Re: Can't seem to merge note groups

2016-01-12 Thread Abraham Lee
My fix doesn't _need_ the second voice, but having it does allow for proper playback (if that's important to you). Best, Abraham On Monday, January 11, 2016, Michiel Sikma wrote: > Thanks so much Pierre and Abraham! > > I'm just a beginner but intuitively, it would seem that in my example both

Cross-staff stems + TupletBracket.outside-staff-priority

2016-01-12 Thread takumi ikeda
Dear Community, I found that the following code does not work properly. I don't know whether it is the known bug or not... \version "2.18.2" { \new PianoStaff << \new Staff = up { % It works well when the followong line is commented out. \override TupletBracket.outside-s

Re: Cross-staff stems + TupletBracket.outside-staff-priority

2016-01-12 Thread Trevor Daniels
takumi ikeda wrote Tuesday, January 12, 2016 10:52 AM > I found that the following code does not work properly. I don't know > whether it is the known bug or not... > > > > \version "2.18.2" > > { > \new PianoStaff << >\new Staff = up { > > % It works well when the followong li

Re: Can't seem to merge note groups

2016-01-12 Thread Trevor Daniels
Hi Michiel Chopin is notorious for this kind of notation, and you do seem to have found a construction where Lily's standard approach fails to reproduce what Chopin wanted. You can achieve the desired appearance with a bit of subterfuge and at the expense of a warning with: fixme-section = {

Beaming over a rest before a subdivision

2016-01-12 Thread Urs Liska
Hi, there is an issue with rests under beams. The comment in the source code says "Invisible stems should be treated as though they have the same number of beams as their least-beamed neighbour." I think this is intended for cases like \relative c'' { a32 [ a a r a16 a] } (first attachmen

Outliner markup command

2016-01-12 Thread Pierre Perol-Schneider
Hi, Yesterday night I thought about rewriting this snippet: http://lsr.di.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=890 using the new whiteout 'outline' override and finally discovered a funny side effect: \version "2.19.35" #(set-default-paper-size "a6") #(define-markup-command (outliner layout props outln-width ou

Re: Beaming over a rest before a subdivision

2016-01-12 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi Urs, > I see two approaches to this: > > a) have the number of beams correspond to the actual duration of the > note (third attachment) > b) have *no* beamlets at all and let the subdivision be calculated as > usual (fourth attachment) > > Any opinions (or references to what the books say)?

Re: Outliner markup command

2016-01-12 Thread Trevor Daniels
Hi Pierre Very nice! Ideal for those more light-hearted musical items. LSR? Trevor - Original Message - From: Pierre Perol-Schneider To: lilypond-user Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2016 2:37 PM Subject: Outliner markup command Hi, Yesterday night I thought about rewri

Re: Beaming over a rest before a subdivision

2016-01-12 Thread Urs Liska
Am 12.01.2016 um 16:37 schrieb Kieren MacMillan: > Hi Urs, > >> I see two approaches to this: >> >> a) have the number of beams correspond to the actual duration of the >> note (third attachment) >> b) have *no* beamlets at all and let the subdivision be calculated as >> usual (fourth attachment)

Re: Beaming over a rest before a subdivision

2016-01-12 Thread Urs Liska
Am 12.01.2016 um 16:47 schrieb Urs Liska: > Hi Kieren, > > thanks for info and opinion. (I really have to get hold of Gould's book > finally ...). > > If I'd implement that > > \relative c'' { > a32 [ a a r a16 a ] > \set subdivideBeams = ##t > \set baseMoment = #(ly:make-moment 1/8) > a

Re: Beaming over a rest before a subdivision

2016-01-12 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> b) have *no* beamlets at all and let the subdivision be calculated >as usual (fourth attachment) This is what I prefer. Werner ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user

Re: Beaming over a rest before a subdivision

2016-01-12 Thread Mark Knoop
At 17:15 on 12 Jan 2016, Werner LEMBERG wrote: >> b) have *no* beamlets at all and let the subdivision be calculated >>as usual (fourth attachment) > >This is what I prefer. > +1. Gould seems to always use stemlets with beamlets when the beam count > 2. -- Mark Knoop _

Re: Beaming over a rest before a subdivision

2016-01-12 Thread Urs Liska
Am 12.01.2016 um 17:28 schrieb Mark Knoop: > At 17:15 on 12 Jan 2016, Werner LEMBERG wrote: >>> b) have *no* beamlets at all and let the subdivision be calculated >>>as usual (fourth attachment) >> This is what I prefer. >> > +1. Gould seems to always use stemlets with beamlets when the bea

