Re: Breaking Ties to Avoid Time Signature Changes

2017-08-29 Thread SoundsFromSound
Brian kozaczek wrote > Hi All, > > How do I break ties from a chord (single voice) that overlap a changed > time signature in the next measure? > > Thanks, > > Brian  > ___ > lilypond-user mailing list > lilypo

Re: Breaking Ties to Avoid Time Signature Changes

2017-08-28 Thread Noeck
Hi Brian, does this snippet help? http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.18/Documentation/snippets/editorial-annotations#editorial-annotations-using-the-whiteout-property Best, Joram ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org

Breaking Ties to Avoid Time Signature Changes

2017-08-28 Thread Brian kozaczek
Hi All, How do I break ties from a chord (single voice) that overlap a changed time signature in the next measure? Thanks, Brian ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user

Re: flip clef, key and time signature [Re: flip clef at end of line only]

2017-04-17 Thread Marc Hohl
Am 17.04.2017 um 13:47 schrieb Thomas Morley: 2017-04-17 13:35 GMT+02:00 Marc Hohl : Hi Harm, (ly:grob-set-property! grob 'space-alist '((staff-bar extra-space . 1)) Ah, that's the way to go here – thanks a lot for your brilliant solution!

Re: flip clef, key and time signature [Re: flip clef at end of line only]

2017-04-17 Thread Thomas Morley
2017-04-17 13:35 GMT+02:00 Marc Hohl : > Hi Harm, >> >> (ly:grob-set-property! grob 'space-alist >> '((staff-bar extra-space . 1)) > > > Ah, that's the way to go here – thanks a lot for your brilliant solution! > > Can you explain why you use

Re: flip clef, key and time signature [Re: flip clef at end of line only]

2017-04-17 Thread Marc Hohl
Hi Harm, Am 16.04.2017 um 21:25 schrieb Thomas Morley: 2017-04-16 17:54 GMT+02:00 Marc Hohl <m...@hohlart.de>: [...] I tried to go one step further and include the key signature and time signature in my example, see the attached code. [...] Hi Marc, how about

Re: flip clef, key and time signature [Re: flip clef at end of line only]

2017-04-16 Thread Thomas Morley
ine-breaking = #(lambda (grob) (if (equal? >> (ly:item-break-dir grob) LEFT) (ly:grob-set-property! grob 'stencil >> (lambda (grobb) (grob-interpret-markup grobb #{ \markup \translate >> #'(0 . 2) \flip \musicglyph #"clefs.G" #}) > > > I tried to go one step

flip clef, key and time signature [Re: flip clef at end of line only]

2017-04-16 Thread Marc Hohl
-breaking = #(lambda (grob) (if (equal? (ly:item-break-dir grob) LEFT) (ly:grob-set-property! grob 'stencil (lambda (grobb) (grob-interpret-markup grobb #{ \markup \translate #'(0 . 2) \flip \musicglyph #"clefs.G" #}) I tried to go one step further and include the key signature and time

Re: ancient custom time signature

2017-02-23 Thread Simon Albrecht
Am 21.02.2017 um 13:23 schrieb k...@aspodata.se: Jean Brefort: ... You might use something like: \override Staff.TimeSignature #'stencil = #ly:text-interface::print \override Staff.TimeSignature #'text = \markup {\musicglyph #"timesig.mensural34" \lower #0.9 \bold \large "3"} Thanks,

Re: ancient custom time signature

2017-02-21 Thread karl
Karl: > Phil Holmes: > > From: > > >I have a piece with the following time sigs: > > > alla breve > > > timesig.mensural34 followed by a 3. > > > alla breve > > > > > > How do I typeset the timesig.mensural34 followed by a 3 where > > > it should be ? ... Found a solution,

Re: ancient custom time signature

2017-02-21 Thread karl
Jean Brefort: ... > You might use something like: >   \override Staff.TimeSignature #'stencil = #ly:text-interface::print >   \override Staff.TimeSignature #'text = \markup {\musicglyph > #"timesig.mensural34" \lower #0.9 \bold \large "3"} Thanks, that make the time sigs same size. Regards,

Re: ancient custom time signature

2017-02-21 Thread karl
Phil Holmes: > From: > >I have a piece with the following time sigs: > > alla breve > > timesig.mensural34 followed by a 3. > > alla breve > > > > How do I typeset the timesig.mensural34 followed by a 3 where > > it should be ? ... > > I try to typeset [1], on page 6 (101 in the

