the name is not consistent. Multiple names LilyPondTool, LilyTool, Lily4jEdit, are confusing for novices. Bertalan: when you have the time, please put some order on

Re: Ubuntu can't find lilypond executable

2009-01-19 Thread Bertalan Fodor (LilyPondTool)
Francisco Vila wrote: 2009/1/19 Bertalan Fodor (LilyPondTool) : I tried to install LilyPond 2.12 on an Ubuntu machine. I found a very strange thing I couldn't explain, and couldn't solve. I used the script to install: sudo sh lilypond-X.Y.Z.linux-x86.sh I hope this is not the exact

Re: Ubuntu can't find lilypond executable

2009-01-19 Thread Francisco Vila
2009/1/19 Bertalan Fodor (LilyPondTool) : > I tried to install LilyPond 2.12 on an Ubuntu machine. I found a very > strange thing I couldn't explain, and couldn't solve. > I used the script to install: > > sudo sh lilypond-X.Y.Z.linux-x86.sh I hope this is not the exact command you issued. > > The

Re: Thin bars

2009-01-19 Thread Francisco Vila
These links show already filed bugs on the issue. I am completely sure that I myself filed a bug on poppler or libpoppler regarding to the lilypond barlines, but I cannot find the URL despite of having been searching for half an hour now. Poppler is the PDF rendering library of evince, if I'm not

Ubuntu can't find lilypond executable

2009-01-19 Thread Bertalan Fodor (LilyPondTool)
I tried to install LilyPond 2.12 on an Ubuntu machine. I found a very strange thing I couldn't explain, and couldn't solve. I used the script to install: sudo /sh lilypond-X.Y.Z.linux-x86.sh /Then I try to run lilypond: lilypond test.ly and I get: exec: 4: /usr/local//lilypond/usr/bin/lilypon

Re: using ly:get-glyph, ly:font-get-glyph

2009-01-19 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> It says that each can "Retrieve a stencil", which strikes me as > useful. I was actually looking for a scheme-way of accessing > stencils, but the function description is bewildering to me. Well, improvements are welcome :-) > Can I somehow use it like this... > \once \override NoteHead #'sten

Re: Thin bars

2009-01-19 Thread Johan Vromans
Johan Vromans writes: > This definitely looks like the problem discussed here earlier. See message and thread. http://www.squirrel.nl/pub/xfer/lpev.png shows an example. -- Johan ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gn

Re: Thin bars

2009-01-19 Thread Johan Vromans
Fibonacci Prower writes: > Well, I just tried printing it, and the bars look even worse - not > only are they too thick, they also seem to be a bit too long, so that > they go beyond the limits of the staff on both sides This definitely looks like the problem discussed here earlier. Did you try

Re: Trying to start once again...

2009-01-19 Thread Francisco Vila
2009/1/18 Michael Falkenburg : > Francisco Vila wrote: >> Configure LilyPondTool so that the path to the lilypond executable is >> /usr/local/bin >> > > Where do I do this? > Go to the menu Plugins -> LilyPondTool -> Development -> LilyTool Options, the go to the "LilyPondTool -> General" section

Re: \skip substitute in lyrics?

2009-01-19 Thread Wilbert Berendsen
Op zondag 18 januari 2009, schreef Kieren MacMillan: > Of course, there are more complicated ways as well (using \set   > associatedVoice, etc.). That would be starting a new lyrics context at the desired moment: \score { << \new Staff \new Voice = "mel" \relative c' { c d e f g f e