I would be very surprised if the intensity of discussion stopped you
from releasing your work on session management to the public domain.
In fact I might even eat my hat if that happened... :-)
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be very disappointed if no further
work was done on session management.
I am looking forward to the progress that will be made over the next
couple of years on that front.
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LMMS is an integrated environment and having Zyn inside it is great.
LMMS
th available for usb-2.0 and they are
both used by Belkin.
My experience with usb cable lengths > 3 meters is that they require a
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t it looks like the next step is to
define the best way to connect external audio i/o to the device.
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or this or we can go with one of the many
existing free services.
If someone wish to contract me to work on this, I'd be happy, but
that is not a requirement.
I can contribute funds but cannot afford to fund the project completely.
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ood reason for not including support for a
usb-1.0/2.0/3.0 interface seeing as we can write the driver ourselves
and adhere to the standard?
Most chipsets these days have support for both port types. It would be
very useful if the schematic provided tracks for both ootb.
BTW, I will be able to contribute development funds towards this project
if required once we have a BoM.
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On 11/22/2009 05:21 AM, Rui Nuno Capela wrote:
> On 11/21/2009 06:11 PM, Patrick Shirkey wrote:
>
>> On 11/22/2009 02:36 AM, Rui Nuno Capela wrote:
>>
>>>> LADI represents a very powerful and flexible session management system
>>>> that h
ack like an abstract audio output, and getting a jack signal up to the
> gui layers where the invokation of save is generally happening is a bit
> cumbersome.
>
> so far i have only patched oom and ardour. and ardour doesnt quit yet,
> when requested.
>
> well... tell me what
On 11/22/2009 02:36 AM, Rui Nuno Capela wrote:
> On 11/21/2009 02:47 PM, Patrick Shirkey wrote:
>
>> On 11/21/2009 10:13 PM, Rui Nuno Capela wrote:
>>
>>> On 11/21/2009 05:18 AM, Patrick Shirkey wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> One maj
On 11/22/2009 01:45 AM, Paul Davis wrote:
> On Sat, Nov 21, 2009 at 12:18 AM, Patrick Shirkey
> wrote:
>
>
>> Nedko has chosen to work with dbus and has provided a very flexible
>> system built on that decision. However his approach is not acceptable
>> for
On 11/21/2009 10:13 PM, Rui Nuno Capela wrote:
> On 11/21/2009 05:18 AM, Patrick Shirkey wrote:
>
>> One major item of note is that qjackctl now has preliminary dbus support
>> even though Rui has stated that it would not happen. This step in itself
>> should be cl
p in itself
should be clear a major roadblock to LADI integration and deployment.
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ot; on or developing around to achieve their goals.
I personally see Nedkos work as extremely valuable so I will be making
some time for testing and feedback.
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ovide a template, would anyone be willing to put together
> these documents? I will gladly write the tool if the data is there, and
> the problem will be solved, and a convention set that solves it in the
> future with basically no effort involved.
>
>
I will work on the docs
a template for every language and tool set that can be used to
build an ui that a busy but interested developer can quickly slot into
their own project with minimum tweaking will be a major step towards
opening up compatibility and getting more applications and ui's built.
On 11/08/2009 03:31 PM, Gabriel M. Beddingfield wrote:
>
>
> On Sun, 8 Nov 2009, Patrick Shirkey wrote:
>
>> Would a set of reference template code written for the various languages
>> that we have at our disposal be of any use here?
>
> I don't think so.
On 11/08/2009 08:37 AM, Gabriel M. Beddingfield wrote:
> On Sat, 7 Nov 2009, David Robillard wrote:
>
>
>> A better analogy would be well-formed XML or RDF, where things can
>> easily be added but it doesn't break anything because the technology has
>> been designed specifically to handle this
experience a
nuclear holocaust or other mass extinction event.
These two steps above could easily be completed by the end of the week
if everyone who has an interest in seeing LV2 gain wider adoption
pitches in.
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and
the developer documentation that is provided but perhaps others can make
suggestions of the most useful documentation features they have found
while developing for alternate plugin systems?