Re: ancient custom time signature

2017-02-21 Thread Jean Brefort
Le mardi 21 février 2017 à 12:29 +0100, k...@aspodata.se a écrit : > I have a piece with the following time sigs: >  alla breve >  timesig.mensural34 followed by a 3. >  alla breve > > How do I typeset the timesig.mensural34 followed by a 3 where > it should be ? > > /// > > I try to typeset

Re: ancient custom time signature

2017-02-21 Thread Phil Holmes
- Original Message - From: <k...@aspodata.se> To: <lilypond-user@gnu.org> Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2017 11:29 AM Subject: ancient custom time signature I have a piece with the following time sigs: alla breve timesig.mensural34 followed by a 3. alla breve How

ancient custom time signature

2017-02-21 Thread karl
I have a piece with the following time sigs: alla breve timesig.mensural34 followed by a 3. alla breve How do I typeset the timesig.mensural34 followed by a 3 where it should be ? /// I try to typeset [1], on page 6 (101 in the original), there is this mensuration (time sig.): "tempus

Re: Double time signature when there are grace notes

2017-02-17 Thread ArnoldTheresius
o an solution), so finally the "issue 34" can be solved in the core of lilypond one day in the future. Arnold -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/Double-time-signature-when-there-are-grace-notes-tp199984p

Re: Double time signature when there are grace notes

2017-02-13 Thread David Kastrup
Simon Albrecht writes: > On 13.02.2017 18:35, Michael Rivers wrote: >> I guess it must be incredibly difficult to solve or it would >> have been solved by now. > > Very recently, David Kastrup wrote about having made like half a dozen > attempts that didn’t work out. And

Re: Double time signature when there are grace notes

2017-02-13 Thread Simon Albrecht
On 13.02.2017 18:35, Michael Rivers wrote: I guess it must be incredibly difficult to solve or it would have been solved by now. Very recently, David Kastrup wrote about having made like half a dozen attempts that didn’t work out. And he’s definitely the most capable programmer and the one

Re: Double time signature when there are grace notes

2017-02-13 Thread Michael Rivers
rs. I know absolutely nothing about the inner workings, but I guess it must be incredibly difficult to solve or it would have been solved by now. -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/Double-time-signature-when-there-are-grace-notes-tp199984p200079.html Sent fro

Re: Double time signature when there are grace notes

2017-02-11 Thread Thomas Morley
2017-02-11 22:49 GMT+01:00 Thomas Weber : > Am 11.02.2017 um 13:51 schrieb Thomas Morley: >> >> >> Arnold has put up some work to get a more automagic workflow. >> >> http://lsr.di.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=990 >> http://lsr.di.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=978 >> >> IIRC his work is not

Re: Double time signature when there are grace notes

2017-02-11 Thread Thomas Weber
Am 11.02.2017 um 13:51 schrieb Thomas Morley: Arnold has put up some work to get a more automagic workflow. http://lsr.di.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=990 http://lsr.di.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=978 IIRC his work is not finished, so you probably will need to fall back to grace-spacers sometimes...

Re: Double time signature when there are grace notes

2017-02-11 Thread arnepe
another solution would be to put the spacer grace in a separate variable (e.g. \global), as opposed to adding invisible graces in every staff ... cheers Arne -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/Double-time-signature-when-there-are-grace-notes

Re: Double time signature when there are grace notes

2017-02-11 Thread Thomas Morley
2017-02-11 8:48 GMT+01:00 Thomas Weber : > I already realized that: > >>> Le 10 févr. 2017 à 23:23, Thomas Weber a écrit : >>> >>> * I can add a "grace space" to the bottom staff > > > > But I tried to avoid this for the following reasons: > > >>> * The staffs

Re: Double time signature when there are grace notes

2017-02-11 Thread Simon Albrecht
On 11.02.2017 08:48, Thomas Weber wrote: Would you work with tags to remove the invisible graces? Sounds like a good idea. Of course this is not a nice situation, cumbersome to deal with. But it’s an extremely hard-to-fix bug also. Best, Simon

