Re: HiperSocket Performance

2009-01-15 Thread Ron Foster at Baldor-IS
Dave, With the above settings I'm seeing throughput in the area of 15-18 Mb per second. We also have FDR/UPSTREAM and use hipersockets to access the zOS tape library. Our SAP systems run continuously except for a very small window early Sunday morning. (Too small to perform all of our backups.

Re: HiperSocket Performance

2009-01-15 Thread Adam Thornton
On Jan 15, 2009, at 9:35 AM, Rakoczy, Dave wrote: zLinux assigns the MTU size according to the IQD CHPID definition. For sake of discussion lets say I set the CHPID to a Max Frame Size of 64K, that would give me an MTU size of 56K according to the Doc. Where can I control the size of the packe

Re: HiperSocket Performance

2009-01-15 Thread Mark Perry
Rakoczy, Dave wrote: > zLinux assigns the MTU size according to the IQD CHPID definition. > > For sake of discussion lets say I set the CHPID to a Max Frame Size of > 64K, that would give me an MTU size of 56K according to the Doc. > > Where can I control the size of the packets I'll send across th

Re: HiperSocket Performance

2009-01-15 Thread Rakoczy, Dave
on 390 Port [mailto:linux-...@vm.marist.edu] On Behalf Of Adam Thornton Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2009 9:56 AM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: HiperSocket Performance On Jan 15, 2009, at 8:40 AM, Rakoczy, Dave wrote: > > I've spent the past few days scouring these archives look

Re: HiperSocket Performance

2009-01-15 Thread Mark Post
>>> On 1/15/2009 at 10:35 AM, "Rakoczy, Dave" wrote: -snip- > Sorry for all the questions... But I've got to learn this stuff > somewhere. No need to apologize. The reason this mailing list exists in the first place is to share knowledge. Mark Post --

Re: HiperSocket Performance

2009-01-15 Thread Rakoczy, Dave
day, January 15, 2009 10:07 AM To: LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: HiperSocket Performance For bulk data transfer, make the MTU size as large as possible, and make your packet sizes at least 40 bytes smaller than the maximum MTU to avoid fragmentation of data packets. That allows space for th

Re: HiperSocket Performance

2009-01-15 Thread David Boyes
For bulk data transfer, make the MTU size as large as possible, and make your packet sizes at least 40 bytes smaller than the maximum MTU to avoid fragmentation of data packets. That allows space for the TCP header on each packet. Note that this will affect interactive response, so it's probably n

Re: HiperSocket Performance

2009-01-15 Thread Adam Thornton
On Jan 15, 2009, at 8:40 AM, Rakoczy, Dave wrote: I've spent the past few days scouring these archives looking for what others have done. I found a few threads that addressed HiperSocket throughput speeds between zOS and zLinux, but were using FTP as the benchmark utility. I have a window this

HiperSocket Performance

2009-01-15 Thread Rakoczy, Dave
Hello all, We are a longtime zOS shop taking the plunge into the zVM / zLinux (SUSE 10SP2) world. We had never implemented HiperSockets in our zOS environment so our experience with this technology is rather limited. HiperSockets were implemented specifically to support our desire to take advant

Re: Hipersocket Performance Problem on SLES 9

2007-01-19 Thread Mark Wheeler
OTECTED] IST.EDU> Subject Re: Hipersocket Performance Problem on SLES 9 01/19/2007 04:55 AM Please respond to Linux on 390 Por

Re: Hipersocket Performance Problem on SLES 9

2007-01-19 Thread Harold Grovesteen
MTU sizes. In the process of investigating this alleged "hipersocket performance problem" (as reported by our Linux support person up four chains of management), I discovered an interesting issue with scp. It shows very limitted sensitivity for interface type, MTU size, or direction of

Re: Hipersocket Performance Problem on SLES 9

2007-01-18 Thread barton
PUT performance with large MTU sizes. In the process of investigating this alleged "hipersocket performance problem" (as reported by our Linux support person up four chains of management), I discovered an interesting issue with scp. It shows very limitted sensitivity for interface t

Re: Hipersocket Performance Problem on SLES 9

2007-01-18 Thread Mark Wheeler
e transfer rate (from 90-100 MB/sec w/ MTU=16376 down to 10-15 MB/sec for MTU=32084. At MTU=32085, performance drops off a cliff, down to 400 KB/sec. So, one problem appears to be related to FTP PUT performance with large MTU sizes. In the process of investigating this alleged "hipersocket perf

Re: Hipersocket Performance Problem on SLES 9

2007-01-16 Thread Mark Wheeler
Just to bring everyone up to speed (it's been a while): I've done more testing and so far have seen this only between two SLES9 systems. Things run fine up to MTU=32084; at MTU=32085 and above throughput drops to ~400KB/sec. Problem has been reported to SuSE but haven't heard back from them. What

Re: Hipersocket Performance Problem on SLES 9

2006-12-15 Thread Tom Shilson
Same here. Very disappointed. Intel and z. tom - - - - - - - - - - - - Toto, I have a feeling we're not in the mainframe world any more. _/) Tom Shilson ~Unix Team / IT Server Services Aloha Tel: 651-733-7591 tshilson at mmm dot com