Re: Beaming over a rest before a subdivision

2016-01-12 Thread Urs Liska
Am 12.01.2016 um 17:49 schrieb Urs Liska: > > Am 12.01.2016 um 17:28 schrieb Mark Knoop: >> At 17:15 on 12 Jan 2016, Werner LEMBERG wrote: b) have *no* beamlets at all and let the subdivision be calculated as usual (fourth attachment) >>> This is what I prefer. >>> >> +1. Gould see

Re: Beaming over a rest before a subdivision

2016-01-12 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi Urs, > I must say I find the attached image (with 1/16 subdivision and rests > before each division) pretty clear. “Pretty clear”? Yes. Could it be clearer? Definitely. I can’t tell if, for example, the 64ths should be phrased 3+5 or 4+4; beamlets and/or stemlets would definitely help make t

Re: Beaming over a rest before a subdivision

2016-01-12 Thread Urs Liska
Am 12.01.2016 um 18:11 schrieb Kieren MacMillan: > Hi Urs, > >> I must say I find the attached image (with 1/16 subdivision and rests >> before each division) pretty clear. > “Pretty clear”? Yes. > > Could it be clearer? Definitely. > I can’t tell if, for example, the 64ths should be phrased 3+5

Re: Outliner markup command

2016-01-12 Thread Pierre Perol-Schneider
Hi Trevor, Thank you. Yes, I'll add a snippet for sure, as soon as LSR will work with v2.20. Pierre 2016-01-12 16:42 GMT+01:00 Trevor Daniels : > Hi Pierre > > Very nice! Ideal for those more light-hearted musical items. > > LSR? > > Trevor > > > - Original Message - > *From:* Pierre P

Re: Beaming over a rest before a subdivision

2016-01-12 Thread Urs Liska
Am 12.01.2016 um 18:16 schrieb Urs Liska: >>> What should the behavior of the *last* one be here? >> > Stemlet, for sure. (IMO) > Unfortunately producing stemlets is a completely different business > which I haven't discovered yet (don't even know where this might take > place). > > Urs > Ah wel

Re: Beaming over a rest before a subdivision

2016-01-12 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi Urs, > Ah well, producing stemlets is the responsibility of user input code. Indeed. =) I have some syntactic sugar for just such efforts. > Find attached a solution *with* stemlets (\override Staff.Stem.stemlet-length > = 1) From the standpoint of clarity [of beat division/subdivision], t

Re: Outliner markup command

2016-01-12 Thread Simon Albrecht
On 12.01.2016 15:37, Pierre Perol-Schneider wrote: \header { title = \markup\outliner #3 #'"orange" #'"yellow" { Some Music } } Nice idea! You needn’t quote the strings, and #"orange" is at least a little less convoluted. Yours, Simon ___ lilyp

Re: Beaming over a rest before a subdivision

2016-01-12 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> What should the behavior of the *last* one be here? No beams over the rest. Werner ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user

RE: Microtonal notation - arrows up and down

2016-01-12 Thread Graham Breed
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2016 19:39:06 +0100 From: Luca Danieli It works perfectly! I understand that I need to rename ALL pitches, otherwise the building fails.The only problem now is that I have lost the default microtonal symbols. So for example, how do I re-write the default symbol ceh (to have

Re: Outliner markup command

2016-01-12 Thread Thomas Morley
2016-01-12 15:37 GMT+01:00 Pierre Perol-Schneider : > Hi, > > Yesterday night I thought about rewriting this snippet: > http://lsr.di.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=890 using the new whiteout 'outline' > override and finally discovered a funny side effect: > > \version "2.19.35" > #(set-default-paper-size "a

Re: Outliner markup command

2016-01-12 Thread Thomas Morley
2016-01-12 18:40 GMT+01:00 Pierre Perol-Schneider : > Hi Trevor, > > Thank you. > Yes, I'll add a snippet for sure, as soon as LSR will work with v2.20. > > Pierre > > 2016-01-12 16:42 GMT+01:00 Trevor Daniels : >> >> Hi Pierre >> >> Very nice! Ideal for those more light-hearted musical items. >>

Re: Outliner markup command

2016-01-12 Thread David Kastrup
Thomas Morley writes: > 2016-01-12 15:37 GMT+01:00 Pierre Perol-Schneider > : > > I've always found it a little so-so, to define custom markup-commands > only combining a personal choice of preexisting markup-commands. > Wouldn't it be better to let it do by a scheme-function? > Though, you can't

slurs across bar lines with glissandi and hidden noteheads

2016-01-12 Thread Ryan Michael
I have the following two bars: %51% \tuplet 3/2{ r8-\markup{\italic "gesprochen"} d'8 dis8} \tuplet 3/2{ r16 cis cis a r16 cis} \tuplet 3/2{ cis a r16 a cis8\glissando} \once \hide NoteHead g4\glissando %52% cis,2 r4 r8 dis'-\markup{\italic "gliss"} I would like to make a slur from the g4 of

