Re: kernel fission was: msdos/umsdos support?

1999-02-11 Thread 金昌理
>> The reason I can see for ELKS is what first lead me to take an interest >> in it -- the "E" in ELKS stands for "Embeddable." > >For those looking for a free, open source, embeddable OS, check out: >http://www.cygnus.com/ecos/ >It does require a 32-bit (or 64-bit) processor, but AFAIK that's not

Re: kernel fission was: msdos/umsdos support?

1999-02-11 Thread Dan Olson
> Huh? Not to open up a large can of worms here, but in my opinion the ONLY > reason for ELKS is for something fun for its participants to do. The > relative utility of 8086-class computers goes down every day. Consider > that you can buy a used computer with a Pentium 60 with onboard video, >

Re: kernel fission was: msdos/umsdos support?

1999-02-11 Thread David Murn
On Thu, 11 Feb 1999, Dan Olson wrote: > > Huh? Not to open up a large can of worms here, but in my opinion the ONLY > > reason for ELKS is for something fun for its participants to do. The > > relative utility of 8086-class computers goes down every day. If you don't like it, then get off the

Re: kernel fission was: msdos/umsdos support?

1999-02-11 Thread Sven Utcke
Hello Leo, > Just a lurker with a question and idea... Same here. > How big is the minix code (x86 not source)? If it is big (relative to a > _plain_ FAT) maybe the minix fs is not necessary? and memory could be > freed by simplifying the filesystem? I understand the many limitations of > FAT

Re: kernel fission was: msdos/umsdos support?

1999-02-11 Thread David Given
>On Wed, 10 Feb 1999, Steve Drake wrote: > >> The reason I can see for ELKS is what first lead me to take an interest >> in it -- the "E" in ELKS stands for "Embeddable." > >For those looking for a free, open source, embeddable OS, check out: > >http://www.cygnus.com/ecos/ > >It does require a 32-

Re: kernel fission was: msdos/umsdos support?

1999-02-11 Thread ror4
[David Given:] > UMSDOS is h u g e. While it *would* make ELKS easier to use, it would most > likely use so much space you couldn't use it for everything. Remember you need > the UMSDOS, MSDOS and FAT modules to make it work. If you *can* fit it in, > it'd be wonderful; but I'd be surprised.

Re: kernel fission was: msdos/umsdos support?

1999-02-11 Thread ror4
[Leo Cyr:] > Just a lurker with a question and idea... > How big is the minix code (x86 not source)? If it is big (relative to a > _plain_ FAT) maybe the minix fs is not necessary? and memory could be > freed by simplifying the filesystem? I understand the many limitations of > FAT but it appea

Re: kernel fission was: msdos/umsdos support?

1999-02-11 Thread David C.S. Prior
dg > UMSDOS is h u g e. While it *would* make ELKS easier to use, it dg > would most likely use so much space you couldn't use it for dg > everything. Remember you need the UMSDOS, MSDOS and FAT modules to dg > make it work. If you *can* fit it in, it'd be wonderful; but I'd be dg > surprised. r

Re: kernel fission was: msdos/umsdos support?

1999-02-11 Thread Shane Kerr
On Thu, 11 Feb 1999, David C.S. Prior wrote: > Would it be possible to have a large file present in the root directory > of a FAT partition which was in fact an image of a Minix Filesystem. > That way, people could have ELKS co-existing with MS-DOS (or another > DOS) on the same hard drive. The

Re: kernel fission was: msdos/umsdos support?

1999-02-11 Thread Alistair Riddoch
Blaz Antonic writes: > > > Thinking in the bath last night I came up with a way of building user space > > How romantic :-) > > > We create a meta driver called something like the user device driver which > > has a whole load of generically named devices in /dev/udd0 -- /dev/udd. > > It is a n

Re: kernel fission was: msdos/umsdos support?

1999-02-11 Thread David Given
[...] >Would it be possible to have a large file present in the root directory of >a FAT partition which was in fact an image of a Minix Filesystem. That >way, people could have ELKS co-existing with MS-DOS (or another DOS) on >the same hard drive. The part of the code that read the Minix image

Re: kernel fission was: msdos/umsdos support?

1999-02-11 Thread Jakob Eriksson
On Wed, 10 Feb 1999, Shane Kerr wrote: > On Wed, 10 Feb 1999, Steve Drake wrote: > > > The reason I can see for ELKS is what first lead me to take an interest > > in it -- the "E" in ELKS stands for "Embeddable." > > For those looking for a free, open source, embeddable OS, check out: > > http

Re: kernel fission was: msdos/umsdos support?

1999-02-11 Thread Jakob Eriksson
On Thu, 11 Feb 1999, [big5] ª÷©÷²z wrote: > >> The reason I can see for ELKS is what first lead me to take an interest > >> in it -- the "E" in ELKS stands for "Embeddable." > > > >For those looking for a free, open source, embeddable OS, check out: > >http://www.cygnus.com/ecos/ > >It does requi

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1999-02-11 Thread Shane Kerr
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RE: kernel fission was: msdos/umsdos support?

1999-02-11 Thread Rod Boyce
If you want an embedded system you could also go for a micro-controller from the MCS51 family. It is time you UNIX bunnies realised that there is more to the world that UNIX. If it wasn't for small mocro-controllers we would not have a lot of the moderm electronic equipment. A small OS is very i