Re: Relative mode

2021-10-08 Thread Leo Correia de Verdier
By minimal we mean a piece of code that compiles clean, shows the behavior you want to show and is as short as possible, in this case it could be more like \version "2.22.1" { a'1 \break a'1 } And a solution could look like \version "2.22.1" { a'1 \break a'1 } \layout { indent = #0 } A hint a

Re: Relative mode

2021-10-07 Thread Carl Sorensen
On 10/7/21, 9:29 AM, "lilypond-user on behalf of Mahanidhi" wrote: To speak the truth I tried to have the music all together with /break command but what was happening is that the first line was starting not aligned with the other ones. LilyPond has a first-line indent by design. You

Re: Relative mode

2021-10-07 Thread Mahanidhi
To speak the truth I tried to have the music all together with /break command but what was happening is that the first line was starting not aligned with the other ones. Here a minimal example: \version "2.22.1" \language "english" global = { \key gf \major \time 4/4 \override Glissando.st

Re: Relative mode

2021-10-07 Thread David Kastrup
Leo Correia de Verdier writes: > The ”command global=” is defining a variable with a series of property > settings (mostly), \relative is not a property, it’s a function that > is preformed on the music inside the brackets following it. > > The manual is quite long, but you will eventually need t

Re: Relative mode

2021-10-07 Thread Mahanidhi
Clear thank you. Sent with ProtonMail Secure Email. ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ Il giovedì 7 ottobre 2021 13:37, Leo Correia de Verdier ha scritto: > The ”command global=” is defining a variable with a series of property > settings (mostly), \relative is not a property, it’s a function

Re: Relative mode

2021-10-07 Thread Jean Abou Samra
Le 07/10/2021 à 12:36, Mahanidhi a écrit : If so why the command  "global=" works for every lines? As Leo said, \global just inserts music content. \relative is not music in itself, it is a function applying to music. When you say { \relative c' { a' b' } { c' d' } } only the { a' b' } is pr

Re: Relative mode

2021-10-07 Thread Leo Correia de Verdier
The ”command global=” is defining a variable with a series of property settings (mostly), \relative is not a property, it’s a function that is preformed on the music inside the brackets following it. The manual is quite long, but you will eventually need to go through much of it to get what is

Re: Relative mode

2021-10-07 Thread Mahanidhi
If so why the command "global=" works for every lines? ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ Il giovedì 7 ottobre 2021 12:21, Leo Correia de Verdier ha scritto: > What you are doing is not only writing the each line on a separate line, but > also writing each line as a separate (implicitly created)

Re: Relative mode

2021-10-07 Thread Leo Correia de Verdier
What you are doing is not only writing the each line on a separate line, but also writing each line as a separate (implicitly created) score. Since they are in different scores they are not the same music expression and you need to write out the \relative for each of them. > 7 okt. 2021 kl. 11

Relative mode

2021-10-07 Thread Mahanidhi
Hello, for storage reasons I prefer to write every single line of music on different lines (see example: http://lilybin.com/cqud6p/1) I can't find a way to incorporate the \relative c' command into a single block so as not to rewrite it on every line of music. I tried with global= but it doesn't

Re: Current octave in relative mode

2020-05-17 Thread Klaus Blum
Peace be with you, guys...   ;-) The OP's eXample is more complicated but as far as I can tell this is what he's aiming at. Of course, I did some experimenting on my own before asking here on the list. I was aware that the problem only appears if I use my function inside a \relative statement,

Re: Current octave in relative mode

2020-05-16 Thread David Kastrup
\resetRelativeOctave c' > \arpeggio > } > } He was writing a _function_ using an expression twice. Not ad-hoc code. This function would not know what to use for c' here. > Despite being in relative mode, all the arpeggios will now start on > middle C. The OP's eXample

Re: Current octave in relative mode

2020-05-16 Thread antlists
at I think he was trying to achieve ... arpeggio = { c e g c } \new Staff { \relative c' { \arpeggio \resetRelativeOctave c' \arpeggio \resetRelativeOctave c' \arpeggio } } Despite being in relative mode, all the arpeggios will now start on middle C. The OP'