Re: Outliner markup command

2016-01-12 Thread David Kastrup
David Kastrup writes: > Thomas Morley writes: > >> Any chance to directly insert the result of a scheme-function in a >> newly created markup? > > I've just written a syntax rule allowing that, with the arguments of the > scheme function being scanned in \notemode. Which is what they are > usua

Re: Outliner markup command

2016-01-12 Thread David Kastrup
Thomas Morley writes: > Any chance to directly insert the result of a scheme-function in a > newly created markup? Tracker issue: 4741 (https://sourceforge.net/p/testlilyissues/issues/4741/) Rietveld issue: 285070043 (https://codereview.appspot.com/285070043) Issue description: Allow Scheme fu

Re: slurs across bar lines with glissandi and hidden noteheads

2016-01-12 Thread Simon Albrecht
On 12.01.2016 22:12, Ryan Michael wrote: I would like to make a slur from the g4 of the first bar to the cis2 of the next bar Slurs in Lilypond use postfix syntax, so you need to type { g4( cis2) } instead of { ( g4 cis2 ) }. HTH, Simon ___ lilypo

Re: slurs across bar lines with glissandi and hidden noteheads

2016-01-12 Thread Blöchl Bernhard
cis8glissando does not work, do not forget the "\"! \relative c'' { \once \hide NoteHead a\glissando c } Am 12.01.2016 22:12, schrieb Ryan Michael: I have the following two bars:  %51% tuplet 3/2{ r8-markup{italic "gesprochen"} d'8 dis8} tuplet 3/2{ r16 cis cis a r16 cis} tuplet 3/2{ cis

Re: slurs across bar lines with glissandi and hidden noteheads

2016-01-12 Thread Simon Albrecht
On 12.01.2016 22:40, Blöchl Bernhard wrote: cis8glissando does not work, do not forget the "\"! \relative c'' { \once \hide NoteHead a\glissando c } The original post contained the backslash – it must have been lost on the way to you. Yours, Simon Am 12.01.2016 22:12, schrieb Ryan Micha

Re: Beaming over a rest before a subdivision

2016-01-12 Thread Urs Liska
Am 12.01.2016 um 19:57 schrieb Kieren MacMillan: > Hi Urs, > >> Ah well, producing stemlets is the responsibility of user input code. > Indeed. =) > I have some syntactic sugar for just such efforts. > >> Find attached a solution *with* stemlets (\override >> Staff.Stem.stemlet-length = 1) > Fr

Re: slurs across bar lines with glissandi and hidden noteheads

2016-01-12 Thread Simon Albrecht
Two more remarks: On 12.01.2016 22:12, Ryan Michael wrote: I do the following: %51% \tuplet 3/2{ r8-\markup{\italic "gesprochen"} d'8 dis8} \tuplet 3/2{ r16 cis cis a r16 cis} \tuplet 3/2{ cis a r16 a cis8\glissando} \once \hide NoteHead (g4\glissando %52% cis,2 ) r4 r8 dis'-\markup{\itali

Re: slurs across bar lines with glissandi and hidden noteheads

2016-01-12 Thread Blöchl Bernhard
Am 12.01.2016 22:40, schrieb Blöchl Bernhard: cis8glissando does not work, do not forget the "\"! \relative c'' { \once \hide NoteHead a\glissando c } Am 12.01.2016 22:12, schrieb Ryan Michael: I have the following two bars:  %51% tuplet 3/2{ r8-markup{italic "gesprochen"} d'8 dis8} tuple

Re: Outliner markup command

2016-01-12 Thread Thomas Morley
2016-01-12 22:08 GMT+01:00 David Kastrup : > Thomas Morley writes: > >> 2016-01-12 15:37 GMT+01:00 Pierre Perol-Schneider >> : >> >> I've always found it a little so-so, to define custom markup-commands >> only combining a personal choice of preexisting markup-commands. >> Wouldn't it be better to

Re: Beaming over a rest before a subdivision

2016-01-12 Thread Urs Liska
Am 12.01.2016 um 20:59 schrieb Werner LEMBERG: >> What should the behavior of the *last* one be here? > No beams over the rest. Well, default behaviour is to break the beam at all rests here (see attached). But if the user manually enters the beam enclosing the rest there should be *something*.

