Our customer wants to install SuSE 8 (SLES 8) for S390 (working on a
Multiprise 3000), does anyone know where it can be downloaded ?
Benny
On Wed, 26 Mar 2003, Benny Thys wrote:
> Our customer wants to install SuSE 8 (SLES 8) for S390 (working on a
> Multiprise 3000), does anyone know where it can be downloaded ?
> Benny
You buy it and pay for a support contract.
--
Cheers
John.
Join the "Linux Support by Small Businesses" lis
On Wed, 26 Mar 2003 07:53:53 +0800, John Summerfield wrote:
>On Tue, 25 Mar 2003, Noll, Ralph wrote:
>
>> what is the linux version of nslookup??
>
>nslookup
>
BIND9 deprecated nslookup and recommends 'dig' og 'host' instead.
/Per
regards,
Per Jessen, Zurich
http://www.enidan.com - home of
So am I really looking at a maintenance image to update a /usr (which
will later be shared RO among guests), and then copying rpm-written
files from that maintenance image's /var and /etc to each of the images?
Or is there a way I can rpm -Uhv on each of the images though /usr is
shared RO? Or ma
If you just want to 'kick the tires', you can contact a Business Partner or
SuSE and get a 6 month trial for $600. We can also work with you to install
and implement it.
On Wednesday 26 March 2003 02:43 am, you wrote:
> Our customer wants to install SuSE 8 (SLES 8) for S390 (working on a
> Multip
have to buy from suse
-Original Message-
From: Benny Thys [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2003 2:44 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: SLES 8
Our customer wants to install SuSE 8 (SLES 8) for S390 (working on a
Multiprise 3000), does anyone know where it can be downlo
On Wed, Mar 26, 2003 at 09:43:56AM +0100, Benny Thys wrote:
> Our customer wants to install SuSE 8 (SLES 8) for S390 (working on a
> Multiprise 3000), does anyone know where it can be downloaded ?
You have to buy it from SuSE.
-- db
Folks,
If I copy (say, via (cd / ; tar -clpSf - . ) | tar -xpSf -
-C /mnt) a whole bootable Linux volume to a new volume mounted to /mnt,
then chroot to /mnt, then upgrade a package (say samba) with
rpm, would that keep rpm's updates to within the d
http://www.princeton.edu/~adam/R1/r1rpt.html
--
Cheers
John.
Join the "Linux Support by Small Businesses" list at
http://mail.computerdatasafe.com.au/mailman/listinfo/lssb
On Wed, 26 Mar 2003, Froberg, David C wrote:
> Folks,
>
> If I copy (say, via (cd / ; tar -clpSf - . ) | tar -xpSf -
> -C /mnt) a whole bootable Linux volume to a new volume mounted to /mnt,
> then chroot to /mnt, then upgrade a package (say samba)
Thanks, John.
The --root is more to the point. (Sorry, I should have done a man rpm
first.)
With copying with dd, would the command like something like: dd
if=/dev/dasda1 of=/dev/dasdb1 ?
Dave
-Original Message-
From: John Summerfield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, March 26
On Wed, Mar 26, 2003 at 07:30:04AM -0500, Daniel Jarboe wrote:
> So am I really looking at a maintenance image to update a /usr (which
> will later be shared RO among guests), and then copying rpm-written
> files from that maintenance image's /var and /etc to each of the images?
>
> Or is there a w
> Now, start updating your guests. For each guest (this can only be
> parallelized up to the number of different S2s you have), attach S2
> read-write. Use mount with the --bind parameter to mount S2
> over /usr, and then apply your service. Shut down the guest.
> Reimage S2 from U0. Change the
that was it..
thanks for all you all's help
Ralph
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2003 2:25 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: nslookup
>
>
> actually Linux has nslookup, you need to install the
> bind-tools pa
A Linux Virtual Server is a scalable, highly-available server built on a cluster of
real servers. See:
http://www.linuxvirtualserver.org
Has anyone implemented this on S/390 or zSeries? Does either Red Hat or SuSE support
this environment?
William P. Scully
Systems Programmer
Computer As
On Wed, 26 Mar 2003 09:43:56 +0100, Benny Thys
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Our customer wants to install SuSE 8 (SLES 8) for S390 (working on a
Multiprise 3000), does anyone know where it can be downloaded ?
Benny
Suse have chosen not to make it available on their FTP site. I think we
have a copy so
I ran into a similar issue. I ended up having to restart the Apache server.
