Re: What distribution and why?

2008-04-15 Thread Phil Smith III
"Evans, Kevin R" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >As I said, though, I don't have a problem...but thanks for trying to >help! I believe the confusion here is due to what looked like a slightly idiomatic American usage -- "What EXACTLY is your problem???" -- which translates to "Hey, jerk, what is wro

Has anyone order z/VM from ShopZseries?

2008-04-15 Thread Les Geer (607-429-3580)
According to Sue Baloga, it looks like this order consisted of DFSMS only, which could be a valid VM/SDO order. You can order the z/VM base system and/or optional licensed products. When anything is ordered through the VM/SDO,base or LP, the optional product enabling aid is also shipped. The ins

Re: recover root password

2008-04-15 Thread John Summerfield
McKown, John wrote: -Original Message- From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Summerfield Sent: Monday, April 14, 2008 5:34 PM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: recover root password [snip] Red Hat expects administrators to know and use root's passw

Re: recover root password

2008-04-15 Thread John Summerfield
Rob van der Heij wrote: More convenient IMHO is to have another running Linux server reach out to the disks of the dead server and mount them. That way you have all the tools you need to fix things (though it may be that current LVM-tools have a strong one-system mindset). Folk on RH/Fedora l

Re: recover root password

2008-04-15 Thread John Summerfield
Bjoern A. Zeeb wrote: On Mon, 14 Apr 2008, Miguel Roman wrote: Hi, so, all I read was that you had to take down/reboot the linux system to recover. The days I last used linux (on intel that was) you could simply boot into single user mode and got a shell once / was mounted without being asked

Re: recover root password

2008-04-15 Thread John Summerfield
Malcolm Beattie wrote: RPN01 writes: To be completely compliant, everything done by / with root will need to be logged, showing what was done, and by whom. Can you do that now, with two or more people logging into root? Can you do it with even one person logging into root? Not on

Re: recover root password

2008-04-15 Thread John Summerfield
RPN01 wrote: By default, sudo expects root's password. That is not what the man page says, It _is_ the way SUSE configures it. -- Cheers John -- spambait [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Advice http://webfoot.com/advice/email.top.php http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.htm

Re: recover root password

2008-04-15 Thread John Summerfield
Rob van der Heij wrote: On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 12:34 AM, John Summerfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Until the vendors change their approach, administrators are going to be working that way. But isn't that why folks bother to hang out on mailing lists and learn how to improve their way of

Re: recover root password

2008-04-15 Thread Marcy Cortes
Hey, didn't we talk about this stuff a few weeks ago on the phone? Anyway, we have a unix/linux product in lieu of sudo (on every place but zLinux at the moment due to vendor support, but that is changing real soon now) that key stroke logs (to a remote server) every thing one does while running a

Re: recover root password

2008-04-15 Thread Alan Altmark
Bob Nix wrote: > Anyone sticking to the "I have to have root!" model of system > administration is leaving themselves open to a huge awakening > as Sarbanes-Oxley and other > regulations overtake us. While we aren't required by law to conform to > Sarbanes-Oxley, we've chosen to bring ourselves as

Re: recover root password

2008-04-15 Thread Evans, Kevin R
Even though I don't do Linux work...I agree with Robert here. Now, it would be a nice feature on the Linux installs, I would imagine, if RH and Novell and others made it easy to set this up as the install was running. At least as far as setting up one admin account/password etc. Kevin -Origi

Re: recover root password

2008-04-15 Thread Malcolm Beattie
RPN01 writes: > To be completely compliant, everything done by / with root > will need to be logged, showing what was done, and by whom. Can you do that > now, with two or more people logging into root? Can you do it with even one > person logging into root? Not on any distribution

Re: recover root password

2008-04-15 Thread David Boyes
> (Is there a s390[x] implementation of selinux? Just wondering. I don't > even know how to *capitalize* selinux.) Yes. Both major vendors and Debian ship it loaded, but with SELinux functions turned off or warn-only due to the massive impact of how it changes the behavior of the system. -

Re: CentOS 4.4 kernel panic on boot s390x

2008-04-15 Thread Kelly F. Hickel
> -Original Message- > From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > Mark Post > Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2008 10:18 AM > To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU > Subject: Re: CentOS 4.4 kernel panic on boot s390x > > >>> On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 11:03 AM, in message > <[EMAIL PROTE

Re: CentOS 4.4 kernel panic on boot s390x

2008-04-15 Thread Mark Post
>>> On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 11:03 AM, in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Kelly F. Hickel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: -snip- > That explains something, although fdasd doesn't think there are > partition tables either, I just tried again though, and I can still do a > "normal" load from DASD address D

Re: recover root password

2008-04-15 Thread David Andrews
On Tue, 2008-04-15 at 08:56 -0500, RPN01 wrote: > Anyone willing to bet a coke on it? Never touch the stuff. While I take your point about staying out of root insofar as possible, there are other ways to compartmentalize our systems: virtualization, r/o filesystems in dedicated partitions, chroot

Re: CentOS 4.4 kernel panic on boot s390x

2008-04-15 Thread Kelly F. Hickel
> >>> On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 7:55 AM, in message > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > "Kelly F. > Hickel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Well, I guess that I'm out of luck. It says that there are no valid > > partition tables on any of my devices, I have no idea how that could > > have possibly happened, but