Re: Current octave in relative mode

2020-05-16 Thread David Kastrup
antlists writes: > On 16/05/2020 23:19, David Kastrup wrote: >>> As I say, I think this function or something similar has made its way >>> into lilypond proper. > >> What advantage over the solution using make-relative that I posted do >> you see here? > > Because if I understand the OP correctly

Re: Current octave in relative mode

2020-05-16 Thread antlists
On 16/05/2020 23:19, David Kastrup wrote: As I say, I think this function or something similar has made its way into lilypond proper. What advantage over the solution using make-relative that I posted do you see here? Because if I understand the OP correctly, what he wants is \resetRelative

Re: Current octave in relative mode

2020-05-16 Thread David Kastrup
antlists writes: > On 15/05/2020 12:28, antlists wrote: >> There's a function Han Wen wrote for me years ago, that's made its >> way in to standard lilypond. It's probably mentioned in the docu >> about relative mode. Something along the lines of >>

Re: Current octave in relative mode

2020-05-16 Thread antlists
On 15/05/2020 12:28, antlists wrote: There's a function Han Wen wrote for me years ago, that's made its way in to standard lilypond. It's probably mentioned in the docu about relative mode. Something along the lines of   c1  \highlight { c8 d e f g f e d }   \se

Re: Current octave in relative mode

2020-05-16 Thread Flaming Hakama by Elaine
; >> To: "lilypond-user@gnu.org" > >> Cc: > >> Bcc: > >> Date: Fri, 15 May 2020 12:01:06 +0200 > >> Subject: Current octave in relative mode > >> Hi, > >> > >> I have a function that uses a music expression twice.

Re: Current octave in relative mode

2020-05-16 Thread David Kastrup
Flaming Hakama by Elaine writes: >> From: Klaus Blum >> To: "lilypond-user@gnu.org" >> Cc: >> Bcc: >> Date: Fri, 15 May 2020 12:01:06 +0200 >> Subject: Current octave in relative mode >> Hi, >> >> I have a function that uses a mus

Re: Current octave in relative mode

2020-05-15 Thread Flaming Hakama by Elaine
> > -- Forwarded message -- > From: Klaus Blum > To: "lilypond-user@gnu.org" > Cc: > Bcc: > Date: Fri, 15 May 2020 12:01:06 +0200 > Subject: Current octave in relative mode > Hi, > > I have a function that uses a music expression twice

Re: Current octave in relative mode

2020-05-15 Thread David Kastrup
Klaus Blum writes: > Hi David, > > That's perfect, thanks a lot! > Cool to know that this doesn't require complicated tweaks and hacks... If you think this isn't a complicated hack, you haven't looked at the source code of make-relative... Its three arguments, by the way, are a list of variable

Re: Current octave in relative mode

2020-05-15 Thread Klaus Blum
Hi David, That's perfect, thanks a lot! Cool to know that this doesn't require complicated tweaks and hacks... Cheers, Klaus

Re: Current octave in relative mode

2020-05-15 Thread antlists
There's a function Han Wen wrote for me years ago, that's made its way in to standard lilypond. It's probably mentioned in the docu about relative mode. Something along the lines of c1 \highlight { c8 d e f g f e d } \setAbsoluteOctave ... c1 \highlight { c

Re: Current octave in relative mode

2020-05-15 Thread David Kastrup
Klaus Blum writes: > Hi, > > I have a function that uses a music expression twice. > My problem is: > In relative mode, this expression can lead into a different octave. Then > the second application of the music expression starts from that new octave. > (See the la

Current octave in relative mode

2020-05-15 Thread Klaus Blum
Hi, I have a function that uses a music expression twice. My problem is: In relative mode, this expression can lead into a different octave. Then the second application of the music expression starts from that new octave. (See the last two invocations of "\highlight" in the example

Re: [PATCH] Re: relative mode occasionally gets forgotten?

2009-05-19 Thread Jonathan Kulp
Carl D. Sorensen wrote: OK, done. Everything looked great -- you even took out some pre-existing line-ending whitespace. Must be the excellent training I've gotten. ;) One (or maybe all) of you guys--Trevor, Graham, or you--taught me to strip the trailing spaces before creating the patch.