However I have been working with borland, visual studio and xcode and
found several common documentation
On 11/02/2009 08:06 AM, David Robillard wrote:
> On Mon, 2009-11-02 at 07:13 +1100, Patrick Shirkey wrote:
>
>
>> FWIW, I will try to bring this information out in a simple manner on the
>> wiki. If anyone has the time to think of a detailed method for handling
>>
On 11/02/2009 07:49 AM, David Robillard wrote:
> On Mon, 2009-11-02 at 07:10 +1100, Patrick Shirkey wrote:
>
>> On 11/02/2009 03:11 AM, David Robillard wrote:
>>
>>> On Sun, 2009-11-01 at 12:09 +1100, Patrick Shirkey wrote:
>>>
>>>
gt;> you'll figure that out when things don't work."
>>
> The host has all the information needed to report this explicitly to the
> user (you can't use plugin foo because this program doesn't suppor
On 11/02/2009 03:11 AM, David Robillard wrote:
> On Sun, 2009-11-01 at 12:09 +1100, Patrick Shirkey wrote:
>
>> I'm not sure what the limitations of the existing system are but in
>> general having a central location where all extensions are collated with
>> expli
On 11/01/2009 02:38 PM, Paul Davis wrote:
> On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 9:09 PM, Patrick Shirkey
> wrote:
>
> [ ... stuff ]
>
> the idea occured to me sometime today.
>
> "my host supports LV2-E1"
> "my plugin requires LV2-E2"
> "t
On 11/01/2009 10:19 AM, Gabriel M. Beddingfield wrote:
>
>
> On Sun, 1 Nov 2009, Patrick Shirkey wrote:
>
>> So, maybe it would be a good use of time to resolve this inadequacy as a
>> priority before moving onto other items?
>
> Doesn't VST do it through bran
let's make
> that huge leap and pretend it is - then this same situation would exist.
> Feature foo needs to be implemented by a host regardless. The
> difference is, with a monolithic specification feature foo not being
> implemented by the host means that host doesn't supp
ript but don't get any syncing with ardour and blender.
Anyone else done this and have an idea of what I could be missing?
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Surely this particular issue can be disabled?
Dbus support is critical to making sure jack2 and pulse audio work
together ootb without having to use a workaround loader script.
I thought, I also read that it's a compile time option too so if you
don't particularly want it then you can
sktop environemtn that communicates
with jack.
I'm am very interested in seeing this happen and I think it can be tied
into the lash/ladish system too.
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any DE . The goal is to combine the advantages of the "all-in one
> audio app" and of a multiple applications workflow.
>
>
Can I confirm that an app that was able to tell the wm how to position
the session would also suffice which is what Nedkos goals are iiuc?
Cheers.
ve. In my mind it is a logical and
inevitable feature that will give desktop users a game like graphical
management option they can play with and get excited about.
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> Regards
>
> Florent
>
>
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hat occurred to me last night.
- If using skype consider purchasing a usb phone and using that as the
audio interface instead of relying on the onboard sound device as it
will probably make your life easier.
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- A distribution should attempt to run jack
On 08/11/2009 04:42 AM, Jens M Andreasen wrote:
On Tue, 2009-08-11 at 04:14 +1000, Patrick Shirkey wrote:
As a comparison on my 64 bit version of Gnome I find the default theme
to be very responsive...
As a comparison, the machine I have today is the equivalent of a Cray2 -
the
UNIX always by default configured in the least useful
way?
I'm sure that someone is getting their kicks out of it.
As a comparison on my 64 bit version of Gnome I find the default theme
to be very responsive...
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Indeed ;)
lease ensure the 32 bit libraries for
alsa, jack and pulseaudio are installed by default.
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On 08/10/2009 05:14 PM, Jens M Andreasen wrote:
On Mon, 2009-08-10 at 15:22 +1000, Patrick Shirkey wrote:
"PAE is required for NX support, and furthermore enables larger
swapspace support for non-overcommit purposes. It has the cost of more
pagetable lookup overhead, and also con
eem like it would be particularly difficult to build.
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LAD?
BTW, it would be interesting to get some real world feedback from anyone
who has this enabled already on a 32 bit platform.
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st the is so
frustrating. It's like we are behind the curve in many ways.
