There seems to be a bug - see attached screenshot. Key signatures are
inserted always as if in treble clef rather than appropriate to the
selected clef.
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Am 03.12.2013 08:23, schrieb flup2:
Although it might look strange, I think that "fair comparison" depends of the
intended use. For advanced users, of course, a finely tuned score of each
software would give better idea of "possible end result". But, for a lot of
users who don't need (or want or
Although it might look strange, I think that "fair comparison" depends of the
intended use. For advanced users, of course, a finely tuned score of each
software would give better idea of "possible end result". But, for a lot of
users who don't need (or want or know how) those refinements and the
"s
Hi Keith (et al.),
> Instead of specifying an offset from a rehearsal mark, maybe simpler to
> have an independent type of marker to put in the \global stream. Then
> the entries of the parts are visible all at once in \global
> global = { R1*32 \mark"A" R1*30 \marker"vln34" R1*18 \mark"B" }
In
On Mon, 2 Dec 2013, Garrett McGilvray wrote:
The reason that I came back for a second try was not that it was free,
since I had already paid for "the real thing." I don't remember what
made me think of it, but I remembered the essay on LilyPond's goal of
superior engraving, and I decided to
Federico Bruni writes:
> It was hosted on github years ago, but now I see that last update is 3 years
> ago.
Yes.
> The demo is not working on Chromium 31.0.1650.57
It was down. Please try again?
Jan
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2013/12/2 Federico Bruni
> 2013/12/2 David Kastrup
>
>> Wouldn't it make sense to integrate the bend stuff into LilyPond? That
>> would make it easier to match versions and behavior.
>>
>
> I think that it would be great.
> I've never used it much because of version conflicts and because I hope
2013/12/3 Noeck
> > This is *exactly* why I've been playing/experimenting with GUI
> > backends/frontends since 2004. If you haven't done so, please have
> > a look at Schikkers List
> >
> > http://lilypond.org/schikkers
>
> This looks really cool! (Has it improved a lot or is the html5 demo
Noeck writes:
>> http://lilypond.org/schikkers
>
> This looks really cool! (Has it improved a lot or is the html5 demo new,
> compared to last year? The last time I looked, it didn't work for me)
Thanks. I found some time this spring and it improved a lot. I haven't
had any time to work on
James Harkins gmail.com> writes:
> Keith OHara oco.net> writes:
>
> > If we had an easy way to enter a duration of until-X, then ability to
> > place the next note X comes naturally. Sometimes 'X' is the end of
> > the entire piece. Would that ease the difficulties mentioned above ?
>
> It m
On 3 December 2013 13:18, PMA wrote:
> I program in J almost exclusively, since the pursuit of my brainstorms
> (music-bound or not) tends to favor handy ad-hoc number crunching.
+1 but with Lua. I’ve done some useful things.
Alternatives are Frescobaldi snippets if you know Python, and you can
Hi James (et al.),
> If you insert a bar, you'd have to change R1*32 to R1*33 by hand. Or, if you
> change the 10th out of the 32 bars into a 3/4 measure, I believe you would
> then have to change R1*32 to "R1*9 R2. R1*22" -- highly error prone.
\pushToTag was designed (by David K, and paid for i
On Dec 2, 2013 9:40 PM, "James Harkins" wrote:
>
> Keith OHara oco.net> writes:
>
> > Of course specifying time in terms of durations is more convenient
> > than specifying absolute time, or we would need to change every
> > following note when we insert a few measures.
>
> Assuming that "duratio
Keith OHara oco.net> writes:
> Of course specifying time in terms of durations is more convenient
> than specifying absolute time, or we would need to change every
> following note when we insert a few measures.
Assuming that "durations" and "absolute time" are the only two options. I'm
not mak
I've laid low because I'm still new enough that I don't have much to contribute
unless it is a question, but here I might actually have something to say:
> On Dec 2, 2013, at 9:00, David Kastrup wrote:
>
> Again, I don't think the "no money" aspect should be a primary selling
> point.
I defini
Invoking lilypond-book allows me to generate HTML with lilypond tags into
HTML with PNG images. I've got that bit down. But is there a way to embed
the MIDI into the document? Using \midi with generate the midi file but it
doesn't embed it into the HTML document.
Also, on a less important matter,
Curt wrote:
On Dec 2, 2013, at 2:11 PM, PMA wrote:
...All my scores are made via LP.
