Re: reasons why management don't want linux

2002-01-20 Thread Adam Thornton
On Mon, Jan 21, 2002 at 12:38:27AM +0100, Willem Konynenberg wrote: > The one weak point in several of the price comparisons that > I have seen sofar is that they tend to compare > NT on Intel > versus > Linux on S/390 > > which is not quite the same as > Linux on Intel > v

Re: AIX to Linux?

2002-01-20 Thread Terrence W. Zellers
On Sun, 20 Jan 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I'm assuming you're talking about a C (or even C++) coded > application that you have full source code for. If it's an > app in an interpreted language, well, a lot depends if the > interpreter is available.

Re: IBM's special expo at the start of LWE this year

2002-01-20 Thread Mike Ross
I'll have a wander round the expo; 'no budget for the rest this year' :( Mike >Hello from Gregg C Levine normally with Jedi Knight Computers > >Has anyone who has registered to attend the event(s), gotten their >registration materials, as of Friday? I have not. I am looking forward >to Tuesday's

Re: AIX to Linux?

2002-01-20 Thread soup
> On Fri, 18 Jan 2002, Kittendorf, Craig wrote: > > Has anyone ported applications from AIX (RS6000) to Linux? If so, can you > > give an idea of what applications, what's involved, difficulty, etc.? > > Maybe a little off topic for this list... ? > The answer is, of course, "it d

IBM's special expo at the start of LWE this year

2002-01-20 Thread Gregg C Levine
Hello from Gregg C Levine normally with Jedi Knight Computers Has anyone who has registered to attend the event(s), gotten their registration materials, as of Friday? I have not. I am looking forward to Tuesday's mail, as the Monday is a holiday here. Regardless of that fact, who on this list, ha

Re: reasons why management don't want linux

2002-01-20 Thread David Boyes
> >How much is a SuSe Linux/390 distribution these days? A German user > >told me yesterday that the cost is very far from insignificant. > It can be downloaded at no charge. That's the old 7.0 GA, not the SLES 7 current release. You cannot download the current release. It is not available with

Re: Disabled wait state with PSW=000A0000 80298088 booting SuSE SLES 7 for S/390

2002-01-20 Thread David Boyes
> Hello, > I've a problem with ipl suse sles7 kernel 2.4.7. After installation with yast > it isn't possible to boot from to installation device. > EXT2-fs: unable to read superblock > Can anyone help me? You'll have to contact SuSE directly for support on that release-- in fact, you paid for sup

Re: reasons why management don't want linux

2002-01-20 Thread Rich Smrcina
Interesting point. Even though licenses for some software costs the same between NT and Linux for S/390, that running on NT could cost more due to the number of physical machines needed to support a particular application. On Sunday 20 January 2002 05:38 pm, you wrote: > Rich Smrcina wrote: > >

Re: reasons why management don't want linux

2002-01-20 Thread Willem Konynenberg
Rich Smrcina wrote: > The numbers are real enough. Rockin good price comparison. > > On Friday 18 January 2002 08:38 pm, you wrote: [...] > > 100 copies of NT costs more than 1 copy of VM The one weak point in several of the price comparisons that I have seen sofar is that they tend to compare

Re: Register & linkage conventions in Linux under s/390

2002-01-20 Thread Rob van der Heij
> We are looking into porting some code to Linux on s/390 and > I will probably have to write a few assembler routines to > accomplish the port. I am looking for any documentation > available on the linkage conventions, register usage, etc. > in this environment. You're probably looking for the

Re: AOL to purchase RedHat?

2002-01-20 Thread Rich Smrcina
Agreed. I would be willing to bet that a fair percentage would fit on Linux for zseries. On Saturday 19 January 2002 03:59 pm, you wrote: > > About 5-6 years ago I was talking with one of their farm operation staff > managers and the web farm (then) was "thousands", and there were other > simila

No Tape devices showing up

2002-01-20 Thread Tyler Koyl
I finally have the kernel able to properly insert the tape390 module under SuSE 2.2.19 (LPAR on MP3000). I have also created the necessary tape devices under /dev . However, No devices are listed in /proc/tapedevices and they are clearly listed in the /var/log/boot.msg The tape devices are ch

Register & linkage conventions in Linux under s/390

2002-01-20 Thread Undetermined origin c/o LISTSERV administrator
We are looking into porting some code to Linux on s/390 and I will probably have to write a few assembler routines to accomplish the port. I am looking for any documentation available on the linkage conventions, register usage, etc. in this environment. Thanks, -- Tom Anderson

Washington Post: AOL in Talks to Buy Redhat

2002-01-20 Thread Ferguson, Neale
See: "http://linuxtoday.com/news_story.php3?ltsn=2002-01-19-002-20-NW-RH"; "AOL Time Warner Inc. is in talks to buy Red Hat Inc., a prominent distributor of a computer operating system, an acquisition that would position the media giant to challenge arch rival Microsoft Corp., according to source

Re: reasons why management don't want linux

2002-01-20 Thread Phil Payne
> Note that Alan originally asked for the number of "Red Hat PC (!!) > boxed sets" that one could buy, and this was then magically turned > into a discussion on the cost of buying a Suse Linux/390 combined > software + support package, which is quite a different thing, > and totally irrelevant for

Re: AOL to purchase RedHat?

