Re: Control beaming with tuplets

2024-05-24 Thread Kenneth Flak
Perfect, thanks a lot! Best, Kenneth Xavier Scheuer, May 24, 2024 at 12:41: > On Fri, 24 May 2024 at 10:57, Kenneth Flak > <[1]kennethf...@protonmail.com> > wrote: > > > > Thanks! That almost did the trick. The only thing that's not working is that > connecting beam between the two quintuplets.

Re: Control beaming with tuplets

2024-05-24 Thread Xavier Scheuer
On Fri, 24 May 2024 at 10:57, Kenneth Flak wrote: > > Thanks! That almost did the trick. The only thing that's not working is that connecting beam between the two quintuplets. See attached screenshot... Hello, \set subdivideBeams = ##t And then either, for 2.24: \set baseMoment =

Re: Control beaming with tuplets

2024-05-24 Thread Kenneth Flak
gt; > > Hi, > > > > I'm trying to replicate the notation in originalHarp.png for harp with > > 5-tuplets, but the beaming I am getting is completely off... My attempt is > > in the file myAttempt.png, using this code: > > > > right = { > > \relative

Re: Control beaming with tuplets

2024-05-24 Thread Damian leGassick
\tuplet 5/4 ? D > On 24 May 2024, at 09:44, Kenneth Flak wrote: > > Hi, > > I'm trying to replicate the notation in originalHarp.png for harp with > 5-tuplets, but the beaming I am getting is completely off... My attempt is in > the file myAttempt.png, using

Control beaming with tuplets

2024-05-24 Thread Kenneth Flak
Hi, I'm trying to replicate the notation in originalHarp.png for harp with 5-tuplets, but the beaming I am getting is completely off... My attempt is in the file myAttempt.png, using this code: right = { \relative c'{ s4 \tuplet 5/2 {c32 e g bf df} \tuplet 5/2 {c32 e g bf df} c16

Re: Vertical Spacing with Tuplets and Lyrics

2023-06-21 Thread Lib Lists
why LilyPond ends up placing more systems on the > page than is reasonable in this code. This usually isn't a problem since > scores are usually not made of continuous tuplets (if there are tuplets > across all the score, you would customarily omit them after writing out the > first few).

Re: Vertical Spacing with Tuplets and Lyrics

2023-06-20 Thread Jean Abou Samra
isn't a problem since scores are usually not made of continuous tuplets (if there are tuplets across all the score, you would customarily omit them after writing out the first few). Like most things, you can always customize those estimates: ``` \version "2.24.1" CyBars = \drummo

Re: Vertical Spacing with Tuplets and Lyrics

2023-06-20 Thread Stu McKenzie
On Tue, 20 Jun 2023 at 22:18, Mogens Lemvig Hansen wrote: It struck we as weird to put the lyrics inside the DrumStaff, so I tried something closer to what I would have done for a choir: \score { << \new DrumStaff << \new DrumVoice { \voiceOne \CyBars } \new

Re: Vertical Spacing with Tuplets and Lyrics

2023-06-20 Thread Lib Lists
Maybe even better than writing explicitly the number of systems per page, \paper { page-breaking-system-system-spacing.padding = 2 } (https://lilypond.org/doc/v2.25/Documentation/notation/paper-variables-for-page-breaking) seems to work. On Tue, 20 Jun 2023 at 23:44, Lib Lists wrote: > > On Tue,

Re: Vertical Spacing with Tuplets and Lyrics

2023-06-20 Thread Lib Lists
On Tue, 20 Jun 2023 at 22:18, Mogens Lemvig Hansen wrote: > > It struck we as weird to put the lyrics inside the DrumStaff, so I tried > something closer to what I would have done for a choir: > > \score { > > << > > \new DrumStaff << > > \new DrumVoice { \voiceOne \CyBars } > >

RE: Vertical Spacing with Tuplets and Lyrics

2023-06-20 Thread Mogens Lemvig Hansen
ew Lyrics { \PrOne } >> } Looks better to my eye. Regards, Mogens Sent from Mail for Windows From: Stu McKenzie Sent: June 20, 2023 9:46 AM To: LilyPond User List Subject: Vertical Spacing with Tuplets and Lyrics I have a drums score that includes tuplets in both voiceOne (cymbals) and voic

Vertical Spacing with Tuplets and Lyrics

2023-06-20 Thread Stu McKenzie
I have a drums score that includes tuplets in both voiceOne (cymbals) and voiceTwo (drums), and lyrics for some bars. I'm trying to adjust the vertical spacing so that the lyrics don't clash with the tuplet brackets. The tiny example below contains an example of the combinations

