[LAD] [ANN] IR: LV2 convolution reverb 1.2.2 1.3.2

2012-07-02 Thread Tom Szilagyi
IR: LV2 Convolution Reverb http://factorial.hu/plugins/lv2/ir IR is a no-latency/low-latency, realtime, high performance signal convolver plugin especially for creating reverb effects. This is a much overdue maintenance release with two versions under the dual versioning scheme: 1.2.2 in the

Re: [LAD] [ANN] IR: LV2 Convolution Reverb

2011-02-27 Thread Thomas Vecchione
Yes film and TV post is where I have heard of it being more useful, but since I just got up I will leave that for the moment until my brain is more awake;) Fons replied off list and we discussed his example some, The situations was similar to what i had thought, where a 4 point edit was one

Re: [LAD] [ANN] IR: LV2 Convolution Reverb

2011-02-27 Thread Fons Adriaensen
On Sun, Feb 27, 2011 at 06:21:29AM -0500, Thomas Vecchione wrote: Fons replied off list and we discussed his example some, The situations was similar to what i had thought, where a 4 point edit was one possible way to do it, but far from the only.solution, and probably wouldn't be what I

Re: [LAD] [ANN] IR: LV2 Convolution Reverb

2011-02-25 Thread Fons Adriaensen
On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 01:42:46AM +0100, Jens M Andreasen wrote: On Fri, 2011-02-25 at 00:34 +, Fons Adriaensen wrote: I learned that 'ingen' is Swedish for 'no, nobody, nothing' or similar... Nobody it is. Tack :-) Also noticed 'ingen fara' - no problem and 'ingen aning' - no

Re: [LAD] [ANN] IR: LV2 Convolution Reverb

2011-02-25 Thread Jens M Andreasen
On Fri, 2011-02-25 at 11:28 +, Fons Adriaensen wrote: Also noticed 'ingen fara' - no problem and 'ingen aning' - no idea. In a compound statement, yes And then You have the Scottish Gaelic inghean from Old Irish ingen meaning daughter which might be related to the Swedish/Norwegian

Re: [LAD] [ANN] IR: LV2 Convolution Reverb

2011-02-25 Thread David Robillard
On Fri, 2011-02-25 at 00:34 +, Fons Adriaensen wrote: On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 06:47:10PM -0500, David Robillard wrote: On Thu, 2011-02-24 at 21:39 +, Fons Adriaensen wrote: On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 12:20:44AM +0300, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote: [...] This is an error that any

Re: [LAD] [ANN] IR: LV2 Convolution Reverb

2011-02-25 Thread Paul Giblock
Clear your cookies and try again. Google must know you are involved in Linux Audio ;) On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 1:01 PM, Alexandre Prokoudine alexandre.prokoud...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 8:50 PM, David Robillard wrote: It's also the company in Jurassic Park. One day I'll make

Re: [LAD] [ANN] IR: LV2 Convolution Reverb

2011-02-24 Thread Fons Adriaensen
On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 07:41:56PM -0500, Paul Davis wrote: and to answer that question: what happened was huge great boatloads of data that need to be shovelled around between all the relevant components, complicated synchronization in both the backend models and the user interfaces of all

Re: [LAD] [ANN] IR: LV2 Convolution Reverb

2011-02-24 Thread Fons Adriaensen
On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 05:11:33PM -0500, David Robillard wrote: Entirely Redland free. I hand-wrote a Turtle parser and serialiser. In short, it's been a PITA for everyone in numerous ways since day one. Congratulations. I mean it. This is probably the best move in the entire history of

Re: [LAD] [ANN] IR: LV2 Convolution Reverb

2011-02-24 Thread Thorsten Wilms
On 02/24/2011 12:43 PM, Fons Adriaensen wrote: It's also foolish to suggest that the 'all inclusive universal DAW' will cater for those needs - just ignore what you don't use etc. It most definitely does *not* because it's by no means as universal as you may think, but rather the reflection of

Re: [LAD] [ANN] IR: LV2 Convolution Reverb

2011-02-24 Thread Jörn Nettingsmeier
On 02/24/2011 12:43 PM, Fons Adriaensen wrote: Spending some money on Protools is not really different to doing the same for a kilometer of microphone cable or some XLR plugs. imnsho, this simile only holds if you intend to hang yourself with the microphone cable.

