Re: kernel fission was: msdos/umsdos support?

1999-02-11 Thread David Murn
On Thu, 11 Feb 1999, Dan Olson wrote: Huh? Not to open up a large can of worms here, but in my opinion the ONLY reason for ELKS is for something fun for its participants to do. The relative utility of 8086-class computers goes down every day. If you don't like it, then get off the

Re: kernel fission was: msdos/umsdos support?

1999-02-11 Thread Sven Utcke
Hello Leo, Just a lurker with a question and idea... Same here. How big is the minix code (x86 not source)? If it is big (relative to a _plain_ FAT) maybe the minix fs is not necessary? and memory could be freed by simplifying the filesystem? I understand the many limitations of FAT but

Re: kernel fission was: msdos/umsdos support?

1999-02-11 Thread David Given
On Wed, 10 Feb 1999, Steve Drake wrote: The reason I can see for ELKS is what first lead me to take an interest in it -- the "E" in ELKS stands for "Embeddable." For those looking for a free, open source, embeddable OS, check out: http://www.cygnus.com/ecos/ It does require a 32-bit (or

Re: kernel fission was: msdos/umsdos support?

1999-02-11 Thread ror4
[David Given:] UMSDOS is h u g e. While it *would* make ELKS easier to use, it would most likely use so much space you couldn't use it for everything. Remember you need the UMSDOS, MSDOS and FAT modules to make it work. If you *can* fit it in, it'd be wonderful; but I'd be surprised.

Re: kernel fission was: msdos/umsdos support?

1999-02-11 Thread ror4
[Leo Cyr:] Just a lurker with a question and idea... How big is the minix code (x86 not source)? If it is big (relative to a _plain_ FAT) maybe the minix fs is not necessary? and memory could be freed by simplifying the filesystem? I understand the many limitations of FAT but it appears

Re: kernel fission was: msdos/umsdos support?

1999-02-11 Thread David C.S. Prior
dg UMSDOS is h u g e. While it *would* make ELKS easier to use, it dg would most likely use so much space you couldn't use it for dg everything. Remember you need the UMSDOS, MSDOS and FAT modules to dg make it work. If you *can* fit it in, it'd be wonderful; but I'd be dg surprised. ror4

Re: kernel fission was: msdos/umsdos support?

1999-02-11 Thread Alistair Riddoch
Blaz Antonic writes: Thinking in the bath last night I came up with a way of building user space How romantic :-) We create a meta driver called something like the user device driver which has a whole load of generically named devices in /dev/udd0 -- /dev/uddn. It is a nice idea

Re: kernel fission was: msdos/umsdos support?

1999-02-11 Thread Jakob Eriksson
On Wed, 10 Feb 1999, Shane Kerr wrote: On Wed, 10 Feb 1999, Steve Drake wrote: The reason I can see for ELKS is what first lead me to take an interest in it -- the "E" in ELKS stands for "Embeddable." For those looking for a free, open source, embeddable OS, check out:

Re: kernel fission was: msdos/umsdos support?

1999-02-11 Thread Jakob Eriksson
On Thu, 11 Feb 1999, [big5] ª÷©÷²z wrote: The reason I can see for ELKS is what first lead me to take an interest in it -- the "E" in ELKS stands for "Embeddable." For those looking for a free, open source, embeddable OS, check out: http://www.cygnus.com/ecos/ It does require a 32-bit

Booting ELKS

1999-02-11 Thread Shane Kerr
I'm fairly excited about the plans to incorporate loadable device drivers in ELKS. Unfortunately, after I thought about it, they STILL won't help me get my HP 200LX booted. :( The problem is that there is neither a floppy drive nor a hard disc on the machine, which I believe ELKS requires to

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RE: kernel fission was: msdos/umsdos support?

1999-02-11 Thread Rod Boyce
If you want an embedded system you could also go for a micro-controller from the MCS51 family. It is time you UNIX bunnies realised that there is more to the world that UNIX. If it wasn't for small mocro-controllers we would not have a lot of the moderm electronic equipment. A small OS is very