Re: incomplete tuplets

2021-07-31 Thread David Zelinsky
Aaron Hill writes: > On 2021-07-31 2:44 pm, David Zelinsky wrote: >> The suggested notation for this was to use a quintuplet bracket that >> was >> open on the right, and extended slightly beyond the second notehead, or >> beyond the beam. See attached. >> >> Is there a sensible way to do that

Re: incomplete tuplets

2021-07-31 Thread Aaron Hill
On 2021-07-31 2:44 pm, David Zelinsky wrote: The suggested notation for this was to use a quintuplet bracket that was open on the right, and extended slightly beyond the second notehead, or beyond the beam. See attached. Is there a sensible way to do that in Lilypond? I've searched around

incomplete tuplets

2021-07-31 Thread David Zelinsky
Recently there was a discussion on the Music Engraving Tips facebook group involving a non-dyadic time signature, that required notating a *pair* of quintuplet 16th notes, without the rest of the quintuplet. It's not that there were rests for the other three. The measure just ended after the

RE: Beaming in nested tuplets

2021-05-30 Thread Mark Stephen Mrotek
t' Subject: Beaming in nested tuplets Hi, all. Can someone tell me how to break the beaming on tuplet nesting? Here is a snippet from "The Black Page" and I'd like to break the default beam connecting the three nested tuplets. Thanks .. mark. --- \version "2.22" tu

Beaming in nested tuplets

2021-05-30 Thread Mark Probert
Hi, all. Can someone tell me how to break the beaming on tuplet nesting? Here is a snippet from "The Black Page" and I'd like to break the default beam connecting the three nested tuplets. Thanks .. mark. --- \version "2.22" tune = \relative c'' { \clef treble

Re: Tuplets and line break confusion

2021-04-24 Thread Lukas-Fabian Moser
Hi, Am 24.04.21 um 13:01 schrieb Николай Аничков: Hello! I am faced with the problem of displaying some rhythms. For example, the third and seventh measures look different, although they are simply copied. The line break is not displayed at all and furthermore it destroys the league between

Tuplets and line break confusion

2021-04-24 Thread Николай Аничков
Hello! I am faced with the problem of displaying some rhythms. For example, the third and seventh measures look different, although they are simply copied. The line break is not displayed at all and furthermore it destroys the league between the fourth and fifth bars. -- С уважением, Николай

Re: Suggestion: Use non powers of 2 for tuplets

2021-03-27 Thread Christian Masser
stand > > that there's a difference between "c4. c4." and "\tuplet 2/3 { c4 c4 > > }" ). > > > > The major problem behind the concept of single tuplet-parts like "c6" - > or > > in the syntax we have right now: "\times 2/3 { c4 }" - is, that ou

Re: Suggestion: Use non powers of 2 for tuplets

2021-03-26 Thread Carl Sorensen
t grouping by beat structure is pretty much what you want. In the worst case one can simply group the notes manually, which is still much faster than doing lots of different tuplets and hiding the Brackets (if you do a piece that frequently changes between division 2 and

Re: Suggestion: Use non powers of 2 for tuplets

2021-03-26 Thread David Kastrup
e many cases where the default grouping by beat > structure is pretty much what you want. In the worst case one can > simply group the notes manually, which is still much faster than doing > lots of different tuplets and hiding the Brackets (if you do a piece > that frequently changes bet

Re: Suggestion: Use non powers of 2 for tuplets

2021-03-26 Thread Valentin Petzel
. And there are many cases where the default grouping by beat structure is pretty much what you want. In the worst case one can simply group the notes manually, which is still much faster than doing lots of different tuplets and hiding the Brackets (if you do a piece that frequently changes between

Re: Suggestion: Use non powers of 2 for tuplets

2021-03-26 Thread David Kastrup
tuplet-parts like "c6" - or > in the syntax we have right now: "\times 2/3 { c4 }" - is, that our western > music has no common consensus of how to write unfinished tuplets. The way > I've seen these written was with a "unfinished" bracket above it. (So the &

Re: Suggestion: Use non powers of 2 for tuplets

2021-03-26 Thread Christian Masser
let 2/3 { c4 c4 }" ). The major problem behind the concept of single tuplet-parts like "c6" - or in the syntax we have right now: "\times 2/3 { c4 }" - is, that our western music has no common consensus of how to write unfinished tuplets. The way I've seen these written was w

Re: Suggestion: Use non powers of 2 for tuplets

2021-03-26 Thread Martinrinconbotero
> Things like these should be easy in Lilypond, considering it's sheer > flexibility and hackability. And if I were a composer writing in 5/6, > i would probably be happy if I could just write "c2 d6 e6 |". Except when it wouldn’t be easy to notate