Re: Double time signature when there are grace notes

2017-02-10 Thread Thomas Weber
Am 10.02.2017 um 23:48 schrieb Jacques Menu Muzhic: Not a bug, but a feature : you have to add graces in all voices : I already realized that: Le 10 févr. 2017 à 23:23, Thomas Weber a écrit : * I can add a "grace space" to the bottom staff But I tried to avoid this

Re: Double time signature when there are grace notes

2017-02-10 Thread Noeck
Am 10.02.2017 um 23:48 schrieb Jacques Menu Muzhic: > Not a bug, but a feature Well, I'd say a bug but a well known one: https://sourceforge.net/p/testlilyissues/issues/34/ Joram ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org

Re: Double time signature when there are grace notes

2017-02-10 Thread Jacques Menu Muzhic
can add a "grace space" to the bottom staff[1] > > Both solutions have the following disadvantages I want to avoid: > > * The staffs won't work standalone (missing time signature or broken spacing). > * I have to analyze all other staffs when writing out one staff. &g

Double time signature when there are grace notes

2017-02-10 Thread Thomas Weber
ntly? There are dirty workarounds: * I can fix it by removing the \time from the bottom staff. * I can add a "grace space" to the bottom staff[1] Both solutions have the following disadvantages I want to avoid: * The staffs won't work standalone (missing time signature or broken spacing

Re:\removing the time signature (Noeck)

2017-01-25 Thread Sam Frybyte
​Thank you the first suggestion worked yes I forgot version and yes I was using \cadenzaOn best j​ On Wed, Jan 25, 2017 at 2:56 AM, <lilypond-user-requ...@gnu.org> wrote: > Re:\removing the time signature (Noeck) -- Jay Hamilton Sound & Silence www.soundand.com

Re: \removing the time signature

2017-01-25 Thread Noeck
> here are two more possibilites. I would choose the first one: Btw: Why is the spacing different between the two? ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user

Re: \removing the time signature

2017-01-25 Thread Noeck
Hi Sam, here are two more possibilites. I would choose the first one: \version "2.19.53" % version 1 { \omit Staff.TimeSignature % \override Staff.TimeSignature.stencil = ##f % equivalent \cadenzaOn % start a cadenza (no meter) a a a a a1 \bar "|" } % version 2 \score{ { a4 a a

Re: \removing the time signature

2017-01-24 Thread Gianmaria Lari
nd.org/doc/v2.18/Documentation/notation/ > displaying-rhythms#metronome-marks > > > > \set Score.tempoHideNote = ##t > > > > ___ > > lilypond-user mailing list > > > lilypond-user@ > > > https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user > &

Re: \removing the time signature

2017-01-24 Thread SoundsFromSound
o/lilypond-user You would use \set Score.tempoHideNote = ##t to hide a time signature? Hmm, I'm afraid I've never done that. I would have thought it would be something like: \once \override Staff.TimeSignature #'stencil = ##f Are you using \cadenzaOn in this piece? Or are you using meters

Re: \removing the time signature

2017-01-24 Thread Gianmaria Lari
On 25 January 2017 at 00:31, Sam Frybyte wrote: > I know it's possible but I need someone to direct me to the snippet or > place in the manuals so I can invisiblize it for a cadenza piece, just the > link. >

\removing the time signature

2017-01-24 Thread Sam Frybyte
I know it's possible but I need someone to direct me to the snippet or place in the manuals so I can invisiblize it for a cadenza piece, just the link. Thanks -- Jay Hamilton Sound & Silence www.soundand.com 206-328-7694 ___ lilypond-user mailing list

Re: Faking a time signature

2017-01-15 Thread Jacques Menu Muzhic
Hello Malte, Excellent, thanks! JM > Le 15 janv. 2017 à 23:18, Malte Meyn a écrit : > > Am 15.01.2017 um 22:00 schrieb Menu Jacques: >> Hello, >> >> Going on with my Gabrieli example, there is a time change to 3/2, and I >> can’t get rid of the warning message on the

Re: Faking a time signature

2017-01-15 Thread Malte Meyn
Am 15.01.2017 um 22:00 schrieb Menu Jacques: > Hello, > > Going on with my Gabrieli example, there is a time change to 3/2, and I > can’t get rid of the warning message on the first R1*3/2. > > Thanks again for your help! > > JM You can adjust the measureLength for this last, shorter measure