I really think we can do better and making some official recommendations
specific to audio config on 64 bit other than "don't use 64 bit" or
specific to working with audio apps other "than disab
On 08/10/2009 12:56 AM, Robin Gareus wrote:
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Patrick Shirkey wrote:
On 08/09/2009 10:35 PM, Kjetil S. Matheussen wrote:
On Sun, 9 Aug 2009, Patrick Shirkey wrote:
On 08/09/2009 10:12 PM, Kjetil S. Matheussen wrote
On 08/09/2009 10:35 PM, Kjetil S. Matheussen wrote:
>
>
> On Sun, 9 Aug 2009, Patrick Shirkey wrote:
>
>>
>> On 08/09/2009 10:12 PM, Kjetil S. Matheussen wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, 9 Aug 2009, Patrick Shirkey wrote:
>>>
>>>>
On 08/09/2009 10:12 PM, Kjetil S. Matheussen wrote:
>
>
> On Sun, 9 Aug 2009, Patrick Shirkey wrote:
>
>>
>> On 08/09/2009 08:12 PM, Kjetil S. Matheussen wrote:
>>> Patrick Shirkey:
>>>
>>>> On 08/08/2009 09:57 PM, Jens M Andreasen wrote:
On 08/09/2009 08:12 PM, Kjetil S. Matheussen wrote:
Patrick Shirkey:
On 08/08/2009 09:57 PM, Jens M Andreasen wrote:
On Sat, 2009-08-08 at 16:44 +1000, Patrick Shirkey wrote:
Here's what I have found after extensive testing with the latest dev
version of pulse
On 08/09/2009 06:10 AM, Raymond Martin wrote:
On Saturday 08 August 2009 15:49:08 Patrick Shirkey wrote:
On 08/09/2009 05:44 AM, drew Roberts wrote:
On Saturday 08 August 2009 14:25:37 Patrick Shirkey wrote:
Sorry but how exactly is this different from a fork? Is there a
On 08/09/2009 06:05 AM, Raymond Martin wrote:
On Saturday 08 August 2009 15:44:41 drew Roberts wrote:
On Saturday 08 August 2009 14:25:37 Patrick Shirkey wrote:
Sorry but how exactly is this different from a fork? Is there a guide
that you have read somewhere that explains the
On 08/09/2009 05:44 AM, drew Roberts wrote:
On Saturday 08 August 2009 14:25:37 Patrick Shirkey wrote:
Sorry but how exactly is this different from a fork? Is there a guide
that you have read somewhere that explains the exact steps required for
making a fork? Why have you now decided that
which
time they had been made pretty much bankrupt.
Although IIRC in the end they won and McD's had to pay out instead.
So maybe it's worth the effort.
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binary and the code that goes with as well as
making (minor) changes to the code including attributing copyright to
the various original authors in a way that wasn't done with the version
of the application that you reverse engineered and that is not a fork?
What is a fork if not all the
t was selfish.
You are putting the words in your own mouth here. There's no need to
suggest this even as a joke. I certainly haven't suggested it is the case.
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now you are risking your rep by making a stand on a name that you didn't
originate and therefore shouldn't feel any real attachment to.
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On 08/08/2009 09:57 PM, Jens M Andreasen wrote:
On Sat, 2009-08-08 at 16:44 +1000, Patrick Shirkey wrote:
Here's what I have found after extensive testing with the latest dev
version of pulseaudio-v0.9.16-4 and jack-0.116.1 on a 2 core amd, 4GB
notebook running Fedora 11.
1. 32 bit
s just for Linux applications.
Yes.
This is the correct way to approach Linux lists.
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On 08/08/2009 08:10 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
Ralf Mardorf wrote:
Apropos wasting resources. A lot of Linux audio applications don't
have EQs by default for the channels of a mixer, we need to add 20
LADSPA EQs to 20 channels. There might be OS X and Windows
applications that come with an EQ
d it.
However we also have jackbridge and that works very well for
transmission with energyXT and VSTHost.
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null sink/source, starts the real jackd and then loads
the jack-sink/source. It would also have to take care of the reverse
when jack is stopped.
I think it would be good if we can get some consensus on the officially
endorsed approach.