Re: CentOS 4.4 kernel panic on boot s390x

2008-04-15 Thread Kelly F. Hickel
> -Original Message- > From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > Brad Hinson > Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2008 8:52 AM > To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU > Subject: Re: CentOS 4.4 kernel panic on boot s390x > > I think that message may be misleading. If you're getting that

Re: CentOS 4.4 kernel panic on boot s390x

2008-04-15 Thread Mark Post
>>> On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 7:55 AM, in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Kelly F. Hickel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Well, I guess that I'm out of luck. It says that there are no valid > partition tables on any of my devices, I have no idea how that could > have possibly happened, but I seem to ha

Re: recover root password

2008-04-15 Thread Rob van der Heij
On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 3:56 PM, RPN01 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > RedHat and SuSE expect administrators to use the root account because "It's > always been done that way." But, when you have more than one administrator, > and especially if you have more than a hand-full, like six to fifteen,

Has anyone order z/VM from ShopZseries?

2008-04-15 Thread Peter E. Abresch Jr. - at Pepco
I ordered z/VM V5.3 from ShopZseries and received the following downloads: Opt Prod Enabling Aid Download ? V6720401.TERS0014 (0.730 MB) DFSMS/VM FL221 Download ? V6720403.TERS0014 (63.8 MB) DFSMS/VM Kanji Download ? V6720402.TERS0004 (2.8 MB) and some electronic Documenta

Re: recover root password

2008-04-15 Thread RPN01
By default, sudo expects root's password. But, it can be easily configured to expect the user to enter his own password instead. It's a one line change. RedHat and SuSE expect administrators to use the root account because "It's always been done that way." But, when you have more than one administ

Re: CentOS 4.4 kernel panic on boot s390x

2008-04-15 Thread Brad Hinson
I think that message may be misleading. If you're getting that far into the boot process, the partition tables may be there. Did you get to the point of entering the NFS/HTTP/FTP server and path and selecting "Next"? That's really as far as you need to go in the installer. The rest should be don

Re: recover root password

2008-04-15 Thread Robert J Brenneman
another option to recover a root password on recent Linux on Z distros is to supply a replacement init on boot up - like so: zIPL v1.6.0 interactive boot menu 0. default (ipl) 1. ipl 2. Failsafe Note: VM users please use '#cp vi vmsg ' Please choose (default will boot in 10 seconds): #cp

Re: Help needed adding LCS Ethernet on a z9 for z/Linux LPAR (NO VM)

2008-04-15 Thread Sam Bass
For some reason I am not getting any e-mail from my own posting. I get all other Linux-390 postings. I had to go to the Linux-390 index to read them. In response to Ursula Braun, lscss did not show F100-F101. Modules cu3088 and lcs loaded since I already have F200 LCS Ethernet working.

Re: recover root password

2008-04-15 Thread McKown, John
> -Original Message- > From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of John Summerfield > Sent: Monday, April 14, 2008 5:34 PM > To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU > Subject: Re: recover root password [snip] > > Red Hat expects administrators to know and use root's password. T

Re: CentOS 4.4 kernel panic on boot s390x

2008-04-15 Thread Kelly F. Hickel
Well, I guess that I'm out of luck. It says that there are no valid partition tables on any of my devices, I have no idea how that could have possibly happened, but I seem to have no choices left except to reinstall. I guess that I also don't really understand how it could be getting far enough al

Re: CentOS 4.4 kernel panic on boot s390x

2008-04-15 Thread Kelly F. Hickel
Brad, That sounds like a great tip, I'll give it a try. I hadn't gone past the initial "choose a language" screen, both because some of the google hits said that was as far as you needed to go, and because I was afraid that if I gave it the location, it might destroy some of the data. I kn

Re: Help needed adding LCS Ethernet on a z9 for z/Linux LPAR (NO VM)

2008-04-15 Thread Ursula Braun1
Sam, are your devices 0.0.f100, 0.0.f101 known, i.e. contained in the output for "lscss"? Are the modules cu3088 and lcs loaded, i.e. contained in the output for "lsmod"? Best regards, Ursula Braun, IBM Germany -- For LINUX-390 s

Re: recover root password

2008-04-15 Thread Rob van der Heij
On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 11:33 AM, Bjoern A. Zeeb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > So now I have no idea if > - is it possible to boot into single user mode easily from VM? > - the distributions do ask for a password (the root password) these > days before you get the shell in single user mode? T

Re: recover root password

2008-04-15 Thread Bjoern A. Zeeb
On Mon, 14 Apr 2008, Miguel Roman wrote: Hi, so, all I read was that you had to take down/reboot the linux system to recover. The days I last used linux (on intel that was) you could simply boot into single user mode and got a shell once / was mounted without being asked for a password. You cha

Re: recover root password

2008-04-15 Thread Rob van der Heij
On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 12:34 AM, John Summerfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Until the vendors change their approach, administrators are going to be > working that way. But isn't that why folks bother to hang out on mailing lists and learn how to improve their way of working? I consider the