Re: Suggestion: Use non powers of 2 for tuplets

2021-03-26 Thread David Kastrup
Christian Masser writes: > Just adding my two cents to this debate. In my humble opinion it's pretty > clear what "12" in this context means as Lilypond's syntax is always about > the divisor. c4 is always a quarter of a whole note. Therefore c12 would > always be a twelth of a whole note, thus

Re: Suggestion: Use non powers of 2 for tuplets

2021-03-26 Thread Christian Masser
Just adding my two cents to this debate. In my humble opinion it's pretty clear what "12" in this context means as Lilypond's syntax is always about the divisor. c4 is always a quarter of a whole note. Therefore c12 would always be a twelth of a whole note, thus a third of a quarter note. And c7

Re: Suggestion: Use non powers of 2 for tuplets

2021-03-26 Thread David Kastrup
Kevin Barry writes: > I think the convenience of this feature does not justify the added > complexity. It's mostly the conceptual vagueness that is the problem here. There are no actual note values corresponding graphically to the input in an unambiguous manner, so LilyPond would need to do

Re: Suggestion: Use non powers of 2 for tuplets

2021-03-26 Thread Kevin Barry
I think the convenience of this feature does not justify the added complexity. Kevin

Re: Suggestion: Use non powers of 2 for tuplets

2021-03-26 Thread Jean Abou Samra
proposal does not map to notation since tuplets also involve choices of beaming and division. There's a lot of music that contains tuplets (mainly triplets) without tuplet numbers.  Such a notation would simplify things. I actually fail to see this as a compelling use case. This was an accidentally

Re: Suggestion: Use non powers of 2 for tuplets

2021-03-26 Thread Jean Abou Samra
Le 26/03/2021 à 12:43, Werner LEMBERG a écrit : For example: We could use 3 for 2*3/2, 5 for 4*5/4, 6 for 4*3/2, 7 for 8*7/8, 9 for 8*9/8, 10 for 8*5/4, 11 for 8*11/8, 12 for 8*3/2 and so on. LilyPond is a notation program first, and your proposal does not map to notation since tuplets also

Re: Suggestion: Use non powers of 2 for tuplets

2021-03-26 Thread Jean Abou Samra
and so on. LilyPond is a notation program first, and your proposal does not map to notation since tuplets also involve choices of beaming and division. There's a lot of music that contains tuplets (mainly triplets) without tuplet numbers. Such a notation would simplify things. In my experience

Re: Suggestion: Use non powers of 2 for tuplets

2021-03-26 Thread David Kastrup
Werner LEMBERG writes: >>> For example: We could use 3 for 2*3/2, 5 for 4*5/4, 6 for 4*3/2, 7 >>> for 8*7/8, 9 for 8*9/8, 10 for 8*5/4, 11 for 8*11/8, 12 for 8*3/2 >>> and so on. >> >> LilyPond is a notation program first, and your proposal does not map &g

Re: Suggestion: Use non powers of 2 for tuplets

2021-03-26 Thread Werner LEMBERG
>> For example: We could use 3 for 2*3/2, 5 for 4*5/4, 6 for 4*3/2, 7 >> for 8*7/8, 9 for 8*9/8, 10 for 8*5/4, 11 for 8*11/8, 12 for 8*3/2 >> and so on. > > LilyPond is a notation program first, and your proposal does not map > to notation since tuplets also

Re: Suggestion: Use non powers of 2 for tuplets

2021-03-26 Thread David Kastrup
for 8*11/8, 12 for 8*3/2 and so > on. LilyPond is a notation program first, and your proposal does not map to notation since tuplets also involve choices of beaming and division. > This would be quite useful, especially for the divisions of three (*3/2), > because stuff like this >

Re: Suggestion: Use non powers of 2 for tuplets, Suggestion: Use non powers of 2 for tuplets

2021-03-26 Thread Valentin Petzel
Hello Werner, I just suggested these value as this seems to be what is commonly found with music (and it is rhythmically viable nontheless). Basically we’re rounding a division to the nearest power of 2 (it does not make a lot of sense to use 7 4th notes or something like 15 8th notes for such

Re: Suggestion: Use non powers of 2 for tuplets

2021-03-26 Thread ebenezer
Hello, Does \scaleDurations not already fit the bill? See the section "Scaling durations" at http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.22/Documentation/notation-big-page On 2021-03-26 02:19, Valentin Petzel wrote: Hello! Currently Lilypond only supports powers of 2 for specifying duration. Could we use

Re: Suggestion: Use non powers of 2 for tuplets,Suggestion: Use non powers of 2 for tuplets