Re: [PATCH] Re: relative mode occasionally gets forgotten?

2009-05-19 Thread Carl D. Sorensen
OK, done. Everything looked great -- you even took out some pre-existing line-ending whitespace. Thanks, Carl On 5/19/09 2:02 PM, "Jonathan Kulp" wrote: > Jonathan Kulp wrote: >> Here's a patch incorporating your suggestions, Carl. Thanks for the help. >> >> Jon >> > > Carl, when you ge

Re: [PATCH] Re: relative mode occasionally gets forgotten?

2009-05-19 Thread Jonathan Kulp
Jonathan Kulp wrote: Here's a patch incorporating your suggestions, Carl. Thanks for the help. Jon Carl, when you get a moment would you mind checking the patch I sent last night, and push if it looks ok? I don't think Trevor's going to be around for a while to do doc patches. Thanks,

[PATCH] Re: relative mode occasionally gets forgotten?

2009-05-18 Thread Jonathan Kulp
+ +Music inside a @code{\transpose} block is absolute unless a +...@code{\relative} is included. + +...@lilypond[verbatim,quote] +\relative c' { + d e + \transpose f g { +d e +\relative c' { + d e +} + } +} +...@end lilypond + + @cindex chords and relative octa

Re: relative mode occasionally gets forgotten?

2009-05-18 Thread Carl D. Sorensen
On 5/18/09 6:04 PM, "Jonathan Kulp" wrote: > Carl, > > I'm working on your suggestions and have come across a problem. > >> \relative c' { \chordmode { c \relative c'' { c }} >> > > This last example won't compile. (It was missing the last curly brace > but I added it.) Here's the termina

Re: relative mode occasionally gets forgotten?

2009-05-18 Thread Peter Chubb
> "Jonathan" == Jonathan Kulp writes: Jonathan> Carl, I'm working on your suggestions and have come across a Jonathan> problem. >> \relative c' { \chordmode { c \relative c'' { c }} >> Jonathan> This last example won't compile. (It was missing the last Jonathan> curly brace but I added it

Re: relative mode occasionally gets forgotten?

2009-05-18 Thread Jonathan Kulp
Carl, I'm working on your suggestions and have come across a problem. \relative c' { \chordmode { c \relative c'' { c }} This last example won't compile. (It was missing the last curly brace but I added it.) Here's the terminal output: chordmode.ly:1:40: error: syntax error, unexpected T

Re: relative mode occasionally gets forgotten?

2009-05-16 Thread Anthony W. Youngman
In message , Carl D. Sorensen writes On 5/15/09 3:06 PM, "Anthony W. Youngman" wrote: In message <200905151909580...@1654122929>, David Pounder writes I don't know if it's worth mentioning, but you can also run into problems using \repeat inside a \relative block if an \unfoldRepeats is us

Re: relative mode occasionally gets forgotten?

2009-05-15 Thread David Pounder
> --- Original Message --- > From: "Carl D. Sorensen" > To: "Anthony W. Youngman" , > "lilypond-user@gnu.org" > Sent: 15.5.09, 23:43:07 > Subject: Re: relative mode occasionally gets forgotten? > > > > On 5/15/0

Re: relative mode occasionally gets forgotten?

2009-05-15 Thread Carl D. Sorensen
On 5/15/09 3:06 PM, "Anthony W. Youngman" wrote: > In message <200905151909580...@1654122929>, David Pounder > writes >> >> I don't know if it's worth mentioning, but you can also run into >> problems using \repeat inside a \relative block if an \unfoldRepeats is >> used outside the block. F

Re: relative mode occasionally gets forgotten?

2009-05-15 Thread Anthony W. Youngman
In message <200905151909580...@1654122929>, David Pounder writes --- Original Message --- From: "Anthony W. Youngman" To: lilypond-user@gnu.org Sent: 15.5.09, 18:03:43 Subject: Re: relative mode occasionally gets forgotten? In message <20090515145035.ga3...@nag

Re: relative mode occasionally gets forgotten?

