Notes server finally available on Linux for 390!

2003-10-01 Thread David Boyes
Interesting piece of mail: looks like the Visigoths won again8-) Now, on to a Linux client... Interesting also that they allow transferring licenses between platforms. That may prove very useful. -- db Linux for zSeries supports Domino 6.5 only. Linux for zSeries does not support ea

Re: Notes server finally available on Linux for 390!

2003-10-01 Thread Post, Mark K
MAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Notes server finally available on Linux for 390! Interesting piece of mail: looks like the Visigoths won again8-) Now, on to a Linux client... Interesting also that they allow transferring licenses between platforms. That may prove very useful. -- db Linux for

Re: Notes server finally available on Linux for 390!

2003-10-01 Thread Thorsten Hock
Linux client. They seem to think the browser-based interface is good enough for us Visigoths. I told them "that stinks" without getting back any sympathy. :P Mark Post -Original Message- From: David Boyes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2003 9:59 AM To

Re: Notes server finally available on Linux for 390!

2003-10-01 Thread David Boyes
> By the way, don't hold your breath for a Linux client. They > seem to think > the browser-based interface is good enough for us Visigoths. > I told them > "that stinks" without getting back any sympathy. :P Well, they told us that they wouldn't do a server, either -- it's just a matter of sack

Re: Notes server finally available on Linux for 390!

2003-10-01 Thread David Boyes
> I did it too several times with the same results... > But keep on complaining about it - perhaps one day... > Thorsten Hock Especially now that a Linux laptop preload is available for IBM field use. I think the WINE gadget they're using to run Notes internally now will prove to be a serious pain

Re: Notes server finally available on Linux for 390!

2003-10-01 Thread Thorsten Hock
> > I did it too several times with the same results... > > But keep on complaining about it - perhaps one day... > > Thorsten Hock > > Especially now that a Linux laptop preload is available for IBM field use. I > think the WINE gadget they're using to run Notes internally now will prove > to be a

Re: Notes server finally available on Linux for 390!

2003-10-01 Thread Jim Elliott
> By the way, don't hold your breath for a Linux client. They seem to > think the browser-based interface is good enough for us Visigoths. I > told them "that stinks" without getting back any sympathy. Mark: The current Notes client is very tied into the MS APIs. Porting it to any other platform

Re: Notes server finally available on Linux for 390!

2003-10-01 Thread Post, Mark K
Hmmm. I think that's what I said in the first place (although without the trailing "e".) :P Mark Post -Original Message- From: Jim Elliott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2003 2:03 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Notes server finally availab

Re: Notes server finally available on Linux for 390!

2003-10-01 Thread David Boyes
> Yepp - I installed it on my thinkpad and was surprised to > find a WINE-based > Notes-client. > This does not fit with our own Linux-client strategy at all. True. At least Lotus appears to listen when whacked hard enough. Other IBM divisions should be so cooperative...8-( (boy, I *am* cranky to

Re: Notes server finally available on Linux for 390!

2003-10-01 Thread David Goodenough
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Re: Notes server finally available on Linux for 390!

2003-10-01 Thread Thorsten Hock
> The current Notes client is very tied into the MS APIs. Porting > it to any other platform would be extremely difficult, and given the Mmmh, doesn´t sound so well for a company spreading the "open-standards" -paradigma... -- Mit freundlichen Gruessen/With kind regards Thorsten Hock Teamleite

Re: Notes server finally available on Linux for 390!

2003-10-01 Thread Rich Smrcina
I tried Notes under Wine with RHL9.0 and could not get it to install. On Wed, 2003-10-01 at 12:37, David Boyes wrote: > > I did it too several times with the same results... > > But keep on complaining about it - perhaps one day... > > Thorsten Hock > > Especially now that a Linux laptop preload i

Re: Notes server finally available on Linux for 390!

2003-10-01 Thread Thorsten Hock
> Now that inside IBM Notes under Wine is being used internally, it would be > really useful if the developers of the Notes Client could test their > product under Wine, and submit bug reports to the Wine developers. Since the IBM Linux client strategy is based on the Lotus iNotes product and the

Re: Notes server finally available on Linux for 390!

2003-10-01 Thread David Boyes
> The current Notes client is very tied into the MS APIs. Porting > it to any other platform would be extremely difficult, and given the > marketshare of Linux on desktops, not justifiable. It would be interesting to see how well one of the Windows API translation products that claim to take Windo

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2003-10-01 Thread James Melin
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2003-10-01 Thread David Goodenough
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2003-10-01 Thread Thorsten Hock
> I will tell this to you plainly, yon folks at IBM robust desktop > clients is one of the biggest things that is PREVENTING desktop adoption of > Linux. inotes, I think, will be too limited. We want a native > desktop client for Linux, believe me. To not do this is short sighted. I absolutely

Re: Notes server finally available on Linux for 390!

2003-10-01 Thread Dennis Wicks
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2003-10-01 Thread Rich Smrcina
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Re: Notes server finally available on Linux for 390!

2003-10-01 Thread Thorsten Hock
> As I was told a while back ... > > wine is not an emulator, it is an API! I expected that :-) Your right - but it does not fit anyhow. Quote from the IBM Linux client direction: "IBM should not recommend Windows API emulators such as WINE or CodeWeavers for the execution of non-Linux binary

Re: Notes server finally available on Linux for 390!

2003-10-01 Thread Jim Elliott
> iNotes is kind of clumsy, but I do have to say that the 6.x releases > are a LOT less nasty than previous WWW clients. Also, wasn't there a > AIX or Solaris client at one point? If so, that would be the place > to start, rather than with the Windows client. David: Yes, there was an AIX client f

Re: Notes server finally available on Linux for 390!

2003-10-01 Thread David Goodenough
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Re: Notes server finally available on Linux for 390!

2003-10-02 Thread Jim Sibley
"The current Notes client is very tied into the MS APIs. Porting it to any other platform would be extremely difficult, and given the marketshare of Linux on desktops, not justifiable. iNotes works just fine (except you have to be network connected I believe). Also, the Notes 6.0 and 6.5 clients wi

Re: Notes server finally available on Linux for 390!

2003-10-02 Thread Ryan Ware
> -Original Message- > From: Jim Sibley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2003 12:17 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Notes server finally available on Linux for 390! > > > "The current Notes client is very tied into the MS >

Re: Notes server finally available on Linux for 390!

2003-10-02 Thread Henry Schaffer
Ryan Ware writes: -- >> From: Jim Sibley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> ... >> That's a really curious statement, Jim. IBM, one of >> the biggest user of Notes Clients on PC's, one of the >> biggest advocates of Linux and the owner of Notes >> can't justify the work so that they can get rid of >> mic

Re: Notes server finally available on Linux for 390!

2003-10-02 Thread Ryan Ware
> -Original Message- > From: Henry Schaffer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2003 3:17 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Notes server finally available on Linux for 390! > > > Ryan Ware writes: > -- > >> From:

Re: Notes server finally available on Linux for 390!

2003-10-02 Thread Alan Cox
On Iau, 2003-10-02 at 18:16, Jim Sibley wrote: > "The current Notes client is very tied into the MS > APIs. Porting > it to any other platform would be extremely difficult, Stranger still when IBM seem to have shown people beta notes clients for Linux in the past

Re: Notes server finally available on Linux for 390!

2003-10-03 Thread John Summerfield
On Wed, 1 Oct 2003, Thorsten Hock wrote: > > > I did it too several times with the same results... > > > But keep on complaining about it - perhaps one day... > > > Thorsten Hock > > > > Especially now that a Linux laptop preload is available for IBM field > use. I > > think the WINE gadget they'r