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On 08/06/2009 11:24 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
>
>
> Btw. Patrick, please run ntpdate or sntp, it's hard to puzzle your
> replies into the right order.
>
Gnome issue with time setting...
Thanks for pointing it out.
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On 08/06/2009 07:01 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> Patrick Shirkey wrote:
>> If you don't stop trolling and continually harping on about how you
>> find Microsoft is easier to work with and Linux Audio has lots of
>> problems without actually contributing anything usefu
On 08/06/2009 06:34 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> Patrick Shirkey wrote:
>> Many people use Linux Audio tools and infrastructure for professional
>> use everyday.
>
> Yes, less than 1% of all users are using Linux and this are many
> people, because for audio there are m
LAD list? We know
that there are limitations to the Linux Audio system. No one has ever
claimed otherwise.
Because you very rarely have useful feedback, as far as I can tell, you
are a troll.
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For flame-wars please reply off-list ;). I'll ignore it :).
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It's probably a
very simple oversight somewhere.
I'm gonna spend some time now to test my system and see if I can
reproduce it.
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interaction between pulse and jack and be done with it.
It's harmful to suggest that it things are less than they are as it just
makes people who have already invested a lot of effort get annoyed and
turned off.
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On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 8:58 PM, Michael Fisher wrote:
Everybody,
Good. I wasn't really trying to get Beat Kangz in trouble or anything
like that. More
Hi,
I have been using an asus board with intel core quad cpu q6600 for about
a year now with no hassles.
Does have a fairly noisy fan but I haven't actually looked into
replacing it with a quieter system.
I have found asus boards to be very compatible with Linux and especially
my audio needs
On Sunday 02 August 2009 16:31:55 Patrick Shirkey wrote:
On Sunday 02 August 2009 15:49:52 you wrote:
Any damage that resulted, real or imagined, can be traced back to the
originators release practices in not complying fully with the GPL. If all
things had been done to comply from the
On Sunday 02 August 2009 15:49:52 Patrick Shirkey wrote:
On Sun, Aug 2, 2009 at 8:25 AM, Patrick Shirkey
mailto:pshir...@boosthardware.com>> wrote:
This whole problem could have been solved if you had originally
provided Ray with access to the source when he asked for i
On Sun, Aug 2, 2009 at 8:25 AM, Patrick Shirkey
mailto:pshir...@boosthardware.com>> wrote:
This whole problem could have been solved if you had originally
provided Ray with access to the source when he asked for it, but
in essence you should be making your code available fr
On 08/02/2009 08:41 PM, Arnold Krille wrote:
On Sunday 02 August 2009 18:22:56 Patrick Shirkey wrote:
On 08/02/2009 08:14 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
Arnold Krille wrote:
If you didn't sign a contract and work on a project, the
copyright is still yours
Are you
release.
In other words, the aim of the game is to shame the player who tries to
go against the principals of the GPL.
That, AFAICT, is the last resort of the GPL before a full scale legal
attack is launched.
Effectively this works out to:
1: Play nice an
r code
or linked to in a way that makes it a part of your codebase in a legal
definition of any licenses that are attributed to code that you have
used or linked with.
phew.
This is why gpl is so much simpler and loved.
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On 08/02/2009 07:25 PM, Dave Phillips wrote:
> Greetings,
>
> Just out of curiosity, how many participants in this discussion are
> copyright holders ? How many of you have published works under copyright ?
>
>
>
From my count it's about 90% of respondents so f
On 08/02/2009 06:51 AM, Robert Keller wrote:
On Aug 1, 2009, at 4:04 PM, nescivi wrote:
On Saturday 01 August 2009 13:36:20 lase...@gmail.com wrote:
On Saturday 01 August 2009 11:32:24 nescivi wrote:
On Wednesday 29 July 2009 00:49:09 David Robillard wrote:
The r
On 07/19/2009 07:29 PM, Arnout Engelen wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Looking for a distribution-agnostic, community-maintained place for gathering
> linuxaudio-related documentation, wiki.linuxaudio.org seems to be one of the
> main resources.
>
> The visual style seemed a bit old-fashioned and cluttered. I to
making someone upset ;-)
Actually I think the opposite is working this list has been very quiet
for months now. This recent flare up was unusual...