Re: Outliner markup command

2016-01-12 Thread Pierre Perol-Schneider
Hi Simon, 2016-01-12 20:46 GMT+01:00 Simon Albrecht : > Nice idea! You needn’t quote the strings, and #"orange" is at least a > little less convoluted. > Yep ! Ok. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/list

Re: slurs across bar lines with glissandi and hidden noteheads

2016-01-12 Thread Blöchl Bernhard
For exploring tuplets (etc.) simply consult the manual http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.18/Documentation/notation/writing-rhythms#tuplets Am 12.01.2016 22:40, schrieb Blöchl Bernhard: cis8glissando does not work, do not forget the "\"! \relative c'' { \once \hide NoteHead a\glissando c } Am 12.

Re: Beaming over a rest before a subdivision

2016-01-12 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi Urs, > Well, default behaviour is to break the beam at all rests here (see attached). ew > But if the user manually enters the beam enclosing the rest there should > be *something*. +1 > What would be nice too […] is adding a stemlet, > but without implicitly adding beamlets. Yes. n.b. Yo

Re: slurs across bar lines with glissandi and hidden noteheads

2016-01-12 Thread Ryan Michael
Ah! Okay so actually I was trying to slur from the preceding note (cis8), so the following worked for me: \version "2.18.2" \relative { %51% \tuplet 3/2 { r8-\markup \italic "gesprochen" d'8 dis8 } \tuplet 3/2 { r16 cis cis a r16 cis } \tuplet 3/2 { cis a r16 a cis8(\glissa

Re: Outliner markup command

2016-01-12 Thread Pierre Perol-Schneider
Hi Harm, 2016-01-12 21:24 GMT+01:00 Thomas Morley : > I've always found it a little so-so, to define custom markup-commands > only combining a personal choice of preexisting markup-commands. > I fully agree, it's just that my scheme knowledge is also a little so-so ;) Actually I tried to. Witho

Re: Beaming over a rest before a subdivision

2016-01-12 Thread Werner LEMBERG
>> No beams over the rest. > > But if the user manually enters the beam enclosing the rest there > should be *something*. Ah, ok, I missed this. > And I think a single beam is better here than a number of steamlets. I agree. Werner ___ lilypond

Re: Outliner markup command

2016-01-12 Thread Pierre Perol-Schneider
2016-01-12 21:35 GMT+01:00 Thomas Morley : > You can already put it into LSR: comment out the code, let a > dummy-markup displayed and add [needs LSR upgrade] to the title. It > will then be stored in the unapproved snippets, not searchable, > though. > Yep that was my intention as soon as I'll

Re: Outliner markup command

2016-01-12 Thread David Kastrup
Pierre Perol-Schneider writes: > Hi Harm, > > 2016-01-12 21:24 GMT+01:00 Thomas Morley : > > >> I've always found it a little so-so, to define custom markup-commands >> only combining a personal choice of preexisting markup-commands. >> > > I fully agree, it's just that my scheme knowledge is als

Re: Outliner markup command

2016-01-12 Thread David Kastrup
Thomas Morley writes: > Wow, that was fast. The change was trivial. It's the ramifications that aren't. That's why I would rather leave them to you. There will be odd cases rather certainly. The question is whether the overall behavior appears sensible and that's probably easier to judge emp

Re: Outliner markup command

2016-01-12 Thread Thomas Morley
2016-01-12 23:05 GMT+01:00 Pierre Perol-Schneider : > Hi Harm, > > 2016-01-12 21:24 GMT+01:00 Thomas Morley : > >> >> I've always found it a little so-so, to define custom markup-commands >> only combining a personal choice of preexisting markup-commands. > > > I fully agree, it's just that my sche

Re: Outliner markup command

2016-01-12 Thread Simon Albrecht
On 13.01.2016 00:09, Thomas Morley wrote: Though, there might be a bug in `stencil-whiteout-outline', Paul cc-ed. Here you are. Look at: \markup \stencil #(stencil-whiteout-outline (make-filled-box-stencil '(-1 . 1) '(-1 . 1)) 0.5 red 16 1) \markup \stencil #(stencil-whiteou

Re: Overriding tie-configuration & \shape breaks custom Scheme function since 2.19.24

2016-01-12 Thread Peter Crighton
Thank you, works perfectly! -- Peter Crighton | Musician & Music Engraver based in Mainz, Germany http://www.petercrighton.de 2016-01-10 9:44 GMT+01:00 Malte Meyn : > > > Am 10.01.2016 um 02:50 schrieb Peter Crighton: >> (if (or (music-is-of-type? mus 'rest-event) >>

startGraceMusic

2016-01-12 Thread Andrew Bernard
There are startGraceMusic and stopGraceMusic functions that are helpful for adjusting the appearance of grace notes. Are there startAfterGraceMusic etc functions for \afterGrace? Currently I have to manually adjust afterGrace notes to be the same as that in the startGraceMusic function I have. W