RE: lingo-l OT: Giving away your lingo

2001-08-23 Thread Pekka Buttler
IMHO, the question is quite a simple one. If you have a written (or oral) agreement which does not explicitly state that you should hand over the source code, you should not need to do so. If you have been hired to do a product, then the Product is what you need to hand over. Nothing else. Some

RE: lingo-l OT: Giving away your lingo

2001-08-23 Thread Karina Steffens
Give them the code. What are they going to do with it? 1. Hire some other dir developer who is equal to or beyond you in ability, and will likely just toss your code in the dumpster while replicating the functionality in his own style. 2. Is not as good of a coder, and will struggle to

RE: lingo-l OT: Giving away your lingo

2001-08-23 Thread Ian Johnson
Hi, thanks for the replies. Wow, such a divide. :) While I agree with Kurt's comments re: 'we constantly give away our lingo to the members on the list', lists are a pretty unique environment (IMHO), with the purpose of asking the community/like-minded individuals for help and putting something

Re: lingo-l OT: Giving away your lingo

2001-08-23 Thread Chris Aernoudt
code snippets. I bet our lives would be hell without this far-out cooperation... Give something, and get loads in return. - Original Message - From: Karina Steffens [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2001 10:53 AM Subject: RE: lingo-l OT: Giving away

RE: lingo-l OT: Giving away your lingo

2001-08-23 Thread grimmwerks
You know, I even go a step farther and comment out all of my code as to what each bit is doing. I've never had an issue where someone ripped apart my stuff so they could do it themselves -- although I was paid to train a few people in basics...I had no problem with that. Personally, I have

RE: lingo-l OT: Giving away your lingo

2001-08-23 Thread Ike Eisenhauer
Basically, I have done three things in the past: 1. Give the source code to them for 10x development cost (which was clearly stated in the contract prior) 2. Gave them the code but ran it through an obscufier first. This one was only when the client threatened a lawsuit because they failed to

RE: lingo-l OT: Giving away your lingo

2001-08-23 Thread Ike Eisenhauer
all contract and assume nothing and charge the clients if they want to see the code. Ike Eisenhauer -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2001 2:49 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: lingo-l OT

RE: lingo-l OT: Giving away your lingo

2001-08-23 Thread Leah O'Shell
it may be annoying, but if you are a subcontractor, you always have to hand over the code, ( i thought). even if you have a direct contact with someone, the debate is what you are selling, if you are selling the source with the finished product, you should draw a contract with this

RE: lingo-l OT: Giving away your lingo

2001-08-22 Thread Al Hospers
I'm interested to find out how everyone handles clients' requests for source files. this comes up here fairly frequently. some folks never give out source, some charge extra for it and some always give it to the client (after the final check is delivered cashed of courst). personally I have

Re: lingo-l OT: Giving away your lingo--DON'T DO IT !!!

2001-08-22 Thread Jason Spencer
NEVER GIVE AWAY YOUR SOURCE CODE THAT SMALL MEDIA DEPARTMENT TODAY WILL BECOME A BIG ONE TOMMORROW AND REUSE YOUR LINGO TEMPLATE AS BASIS FOR OTHER PROJECTS. YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO SELL THE CODE TO THEM, BUT REMEMBER THEY WILL STILL IT. I HAVE SEEN IT HAPPEN BEFORE AHEM! On 8/22/01 1:36 PM, Ian

Re: lingo-l OT: Giving away your lingo

2001-08-22 Thread Mike Rule
I lean towards the 'don't do it!' school of thought but I have done jobs where the client insisted on having access to the source code. One compromise that we came up with once was to put all the source code on a disc which was then held in trust by a mutually agreed firm of solicitors

RE: lingo-l OT: Giving away your lingo

2001-08-22 Thread Kurt Griffin
NEVER GIVE AWAY YOUR SOURCE CODE THAT SMALL MEDIA DEPARTMENT TODAY WILL BECOME A BIG ONE TOMMORROW AND REUSE YOUR LINGO TEMPLATE AS BASIS FOR OTHER PROJECTS. YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO SELL THE CODE TO THEM, BUT REMEMBER THEY WILL STILL IT. I HAVE SEEN IT HAPPEN BEFORE AHEM! LOL. Get over