Re: [LAD] [ANN] IR: LV2 Convolution Reverb

2011-02-24 Thread Jörn Nettingsmeier
On 02/24/2011 12:47 PM, Fons Adriaensen wrote: On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 05:11:33PM -0500, David Robillard wrote: Entirely Redland free. I hand-wrote a Turtle parser and serialiser. In short, it's been a PITA for everyone in numerous ways since day one. Congratulations. I mean it. seconded.

Re: [LAD] [ANN] IR: LV2 Convolution Reverb

2011-02-24 Thread Paul Davis
On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 6:43 AM, Fons Adriaensen f...@linuxaudio.org wrote: On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 07:41:56PM -0500, Paul Davis wrote: and to answer that question: what happened was huge great boatloads of data that need to be shovelled around between all the relevant components, complicated

Re: [LAD] [ANN] IR: LV2 Convolution Reverb

2011-02-24 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 2:43 PM, Fons Adriaensen wrote: There's no doubt that many users or potential users want the 'all integrated' DAW combining audio, sequencing, invasive effects, etc. required to produce a particular type of music (and some other content, e.g. ads) that happens to have

Re: [LAD] [ANN] IR: LV2 Convolution Reverb

2011-02-24 Thread Paul Davis
On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 8:07 AM, Alexandre Prokoudine alexandre.prokoud...@gmail.com wrote: http://createdigitalmusic.com/2011/02/the-79-virtual-analog-console-now-on-both-mac-and-linux-harrison-mixbus/ Coming from the rarified world of high-end audio systems, we recognized a lot of the same

Re: [LAD] [ANN] IR: LV2 Convolution Reverb

2011-02-24 Thread Fons Adriaensen
On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 04:07:41PM +0300, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote: On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 2:43 PM, Fons Adriaensen wrote: There's no doubt that many users or potential users want the 'all integrated' DAW combining audio, sequencing, invasive effects, etc. required to produce a

Re: [LAD] [ANN] IR: LV2 Convolution Reverb

2011-02-24 Thread Fons Adriaensen
On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 08:02:21AM -0500, Paul Davis wrote: i don't agree with you that its about a type of music. it is about the difference between some different ways of producing music, and not just two of them. there are certainly approaches to making music that are not well served by a

Re: [LAD] [ANN] IR: LV2 Convolution Reverb

2011-02-24 Thread Paul Davis
On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 10:23 AM, Fons Adriaensen f...@linuxaudio.org wrote: On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 08:02:21AM -0500, Paul Davis wrote: i don't agree with you that its about a type of music. it is about the difference between some different ways of producing music, and not just two of them.

Re: [LAD] [ANN] IR: LV2 Convolution Reverb

2011-02-24 Thread torbenh
On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 11:17:17AM -0500, Paul Davis wrote: On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 10:23 AM, Fons Adriaensen f...@linuxaudio.org wrote: On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 08:02:21AM -0500, Paul Davis wrote: Well, I could pay or I could offer my time as a developer. During the last five years I have

Re: [LAD] [ANN] IR: LV2 Convolution Reverb

2011-02-24 Thread Paul Davis
On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 11:28 AM, torbenh torb...@gmx.de wrote: On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 11:17:17AM -0500, Paul Davis wrote: On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 10:23 AM, Fons Adriaensen f...@linuxaudio.org wrote: On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 08:02:21AM -0500, Paul Davis wrote: Well, I could pay or I could

Re: [LAD] [ANN] IR: LV2 Convolution Reverb

2011-02-24 Thread Fons Adriaensen
On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 11:17:17AM -0500, Paul Davis wrote: what you don't know (because you're not on IRC) is the question of N-point editing comes up a lot. i (and others) have argued (in my opinion quite successfully) that four point editing is a relic of an older workflow. others who have

Re: [LAD] [ANN] IR: LV2 Convolution Reverb

2011-02-24 Thread David Robillard
On Thu, 2011-02-24 at 11:47 +, Fons Adriaensen wrote: On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 05:11:33PM -0500, David Robillard wrote: Entirely Redland free. I hand-wrote a Turtle parser and serialiser. In short, it's been a PITA for everyone in numerous ways since day one. Congratulations. I