Re: Faking a time signature

2017-01-15 Thread Menu Jacques
Hello, Going on with my Gabrieli example, there is a time change to 3/2, and I can’t get rid of the warning message on the first R1*3/2. Thanks again for your help! JM %% \version "2.19.44" PartPFourVoiceOne = \relative g { \set Score.barNumberVisibility =

Re: Faking a time signature

2017-01-13 Thread Menu Jacques
Hello Andrew, Marte and Simon, Thanks for the solutions, sorry I missed that topic in december. Maybe such use of Staff.timeSignatureFraction is worth being mentioned in this context in the LPNR? (Score.measureLength is not as of 2.19.31). JM > Le 13 janv. 2017 à 17:13, Simon Albrecht

Re: Faking a time signature

2017-01-13 Thread Simon Albrecht
On 13.01.2017 15:12, N. Andrew Walsh wrote: I'd probably reduce all note-values by half I strongly advise against that. It obscures the historical evolution of notation and thus takes away an important bit of information from the performer. And honestly: it doesn’t make it significantly

Re: Faking a time signature

2017-01-13 Thread Andrew Bernard
Hi Andrew, The example I needed it for last year was Italian music from about the same period and I was making an edition from the original score, so it may have been fairly common practice at that time. Andrew ___ lilypond-user mailing list

Re: Faking a time signature

2017-01-13 Thread N. Andrew Walsh
. In this case, I'd probably reduce all note-values by half and keep the slashed-c in the time signature. But like I said: my own expertise in this area is rather limited. Cheers, A On Fri, Jan 13, 2017 at 2:29 PM, Menu Jacques <imj-...@bluewin.ch> wrote: > Hello folks, > > In a Canzon

Re: Faking a time signature

2017-01-13 Thread Malte Meyn
Am 13.01.2017 um 14:29 schrieb Menu Jacques: > Hello folks, > > In a Canzon by Gabrieli, we have 4/2 time written as slashed C: > \time sets timeSignatureFraction and measureLength. So you can either use time and set one of these context properties or you set both of them and don’t need

Re: Faking a time signature

2017-01-13 Thread Andrew Bernard
Hi Jacques, \set Staff.timeSignatureFraction = #'(2 . 2) \time 4/2 I asked the same question in December, Andrew ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user

Faking a time signature

2017-01-13 Thread Menu Jacques
Hello folks, In a Canzon by Gabrieli, we have 4/2 time written as slashed C: I tried: \once \override Score.TimeSignature.stencil = ##f \numericTimeSignature\time 2/2 | % 1 \numericTimeSignature\time 4/2 | % 1 but this displays no time signature at all since both \time’s occur

Re: Find out denominator of current time signature

2017-01-12 Thread Thomas Weber
11.01.2017 um 18:46 schrieb Malte Meyn: You can get the duration from the context property timeSignatureFraction or baseMoment: % \version "2.19.53" { \time 12/8 \applyContext #(lambda (context) (display (ly:context-property context

Re: Find out denominator of current time signature

2017-01-11 Thread Malte Meyn
Am 11.01.2017 um 14:00 schrieb Thomas Weber: > Dear all, > > I wonder how I can create a duration that is so to say exactly one time > signature denominator long (e.g. an eigth in 6/8, a quarter in 4/4 > etc.). I thought something like this would work: You can get th

Find out denominator of current time signature

2017-01-11 Thread Thomas Weber
Dear all, I wonder how I can create a duration that is so to say exactly one time signature denominator long (e.g. an eigth in 6/8, a quarter in 4/4 etc.). I thought something like this would work: #(make-music 'SkipEvent 'duration (ly:make-duration 0 0 1

Re: Getting rid of extra space at the break of the line [time signature change]?

2016-11-22 Thread kmg
Thanks, that looks good. However, is there a way to enable it again if needed? This trick is only needed in the beginning of the piece, not throughout the whole score. If it can be only changed globally, then I'll deal with the extra space I guess. Curious though if it's possible to do it only

RE: Getting rid of extra space at the break of the line [time signature change]?

2016-11-22 Thread Andrew Bernard
Hi Krzystof, Is this what you require (based on the MWE you sent me personally)? If so, it’s a matter of putting things in the right logical structural place. Andrew == snip \version "2.19.50" \language "deutsch" global = { \key b \major \numericTimeSignature

Getting rid of extra space at the break of the line [time signature change]?