>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/25/03 03:13PM >>>
installed webmin..
can connect with root
i changed root password
cannot connect..
it there a config file for webmin>???
thanks
Ralph
Carlos Ordones at the IBM POK Linux center has done a lot with it; I've
spent some time experiementing as well. It's not a completely perfect
solution, but if your problem fits the parameters that LVS supports,
it's not a bad way to go. Be aware that it's pretty CPU intensive if
you turn on some o
Then SuSE doesn't get compensated for their hard work, they stop making money
and stop making a distribution. Who wins?
On Wednesday 26 March 2003 10:11 am, you wrote:
> (This argument has been around before; I've checked the licenses, Suse
> don't make it available for free download, but there's
Greetings,
For anyone who is looking at this problem here is some more info.
It always happens at the same time of day, and that is the same
time that logrotate runs. But, it doesn't happen every day!
The process is always apache.
NB. My original post is in the archives at:
http://www2.mar
On Wed, Mar 26, 2003 at 11:26:54AM -0600, Dennis Wicks wrote:
> For anyone who is looking at this problem here is some more info.
>
> It always happens at the same time of day, and that is the same
> time that logrotate runs. But, it doesn't happen every day!
>
> The process is always apache.
>
> N
Well said Rich...
Rich Smrcina wrote:
Then SuSE doesn't get compensated for their hard work, they stop making money
and stop making a distribution. Who wins?
On Wednesday 26 March 2003 10:11 am, you wrote:
(This argument has been around before; I've checked the licenses, Suse
don't make it
Hello from Gregg C Levine
Wasn't the originally intended purpose behind the way Linus wanted his
product, to be distributed to be in the method Mike is intending?
And does SuSe have any proprietary features enclosed inside the SLES8
setup, outside of their setup tools?
This is the classic no win
On Wed, 2003-03-26 at 17:14, Rich Smrcina wrote:
> Then SuSE doesn't get compensated for their hard work, they stop making money
> and stop making a distribution. Who wins?
*WHOSE* hard work
Most of the SuSE stuff is free software. It's not all SuSE's work, its
not all Red Hat's work. It is
Please don't take my comment the wrong way, I absolutely believe in the intent
of free software. But there is alot of effort put forth by distributors in
packaging the kernels and various products, and with their foray into the
zSeries market they are very much like fish out of water. They have t
> (This argument has been around before; I've checked the licenses, Suse
> don't make it available for free download, but there's nothing to stop
> anyone else redistributing it so long as they don't take money).
It's interesting in a way to note that the license is at least partially obsolete.
Where are you getting $10 broadband? All the carriers in Seattle are charging $45-50
per month.
They say there are three signs of stress in your life. You eat too much junk food,
you drive too fast and you veg out in front of the TV. Who are they kidding? That
sounds like a perfect day to m
On Wed, 26 Mar 2003 11:14:05 -0600, Rich Smrcina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
Then SuSE doesn't get compensated for their hard work, they stop making
money
and stop making a distribution. Who wins?
This is Linux. Open-source. You can't make a business plan predicated on
being able to raise revenue f
SUSE wins. People will download what Mike posted, They will begin using
it. They will become dependent on it. They will want a support contract.
So who will they get to support it. Not Mike because his license says
don't make money by redistributing the SUSE software. So SUSE gains
additional payin
i'm creating an 11 physical volume vg for the datafiles of an oracle
database. i'm curious as to which would serve me better, full pack
minidisks or dedicate the volumes to the guest. one vm "expert" recommended
dedicating the volumes to the guest, thereby bypassing any vm overhead. at
the same t
WAVV 2003: Get the best in Linux, VM, and VSE education!
The WAVV Conference
Winston Salem NC, April 25-29, 2003.
Registration is only $300.
The following Linux sessions will be presented at WAVV 2003. For complete
details on the WAVV 2003 conference and registration information go to www.wavv.or
Not much of a Linux or Oracle expert, but with a good deal of experience
with VM: I generally recommend full-pack minidisks for such
applications. The additional overhead to VM is generally small and the
use of minidisks allows you considerable future flexibility such as
adding additional minidisk
Phil's in the UK, where they have civilized telecom infrastructure
pricing and regulators with actual power to force the telcos to deliver
on promises.
-- db
David Boyes
Sine Nomine Associates
> -Original Message-
> From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of
> Wolfe, Go
> i'm creating an 11 physical volume vg for the datafiles of an oracle
> database. i'm curious as to which would serve me better, full pack
> minidisks or dedicate the volumes to the guest. one vm
> "expert" recommended
> dedicating the volumes to the guest, thereby bypassing any vm
> overhead. a
On Wed, 2003-03-26 at 19:29, David Boyes wrote:
> Phil's in the UK, where they have civilized telecom infrastructure
> pricing and regulators with actual power to force the telcos to deliver
> on promises.