Re: [LAD] [ANN] IR: LV2 Convolution Reverb

2011-02-24 Thread David Robillard
On Thu, 2011-02-24 at 13:08 +0100, Thorsten Wilms wrote: On 02/24/2011 12:43 PM, Fons Adriaensen wrote: It's also foolish to suggest that the 'all inclusive universal DAW' will cater for those needs - just ignore what you don't use etc. It most definitely does *not* because it's by no

Re: [LAD] [ANN] IR: LV2 Convolution Reverb

2011-02-24 Thread Paul Davis
On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 11:46 AM, Fons Adriaensen f...@linuxaudio.org wrote: On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 11:17:17AM -0500, Paul Davis wrote: what you don't know (because you're not on IRC) is the question of N-point editing comes up a lot. i (and others) have argued (in my opinion quite

Re: [LAD] [ANN] IR: LV2 Convolution Reverb

2011-02-24 Thread Jörn Nettingsmeier
On 02/24/2011 06:39 PM, Paul Davis wrote: well, panners in a3 are now plugins, of a fashion (they are a bit different from normal plugin APIs for a variety of reasons, primarily the fact that they never do in-place processing). its quite likely that at least the simplest of your ambi LADSPA

Re: [LAD] [ANN] IR: LV2 Convolution Reverb

2011-02-24 Thread Arnold Krille
On Thursday 24 February 2011 18:09:19 David Robillard wrote: To resolve this situation, we now have an exciting new Clippy inspired assistant that hops around your screen begging you to add MIDI tracks constantly. Will you call it ardourino? If, after 20 minutes, you have still not created a

Re: [LAD] [ANN] IR: LV2 Convolution Reverb

2011-02-24 Thread Paul Davis
On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 1:35 PM, Arnold Krille arn...@arnoldarts.de You couldn't get the rights to use the amen-break for this? dude we don't use no breaks unless its when the levee breaks, is that clear? problem is, jimmy and the boys in zep wouldn't clear the sample for us, so ... we're

Re: [LAD] [ANN] IR: LV2 Convolution Reverb

2011-02-24 Thread Michael Bechard
:39 PM Subject: Re: [LAD] [ANN] IR: LV2 Convolution Reverb On Thursday 24 February 2011 18:09:19 David Robillard wrote: To resolve this situation, we now have an exciting new Clippy inspired assistant that hops around your screen begging you to add MIDI tracks constantly. Will you call

Re: [LAD] [ANN] IR: LV2 Convolution Reverb

2011-02-24 Thread Harry Van Haaren
On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 6:49 PM, Michael Bechard gothma...@yahoo.comwrote: The amen break has no rights attached to it. It was a gift from the gods. Now whether or not those gods love or hate us is another matter... As far as I know the Winstons own the copyright (well... used to anyway, it

Re: [LAD] [ANN] IR: LV2 Convolution Reverb

2011-02-24 Thread Michael Bechard
@lists.linuxaudio.org Sent: Thu, February 24, 2011 2:11:20 PM Subject: Re: [LAD] [ANN] IR: LV2 Convolution Reverb On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 6:49 PM, Michael Bechard gothma...@yahoo.com wrote: The amen break has no rights attached to it. It was a gift from the gods. Now whether or not those gods love or hate

Re: [LAD] [ANN] IR: LV2 Convolution Reverb

2011-02-24 Thread drew Roberts
On Thursday 24 February 2011 12:09:19 David Robillard wrote: This is, of course, a big problem in terms of our greater mission to provide software that caters to the needs of precisely nobody while irritating everybody else. To resolve this situation, we now have an exciting new Clippy

Re: [LAD] [ANN] IR: LV2 Convolution Reverb

2011-02-24 Thread Fons Adriaensen
On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 12:39:04PM -0500, Paul Davis wrote: the position that i take with N-point editing is not that there is some other way to do the following. There isn't. its that the way of approaching the task that leads to needing to do the following is rooted in an older way of

