Re: Iaas - SCO vs IBM Wave vs xCat vs zPro

2015-01-22 Thread John McKown
On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 1:08 AM, Cameron Seay cws...@gmail.com wrote: I am teaching several nainframe classes this term and a question came up: does FICON proper provide firewall services or is that handled by RACF and the external firewall of the network where the mainframe lives? ​FICON is

Re: Iaas - SCO vs IBM Wave vs xCat vs zPro

2015-01-22 Thread Alan Altmark
On Wednesday, 01/21/2015 at 10:09 EST, Mark Post mp...@suse.com wrote: I find it amazing that anyone at IBM came up with a product name with the initials SCO. I can't decide if they were being snarky or oblivious. All of the cloud-related products have had the word Smart removed from them.

Re: Iaas - SCO vs IBM Wave vs xCat vs zPro

2015-01-22 Thread Alan Altmark
On Thursday, 01/22/2015 at 02:09 EST, Cameron Seay cws...@gmail.com wrote: I am teaching several nainframe classes this term and a question came up: does FICON proper provide firewall services or is that handled by RACF and the external firewall of the network where the mainframe lives? FICON

Re: Iaas - SCO vs IBM Wave vs xCat vs zPro

2015-01-21 Thread Kurt Acker
I'm not going to try an answer all the questions, however hopefully I can put some context into how SCO (or IBM Cloud Orchestrator) and WAVE complement each other or how they can be used to serve independent purposes. WAVE does a lot more then just provisioning. If you have SCO, you would most

Re: Iaas - SCO vs IBM Wave vs xCat vs zPro

2015-01-21 Thread Mark Post
I find it amazing that anyone at IBM came up with a product name with the initials SCO. I can't decide if they were being snarky or oblivious. Mark Post -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send

Re: Iaas - SCO vs IBM Wave vs xCat vs zPro

2015-01-21 Thread Cameron Seay
I am teaching several nainframe classes this term and a question came up: does FICON proper provide firewall services or is that handled by RACF and the external firewall of the network where the mainframe lives? On Jan 21, 2015 10:08 PM, Mark Post mp...@suse.com wrote: I find it amazing that

Re: Iaas - SCO vs IBM Wave vs xCat vs zPro - ZPRO

2015-01-20 Thread Barton Robinson
zPRO has been out for about 4 years and was a project started almost 10 years ago. We had many customers create their own self service applications using our web technology, it seemed reasonable to take their ideas and make a common product. ZPRO V2 is built on ALL native z/VM functionality,

Re: Iaas - SCO vs IBM Wave vs xCat vs zPro - ZPRO

2015-01-20 Thread Tom Huegel
If you want to play remember xCAT is a freebie. If you are z/VM 6.3 you have xCAT and can jump right in. On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 2:08 PM, Barton Robinson bar...@velocitysoftware.com wrote: zPRO has been out for about 4 years and was a project started almost 10 years ago. We had many

Iaas - SCO vs IBM Wave vs xCat vs zPro

2015-01-20 Thread Grzegorz Powiedziuk
Hello, I am trying to do some sort of a comparison between these products and more digging I do then more I am lost. There are many presentations out there with big words like cloud, orchestrate, cut costs bla bla bla but it is hard get to the bottom of it. Correct me if I am wrong but so