2016-11-22 Thread kmg
What is going on guys, Thanks for your recent help, now I'm digging LilyPond more and more, but after searching in the manuals/snippets, I couldn't find how to fix this: http://i.imgur.com/L5YCxnv.png In this case time signature is stated in the beginning, when instrument starts solo. Then I

hide time signature in markup command

2016-11-21 Thread Marc Mouries
i use a shorthand mark up command to insert music snippets into text. See below definition "WriteScore" I'd like to add a command to hide the time signature \override Staff.TimeSignature #'stencil = ##f In scheme the command should be something like this : (make-music 'Overri

Re: How to get a polymeter with time signature 89888449/5199909 against 742739/45045

2016-11-07 Thread Urs Liska
it's unimportant whether Lilypond crashes as long as we can generate > something that can be patched together as a png or svg file and then > printed. > > > > > > -- > View this message in context: > http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/How-to-get-a-polymeter-wi

Re: How to get a polymeter with time signature 89888449/5199909 against 742739/45045

2016-11-07 Thread mclaren
or svg file and then printed. -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/How-to-get-a-polymeter-with-time-signature-89888449-5199909-against-742739-45045-tp196205p196251.html Sent from the User mailing list archive at Nabble.com

Re: How to get a polymeter with time signature 89888449/5199909 against 742739/45045

2016-11-06 Thread David Bellows
ctions, then deleting the > actual meter used and engraving the real time signature by hand on both > staves. Then we use a tuplet to squish one meter so that it fits in the time > of the other meter (to within 7 parts in 100,000, which is probably close > enough). > > Here's the score. Unf

How to get a polymeter with time signature 89888449/5199909 against 742739/45045

2016-11-06 Thread mclaren
Lilypond crashes with the familiar error code if we enter those time signatures directly. But there is a workaround, and it involves approximating both meters with smaller rational fractions, then deleting the actual meter used and engraving the real time signature by hand on both staves. Then we

Re: compound time signature with non duple denominator

2016-11-04 Thread Hans Åberg
> On 5 Nov 2016, at 00:03, David Wright wrote: >>> Mairi's Wedding is completely regular; it has five 8-bar >>> sections, which happens to sum to 40: >> >> But they have to play it A B A B B, where each letter is a 8-bar section. > > For that original tune, that's

Re: compound time signature with non duple denominator

2016-11-04 Thread David Wright
On Fri 04 Nov 2016 at 21:09:20 (+0100), Hans Åberg wrote: > > > On 4 Nov 2016, at 20:31, David Wright wrote: > > > > On Fri 04 Nov 2016 at 10:55:45 (+0100), Hans Åberg wrote: > >> On 4 Nov 2016, at 03:21, David Wright wrote: > > > > (in a

Re: compound time signature with non duple denominator

2016-11-04 Thread Hans Åberg
> On 4 Nov 2016, at 20:31, David Wright wrote: > > On Fri 04 Nov 2016 at 10:55:45 (+0100), Hans Åberg wrote: >> On 4 Nov 2016, at 03:21, David Wright wrote: > > (in a different timezone) > >>> My own experience of dancing is mainly >>> in

Re: compound time signature with non duple denominator

2016-11-04 Thread David Wright
On Fri 04 Nov 2016 at 10:55:45 (+0100), Hans Åberg wrote: > On 4 Nov 2016, at 03:21, David Wright wrote: (in a different timezone) > > My own experience of dancing is mainly > > in the Scottish Country Dancing tradition, where such rhythmic > > irregularities would be

Re: compound time signature with non duple denominator

2016-11-04 Thread Hans Åberg
not sure exactly what meter you want, but if the proportions are >> 3+3+3+3+1, then it will likely feel like a common 9 = 2+2+2+3 with a slight >> time bend shortening the last beat a bit, which is normally done. > > I don't want any meter. All I wanted to do was answer t

Re: compound time signature with non duple denominator

2016-11-03 Thread David Wright
n the web or are there special books? > If he doesn't, then > the question was unclear and we're answering something that wasn't asked. Well, most of us concluded that the OP probably knew what notes should be contained in each bar better than the appropriate time signature, looking at the question pos

Re: compound time signature with non duple denominator

2016-11-03 Thread Tobin Chodos
> of every measure. If he does, then the 3's are correct. If he doesn't, then > the question was unclear and we're answering something that wasn't asked. > > > > -- > View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5. > nabble.com/compound-time-signature-with-non-dupl