Re: [LAD] [ANN] IR: LV2 Convolution Reverb

2011-02-24 Thread Paul Davis
On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 3:45 PM, Fons Adriaensen f...@linuxaudio.org wrote: On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 12:39:04PM -0500, Paul Davis wrote: the position that i take with N-point editing is not that there is some other way to do the following. There isn't. its that the way of approaching the task

Re: [LAD] [ANN] IR: LV2 Convolution Reverb

2011-02-24 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On 2/24/11, Fons Adriaensen wrote: the position that i take with N-point editing is not that there is some other way to do the following. There isn't. its that the way of approaching the task that leads to needing to do the following is rooted in an older way of thinking about the overall

Re: [LAD] [ANN] IR: LV2 Convolution Reverb

2011-02-24 Thread Fons Adriaensen
On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 12:20:44AM +0300, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote: You know, I find this kind of attitude quite dangerous. What attitude ? JAMin developers not having clue, Didn't write that. Ardour developers not having and clue About one very specfic issue. This is an error that

Re: [LAD] [ANN] IR: LV2 Convolution Reverb

2011-02-24 Thread Fons Adriaensen
On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 04:12:58PM -0500, Paul Davis wrote: On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 3:45 PM, Fons Adriaensen f...@linuxaudio.org wrote: On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 12:39:04PM -0500, Paul Davis wrote: the position that i take with N-point editing is not that there is some other way to do the

Re: [LAD] [ANN] IR: LV2 Convolution Reverb

2011-02-24 Thread Nick Copeland
+ From: f...@linuxaudio.org To: p...@linuxaudiosystems.com CC: linux-audio-dev@lists.linuxaudio.org Subject: Re: [LAD] [ANN] IR: LV2 Convolution Reverb On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 04:12:58PM -0500, Paul Davis wrote: On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 3:45 PM, Fons Adriaensen f...@linuxaudio.org

Re: [LAD] [ANN] IR: LV2 Convolution Reverb

2011-02-24 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On 2/25/11, Fons Adriaensen wrote: You know, I find this kind of attitude quite dangerous. What attitude ? See below. JAMin developers not having clue, Didn't write that. *sigh* Really? 'True. After all those years none of the 'DSP experts' developing Jamin has noticed anything wrong

Re: [LAD] [ANN] IR: LV2 Convolution Reverb

2011-02-24 Thread Fons Adriaensen
On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 01:05:03AM +0300, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote: 'True. After all those years none of the 'DSP experts' developing Jamin has noticed anything wrong when listening to it (it's quite obvious actually), let alone done a simple measurement that could have revealed this

Re: [LAD] [ANN] IR: LV2 Convolution Reverb

2011-02-24 Thread David Robillard
On Thu, 2011-02-24 at 21:39 +, Fons Adriaensen wrote: On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 12:20:44AM +0300, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote: [...] This is an error that any DSP student is allowed to make once. This is absolutely true for the one I referred to. As absolutely true as when I say the

Re: [LAD] [ANN] IR: LV2 Convolution Reverb

2011-02-24 Thread Fons Adriaensen
On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 06:47:10PM -0500, David Robillard wrote: On Thu, 2011-02-24 at 21:39 +, Fons Adriaensen wrote: On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 12:20:44AM +0300, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote: [...] This is an error that any DSP student is allowed to make once. This is absolutely true

Re: [LAD] [ANN] IR: LV2 Convolution Reverb

2011-02-24 Thread Jens M Andreasen
On Fri, 2011-02-25 at 00:34 +, Fons Adriaensen wrote: I learned that 'ingen' is Swedish for 'no, nobody, nothing' or similar... Nobody it is. -- Brand new stockings http://mx44.linux.dk/notturno/brand_new_stockings.mp3 ___ Linux-audio-dev

Re: [LAD] [ANN] IR: LV2 Convolution Reverb

2011-02-23 Thread David Robillard
On Wed, 2011-02-23 at 12:33 +0900, michael noble wrote: Speaking of existing work, I vaguely recall mention of a plugin with a Qt GUI? Where is this, I need one for testing... Take a look at latest svn of CLAM Network Editor. It is apparently able to