2002-01-20 Thread Rich Smrcina
That's very funny! On Saturday 19 January 2002 04:29 pm, you wrote: > On Sat, 19 Jan 2002, Rich Smrcina wrote: > > This may not be such a bad thing, especially if AOL recognizes the > > benefits of running Linux on the zSeries. I'll bet AOL has gobs and gobs > > of servers in their server farm..

Re: reasons why management don't want linux

2002-01-20 Thread Tom Duerbusch
The only major cost of Linux or Linux/390 I recall was around $70K. I wasn't that interested in Linux at that time, so I really didn't keep the flyer. But, my impression was that it was for a 3 year support contract. It brings me to another topic. What is in a support contract? For Linux/390,

Re: AOL to purchase RedHat?

2002-01-20 Thread Werner Puschitz
On Sat, 19 Jan 2002, Rich Smrcina wrote: > This may not be such a bad thing, especially if AOL recognizes the benefits > of running Linux on the zSeries. I'll bet AOL has gobs and gobs of servers > in their server farm... Here is an article from Sep 2000: "America Online, for one, has as many

SUSE Install failure

2002-01-20 Thread Karl Tucker
Using YAST, I get: ---No Kernel Found- No installable kernals were found. Please check the directory of the installation medium. I then get: The command chroot /mnt/sbin/silo -d /dev/dasda -t2 resulted in an error The command gave the following output: chroot: canno

Re: logging in lpd with SuSE 7.0.

2002-01-20 Thread Post, Mark K
According to "man printcap' in your /etc/printcap file you can specify the name of an "accounting file". The parameter is "af". Just what information gets written into this file, I don't know. It may very well be that you'll need to also specify the name of an "accounting filter" using "if" and

Re: reasons why management don't want linux

2002-01-20 Thread Phil Payne
> The latest SuSE GA distribution can _not_ be downloaded for free. To get > it, you must either be a SuSE Business Partner, or buy it and a bundled > support contract. Indeed. I was told that a price close to $10k per engine had been quoted to a German user, and the link to the free download bl

Re: reasons why management don't want linux

2002-01-20 Thread Post, Mark K
The distribution itself is not particularly expensive. The bundled support that SuSE requires to purchase the software is $11,000 (US) per engine for the 31-bit and $14,000 per engine for 64-bit systems. Mark Post -Original Message- From: Phil Payne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Satu

Slow IUCV connections...

2002-01-20 Thread Jason McMullan
VM: z/ZM 4.2 Linux: RedHat 7.2 s/390 When I start up my Linux instance, it can often take up to 60 seconds for the VM TCPIP stack to recognize the new IUCV connections. Is this a common issue? If not, what of my config (PROFILE TCPIP, routing tables, etc) should I post? -- Jason McMullan, Seni

Re: Linux program question

2002-01-20 Thread Dave Jones
"Davis, Jeff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >I have a user doing some programming on our SuSE Linux for S390 system. He >has the following question. > >> >> The question for today is: >> >> "How carried away can I get with Linux file pointers?" >> >> Here is my problem. I have about 150 Makefil

AOL to purchase RedHat?

2002-01-20 Thread Dave Jones
There's an article in today's Houston Chronicle Business section that states that AOL-TimeWarner is in talks to acquire RedHat "sources familiar with the matter" said. Officals from AOL, RedHat and Microsoft all declined comment. The story cares a byline of the Washington Post, so I would expect i

AW: Java problem

2002-01-20 Thread Holger Baxmann (priv.)
hi, at first, the rumor is, avoid symlinks in jvm invocations. > We have been unable to instantiate a JVM via a "c" program running > on Suse Linux V7.0 with JDK1.3.0. Below is a sample "c" program to > instantiate the JVM. When the program runs, the following messages > are display: > > >> Crea

Re: AIX to Linux?

2002-01-20 Thread Terrence W. Zellers
On Fri, 18 Jan 2002, Kittendorf, Craig wrote: > Has anyone ported applications from AIX (RS6000) to Linux? If so, can you > give an idea of what applications, what's involved, difficulty, etc.? Maybe a little off topic for this list... The answer is, of course, "it depends".

Re: swap file alloc

2002-01-20 Thread Rob van der Heij
> Is there really a need to dasdfmt following the CMS FORMAT/RESERVE? No. You should not. With 'dasdfmt' you overwrite everything that CMS put there. The resulting disk is not eligable for Diagnose I/O as far as the Linux dasd driver is concerned. A 'mke2fs' (or 'mkswap' in the case of swap space

Re: swap file alloc -- V-disk Observations

2002-01-20 Thread Rob van der Heij
> mkswap writes just two records to the V-disk; so, next to no time is taken up during > Linux boot. The difference I believe is that this will not let you use diagnose I/O to it.

SUSE Yast install

2002-01-20 Thread Karl Tucker
I'm installing SUSE with YAST using the VM reader. I selected the minimal system and sucessfully install the related packages. Subsequently questions about the net config are answered, the install appears to be sucessful. However, Yast never asks for the network device. I sucessfully IPL from