Choke..8)
Broadband here converts to about $40-45/month in funnymoney
Alan
i'm sorry if i wasn't clear, they are "lvm"ed together.
-Original Message-
From: David Boyes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2003 1:35 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: minidisk vs. dedicate
> i'm creating an 11 physical volume vg for the datafiles of an oracle
>
Yeah, that's what I assumed. I'm suggesting breaking the full volumes
into several smaller parts (say 3 1000 cylinder chunks) and aggregating
the smaller chunks with LVM. You end up with more effective spindles,
which allow more I/Os to be in flight at the same time for the same
filesystem. Works r
> On Wed, 2003-03-26 at 19:29, David Boyes wrote:
> > Phil's in the UK, where they have civilized telecom infrastructure
> > pricing and regulators with actual power to force the
> telcos to deliver
> > on promises.
> Choke..8)
Hey, at least you didn't have to wait 15 years for ISDN to fail...8-)
David,
One question/observation. Ignoring PAV on the ESS or equivalent, there can
still be only one physical I/O going to a physical volume (as seen by VM).
Therefore, when using the MDISK in this fashion, it is a good idea to put
the different MDISKs on separate physical volumes. Is this still tru
On Wed, 26 Mar 2003 19:14:36 +, Alan Cox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
On Wed, 2003-03-26 at 17:14, Rich Smrcina wrote:
Then SuSE doesn't get compensated for their hard work, they stop making
money
and stop making a distribution. Who wins?
*WHOSE* hard work
Well said Alan..
Mike
http://
Physically, that's true -- ultimately there is only one physical I/O in
progress. However, by splitting up the disks into a larger number of
small chunks and presenting them to Linux in the virtual machine
configuration, the Linux system sees the smaller minidisks as separate
volumes, and thus sche
I always thought, and I may be wrong, that one of the main advantages to having either
a PAV or individual minidisks was so that instead of having 1 queue for the device,
you now have many. If your first I/O in the queue needs to do a physical I/O, then
all the other I/Os wait. If most of the
> I always thought, and I may be wrong, that one of the main
> advantages to having either a PAV or individual minidisks was
> so that instead of having 1 queue for the device, you now
> have many.
That's kind of the idea here -- you get sort of a poor-man's PAV via CP
getting its hands on the I/O
On Wed, Mar 26, 2003 at 10:47:50AM -0500, Adam Thornton wrote:
> > Or is there a way I can rpm -Uhv on each of the images though /usr is
> > shared RO?
[ snip ]
> read-write. Use mount with the --bind parameter to mount S2 over /usr,
> and then apply your service. Shut down the guest. Reimage
On Wed, Mar 26, 2003 at 12:45:07PM -0600, Stephen Frazier wrote:
>
> Rich Smrcina wrote:
> >On Wednesday 26 March 2003 10:11 am, you wrote:
> >
> >>(This argument has been around before; I've checked the licenses, Suse
> >>don't make it available for free download, but there's nothing to stop
> >>a
On Wed, Mar 26, 2003 at 09:49:54PM +0800, John Summerfield wrote:
> On Wed, 26 Mar 2003, Froberg, David C wrote:
>
> > Folks,
> >
> > If I copy (say, via (cd / ; tar -clpSf - . ) | tar -xpSf - -C /mnt)
> > a whole bootable Linux volume to a new volume mounted to /mnt,
> > then chro
On Wed, 26 Mar 2003, Froberg, David C wrote:
> Thanks, John.
>
> The --root is more to the point. (Sorry, I should have done a man rpm
> first.)
>
> With copying with dd, would the command like something like: dd
> if=/dev/dasda1 of=/dev/dasdb1 ?
;-)
man dd
I'd add bs, but it mght not matter on
On Wed, 26 Mar 2003, Kenneth Illingsworth wrote:
> I ran into a similar issue. I ended up having to restart the Apache server.
Strange. Webmin does not use Apache.
--
Cheers
John.
Join the "Linux Support by Small Businesses" list at
http://mail.computerdatasafe.com.au/mailman/listinfo/lssb
On Wed, Mar 26, 2003 at 10:22:40PM +0200, Tzafrir Cohen wrote:
> In other words: the guests still have to be shut down for every software
> update in that method. Unlike what normally happens in an rpm -Uv .