Re: [LAD] [ANN] IR: LV2 Convolution Reverb

2011-02-23 Thread Rui Nuno Capela
On Wed, 23 Feb 2011 02:58:56 -0500, David Robillard d...@drobilla.net wrote: On Wed, 2011-02-23 at 12:33 +0900, michael noble wrote: Speaking of existing work, I vaguely recall mention of a plugin with a Qt GUI? Where is this, I need one for testing... Take a look at latest

Re: [LAD] [ANN] IR: LV2 Convolution Reverb

2011-02-23 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On 2/23/11, Philipp Überbacher hollun...@lavabit.com wrote: Again I disagree, in my opinion web UIs have exactly one benefit and many drawbacks. The benefit is that they can be accessed from anywhere with an internet connection and sufficiently capable browser (which is pretty much everywhere

Re: [LAD] [ANN] IR: LV2 Convolution Reverb

2011-02-23 Thread torbenh
On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 09:03:03AM +, Rui Nuno Capela wrote: On Wed, 23 Feb 2011 02:58:56 -0500, David Robillard d...@drobilla.net wrote: On Wed, 2011-02-23 at 12:33 +0900, michael noble wrote: Speaking of existing work, I vaguely recall mention of a plugin with a Qt

Re: [LAD] [ANN] IR: LV2 Convolution Reverb

2011-02-23 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On 2/23/11, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote: I'm thinking mostly about blind users when I talk about accessibility, and I'm not sure how usable graphical browsers are for the blind. Again, it's up to web developers how much efforts they put into making their apps accessible. Oh, and speaking of

Re: [LAD] [ANN] IR: LV2 Convolution Reverb

2011-02-23 Thread David Robillard
On Wed, 2011-02-23 at 11:03 +, Rui Nuno Capela wrote: On Wed, 23 Feb 2011 10:57:25 +0100, torbenh torb...@gmx.de wrote: On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 09:03:03AM +, Rui Nuno Capela wrote: On Wed, 23 Feb 2011 02:58:56 -0500, David Robillard d...@drobilla.net wrote: On Wed, 2011-02-23 at

Re: [LAD] [ANN] IR: LV2 Convolution Reverb

2011-02-23 Thread David Robillard
On Wed, 2011-02-23 at 20:21 +, Chris Cannam wrote: On 9 February 2011 16:49, David Robillard d...@drobilla.net wrote: new librdf-free slv2 Entirely Redland-free, or still using Raptor? Entirely Redland free. I hand-wrote a Turtle parser and serialiser. And: why? In short, it's been a

Re: [LAD] [ANN] IR: LV2 Convolution Reverb

2011-02-23 Thread Gordon JC Pearce
On Wed, 2011-02-23 at 19:55 +0300, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote: For how many years did we have to use Rosegarden/MusE and Ardour *and* Hydrogen simultaneously just to get *basic* DAW functionality only because everyone went on saying things like Oh, this is UNIX philosophy -- do one thing and

Re: [LAD] [ANN] IR: LV2 Convolution Reverb

2011-02-23 Thread Paul Davis
On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 5:58 PM, Gordon JC Pearce gordon...@gjcp.net wrote: There is no way in hell I'm going near the utterly fundamentally retarded mess of shit and fail that is Ardour 3. gordon, we love you too. honest. It's a DAW.  It shouldn't have *any* MIDI beyond control automation

Re: [LAD] [ANN] IR: LV2 Convolution Reverb

2011-02-23 Thread David Robillard
On Wed, 2011-02-23 at 22:58 +, Gordon JC Pearce wrote: On Wed, 2011-02-23 at 19:55 +0300, Alexandre Prokoudine wrote: For how many years did we have to use Rosegarden/MusE and Ardour *and* Hydrogen simultaneously just to get *basic* DAW functionality only because everyone went on

Re: [LAD] [ANN] IR: LV2 Convolution Reverb

2011-02-23 Thread Gordon JC Pearce
On Wed, 2011-02-23 at 19:11 -0500, Paul Davis wrote: On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 5:58 PM, Gordon JC Pearce gordon...@gjcp.net wrote: There is no way in hell I'm going near the utterly fundamentally retarded mess of shit and fail that is Ardour 3. gordon, we love you too. honest. Oh, that