2021-03-26 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> Currently Lilypond only supports powers of 2 for specifying > duration. Could we use the other numbers for common divisions? > > For example: We could use 3 for 2*3/2, 5 for 4*5/4, 6 for 4*3/2, 7 > for 8*7/8, 9 for 8*9/8, 10 for 8*5/4, 11 for 8*11/8, 12 for 8*3/2 > and so on. > > This would

Re: Suggestion: Use non powers of 2 for tuplets

2021-03-25 Thread Shane Brandes
You are on your own on that one. I think it just leads to the unpleasant chaos of having to look up what those mean in a table somewhere after you have forgotten why you put that into your score. -Shane On Thu, Mar 25, 2021 at 10:20 PM Valentin Petzel wrote: > Hello! > > Currently Lilypond

Suggestion: Use non powers of 2 for tuplets

2021-03-25 Thread Valentin Petzel
Hello! Currently Lilypond only supports powers of 2 for specifying duration. Could we use the other numbers for common divisions? For example: We could use 3 for 2*3/2, 5 for 4*5/4, 6 for 4*3/2, 7 for 8*7/8, 9 for 8*9/8, 10 for 8*5/4, 11 for 8*11/8, 12 for 8*3/2 and so on. This would be quite

Re: incomplete tuplets in non-standard time signatures

2020-12-02 Thread Michael Käppler
Am 02.12.2020 um 11:24 schrieb Michael Käppler: Am 02.12.2020 um 09:26 schrieb Michael Käppler: Am 30.11.2020 um 09:20 schrieb Michael Käppler: Am 30.11.2020 um 08:29 schrieb Lukas-Fabian Moser: Hi Michael, I just filed a bug report

Re: incomplete tuplets in non-standard time signatures

2020-12-02 Thread Michael Käppler
Am 02.12.2020 um 09:26 schrieb Michael Käppler: Am 30.11.2020 um 09:20 schrieb Michael Käppler: Am 30.11.2020 um 08:29 schrieb Lukas-Fabian Moser: Hi Michael, I just filed a bug report http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/Wrongly-read-property-with-MetronomeMark-td237659.html

Re: incomplete tuplets in non-standard time signatures

2020-12-02 Thread Michael Käppler
Am 30.11.2020 um 09:20 schrieb Michael Käppler: Am 30.11.2020 um 08:29 schrieb Lukas-Fabian Moser: Hi Michael, I just filed a bug report http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/Wrongly-read-property-with-MetronomeMark-td237659.html 2c2908c905ba822ef656b06b1cc4f0ca33960c9c is the first bad

Re: incomplete tuplets in non-standard time signatures

2020-11-30 Thread Michael Käppler
Am 30.11.2020 um 08:29 schrieb Lukas-Fabian Moser: Hi Michael, I just filed a bug report http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/Wrongly-read-property-with-MetronomeMark-td237659.html 2c2908c905ba822ef656b06b1cc4f0ca33960c9c is the first bad commit commit

Re: incomplete tuplets in non-standard time signatures

2020-11-29 Thread Lukas-Fabian Moser
Hi Michael, I just filed a bug report http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/Wrongly-read-property-with-MetronomeMark-td237659.html 2c2908c905ba822ef656b06b1cc4f0ca33960c9c is the first bad commit commit 2c2908c905ba822ef656b06b1cc4f0ca33960c9c Author: Malte Meyn Date:   Sun Sep 29

Re: incomplete tuplets in non-standard time signatures

2020-11-29 Thread Jonas Hahnfeld via LilyPond user discussion
Am Sonntag, dem 29.11.2020 um 22:24 +0100 schrieb Michael Käppler: > Am 29.11.2020 um 21:09 schrieb Lukas-Fabian Moser: > > Hi Harm, > Hi Harm and Lukas, > > > > > I just filed a bug report > > > http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/Wrongly-read-property-with-MetronomeMark-td237659.html > > > >

Re: incomplete tuplets in non-standard time signatures

2020-11-29 Thread Michael Käppler
Am 29.11.2020 um 21:09 schrieb Lukas-Fabian Moser: Hi Harm, Hi Harm and Lukas, I just filed a bug report http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/Wrongly-read-property-with-MetronomeMark-td237659.html 2c2908c905ba822ef656b06b1cc4f0ca33960c9c is the first bad commit commit

Re: incomplete tuplets in non-standard time signatures

2020-11-29 Thread Lukas-Fabian Moser
Hi Harm, I just filed a bug report http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/Wrongly-read-property-with-MetronomeMark-td237659.html 2c2908c905ba822ef656b06b1cc4f0ca33960c9c is the first bad commit commit 2c2908c905ba822ef656b06b1cc4f0ca33960c9c Author: Malte Meyn Date:   Sun Sep 29 10:10:35 2019