Yes, although you certainly can apply several RPMS at once. But
eventually you should rei
It's also about the value of getting a reasonably coherent distribution, and
not just a collection of no-cost software simply thrown onto a CD. While
there is a tremendous amount of hard work done by the authors of the
software, putting together a distribution, testing it, and supporting it is
als
> Choke..8)
>
> Broadband here converts to about $40-45/month in funnymoney
Yeah, but the point survives.
When the license was originally written, distribution was "push".
Now it's "pull".
--
Phil Payne
http://www.isham-research.com
+44 7785 302 803
+49 173 6242039
On Wed, 26 Mar 2003, Rich Smrcina wrote:
> Then SuSE doesn't get compensated for their hard work, they stop making money
> and stop making a distribution. Who wins?
>
> On Wednesday 26 March 2003 10:11 am, you wrote:
> > (This argument has been around before; I've checked the licenses, Suse
> > d
Hi: I am announcing zVM training that may be of interest to some readers
on this list.
I have developed a five day zVM Training and Systems Programming Workshop.
Course dates are scheduled in New York and Toronto. Private offerings
are available as well.
The contents and topics are modular, so I wi
On Wed, 26 Mar 2003, Alan Cox wrote:
> On Wed, 2003-03-26 at 17:14, Rich Smrcina wrote:
> > Then SuSE doesn't get compensated for their hard work, they stop making money
> > and stop making a distribution. Who wins?
>
> *WHOSE* hard work
>
> Most of the SuSE stuff is free software. It's not
On Wed, 26 Mar 2003, Wolfe, Gordon W wrote:
> Where are you getting $10 broadband? All the carriers in Seattle are charging
> $45-50 per month.
>
Starting prices here are $49/month.
Our dollars are currently worth about 60c US.
--
Cheers
John.
Join the "Linux Support by Small Businesses"
On Wed, 26 Mar 2003, David Boyes wrote:
> > On Wed, 2003-03-26 at 19:29, David Boyes wrote:
> > > Phil's in the UK, where they have civilized telecom infrastructure
> > > pricing and regulators with actual power to force the
> > telcos to deliver
> > > on promises.
> > Choke..8)
>
> Hey, at least
On Wed, 26 Mar 2003, Tzafrir Cohen wrote:
> Another issue:
>
> rpms may have certain pre/post-[un]install script that deal with the data in
> /etc or in /var . Frankly they may want to do some strange thing with
> files in /usr , though I can't think of a specific example.
symlinks are likely. I
On Wed, 26 Mar 2003, Tzafrir Cohen wrote:
> >
> > The idea is sound. Note:
> >
> > Be sure you replicate the _entire_ system
> > dd may be faster than tar | tar. Depends on how much data.
>
> Doing either of those things on a running system exposes you to a chance
> of copying an inconsistant fil
Without PAV, having Linux issue 3 I/Os to the same physical
volume will NOT help performance. If one of those I/O must
be satisified by activity to a real disk, all of the remaining I/O
queued on the device will wait, even those with data residing
in cache who could be satisfied immediately.
And t
http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/53/29963.html
--
Cheers
John.
Join the "Linux Support by Small Businesses" list at
http://mail.computerdatasafe.com.au/mailman/listinfo/lssb
On Wed, Mar 26, 2003 at 04:57:11PM -0800, Barton Robinson wrote:
> Without PAV, having Linux issue 3 I/Os to the same physical
> volume will NOT help performance. If one of those I/O must
> be satisified by activity to a real disk, all of the remaining I/O
> queued on the device will wait, even tho
anyone using or know where we can buy
a financial system running on linux
for s390...
we are using suse sles8 31 bit for s390
we now have AMS(advanage financial systems) running on
vse/esa on z/800..
we are getting ready to start looking and buying next
year 2004...
thanks for your input and h
Check out the IBM Linux zSeries ISV page at:
http://www-1.ibm.com/servers/eserver/zseries/solutions/s390da/linuxproduct.html
Watch for any breaks in the URL...
On Wednesday 26 March 2003 08:40 pm, you wrote:
> anyone using or know where we can buy
> a financial system running on linux
> for s390
On Wed, 26 Mar 2003 22:54:16 +0200, Tzafrir Cohen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
snip..
* A major one: the distro is not worth much without the patches. What
you download from that server is nice for testing, but it is still not
enough for production, because it lacks, say, the latest sendmail
patch. S
64 matches
Mail list logo