Re: compound time signature with non duple denominator

2016-11-03 Thread mclaren
Yes, I realized that. Thanks for the correction. -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/compound-time-signature-with-non-duple-denominator-tp195829p196119.html Sent from the User mailing list archive at Nabble.com

Re: compound time signature with non duple denominator

2016-11-03 Thread David Wright
On Fri 04 Nov 2016 at 02:44:56 (+0100), Urs Liska wrote: > > > Am 04.11.2016 um 02:39 schrieb Urs Liska: > > > > Am 02.11.2016 um 19:10 schrieb Chris Yate: > >> particularly as it utterly confuses those players that don't know how > >> to parse it. > > Any musical notation utterly confuses those

Re: compound time signature with non duple denominator

2016-11-03 Thread mclaren
ge in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/compound-time-signature-with-non-duple-denominator-tp195829p196117.html Sent from the User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailm

Re: compound time signature with non duple denominator

2016-11-03 Thread mclaren
asked. -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/compound-time-signature-with-non-duple-denominator-tp195829p196116.html Sent from the User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user

Re: compound time signature with non duple denominator

2016-11-03 Thread mclaren
5:4 5:4 q q 5:4 5:4 Both measures add up to eight quarter notes, but the pulse is irregular due to the broken tuplets. -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/compound-time-signature-with-non-duple-denominator-tp195829p196115.html Sent from the User mail

Re: compound time signature with non duple denominator

2016-11-03 Thread David Wright
ns are now 3+3+3+3+ 4+4+ 4+4+ 3+3+3+3+ 4+4 / 48. > >>> So taking this Leventikos pattern, I've bent the "4/4+1/3" so > >>> that it contains similar tupleticity, to coin a nonce word. > >> > >> Yes, indeed. In the Leventikos, the quadruplet pattern occ

Re: compound time signature with non duple denominator

2016-11-03 Thread Urs Liska
Am 04.11.2016 um 02:39 schrieb Urs Liska: > > Am 02.11.2016 um 19:10 schrieb Chris Yate: >> particularly as it utterly confuses those players that don't know how >> to parse it. > Any musical notation utterly confuses those players that don't know how > to parse it. Actually you could extend

Re: compound time signature with non duple denominator

2016-11-03 Thread Urs Liska
Am 04.11.2016 um 01:56 schrieb mclaren: > Oops. Unless I'm mistaken, 4 + 1 triplet eighth note would be 4 + 1/6, not 4 > + 1/3. You *are* mistaken. 4 quarters + 1 triplet eight is 4/4 + 1/12. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org

Re: compound time signature with non duple denominator

2016-11-03 Thread David Wright
On Thu 03 Nov 2016 at 18:00:59 (-0700), mclaren wrote: > "Wouldn't that rather be (4 + 2/3)/4?" > > Yes, I think you're right. 1/3 is presumably half of the value of a triplet > quarter note, so 1 triplet eighth note. I've corrected that in my second > Lilypond example. My bad. > > Change the

Re: compound time signature with non duple denominator

2016-11-03 Thread Urs Liska
Am 02.11.2016 um 19:10 schrieb Chris Yate: > particularly as it utterly confuses those players that don't know how > to parse it. Any musical notation utterly confuses those players that don't know how to parse it. Actually you could extend that to written text as well.

Re: compound time signature with non duple denominator

2016-11-03 Thread David Wright
On Thu 03 Nov 2016 at 17:13:14 (-0700), mclaren wrote: > I have an even more diabolical question, related to the one at the start of > this thread. > > But let me first answer the original question, which was: "Is there a way to > implement a non-binary time signature like

Re: compound time signature with non duple denominator

2016-11-03 Thread mclaren
ot of 1119, now, that's considered exotic today. -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/compound-time-signature-with-non-duple-denominator-tp195829p196107.html Sent from the User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ lil

Re: compound time signature with non duple denominator

2016-11-03 Thread mclaren
a 3 to get the meter to display correctly. But the measures do print correctly, so this code should get what Tobin Chodos wants, I think, 4 quarter notes + 1 triplet eighth in every measure. -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/compound-time-signature-with-n