Re: incomplete tuplets in non-standard time signatures

2020-11-29 Thread Thomas Morley
.21.6, if a /tempo marking is included in any staff, I > observe that, for the first staff in the score, the custom stencil will > always engrave as a fully dashed instead of half-dashed tuplet (and no matter > where the /tempo statement occurs, all tuplets in that first staff are >

Re: incomplete tuplets in non-standard time signatures

2020-11-27 Thread 98123981293 1293812397123
, the custom stencil will *always* engrave as a fully dashed instead of half-dashed tuplet (and no matter where the /tempo statement occurs, all tuplets in that first staff are affected). Half-dashed tuplet stencils engrave as expected in all other staves regardless of any /tempo statements. Can anyone

Re: incomplete tuplets in non-standard time signatures

2020-04-06 Thread Thomas Morley
Am So., 5. Apr. 2020 um 19:59 Uhr schrieb 98123981293 1293812397123 : > > Dear list, > > In the following example, I would like to: > 1) In the first voice: make the tuplet line to the right of the number into a > dashed straight line. > 2) In the second voice: fix the appearance of the last

incomplete tuplets in non-standard time signatures

2020-04-05 Thread 98123981293 1293812397123
\version "2.18.2" \header { subsubtitle = "incomplete tuplets in non-standard time sigs" } \score { << \new Staff { \clef treble \key c \major \set subdivideBeams = ##t \set strictBeatBeaming = ##t \override TupletBracket.bracket-visibility = ##t \time 8/24

Re: Tuplets up and down at the same musical moment

2019-10-16 Thread Kieren MacMillan
Hi Andrew, > Any clues what greater context could be affecting this? Could it be the same problem as in this thread ? Just a thought. Kieren. Kieren MacMillan, composer (he/him/his) ‣

Re: Tuplets up and down at the same musical moment

2019-10-16 Thread Andrew Bernard
Any clues what greater context could be affecting this? Andrew On Wed, 16 Oct 2019 at 22:18, Andrew Bernard wrote: > Pardon this somewhat strange question. The following MWE showing how to > tweak tuplet brackets up and down at the same musical moment works > perfectly fine (!). But in the

Tuplets up and down at the same musical moment

2019-10-16 Thread Andrew Bernard
because it only occurs in the full score. What would cause something like this to fail? [A bug? My stupidity? I don't know.] Using 2.19.83. % \version "2.19.83" % tuplets up and down at same musical moment treble = { \time 1/4 \override TupletBracket.bracket-visibility = ##t

Re: Nested tuplet across tuplets

2019-09-22 Thread damianlegassick via lilypond-user
Hi AndrewBy making it only a *little* more fiddly and tedious I can get pretty close.I feel your pain...Damian\version "2.19.83"\header {  tagline = "" }{  \time 1/8  \clef bass  \override Score.TupletBracket.bracket-visibility = ##t  <<    {      \once \omit TupletNumber      \once \omit

Re: Nested tuplet across tuplets

2019-09-22 Thread damianlegassick via lilypond-user
The rhythm itself is easy to play in isolation but it looks from this snippet as if it would be very difficult to judge the speed so as to coordinate with the other players. Damian On 22 September 2019 at 15:41, Michael Gerdau wrote: 10 quintuplet 32nds are grouped 3, 5:4, 3

Re:  Nested tuplet across tuplets

2019-09-22 Thread Michael Gerdau
> 10 quintuplet 32nds are grouped 3, 5:4, 3 Aha...I see. This triggers the next curiosity question: Are conductors or human musicians supposed to count that out or is that purely for machine reproduction? Again I’m only curious. Kind regards, Michael

Re: Nested tuplet across tuplets

2019-09-22 Thread damianlegassick via lilypond-user
to an impasse in a score I am setting. Is it even remotely possible to have a tuplet nested _across_ two tuplets with lilypond? See attached image. [Don't blame me for the musical aspect of this - it's not my music!] Andrew ___ lilypond-user mailing list

Re: Nested tuplet across tuplets

2019-09-22 Thread Thomas Morley
Am So., 22. Sept. 2019 um 01:22 Uhr schrieb Andrew Bernard : > > I have come to an impasse in a score I am setting. Is it even remotely > possible to have a tuplet nested _across_ two tuplets with lilypond? See > attached image. > > [Don't blame me for the musical aspect of

Re: Nested tuplet across tuplets

2019-09-22 Thread Michael Gerdau
. Could you explain the meaning of the additional tuplet bracket? Just curious, Michael Mobil gesendet > Am 22.09.2019 um 01:21 schrieb Andrew Bernard : > > I have come to an impasse in a score I am setting. Is it even remotely > possible to have a tuplet nested _across_ two tuplets w