But each LP input file is made by a program I've written either in J
(descendant superset of APL) or in good old BASH -- roughly as
far apart as programming languages get.
Ha - I'd love to hear more about thi
> This is *exactly* why I've been playing/experimenting with GUI
> backends/frontends since 2004. If you haven't done so, please have
> a look at Schikkers List
>
> http://lilypond.org/schikkers
This looks really cool! (Has it improved a lot or is the html5 demo new,
compared to last year? T
David Kastrup gnu.org> writes:
> LilyPond's strengths are what it is able to do automatically:
> transpositions, partial partitures, catering to different page formats,
> fast adaption to different orchestras... Your score is _malleable_.
LilyPond excels at *vertical* malleability, but it's nea
James Harkins gmail.com> writes:
> Time is represented exclusively in terms of Inter-Onset Intervals
> [i.e. durations]. This is great for streams of events, but perfectly
> wretched for multiple streams that must coordinate.
>
> Example: Suppose I'm writing an orchestral piece with, oh, 40 stave
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"Phil Burfitt" wrote:
> >you don't really get around these programs without reading docs
> >(and you shouldn't try to make it easy).
>
> I disagree with "you shouldn't try to make it easy".
what I meant was "you sh
2013/12/3 Urs Liska :
> Am 03.12.2013 00:22, schrieb Keith OHara:
>> I know that you know that LilyPond does not simply scale down the lines
>> and fonts, but uses relatively heavier weights at the smaller staff-sizes.
>> It sounds like you feel the effect should be stronger.
>
> Basically yes.
>
>
Am 03.12.2013 00:22, schrieb Keith OHara:
Urs Liska openlilylib.org> writes:
When I started using LilyPond I was impressed by the default look and
feel of the scores. Rather often I felt the need to fit more music on
the page, and for a beginner the most natural (and probably only) way to
achi
On Mon, Dec 2, 2013 at 6:13 PM, Phil Burfitt wrote:
> - Original Message - From: "David Kastrup"
> Sent: Monday, December 02, 2013 7:11 PM
>
>
> Wouldn't it be far better after installing lilypond, to present the
>>> user with a cut down tutorial and usage instructions in a read-me
>>> f
Urs Liska openlilylib.org> writes:
> When I started using LilyPond I was impressed by the default look and
> feel of the scores. Rather often I felt the need to fit more music on
> the page, and for a beginner the most natural (and probably only) way to
> achieve this is to globally reduce the
- Original Message -
From: "David Kastrup"
Sent: Monday, December 02, 2013 7:11 PM
Wouldn't it be far better after installing lilypond, to present the
user with a cut down tutorial and usage instructions in a read-me
file, and two desktop icons/shortcuts...one for this read-me file, a
Urs Liska wrote
> Am 02.12.2013 23:34, schrieb Curt:
>> I've written perl scripts that generate lilypond snippets to include in
>> Anki decks for self-study of jazz theory. There's all kinds of crazy
>> programming people can do with Lilypond.
>>
>> Curt
>
> How are Anki decks/cards stored, can t
Hi all,
can you tell me about your experiences with smaller staff sizes?
When I started using LilyPond I was impressed by the default look and
feel of the scores. Rather often I felt the need to fit more music on
the page, and for a beginner the most natural (and probably only) way to
achieve
Am 02.12.2013 23:34, schrieb Curt:
I've written perl scripts that generate lilypond snippets to include in
Anki decks for self-study of jazz theory. There's all kinds of crazy
programming people can do with Lilypond.
Curt
How are Anki decks/cards stored, can they be somehow be edited in a
co
On Dec 2, 2013, at 2:11 PM, PMA wrote:
> Urs Liska wrote:
>> Answer him that
>> ...
>> As LP input files are plain you can use _any_ programming
>> language to modify ... or even generate LilyPond input files.
>
> This is a nod to Urs's word "_any_". All my scores are made via LP.
> But each
Urs Liska wrote:
Answer him that
...
As LP input files are plain you can use _any_ programming
language to modify ... or even generate LilyPond input files.
This is a nod to Urs's word "_any_". All my scores are made via LP.
But each LP input file is made by a program I've written either in J
David Kastrup wrote
> SoundsFromSound <
> soundsfromsound@
> > writes:
>
>> A friend of mine, who is a long time Finale user, asked me today:
>>
>> "Does LilyPond allow you to use programming languages like Lua for
>> scripting
>> or functions to expand its capabilities? That's one of the things
2013/12/2 Urs Liska :
> B)
> As LP input files are plain you can use _any_ programming language to
> modify, analyze or even generate LilyPond input files.