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become more so in the past few years.
Lest we recall the eruption over getting lv2 into reactor or whatever
that app was.
Maybe it's because we are all that much busier these days that it's
harder to find the time to edit our responses
On 06/24/2009 09:26 AM, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> Patrick Shirkey wrote:
>>
>> On 06/24/2009 02:31 AM, Dennis Schulmeister wrote:
>>> On Tue, 2009-06-23 at 12:19 +0100, Krzysztof Foltman wrote:
>>>> Patrick Shirkey wrote:
>>>>> As a point of inte
On 06/24/2009 02:31 AM, Dennis Schulmeister wrote:
On Tue, 2009-06-23 at 12:19 +0100, Krzysztof Foltman wrote:
Patrick Shirkey wrote:
As a point of interest and comparison that has very little to do with
this debate, I just noticed that pulseaudio *is* being used in the Palm Pre
be solved in the future if
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It's reasonable that any user who knows exactly what they want and how
to get it is going to find it annoying to be presented with a sound
server th
On 06/23/2009 06:02 PM, alex stone wrote:
On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 2:33 PM, Patrick
Shirkey wrote:
On 06/22/2009 04:20 PM, Chris Cannam wrote:
On Sun, Jun 21, 2009 at 4:09 PM, Paul Davis
wrote:
Finally, as Chris said -
many of us are writing apps that target multiple platforms
Well
odd one out for me.
As a point of interest and comparison that has very little to do with
this debate, I just noticed that pulseaudio *is* being used in the Palm Pre
http://opensource.palm.com/packages.html
While Jack and Portaudio are not.
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are to the existing sytem that has
been devised by the "Geniuses" at ...(insert your favorite sound system
here)
Ralf. I would really love to hear a conclusive rebuttal from you.. After
four years. (is it really that long?) I think we are owed a conclusive
response.
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to uninstall it as quickly as possible.
>
>
I agree that many people get confused at this point. However not many
people are prepared to uninstall due to the associated issues with
removing deps. Especially a dep as important as jack.
It's also misleading to refer to the exi
y to
completely bypass that step so if the new phase can be made accessible
with very little (as in no) learning curve for existing users then we
should be able to move forward without any pain.
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> Le 19 mai 09 à 12:37, Rui Nuno Capela a écrit :
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>>
>> On Tue, May 19, 2009 10:32, Stéphane Letz wrote:
(there are two 5)'s above but i'll refer to the first one)
i vote for the 5) auto-start strategy. user selects which one he/she
prefers.
Nedko Arnaudov wrote:
> Stéphane Letz writes:
>
>
>> First we have to get a consensus on this "runtime choice of auto-start
>> strategy", then we'll have to find the best way to implement it.
>>
>
> I was against mixed jack1/jack2 and i'm against the runtime choice
> now. IMHO it complic
u
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I think this would solve many problems that people encounter when using
pulseaudio with an internal card and a usb device.
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>> In the spirit of organizing a well executed Awards ceremony and due to
>> lack of interest from the business community in sponsoring the inaugural
>> Linux Audio Awards for 2009 I
Conference in 2010.
Hopefully conditions will be more suitable for sponsors to get involved
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Hi,
I have a smallish paid in cash contract available for someone with solid
Joomla dev experience to work on over the next couple of months.
Please contact me off list for more details if you are available.
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posal in the next two weeks.
The idea is to present a small number of sponsored awards to the
category winners at the LAC.
I'm also considering doing a couple of presentations but I have not
cleared funding approval for the trip yet.
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Patrick Shirkey wrote:
> On Tue, 2008-11-11 at 23:30 -0600, David M. Creswick wrote:
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>> On Tue, 11 Nov 2008 09:53:17 +0700
>> Patrick Shirkey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Joern Nettingsmeier wrote:
>>>
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On Tue, 2008-11-11 at 23:30 -0600, David M. Creswick wrote:
> On Tue, 11 Nov 2008 09:53:17 +0700
> Patrick Shirkey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Joern Nettingsmeier wrote:
> > > Patrick Shirkey wrote:
> > >
> > >> Hi,
> > >>
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