Re: Nested tuplet across tuplets

2019-09-22 Thread Andrew Bernard
Hello Damian, Thanks for your effort. But look here: \version "2.19.83" { \override Score.TupletBracket.bracket-visibility = ##t << { \time 1/8 % \once \omit TupletNumber \tuplet 5/4 { s32 s s \tuplet 5/4 { \stemDown g'32[ 32

RE: Nested tuplet across tuplets

2019-09-21 Thread Mark Stephen Mrotek
Andrew, Nested tuplets are presented at http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.19/Documentation/notation/writing-rhythms#tuplets Scroll down to the fourth example. Mark -Original Message- From: lilypond-user [mailto:lilypond-user-bounces+carsonmark=ca.rr@gnu.org] On Behalf Of Andrew Bernard

Re: Nested tuplet across tuplets (Andrew Bernard)

2019-09-21 Thread Andrew Bernard
Hi Karim, It's 15/8. but he uses beat markers not barlines, so each span bar is one quaver. I am sorry to say this is one voice. I don't even know how to fake it using another voice. [How people are expected to play this precisely is another matter!] Andrew On 22/9/19 10:35 am, Karim

Re: Nested tuplet across tuplets (Andrew Bernard)

2019-09-21 Thread Karim Haddad
badly scripted. It appears that there is a 16th note shift Between voices (???) I will not ask you who had manuscript it ..! :-) Best K On Sat, Sep 21, 2019 at 07:21:13PM -0400, lilypond-user-requ...@gnu.org wrote: > Today's Topics: > >1. Nested tuplet across tuplets (Andre

Nested tuplet across tuplets

2019-09-21 Thread Andrew Bernard
I have come to an impasse in a score I am setting. Is it even remotely possible to have a tuplet nested _across_ two tuplets with lilypond? See attached image. [Don't blame me for the musical aspect of this - it's not my music!] Andrew

"as fast as possible" pseudo-tuplets

2018-12-30 Thread N. Andrew Walsh
Hi List, I'm working on a realization of Stockhausen's "Plus Minus", and one of its frequent features is the instruction to play a group of notes "as fast as possible". In contemporary music notation there is a common practice of notating rapid passages with a single slashed beam and irregular

Re: Tuplets in Metric Modulations

2018-12-21 Thread Saul Tobin
Notice that in my example I included spacer rests in the tuplet. This allow room for the bracket. On Fri, Dec 21, 2018 at 2:47 PM Ld2020 wrote: > Thank you - this is extremely helpful. > > One issue I am still trying to solve: how to get tuplet brackets to > appear as part of the metronome

Re: Tuplets in Metric Modulations

2018-12-21 Thread Ld2020
Thank you - this is extremely helpful. One issue I am still trying to solve: how to get tuplet brackets to appear as part of the metronome mark. I.E. triplet eighth = eighth (triplet under the tuplet bracket with the 3.) Right now I'm doing: \rhythmMark "" {\tuplet 3/2 {b'8}} {b'8} I get the

Re: Tuplets in Metric Modulations

2018-12-20 Thread Saul Tobin
I've attached the snippet I use for metric modulation markings. Hopefully others find it useful. To use it you would write something like: \metricMark { \tuplet 3/2 { r8*2 c8 } } { c16 r16*3 } "Più tranquillo" #108 FYI – there are some issues with spacing if the marking is at a line break. On

Re: Tuplets in Metric Modulations

2018-12-20 Thread Ben
On 12/20/2018 2:27 PM, Ld2020 wrote: I am notating some rhythms that use metric modulations (a.k.a. tempo modulations). I am indicating that a triplet quarter becomes the new quarter note. What I want is a single quarter note with a triplet mark over it (3 and a bracket, spaced in such a way as

Tuplets in Metric Modulations

2018-12-20 Thread Ld2020
I am notating some rhythms that use metric modulations (a.k.a. tempo modulations). I am indicating that a triplet quarter becomes the new quarter note. What I want is a single quarter note with a triplet mark over it (3 and a bracket, spaced in such a way as to make it obvious this is one third

Re: beaming in tuplets

2018-04-14 Thread David Kastrup
Noeck writes: > Am 12.04.2018 um 22:48 schrieb Urs Liska: >> Additionally remove the tuplet bracket >> >>   \omit TupletBracket > > Or, if you want to keep them in case there is no beam (for quavers etc.): > > \override TupletBracket.bracket-visibility = #'if-no-beam > >