2009-05-15 Thread Tim McNamara
On May 15, 2009, at 9:54 AM, Chip wrote: Tim McNamara wrote: I'm not sure that the relative mode "gets forgotten" but that LilyPond follows its own internal rules. I find that LilyPond behaves the way that the manual says it does: it picks the closest pitch. If I wri

Re: relative mode occasionally gets forgotten?

2009-05-15 Thread David Pounder
> --- Original Message --- > From: "Anthony W. Youngman" > To: lilypond-user@gnu.org > Sent: 15.5.09, 18:03:43 > Subject: Re: relative mode occasionally gets forgotten? > > In message <20090515145035.ga3...@nagi>, Graham Percival > writes >

Re: relative mode occasionally gets forgotten?

2009-05-15 Thread Anthony W. Youngman
In message <20090515145035.ga3...@nagi>, Graham Percival writes On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 06:46:39AM -0600, Carl D. Sorensen wrote: First, I think that the information above should be put into 1.1.1 Writing Pitches as examples under Relative octave entry. There should be three separate items/ex

Re: relative mode occasionally gets forgotten?

2009-05-15 Thread Carl D. Sorensen
On 5/15/09 8:43 AM, "Mats Bengtsson" wrote: > > > > Carl D. Sorensen wrote: >> >> Music inside a \transpose or \chordmode block is absolute, unless a >> \relative is included inside the the \transpose or \chordmode block. When >> \relative blocks are nested, the innermost relative block a

Re: relative mode occasionally gets forgotten?

2009-05-15 Thread Chip
Tim McNamara wrote: I'm not sure that the relative mode "gets forgotten" but that LilyPond follows its own internal rules. I find that LilyPond behaves the way that the manual says it does: it picks the closest pitch. If I write { c2 a2 } it picks the A below that C rather t

Re: relative mode occasionally gets forgotten?

2009-05-15 Thread Graham Percival
On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 06:46:39AM -0600, Carl D. Sorensen wrote: > > First, I think that the information above should be put into 1.1.1 Writing > Pitches as examples under Relative octave entry. There should be three > separate items/examples: > > When relative blocks are nested, the innermost

Re: relative mode occasionally gets forgotten?

2009-05-15 Thread Mats Bengtsson
Carl D. Sorensen wrote: Music inside a \transpose or \chordmode block is absolute, unless a \relative is included inside the the \transpose or \chordmode block. When \relative blocks are nested, the innermost relative block applies. I don't understand why \chordmode (and \chords) changes b

Re: relative mode occasionally gets forgotten?

2009-05-15 Thread Tim McNamara
I'm not sure that the relative mode "gets forgotten" but that LilyPond follows its own internal rules. I find that LilyPond behaves the way that the manual says it does: it picks the closest pitch. If I write { c2 a2 } it picks the A below that C rather than the A abov

Re: relative mode occasionally gets forgotten?

2009-05-15 Thread Carl D. Sorensen
On 5/15/09 5:05 AM, "Jonathan Kulp" wrote: > Chip wrote: >> Patrick McCarty wrote: >>> On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 8:05 PM, Chip wrote: >>> >>> >>> I think this is the issue mentioned in the Known Issues for Chapter >>> 1.1.2 "Transpose" in the Notation Reference. However, the two >>> sentences

Re: relative mode occasionally gets forgotten?

2009-05-15 Thread Ian Hulin
(normal /concert pitch/)" 2. The text should be changed from "The relative conversion will not affect \transpose, \chordmode or \relative sections in its argument. To use relative mode within transposed music, an additional \relative must be placed inside \transpose. " to "

Re: relative mode occasionally gets forgotten?

2009-05-15 Thread Jonathan Kulp
Chip wrote: Patrick McCarty wrote: On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 8:05 PM, Chip wrote: Chip wrote: I've come across this a couple times - when I am inputting a song it all works fine in \relative mode. I do some editing, some copy/paste from one part to another, view the resulting pd

Re: relative mode occasionally gets forgotten?

2009-05-14 Thread Chip
Patrick McCarty wrote: On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 8:05 PM, Chip wrote: Chip wrote: I've come across this a couple times - when I am inputting a song it all works fine in \relative mode. I do some editing, some copy/paste from one part to another, view the resulting pdf and se

Re: relative mode occasionally gets forgotten?