You may show him this post:
http://lilypondblog.org/2013/07/programmatically-generating-lilypond-input/
(or some other from http://lilypondblo
SoundsFromSound writes:
> A friend of mine, who is a long time Finale user, asked me today:
>
> "Does LilyPond allow you to use programming languages like Lua for scripting
> or functions to expand its capabilities? That's one of the things I love
> about Finale nowadays."
>
> I was not sure
This is incredibly impressive.
Piaras's implementation of an allow-interrupt-engraver provides a more or
less drop-in solution for this difficult technique.
>From the .ly attachment:
\new Staff \with {
\consists #allow-interrupt-engraver
}
What're are the chances that an Allow_interru
Answer him that
A)
Lilypond does have its builtin extension language, and that this is so
intertwined with LilyPond's internal working that it allows to do _very_ much,
surely more and more fundamental than any "scripting engine".
B)
As LP input files are plain you can use _any_ programming lan
A friend of mine, who is a long time Finale user, asked me today:
"Does LilyPond allow you to use programming languages like Lua for scripting
or functions to expand its capabilities? That's one of the things I love
about Finale nowadays."
I was not sure how to answer. Does LilyPond have any
"Phil Burfitt" writes:
> From: "Renato"
> Sent: Monday, December 02, 2013 4:49 PM
>
>> I mean, lilypond is text-editor + command-line by design
>
> Of course, but what it the point of invoking a command prompt that
> _doesn't work_ when clicking on the lilypond icon (the view from a
> windows ma
- Original Message -
From: "Renato"
Sent: Monday, December 02, 2013 4:49 PM
I mean, lilypond is text-editor + command-line by design
Of course, but what it the point of invoking a command prompt that _doesn't
work_ when clicking on the lilypond icon (the view from a windows machine
"R.D. Latimer" writes:
> I'm a retired school teacher, I know some C++, I'd be happy to help
> out with dev if I can, though I may not know enough, but would be
> willing to try. I know some c++ and lisp/scheme and music theory. I
> have a Windows 7 laptop, Netbeans for C++ dev. Let me know if t
I'm a retired school teacher, I know some C++, I'd be happy to help out
with dev if I can, though I may not know enough, but would be willing to
try. I know some c++ and lisp/scheme and music theory. I have a Windows 7
laptop, Netbeans for C++ dev. Let me know if there may be ways to help out
wit
On 2013-12-02 18:11, Jason Yust wrote:
There seems to be an error in the manual (perhaps a hold over from older
version). I'm getting two problems on section 4.3.1 and elsewhere. This kind
of notation:
\override BarLine.stencil = ##f
gives me an error. I need to use
\override BarLine #'stencil
There seems to be an error in the manual (perhaps a hold over from older
version). I'm getting two problems on section 4.3.1 and elsewhere. This kind
of notation:
\override BarLine.stencil = ##f
gives me an error. I need to use
\override BarLine #'stencil = ##f
instead, but a number of the exa
Am 2013-12-02 um 20:56 schrieb James Harkins :
> Now let's say that we don't live in a perfect world and I didn't write
> everything in perfect form on paper before engraving. Then I decide that one
> 2/4 bar should actually be 3/4. So now I have to change s2 to s2. in the
> global variable AN
> -Original Message-
> From: Janek Warchoł [mailto:janek.lilyp...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Monday, December 02, 2013 8:50 AM
> To: LilyPond Users; Jan Nieuwenhuizen; David Kastrup; Urs Liska; Noeck;
> Kieren MacMillan; Joseph Wakeling; Benjamin CL; Richard Shann
> Subject: improving LilyPond usea
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"Phil Burfitt" wrote:
> So often people after buying a new shiny thingy, open the box, plug
> it in, and only after numerous failed attempts to get it to work,
> decide to read the manual
Well they'd hit the same wa
Janek Warchoł writes:
> 2013/12/1 Kieren MacMillan :
>> Urs wrote:
>>> Most people I tried to persuade simply said "this isn't my cup of tea,
>>> I'm not a programmer”.
>>
>> THAT is the main problem right there — one we are likely never to
>> overcome, as much as I hate to admit it.
>
> Yup...