Re: [LAD] [ANN] IR: LV2 Convolution Reverb

2011-02-23 Thread Paul Davis
On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 7:33 PM, Gordon JC Pearce gordon...@gjcp.net wrote: What happened to the idea of doing one thing, and doing it well?  I'm not even totally sold on the idea of having the recorder and mixer in the same app... you probably want ayyi then. except ... oh well. To that

Re: [LAD] [ANN] IR: LV2 Convolution Reverb

2011-02-23 Thread Paul Davis
On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 7:39 PM, Paul Davis p...@linuxaudiosystems.com wrote: On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 7:33 PM, Gordon JC Pearce gordon...@gjcp.net wrote: What happened to the idea of doing one thing, and doing it well? oh, and to answer that question: what happened was huge great boatloads of

Re: [LAD] [ANN] IR: LV2 Convolution Reverb

2011-02-23 Thread Alexandre Prokoudine
On 2/24/11, Gordon JC Pearce wrote: It's a DAW. It shouldn't have *any* MIDI beyond control automation and some idea of sync. Leave that to a sequencer. I think I know your next argument: we don't need virtual instruments as plug-ins, eh? And while at that, let's dump lash/ladish crap

Re: [LAD] [ANN] IR: LV2 Convolution Reverb

2011-02-22 Thread Rui Nuno Capela
On Mon, 21 Feb 2011 21:55:04 -0500, David Robillard d...@drobilla.net wrote: On Mon, 2011-02-21 at 23:18 +, Rui Nuno Capela wrote: [Snip a bunch of irrelevant hand-wavey noise about the past that completely ignores all discussion about the solution] ... I have described the various cons

Re: [LAD] [ANN] IR: LV2 Convolution Reverb

2011-02-22 Thread Fons Adriaensen
On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 09:14:31PM -0500, Paul Davis wrote: On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 6:12 PM, Fons Adriaensen f...@linuxaudio.org wrote: This excludes Windows (TM), but again, I couln't care less. It also excludes OS X, which despite having X11 support isn't really what you mean by

Re: [LAD] [ANN] IR: LV2 Convolution Reverb

2011-02-22 Thread Fons Adriaensen
On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 09:26:09PM -0500, David Robillard wrote: It is obviously not useful to have hundreds of plugin UI windows open at once anyway. Unless they are embedded instead of being separate top level windows. If you're on an X11 system, then you can use X11 as a base to support

Re: [LAD] [ANN] IR: LV2 Convolution Reverb

2011-02-22 Thread Nick Copeland
ATM it doesn't even provide network transparency. Which means you can't even do the equivalent of ssh -X. Does anybody even use this feature anymore? It is another pet beef, though. Most Linux desktop distributions disable the TCP connections to the X server anyway so the features of '-X'

Re: [LAD] [ANN] IR: LV2 Convolution Reverb

2011-02-22 Thread Tom Szilagyi
On 22 February 2011 13:45, Nick Copeland nickycopel...@hotmail.com wrote: ATM it doesn't even provide network transparency. Which means you can't even do the equivalent of ssh -X. Does anybody even use this feature anymore? All the time. It is an essential remote administration tool in the

Re: [LAD] [ANN] IR: LV2 Convolution Reverb

2011-02-22 Thread Fons Adriaensen
On Tue, Feb 22, 2011 at 01:45:35PM +0100, Nick Copeland wrote: ATM it doesn't even provide network transparency. Which means you can't even do the equivalent of ssh -X. Does anybody even use this feature anymore? It is another pet beef, though. Most Linux desktop distributions disable

Re: [LAD] [ANN] IR: LV2 Convolution Reverb

2011-02-22 Thread Paul Davis
On Tue, Feb 22, 2011 at 8:46 AM, Nick Copeland nickycopel...@hotmail.com wrote: To come back to the original thread, X11 is very old in the tooth. It is based on assumptions that are not longer valid and the result is a pretty cumbersome solution. It was written before reasonable foundations