2009-05-14 Thread Patrick McCarty
On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 8:05 PM, Chip wrote: > Chip wrote: >> >> I've come across this a couple times - when I am inputting a song it all >> works fine in \relative mode. I do some editing, some copy/paste from one >> part to another, view the resulting pdf an

Re: relative mode occasionally gets forgotten?

2009-05-14 Thread Jonathan Kulp
Chip wrote: Chip wrote: I've come across this a couple times - when I am inputting a song it all works fine in \relative mode. I do some editing, some copy/paste from one part to another, view the resulting pdf and see the octaves are all messed up. The only way to fix them is to use abs

Re: relative mode occasionally gets forgotten?

2009-05-14 Thread Chip
Chip wrote: I've come across this a couple times - when I am inputting a song it all works fine in \relative mode. I do some editing, some copy/paste from one part to another, view the resulting pdf and see the octaves are all messed up. The only way to fix them is to use absolute o

relative mode occasionally gets forgotten?

2009-05-14 Thread Chip
I've come across this a couple times - when I am inputting a song it all works fine in \relative mode. I do some editing, some copy/paste from one part to another, view the resulting pdf and see the octaves are all messed up. The only way to fix them is to use absolute octave marks in

Re: help with relative mode

2007-10-21 Thread Graham Percival
'm looking for. in the snippet below I'm using \relative mode and defined "one" and "two". When I compile i want the second occurrence of "one" to be in the same octave as the first occurrence. How can I do this using relative mode? something like: \octav

help with relative mode

2007-10-21 Thread Adam Good
Hi everyone, Seems like there is a fairly simple solution but I couldn't even think of how to search the manual or email archives for what I'm looking for. in the snippet below I'm using \relative mode and defined "one" and "two". When I compile i want t

Re: How to indicate a note is in absolute pitch/position while the rest of the notes are in relative mode?

2006-05-13 Thread Xiaoyu Ding
Thanks for your reply. I tried octave check but it simply does not print out the note which I wanted to be in absolute pitch. ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user

Re: How to indicate a note is in absolute pitch/position while the rest of the notes are in relative mode?

2006-05-13 Thread Graham Percival
On 13-May-06, at 9:38 AM, Xiaoyu Ding wrote: In relative mode, is there a simple way to indicate one note is in absolute mode, not relative to the note before it, and not impact the next note's position. I don't know of any. Why not just use an octave check? Cheers

How to indicate a note is in absolute pitch/position while the rest of the notes are in relative mode?

2006-05-13 Thread Xiaoyu Ding
In relative mode, is there a simple way to indicate one note is in absolute mode, not relative to the note before it, and not impact the next note's position. For example: \relative c { ... ... ... ... }

Re: absolute pitches in relative mode

2005-12-24 Thread Graham Percival
On 24-Dec-05, at 9:50 AM, Kenneth Teh wrote: --- Gilles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: AFAIK, it's the fundamental of the chord that's taken into account to determine the following pitch in \relative mode. Just to clarify: When I wrote "chord", I meant something

Re: absolute pitches in relative mode

2005-12-24 Thread Kenneth Teh
e chord that's > taken into > account to determine the following pitch in > \relative mode. > > > Gilles > > > ___ > lilypond-user mailing list > lilypond-user@gnu.org > http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listin

Re: absolute pitches in relative mode

2005-12-23 Thread Gilles
Hi. > [...] If it's a single note, there's no > problem, but if the precedent is a chord how does Lily > figure out the pitch of the following note. AFAIK, it's the fundamental of the chord that's taken into account to determine the following pitc

absolute pitches in relative mode

2005-12-23 Thread Kenneth Teh
I writing a piano arrangement with polyphony and I find myself correcting the absolute pitches a lot. I can't figure out how the octave of the next note is determined. If it's a single note, there's no problem, but if the precedent is a chord how does Lily figure out the pitch of the following no

Re: relative mode

2005-06-21 Thread Graham Percival
treated as "closer" than a diminished fifth. Roman, see the doc page about relative mode for examples (with sample output). Cheers, - Graham ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user