Re: beaming in tuplets

2018-04-14 Thread Noeck
Am 12.04.2018 um 22:48 schrieb Urs Liska: > Additionally remove the tuplet bracket > >   \omit TupletBracket Or, if you want to keep them in case there is no beam (for quavers etc.): \override TupletBracket.bracket-visibility = #'if-no-beam Joram PS: Why is it "bracket-visibility" and not

Re: beaming in tuplets

2018-04-13 Thread David Kastrup
Urs Liska <li...@openlilylib.org> writes: > Am 12.04.2018 um 20:45 schrieb Mark Stephen Mrotek: >> >> Marco, >> >> Got the 3’s on each group – see attached. >> > > Finally you can tell LilyPond to automatically group consecutive tuplets: > >

Re: beaming in tuplets

2018-04-12 Thread Marco Bagolin
amlets you can set beam subdivisions: > > \set subdivideBeams = ##t > \set baseMoment = #(ly:make-moment 1 8) > > and remove the manual beams. > > Additionally remove the tuplet bracket > > \omit TupletBracket > > Finally you can tell LilyPond to automatically g

Re: beaming in tuplets

2018-04-12 Thread Urs Liska
remove the tuplet bracket   \omit TupletBracket Finally you can tell LilyPond to automatically group consecutive tuplets:   \set tupletSpannerDuration = #(ly:make-moment 1 8) which removes the need to explicitly write so many \tuplet {} expressions. The full file now reads: \version "2

beaming in tuplets

2018-04-12 Thread Mark Stephen Mrotek
Marco, Got the 3's on each group - see attached. Mark \version "2.19.80" \relative c { \clef bass \time 4/4 \key bes \major r8 \tuplet 3/2 8 {f16 \upbow -\markup { \line {\concat { \dynamic p } \italic { accel. e cresc. }}} f f ges16 ges16

Re: automatic beaming of tuplets only - is this possible ?

2017-11-21 Thread David Kastrup
"Christopher R. Maden" writes: > On 11/21/2017 09:57 AM, David Kastrup wrote: >> "The repos" for what distribution? 2.18.0 was released in December >> 2013. What repos carry software that has been replaced 4 years ago? > > Distros released 4 years ago, like Ubuntu 14.04 LTS

Re: automatic beaming of tuplets only - is this possible ?

2017-11-21 Thread Christopher R. Maden
On 11/21/2017 09:57 AM, David Kastrup wrote: "The repos" for what distribution? 2.18.0 was released in December 2013. What repos carry software that has been replaced 4 years ago? Distros released 4 years ago, like Ubuntu 14.04 LTS (Trusty, supported through April 2019) and its derivatives,

Re: automatic beaming of tuplets only - is this possible ?

2017-11-21 Thread David Kastrup
Eby Mani writes: > Many thanks Urs. > > 2.16.2 is what is available on the repos, thus sticking to. "The repos" for what distribution? 2.18.0 was released in December 2013. What repos carry software that has been replaced 4 years ago? -- David Kastrup

Re: automatic beaming of tuplets only - is this possible ?

2017-11-21 Thread Ben
On 11/21/2017 9:26 AM, Eby Mani wrote: Many thanks Urs. 2.16.2 is what is available on the repos, thus sticking to. Eby On Tue, 21/11/17, Urs Liska wrote: >I'm on lilypond 2.16.2 on ubuntu This is *really* outdated.

Re: automatic beaming of tuplets only - is this possible ?

2017-11-21 Thread Eby Mani
Hi Ben, is there a similar snippet available for ly 2.16. ?. Thanks. On Tue, 21/11/17, Ben <soundsfromso...@gmail.com> wrote: Subject: Re: automatic beaming of tuplets only - is this possible ? To: lilypond-user@gnu.org Date: Tuesday, 21 No

Re: automatic beaming of tuplets only - is this possible ?

2017-11-21 Thread Eby Mani
Many thanks Urs. 2.16.2 is what is available on the repos, thus sticking to. Eby On Tue, 21/11/17, Urs Liska <li...@ursliska.de> wrote: Subject: Re: automatic beaming of tuplets only - is this possible ? To: "Eby Mani" <eby...@y

Re: automatic beaming of tuplets only - is this possible ?

2017-11-21 Thread Ben
-user Eby, Does this help you? This code makes the bracket in tuplets into a curved slur. http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/Tuplets-curved-brackets-td207326.html (image) http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/attachment/207328/0/curved.png tupletBracketToSlur = {   % Use slur

Re: automatic beaming of tuplets only - is this possible ?

