On 27.11.2007 (20:10), Trevor Bača wrote:
>
> Oh, Eyolf, what a gem. Thanks so much for the beautiful reference.
My pleasure. Honestly -- if you knew how rarely it happens that people ask
for these things... and then even enjoy the answer..! :)
eyolf
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On 27 Nov 2007, at 22:05, Adam James Wilson wrote:
Yes, these time sigtanatures are ridiculous -- but they are needed to
produce the visual I'm after. I'm notating an electronic part; I have
four performers playing at 4 different tempi, and the electronic part
plays groups of four artiuclations
On Nov 27, 2007 8:44 PM, Trevor Bača <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Nov 27, 2007 1:02 PM, Kieren MacMillan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi Libero,
> >
> > > wikipedia article call those time sigs as "irrational" meters:
> >
> > It's unfortunate (IMO) that such a (mathematical) misnomer has
On 27 Nov 2007, at 22:05, Adam James Wilson wrote:
But I still don't understand Valentin -- you're telling me you can't
tap out rhythms in 2667/25276 time? :)
I think that if the 1/4 has a reasonable tempo, say 1/4 = 120, then
the shortest discernible time values will be around 1/128, and th
> > Charming system, but not very practical...
>
> Oh, Eyolf, what a gem. Thanks so much for the beautiful reference.
>
> And, yes: not very practical, but how fascinating ...
Practicality is overrated.
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On Nov 27, 2007 2:48 PM, Eyolf Østrem <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 27.11.2007 (13:44), Trevor Bača wrote:
> > I wish I knew enough about Medieval music (or Medieval music theory
> anyway)
> > to know if the Medieval invetors of "duplum" and "triplum" and
> "perfectus"
> > and "imperfectus" and
On 27 Nov 2007, at 22:05, Vivian Barty-Taylor wrote:
On the subject of time signatures with a denominator-base other
than two, Henry Cowell in his book "New Musical Resources" proposes
a notation system with different shaped note-heads to represent
different base-lengths. This should be qui
It is nice to see everyone is so interested in my "strange" fractions
-- it is great that these are possible in lilypond.
However, I'm still not sure what is breaking my code.
Possibilities are:
1. I'm making some syntactical mistake.
2. I made a math error someplace.
3. There's a real bug.
Unf
On the subject of time signatures with a denominator-base other than
two, Henry Cowell in his book "New Musical Resources" proposes a
notation system with different shaped note-heads to represent
different base-lengths. This should be quite easy to implement in
Lilypond. Might see if I can
Yes, these time sigtanatures are ridiculous -- but they are needed to
produce the visual I'm after. I'm notating an electronic part; I have
four performers playing at 4 different tempi, and the electronic part
plays groups of four artiuclations, each quantized to a beat in a
different tempo -- hen
On 27.11.2007 (21:48), Eyolf Oestrem wrote:
> subsuperpartiens: same as the former, only upside down:
> supersexcupartiensseptima=7:13
That should of course have been SUBsupersexcupartiensseptima... how stupid of
me...
Eyolf
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On 27.11.2007 (13:44), Trevor Bača wrote:
> I wish I knew enough about Medieval music (or Medieval music theory anyway)
> to know if the Medieval invetors of "duplum" and "triplum" and "perfectus"
> and "imperfectus" and the like ever touched on the topic ... they'd make a
> good source to steal fr
On 27 Nov 2007, at 19:15, Damian Legassick wrote:
i can't immediately see how you'd play 3599/11748 but i'd be
surprised if the math that got you there was so hard.
The question is where the metric accents are. There are three
different possibilities already for 9 = 4+2+3. I think the beami
On 27 Nov 2007, at 19:06, Trevor Bača wrote:
> If anybody has a good name for these meters, I would love to steal.
n-ary meters? [...he offered, only half-jokingly...]
Which would conflict with the senses of "binary" and "ternary"
meters referring to the (sub)divisions of the *numerators* of
On Nov 27, 2007 1:02 PM, Kieren MacMillan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> Hi Libero,
>
> > wikipedia article call those time sigs as "irrational" meters:
>
> It's unfortunate (IMO) that such a (mathematical) misnomer has become
> accepted...
Agreed.
I think Ferneyhough uses the term only with relu
Trevor:
So what would be "anything-other-than-(power-of)-2-plex"? ;-)
"non-duplex"?
Better yet, the partially-punny contraction: "nuplex"! =)
Kieren.
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On Nov 27, 2007 1:06 PM, Kieren MacMillan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> Hi Trevor,
>
> > Which would conflict with the senses of "binary" and "ternary"
>
> Good point.
>
> > How to draw attention to the *denominator*?
>
> How about "n-rational" or "n-plex" meters?
> So powers of two would be "2-ple
Hi Trevor,
Which would conflict with the senses of "binary" and "ternary"
Good point.
How to draw attention to the *denominator*?
How about "n-rational" or "n-plex" meters?
So powers of two would be "2-plex" (or "duplex") meters, powers of
three would be "3-plex" (triplex), etc.
??
Ch
Hi Libero,
wikipedia article call those time sigs as "irrational" meters:
It's unfortunate (IMO) that such a (mathematical) misnomer has become
accepted...
Cheers,
Kieren.
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Hi Trevor
wikipedia article call those time sigs as "irrational" meters:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_signature
further investigation showed that Ferneyhough himself calls them
"irrational", so, probably, this is a quite good definition:
http://www.sospeso.com/contents/articles/ferneyhough_p1.
still ot
i was a founder member of british new music group 'icebreaker' - we
often perform scores with times signatures like 4/6 or 5/12 (four
triplet quarter notes to the bar or 5 eigth-note triplets). earlier,
boulez in le marteau would write time sigs like 'two and two thirds
over 4'
On Nov 27, 2007 12:00 PM, Kieren MacMillan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> Hi, Trevor:
>
> > What frustrates me is that there's appearantly no *name* for the
> > class of time signatures
> > of the form m/n where n is *not* an integer power of 2.
>
> Fascinating observation! =)
>
> > If anybody has
Hi, Trevor:
What frustrates me is that there's appearantly no *name* for the
class of time signatures
of the form m/n where n is *not* an integer power of 2.
Fascinating observation! =)
If anybody has a good name for these meters, I would love to steal.
n-ary meters? [...he offered, onl
On Nov 27, 2007 7:31 AM, Ed Ardzinski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I did some playing last night and was surprised that you can have any
> denominator for a time signature, so my initial idea is wrong...not that I
> really understand what 5/9 time would really mean, but obviously LP
> interprets
sigs like 13/16.
Have to admit the error message text is cute.
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> Subject: hang -
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Is 11748 a legit denominator for a time signature? 2, 4, 8, 16, 32, 64, 128,
256, 512, 1024, 2048, 4096, 8192, 16384...I am a pretty basic writer, so I've
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2007/11/26, Adam James Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Hi all,
>
> I'm using some complicated time signatures, like 3599/11748 followed
> by 2667/25276 followed by 177/568, etc. (I have a good reason for this).
Just out of curiosity... How good can any reason be?
:-)
Valentin
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> spring distance requested"> > Hi all,> > I'm using some complicated time
> signatures, like 3599/11748 followed> by 2667/25276 fol
Hi all,
I'm using some complicated time signatures, like 3599/11748 followed
by 2667/25276 followed by 177/568, etc. (I have a good reason for this).
They render nicely for nearly ten pages or so of music, and then
suddenly adding an additional "strange" time signature causes two
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