Re: relative mode

2005-06-21 Thread Andy Rich
On 6/21/05, Roman V. Isaev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >I'm not a good musician. In other words, I never can tell when > the next note is going to be octave up or down. On other hand it's > difficult to enter scores without relative mode, too much typing. > So

Re: relative mode

2005-06-21 Thread Mats Bengtsson
ote: I'm not a good musician. In other words, I never can tell when the next note is going to be octave up or down. On other hand it's difficult to enter scores without relative mode, too much typing. So how to cope with this? Is it possible to tune vim that it would show where the

relative mode

2005-06-21 Thread Roman V. Isaev
I'm not a good musician. In other words, I never can tell when the next note is going to be octave up or down. On other hand it's difficult to enter scores without relative mode, too much typing. So how to cope with this? Is it possible to tune vim that it would show where the

Re: relative mode in the case of tritones

2004-03-31 Thread David Bobroff
At 07:45 PM 3/31/2004 -0600, you wrote: >Hi All, > >I have a question about how tritones are treated in relative octave mode. >The manual says that by default each interval is made to be a fourth or >less. What happens in the case of a tritone? Is an augmented fourth >treated differently than a dim

relative mode in the case of tritones

2004-03-31 Thread Ben Crowell
Hi All, I have a question about how tritones are treated in relative octave mode. The manual says that by default each interval is made to be a fourth or less. What happens in the case of a tritone? Is an augmented fourth treated differently than a diminished fifth, or is it enharmonic? AFAICT rig

Re: non-relative relative mode?

2004-02-28 Thread David Raleigh Arnold
On Friday 27 February 2004 16:48, Ferenc Wagner wrote: > David Raleigh Arnold <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > The new version of sly will split into parts content > > formatted in any combination of fields and lines. More > > features are planned, but it all works and I'll try to get > > it up on

Re: non-relative relative mode?

2004-02-27 Thread Ferenc Wagner
David Raleigh Arnold <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > The new version of sly will split into parts content > formatted in any combination of fields and lines. More > features are planned, but it all works and I'll try to get > it up on my website by Monday. Hi David, What happens if some error cre

Re: non-relative relative mode?

2004-02-27 Thread David Raleigh Arnold
On Thursday 26 February 2004 19:58, donald_j_axel wrote: > On Thu, 26 Feb 2004 17:57:19 -0500 > > David Raleigh Arnold <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > http://www.openguitar.com/files/octly.txt > > Ok - creative bid on another solution. > > I have considered formating piano and scores something like

Re: non-relative relative mode?

2004-02-26 Thread Kieren Richard MacMillan
described above (i.e., when to use the tick given two consecutive pitches, especially tritones, etc.); 2. Understanding the rules regarding chords and simultaneous notes. It's #2 in particular (I think?) that makes the \relative mode seem "unpredictable" until you are quite comfor

Re: non-relative relative mode?

2004-02-26 Thread Kieren Richard MacMillan
Hello, all -- One more clarification that might help \relative newbies... Unlike \transpose x {}, the pitch that is chosen to "define" (begin) the \relative mode block is used ONLY to provide the "relative origin" for the FIRST NOTE, and has no other effect on future pitche

Re: non-relative relative mode?

2004-02-26 Thread Erik Sandberg
On Thursday 26 February 2004 11.29, Mats Bengtsson wrote: > I assume that you mean \transpose and nothing else. > Of course, this is one good approach to avoid having to > type all the ' and ,. However, I still recommend you to > give the \relative another try. I think most people on this > list ag

Re: non-relative relative mode?

2004-02-26 Thread GoochRules!
case in some piano music. This is EXACTLY what I'm doing. For some reason I have decided to write all chords top-note down. On my first try in relative mode I found my subsequent chords leaping off the staff -- each successive chord would begin about two octaves above the previous, a

Re: non-relative relative mode?

2004-02-26 Thread ario
clarification that might help \relative newbies... > > Unlike \transpose x {}, the pitch that is chosen to "define" (begin) > the \relative mode block is used ONLY to provide the "relative origin" > for the FIRST NOTE, and has no other effect on future pitches. >

Re: non-relative relative mode?