Re: compound time signature with non duple denominator

2016-11-03 Thread mclaren
taff { \clef "treble" \relative c'' \override Staff.TimeSignature #'stencil = ##f \time 13/8 % We need this time signature to get the beat % structure, but this time signature won't print. % Now we insert the time sig that does print. % This is the time signature

Re: compound time signature with non duple denominator

2016-11-03 Thread Martin Neubauer
On 04/11/2016 01:13, mclaren wrote: > This seems like an entirely valid question. 1/3 would be a single triplet > note, right? That is, if we're dealing with (4 + 1/3)/4, then what we want > is 4 quarter notes + 1 triplet quarter note, correct? Wouldn't that be rather (4 + 2/3)/4? -- Not the

Re: compound time signature with non duple denominator

2016-11-03 Thread mclaren
I have an even more diabolical question, related to the one at the start of this thread. But let me first answer the original question, which was: "Is there a way to implement a non-binary time signature like 4 + 1/3?" I think I know a way to do this. This seems like an entirely vali

Re: compound time signature with non duple denominator

2016-11-03 Thread Hans Åberg
o coin a nonce word. >> >> Yes, indeed. In the Leventikos, the quadruplet pattern occurs consistently. >> When performing, there are slower 1/16th contrasted with faster ones. Some >> performers have triplets on the 2s, and quintuplets occur in Balkan music as >> we

Re: compound time signature with non duple denominator

2016-11-03 Thread David Wright
t; >>>>> > >>>>> On Fri 28 Oct 2016 at 11:22:00 (-0700), Tobin Chodos wrote: > >>>>>> Forgive me if this is a too-easy issue for the list, but: is there a > >>>>>> way to > >>>>>> define a time compound

Re: compound time signature with non duple denominator

2016-11-03 Thread Hans Åberg
Wed 02 Nov 2016 at 20:10:39 (+0100), Hans Åberg wrote: >>>> >>>>> On 28 Oct 2016, at 21:48, David Wright <lily...@lionunicorn.co.uk> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> On Fri 28 Oct 2016 at 11:22:00 (-0700), Tobin Chodos wrote: >>>>>> Forgive m

Re: compound time signature with non duple denominator

2016-11-02 Thread David Wright
, David Wright <lily...@lionunicorn.co.uk> wrote: > >>> > >>> On Fri 28 Oct 2016 at 11:22:00 (-0700), Tobin Chodos wrote: > >>>> Forgive me if this is a too-easy issue for the list, but: is there a way > >>>> to > >>>> define a time

Re: compound time signature with non duple denominator

2016-11-02 Thread Hans Åberg
ri 28 Oct 2016 at 11:22:00 (-0700), Tobin Chodos wrote: >>>> Forgive me if this is a too-easy issue for the list, but: is there a way to >>>> define a time compound time signature such as 4/4 + 1/3? That is, the >>>> measure is four quarter notes long plus one triplet

Re: compound time signature with non duple denominator

2016-11-02 Thread David Wright
ue for the list, but: is there a way to > >> define a time compound time signature such as 4/4 + 1/3? That is, the > >> measure is four quarter notes long plus one triplet eighth note. > > > > Isn't this just 13/8? Three triplet eighth notes make a quarter note. > > So

Re: compound time signature with non duple denominator

2016-11-02 Thread Hans Åberg
> On 2 Nov 2016, at 19:02, tisimst <tisimst.lilyp...@gmail.com> wrote: > > ... as Kieren and I saw on a facebook group the other day when a composer > started a discussion about having a bar with an "irrational" 2/6 time > signature. Wow, the flames that ensued!

Re: compound time signature with non duple denominator

2016-11-02 Thread Hans Åberg
> On 28 Oct 2016, at 21:48, David Wright <lily...@lionunicorn.co.uk> wrote: > > On Fri 28 Oct 2016 at 11:22:00 (-0700), Tobin Chodos wrote: >> Forgive me if this is a too-easy issue for the list, but: is there a way to >> define a time compound time

Re: compound time signature with non duple denominator

2016-11-02 Thread Chris Yate
h it's not *embraced* by > all. > > ... as Kieren and I saw on a facebook group the other day when a composer > started a discussion about having a bar with an "irrational" 2/6 time > signature. Wow, the flames that ensued! It's quite simple: > > { \time 2/6 \tuplet 3/2 {