2017-11-20 Thread Urs Liska
ket with a slur. > >2, Automatically break beaming of tuplets of value 16. If no tuplet, >then the beaming should default. >e.g. by default lilypond beams tuplets {c16 d e} and f8 together. What >i want is the f8 should not be beamed together with tuplet. And if >there is { c16 d32 e f16 } in

Re: Tuplets curved brackets?

2017-11-14 Thread Jacques Menu Muzhic
Hello David, \single it not the solution, but \temporary…\undo is. Thanks for your help! JM > Le 14 nov. 2017 à 13:42, David Kastrup a écrit : > > Jacques Menu Muzhic writes: > >> Hello Ben, >> >> How can one undo the effect of tupletBracketToSlur to

Re: Tuplets curved brackets?

2017-11-14 Thread SoundsFromSound
Andrew Bernard wrote > Hi Ben, > > Would you consider adding this to openlilylib? I am happy to help out with > that if needed. This is too excellent to be lost in the mailing list > archives forever. > > Andrew > > ___ > lilypond-user mailing list >

Re: Tuplets curved brackets?

2017-11-14 Thread Andrew Bernard
Hi Ben, Would you consider adding this to openlilylib? I am happy to help out with that if needed. This is too excellent to be lost in the mailing list archives forever. Andrew ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org

Re: Tuplets curved brackets?

2017-11-14 Thread David Kastrup
Jacques Menu Muzhic writes: > Hello Ben, > > How can one undo the effect of tupletBracketToSlur to use it on a > per-tuplet basis? > Prefixing it with \once is not a solution I’ve seen. > > Below, I’d like the third triplet to use square brackets again: > > { > a a

Re: Tuplets curved brackets?

2017-11-14 Thread Werner LEMBERG
> How can one undo the effect of tupletBracketToSlur to use it on a > per-tuplet basis? Prefixing it with \once is not a solution I’ve > seen. Try `\single'. Werner ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org

Re: Tuplets curved brackets?

2017-11-14 Thread Jacques Menu Muzhic
Hello Ben, How can one undo the effect of tupletBracketToSlur to use it on a per-tuplet basis? Prefixing it with \once is not a solution I’ve seen. Below, I’d like the third triplet to use square brackets again: { a a \tuplet 3/2 { a8 a a } a4 | %! \tupletBracketToSlur % HERE OK a a

Re: Tuplets curved brackets?

2017-11-14 Thread Jacques Menu Muzhic
Hello Ben, Yes, that’s the solution I was looking for, thanks so much! JM > Le 14 nov. 2017 à 12:25, Ben <soundsfromso...@gmail.com> a écrit : > > On 11/14/2017 5:02 AM, Menu Jacques wrote: >> Hello folks, >> >> MusicXML has the notion of curved tuplets b

Re: Tuplets curved brackets?

2017-11-14 Thread Ben
On 11/14/2017 5:02 AM, Menu Jacques wrote: Hello folks, MusicXML has the notion of curved tuplets brackets: Didn’t find anything in the doc nor snippets. How can that be achieved with LilyPond? Thanks for your help! JM Hi, Is this what you mean? (see attached) Also, what

Tuplets curved brackets?

2017-11-14 Thread Menu Jacques
Hello folks, MusicXML has the notion of curved tuplets brackets: Didn’t find anything in the doc nor snippets. How can that be achieved with LilyPond? Thanks for your help! JM ___ lilypond-user mailing list lilypond-user@gnu.org

Re: non-triplet tuplets collide with staff

2017-10-29 Thread Mason Hock
ether a Beam is present or not, presence of other maybe colliding objects etc. Has nothing to do if being a triplet or anything else. Btw, what you call collisions is common practice in printed editions. I would like all tuplets outside of the staff like triplets. If I do both \override Staff.

Re: non-triplet tuplets collide with staff

2017-10-29 Thread Thomas Morley
being a triplet or anything else. Btw, what you call collisions is common practice in printed editions. > I would like all tuplets outside of the staff like > triplets. > If I do both > > \override Staff.TupletNumber #'outside-staff-priority = #1 > \override Staff.TupletBrac

Re: non-triplet tuplets collide with staff

2017-10-28 Thread Ben
On 10/28/2017 5:38 PM, Mason Hock wrote: Lilypond by default seems to place all tuplet numbers/brackets so that they collide with the staff, with the exception of triplets, which it places outside the staff. I would like all tuplets outside of the staff like triplets. /\override

non-triplet tuplets collide with staff

2017-10-28 Thread Mason Hock
Lilypond by default seems to place all tuplet numbers/brackets so that they collide with the staff, with the exception of triplets, which it places outside the staff. I would like all tuplets outside of the staff like triplets. \override Staff.TupletNumber #'outside-staff-priority = #1 fixes

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