2004-02-26 Thread Matthias Kilian
problems using relative mode with my chaconne experiment. But whenever it becomes too complicated, I break the music into very short sequences (sometimes only one bar¹), so I can see where one polyphonic voice ends (and wether to apply octave switches to the start of the next polyphonic voice). I

Re: non-relative relative mode?

2004-02-26 Thread Erik Sandberg
some reason I have decided to > write all chords top-note down. On my first try in relative mode I > found my subsequent chords leaping off the staff -- each successive > chord would begin about two octaves above the previous, and the notes > within the chord where not in the octaves I ha

Re: non-relative relative mode?

2004-02-26 Thread donald_j_axel
more than 10 bars I guess this becomes more and more of an issue. So personal tastes vary. Use what you like. It takes a fraction of a second to enter a lot of '''' Therefore use transpose for what it is meant to do, not as a relative replacement. In certain contexts you eve

Refactoring - was non-relative relative mode

2004-02-26 Thread Bertalan Fodor
> ²) Hey, any Eclipse/Java hackers around? What about a LilyPond plugin > for Eclipse, with refactoring support? Well, I am working on the plugin for jEdit. I thought that an Eclipse plugin would also be funny to work with, but I wanted to have an editor that starts faster than Eclipse. However,

Re: non-relative relative mode?

2004-02-26 Thread Han-Wen Nienhuys
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Consider that you have to find the \relative X specification > somewhere 400 lines above if you are reading 100 bar - piece of > music. This can be remedied with the new octave check functions: c=' ensures that this relative c will be c' -- Han-Wen Nienhuys |

Re: non-relative relative mode?

2004-02-26 Thread David Raleigh Arnold
On Thursday 26 February 2004 02:22, GoochRules! wrote: > Greetings, > > Is it proper to use \transcribe c c'' { ... } to convert the upper > staff for piano to an octave where not so many 's need to be > specified? I attempted to use \relative c'', but found that mode to > be much too unpredictable

Re: non-relative relative mode?

2004-02-26 Thread donald_j_axel
On Thu, 26 Feb 2004 17:57:19 -0500 David Raleigh Arnold <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > http://www.openguitar.com/files/octly.txt Ok - creative bid on another solution. I have considered formating piano and scores something like this: % { a | b c' d' b | c' d' e' c' | d' e' f2 | {

Re: non-relative relative mode?

2004-02-26 Thread Reuben Thomas
> I attempted to use \relative c'', but found that mode to be much too > unpredictable for my tastes. It's entirely predictable: if a note a up to a fourth from the previous one, you don't need a ' or a ,; otherwise, you need one (or more) comma or tick. What's the problem? -- http://www.mupsy

Re: non-relative relative mode?

2004-02-26 Thread Mats Bengtsson
I assume that you mean \transpose and nothing else. Of course, this is one good approach to avoid having to type all the ' and ,. However, I still recommend you to give the \relative another try. I think most people on this list agree that it's very convenient once you get used to it. The basic ide

non-relative relative mode?

2004-02-25 Thread GoochRules!
Greetings, Is it proper to use \transcribe c c'' { ... } to convert the upper staff for piano to an octave where not so many 's need to be specified? I attempted to use \relative c'', but found that mode to be much too unpredictable for my tastes. Is there another/better way to do this? --Ma

Re: relative mode quandary with example

2004-01-01 Thread chip
Paul Scott wrote: > How about interTwo = \notes\relative c' { r8 r16 fis fis4 r gis ais4 r8 ais gis4 ais } instead? Paul Scott Thanks, I tried it similarly before posting the original, but backwards - I put the relative in front of the notes and it didn't work. Cool,

Re: relative mode quandary with example

2004-01-01 Thread Hans Forbrich
chip wrote: > > I am using relative mode to enter notes, and have defined a variable to > hold a phrase, which contains one ' mark on the first note. When I call > that variable in the piece multiple times consequitively, it is raised > an octave each time because of the &