Re: compound time signature with non duple denominator

2016-11-02 Thread tisimst
ed a discussion about having a bar with an "irrational" 2/6 time signature. Wow, the flames that ensued! It's quite simple: { \time 2/6 \tuplet 3/2 { c'4 c' } } ... with or without the tuplet number/bracket. -- Abraham -- View this message in context: http://lilypond.1069038.n5

Re: compound time signature with non duple denominator

2016-11-02 Thread David Kastrup
David Wright writes: > On Wed 02 Nov 2016 at 12:49:07 (-0400), kieren_macmillan kieren_macmillan > wrote: > > > I guess I had expected a reference/url/scan rather than "yes". Zere is some music notation zat makes me 'url. -- David Kastrup

Re: compound time signature with non duple denominator

2016-11-02 Thread David Wright
On Wed 02 Nov 2016 at 12:49:07 (-0400), kieren_macmillan kieren_macmillan wrote: I guess I had expected a reference/url/scan rather than "yes". I realise that all sorts of "odd" notations were around in preclassical times, But wouldn't claim to understand them. Does the example I've given

Re: compound time signature with non duple denominator

2016-11-02 Thread kieren_macmillan kieren_macmillan
> Forgive me if this is a too-easy issue for the list, but: is there a way> > to define a time compound time signature such as 4/4 + 1/3? That is,> > the measure is four quarter notes long plus one triplet eighth note.> > this is definitely a valid question for this list!> Th

Re: compound time signature with non duple denominator

2016-11-02 Thread David Wright
On Fri 28 Oct 2016 at 21:13:57 (+0200), Noeck wrote: > > Forgive me if this is a too-easy issue for the list, but: is there a way > > to define a time compound time signature such as 4/4 + 1/3? That is, > > the measure is four quarter notes long plus one t

Re: compound time signature with non duple denominator

2016-11-01 Thread Simon Albrecht
On 28.10.2016 21:50, Noeck wrote: Btw, having the new list syntax in mind I wondered whether this would work in recent development versions: \compoundMeter 4/4,1/3 But it does not the 4/4 translates to (4 . 4) and not (4 4). \compoundMeter (4,4),(1,3) does not work either. Can this list syntax

Re: compound time signature with non duple denominator

2016-10-28 Thread Noeck
Btw, having the new list syntax in mind I wondered whether this would work in recent development versions: \compoundMeter 4/4,1/3 But it does not the 4/4 translates to (4 . 4) and not (4 4). \compoundMeter (4,4),(1,3) does not work either. Can this list syntax be grouped somehow? I mean in a way

Re: compound time signature with non duple denominator

2016-10-28 Thread David Wright
On Fri 28 Oct 2016 at 11:22:00 (-0700), Tobin Chodos wrote: > Forgive me if this is a too-easy issue for the list, but: is there a way to > define a time compound time signature such as 4/4 + 1/3? That is, the > measure is four quarter notes long plus one triplet eighth note. Isn't thi

Re: compound time signature with non duple denominator

2016-10-28 Thread Noeck
> Forgive me if this is a too-easy issue for the list, but: is there a way > to define a time compound time signature such as 4/4 + 1/3? That is, > the measure is four quarter notes long plus one triplet eighth note. Hi Tobin, this is definitely a valid question for this list! Thi

compound time signature with non duple denominator

2016-10-28 Thread Tobin Chodos
Hi all, Forgive me if this is a too-easy issue for the list, but: is there a way to define a time compound time signature such as 4/4 + 1/3? That is, the measure is four quarter notes long plus one triplet eighth note. Thanks. Tobin Chodos

Re: 2nd ending time signature strangeness when using Devnull

2016-10-27 Thread Thomas Morley
2016-10-27 19:06 GMT+02:00 holl...@hollandhopson.com <holl...@hollandhopson.com>: > I just ran into a problem that seems to be related to Devnull. The second > ending time signature reverts to 3/4 time. If I comment out the Devnull line > then the time signatures are as expec

2nd ending time signature strangeness when using Devnull

2016-10-27 Thread holl...@hollandhopson.com
I just ran into a problem that seems to be related to Devnull. The second ending time signature reverts to 3/4 time. If I comment out the Devnull line then the time signatures are as expected. Am I using Devnull in the wrong way? Is this a bug? Thanks, Holland \version "2.19.30&quo

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