Re: Hipersocket Performance Problem on SLES 9

2006-12-15 Thread James Melin
ubject Re: Hipersocket Performance Problem on SLES 9 Please respond to Linux on 390 Port I don't know what they are doing. I opened the incident on-line yesterday. They came right back and request more info. I sent them that. Haven'

Re: Hipersocket Performance Problem on SLES 9

2006-12-15 Thread Tom Shilson
/2006 02:28 PM Please respond to Linux on 390 Port To LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU cc Subject Re: Hipersocket Performance Problem on SLES 9 Novell can't even find the ticket # I gave you that we filed this under? Tom Shilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: Hipersocket Performance Problem on SLES 9

2006-12-15 Thread James Melin
06 02:24 PM Subject Re: Hipersocket Performance Problem on SLES 9 Please

Re: Hipersocket Performance Problem on SLES 9

2006-12-15 Thread Tom Shilson
ler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent by: Linux on 390 Port To LINUX-390@VM.MARIST.EDU cc 12/14/2006 08:33 AM Subject Hipersocket Performance Problem on SLES 9 Please respond to Linux on 390 Port Greetings all, I'

Re: Hipersocket Performance Problem on SLES 9

2006-12-14 Thread James Melin
Subject Hipersocket Performance Problem on SLES 9 Please respond to Linux on 390 Port Greetings all, I've been using real hipersockets for a couple years now. Recently a significant performance problem with SLES

Hipersocket Performance Problem on SLES 9

2006-12-14 Thread Mark Wheeler
Greetings all, I've been using real hipersockets for a couple years now. Recently a significant performance problem with SLES 9 and large MTU sizes was brought to my attention. I've been using MTU=32760. I set up a test to illustrate the problem. I built a 256 MB file on one zLinux guest (running

Re: Hipersocket performance

2003-10-19 Thread Lucius, Leland
> > Kris may have hit on the reason for this one: the buffer size > for the particular device driver (which is completely > different from the MTU). > Yepper, I'm guessing he's right. I just can't find it. I've done some more testing and I'm getting so many different results without a noticable p

Re: Hipersocket performance

2003-10-19 Thread Vic Cross
On Sun, 19 Oct 2003, Adam Thornton wrote: > How much does a large MTU actually help, even when everyone supports it? I think it has more to do with reducing processing overhead in your host systems than wringing the last bit out of your network. Increasing the MTU from 1500 to 2 (say) will y

Re: Hipersocket performance

2003-10-19 Thread Post, Mark K
: Re: Hipersocket performance > > SLES8A --> ZOS1 = ~56KB/sec!! > If anyone is interested, I was able to increase this to around 55MB/sec by changing SLES8A's MTU to 20480. Anything higher and it drops back down to "K/sec". I haven't had a c

Re: Hipersocket performance

2003-10-19 Thread Alan Altmark
On Sunday, 10/19/2003 at 10:01 EST, Adam Thornton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > How much does a large MTU actually help, even when everyone supports it? > > I usually leave mine at either 1492 or 1500, regardless of the allowable > interface maximum, because there's often something in the path that

Re: Hipersocket performance

2003-10-19 Thread Kris Van Hees
I may be off majorly (it's late and I've been ill all day), but since the hipersockets are implemented as an emulation, they can run at a speed that is close to memory access speed, which is generally much faster than your typical network. In that case, the overhead from the IP header is not at al

Re: Hipersocket performance

2003-10-19 Thread Adam Thornton
On Sun, 2003-10-19 at 20:18, Lucius, Leland wrote: > > > > SLES8A --> ZOS1 = ~56KB/sec!! > > > If anyone is interested, I was able to increase this to around 55MB/sec by > changing SLES8A's MTU to 20480. Anything higher and it drops back down to > "K/sec". I haven't had a

Re: Hipersocket performance

2003-10-19 Thread Lucius, Leland
> > SLES8A --> ZOS1 = ~56KB/sec!! > If anyone is interested, I was able to increase this to around 55MB/sec by changing SLES8A's MTU to 20480. Anything higher and it drops back down to "K/sec". I haven't had a chance to change the ZOS side yet. Leland CONFIDENTIALITY NO

Re: Hipersocket performance

2003-10-18 Thread Lucius, Leland
> > Also, one thing I will be trying shortly is z/VM 4.4 and I > was wondering if the new QIOASSIST is available when running > on a z/800? I suspect not. > Welp, no luck on this one. z/VM 4.4 tells me I'm out of luck with: HCP2162I QIOAssist is not available :-( Leland CONFIDENTIALITY

Hipersocket performance

2003-10-18 Thread Lucius, Leland
I'm having an interesting problem with hipersockets that I just can't seem to figure out. Here's the lay of the land: ZOS1 1.4 in LPAR 1 ZOS2 1.4 in LPAR 2 ZVM 4.3 in LPAR 3 SLES8A guest under ZVM1 SLES8B guest under ZVM1 All systems are on a 10.2.32.x/25 network. All are set to use an MTU of