Carl Peterson writes:
> On Sun, Dec 1, 2013 at 1:31 PM, David Kastrup wrote:
>
>> Well, I'd argue that a mouse makes absolutely no sense for music input.
>> A practised typist can write several hundred words per minute and keep
>> this up for quite a long time.
>>
>> Input the same amount of inf
"Phil Burfitt" writes:
> I believe first impressions are important, and I think that LilyPond
> lets itself down here. After installing LilyPond, a new user will
> discover a new icon on their desktop. They'll double click on it, and
> what do they get?a sort-of read me file (it's LilyPad, bu
>
>
> 2) The contention was that this stuff would be easier in Sibelius. Not
>> that you
>> can get it right there too.
>>
>
> Sibelius doesn't get things automatically right as well as Lilypond does,
> but it's usually much, much easier to correct or customize them when it
> doesn't give you what
胡海鹏 - Hu Haipeng wrote
> I have not used command line for several years. Now I'd like to use
> musicxml2ly, and have forgotten how I invoked it in 2008. I first run
> cmd.exe on XP, changing to d:\my documents, then musicxml2ly overture.xml.
> But the prompt said that musicxml2ly is not an intern
Hi,
I believe first impressions are important, and I think that LilyPond lets
itself down here. After installing LilyPond, a new user will discover a new
icon on their desktop. They'll double click on it, and what do they
get?a sort-of read me file (it's LilyPad, but you wouldn't know that
Picking up on a comment of Kieren's, which I think doesn't need to hijack
David's financial support thread...
I find LilyPond's model of time to be the most inconvenient aspect of the
input format -- so inconvenient that it alone may be enough to drive people
away.
Time is represented exclusively
On 01/12/13 15:09, immanuel litzroth wrote:
1) I don't seem to run into many of these problems with lilypond and I do
transcriptions of small ensembles *and* export all
the voices separately (that's including drums) -- I almost never have to clean
up for readability issues, and don't have the
tim
On Sun, Dec 1, 2013 at 9:09 AM, Henning Hraban Ramm wrote:
>
> I guess „we“ have a chance in combination with TeX, i.e. at universities
> etc. where TeX is in broad use, since the approach and needed expertise is
> similar.
>
Good luck with that, at least if my university was any indication of
th
Hi all,
this is quite a different subject from the "promoting LilyPond" stuff,
so i separated this thread.
2013/12/1 David Kastrup :
> Kieren wrote:
>> Result? Not a single successful convert [to Lily] to date.
>
> I think Frescobaldi with its templates would likely be helpful.
> Possibly also De
On Sun, Dec 1, 2013 at 1:31 PM, David Kastrup wrote:
> SoundsFromSound writes:
>
> > The biggest complaint I've heard from many of my peers (when it comes
> > to possibly switching from Finale/Sibelius) is that "LilyPond looks
> > like way too much work" and "Text input?? That makes absolutely n
Hi all,
a very important discussion! A couple thoughts:
2013/12/1 Carl Peterson :
> LP came out in the midst of other packages that already existed. As a
> result, it is fighting for marketshare in a relatively mature market.
> Granted, it is possible to overcome this hurdle, as Google Chrome se
Eluze wrote
>
> 胡海鹏 - Hu Haipeng wrote
>> I have not used command line for several years. Now I'd like to use
>> musicxml2ly, and have forgotten how I invoked it in 2008. I first run
>> cmd.exe on XP, changing to d:\my documents, then musicxml2ly
>> overture.xml. But the prompt said that musicxm
Hello,
I have not used command line for several years. Now I'd like to use
musicxml2ly, and have forgotten how I invoked it in 2008. I first run cmd.exe
on XP, changing to d:\my documents, then musicxml2ly overture.xml. But the
prompt said that musicxml2ly is not an internal or external comman
2013/12/2 David Kastrup :
> Thomas Morley writes:
>> it's because grace-notes are beamed per default with 2.17.96.
>> Change the example to
>> \bendGrace { \preBendRelease c8( \noBeam d)( } c2) r2
>>
>> or better the definition of 'preBendRelease' to
>
> Wouldn't it make sense to integrate the ben
2013/12/2 David Kastrup
> Wouldn't it make sense to integrate the bend stuff into LilyPond? That
> would make it easier to match versions and behavior.
>
I think that it would be great.
I've never used it much because of version conflicts and because I hoped
that 1196 would have been solved soo
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