Re: relative mode quandary with example

2004-01-01 Thread Paul Scott
chip wrote: I am using relative mode to enter notes, and have defined a variable to hold a phrase, which contains one ' mark on the first note. When I call that variable in the piece multiple times consequitively, it is raised an octave each time because of the ' mark. I can't

relative mode quandary with example

2004-01-01 Thread chip
I am using relative mode to enter notes, and have defined a variable to hold a phrase, which contains one ' mark on the first note. When I call that variable in the piece multiple times consequitively, it is raised an octave each time because of the ' mark. I can't add a , to

Re: Relative mode

2003-10-26 Thread Mats Bengtsson
a4 a e e fis fis e2 d4 d cis cis b b a2 instead of (current relative mode): a4 a e' e fis fis e2 d4 d cis cis b b a2 or (current absolute mode): a,4 a, e e fis fis e2 d4 d cis cis b, b, a2, /Mats David Raleigh Arnold wrote: On Wednesday 22 October 2003 03:11 pm, Rune Zedeler wrote: I have

Re: Relative mode

2003-10-26 Thread Mats Bengtsson
However, you are certainly not alone, since a new octave check feature was added in version 2.0 of LilyPond, see http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.0/Documentation/user/out-www/lilypond/Octave-check.html It's nice, but it's only a control feature. I thought more of some kind of making entry more explic

Re: absolute mode was Relative mode

2003-10-26 Thread David Raleigh Arnold
"only greater than an > octave". What does your second "c" in the major scale mean? Is that > the low c or the high c? A human assumes that the second c is the > high c, but a computer needs some way to be told that. Relative mode > lets you input a scale as c d e f g

Re: Relative mode

2003-10-26 Thread David Raleigh Arnold
ick to enter and a more verbose syntax > that's easier to understand and remember. Making it available to people who would use it a lot would do no harm. I would be willing to insert a colon every measure if it were useful to me, but starting every measure with \octave? Forget it. \octav

Re: Relative mode

2003-10-26 Thread Erik Sandberg
> > Twinkle twinkle as > > a4 a e e fis fis e2 d4 d cis cis b b a2 > > instead of (current relative mode): > > a4 a e' e fis fis e2 d4 d cis cis b b a2 > > or (current absolute mode): > > a,4 a, e e fis fis e2 d4 d cis cis b, b, a2, > > > >

Re: absolute mode was Relative mode

2003-10-25 Thread Graham Percival
low c or the high c? A human assumes that the second c is the high c, but a computer needs some way to be told that. Relative mode lets you input a scale as c d e f g a b c and absolute mode lets you input the same scale as c d e f g a b c' > The point for me is that if I know the range o

Re: Relative mode, absolute pitch

2003-10-25 Thread David Raleigh Arnold
ntages of both, etc.. To quote: > > > > "So »c d e d c« and »c d' e' d, c,« would mean the same thing." > > I don't understand what you mean. > It is true that in "relativetwo" c d e d c and c d' e' d, c, mean the > same thing (namely the s

Re: Relative mode

2003-10-24 Thread Rune Zedeler
the same thing." I don't understand what you mean. It is true that in "relativetwo" c d e d c and c d' e' d, c, mean the same thing (namely the same as c d e d c in the old relative mode). But that doesn't matter. A \relativetwo statement or something could sel

Re: Relative mode

2003-10-24 Thread David Raleigh Arnold
On Friday 24 October 2003 03:11 am, Rune Zedeler wrote: > David Raleigh Arnold wrote: > > The proposed new relative mode has more typing than the present > > relative mode, yet it is no more readable, so it seems to me to > > have the disadvantages of both and the advantages o

Re: Relative mode

2003-10-24 Thread Rune Zedeler
David Raleigh Arnold wrote: The proposed new relative mode has more typing than the present relative mode, yet it is no more readable, so it seems to me to have the disadvantages of both and the advantages of neither. If you are referring to my proposal then it is not true for intervals less

Re: Relative mode

2003-10-23 Thread David Raleigh Arnold
On Thursday 23 October 2003 02:47 am, Aaron wrote: > Well just to add more fuel to the fire. > I am curious how all this will the ability to analyse lilypond > scores? That is the point. Relative mode makes note entry faster at the cost of making reading the source.ly more difficult. &

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