Re: [LAD] [ANN] IR: LV2 Convolution Reverb

2011-02-22 Thread Rui Nuno Capela
On 02/22/2011 05:38 PM, David Robillard wrote: Speaking of existing work, I vaguely recall mention of a plugin with a Qt GUI? Where is this, I need one for testing... afaict, there's none i recall there are only two lv2 ui (sub)extensions in use, to my knowledge of course, and you probably

Re: [LAD] [ANN] IR: LV2 Convolution Reverb

2011-02-22 Thread Stefano D'Angelo
2011/2/22 David Robillard d...@drobilla.net: On Tue, 2011-02-22 at 04:52 +, Jeremy Salwen wrote: [...] Hi David, As a plugin developer, I'm very much looking forward to this, especially since I proposed something similar to this a bit ago

Re: [LAD] [ANN] IR: LV2 Convolution Reverb

2011-02-22 Thread Gabriel M. Beddingfield
On Tue, 22 Feb 2011, Philipp Überbacher wrote: I'm not sure it helps to talk about wayland, it seems to be very much future music. It seems ubuntu and fedora talk about a year or so, but after reading up about its current state (three years of development so No, it's very much going to

Re: [LAD] [ANN] IR: LV2 Convolution Reverb

2011-02-22 Thread Paul Davis
On Tue, Feb 22, 2011 at 1:50 PM, Stefano D'Angelo zanga.m...@gmail.com wrote: I didn't follow the whole discussion, but I just want to toss out one not-so-stupid-as-it-may-seem possibility: HTML + CSS + JS. Take a look at YUI. I wrote an XML schema for plugin GUIs, oh, about 8 years ago.

Re: [LAD] [ANN] IR: LV2 Convolution Reverb

2011-02-22 Thread David Robillard
On Tue, 2011-02-22 at 18:32 +, Rui Nuno Capela wrote: On 02/22/2011 05:38 PM, David Robillard wrote: Speaking of existing work, I vaguely recall mention of a plugin with a Qt GUI? Where is this, I need one for testing... afaict, there's none i recall there are only two lv2 ui

Re: [LAD] [ANN] IR: LV2 Convolution Reverb

2011-02-22 Thread David Robillard
On Tue, 2011-02-22 at 19:50 +0100, Stefano D'Angelo wrote: 2011/2/22 David Robillard d...@drobilla.net: On Tue, 2011-02-22 at 04:52 +, Jeremy Salwen wrote: [...] Hi David, As a plugin developer, I'm very much looking forward to this, especially since I proposed something similar

Re: [LAD] [ANN] IR: LV2 Convolution Reverb

2011-02-22 Thread David Robillard
On Tue, 2011-02-22 at 13:55 -0500, Paul Davis wrote: On Tue, Feb 22, 2011 at 1:50 PM, Stefano D'Angelo zanga.m...@gmail.com wrote: I didn't follow the whole discussion, but I just want to toss out one not-so-stupid-as-it-may-seem possibility: HTML + CSS + JS. Take a look at YUI. I

Re: [LAD] [ANN] IR: LV2 Convolution Reverb

2011-02-22 Thread Philipp Überbacher
Excerpts from Paul Davis's message of 2011-02-22 17:57:44 +0100: On Tue, Feb 22, 2011 at 11:48 AM, Philipp Überbacher hollun...@lavabit.com wrote: I'm not sure it helps to talk about wayland, it seems to be very much future music. It seems ubuntu and fedora talk about a year or so, but

Re: [LAD] [ANN] IR: LV2 Convolution Reverb

2011-02-22 Thread Jörn Nettingsmeier
On 02/22/2011 01:45 PM, Nick Copeland wrote: ATM it doesn't even provide network transparency. Which means you can't even do the equivalent of ssh -X. Does anybody even use this feature anymore? fwiw, 50% of my audio work happens on a laptop that i use to ssh into my audio workstation.

Re: [LAD] [ANN] IR: LV2 Convolution Reverb

2011-02-22 Thread Paul Giblock
Dave, I do some work in Qt. Primarily helping to port Lmms to Qt4. I am now working on a successor. This host is in Qt4 and uses lv2 as the primary plugin api. I desire embedded plugins, so this topic is close to my heart. Anyways, I would name the URI after Qt4 instead of simply Qt. Qt breaks

Re: [LAD] [ANN] IR: LV2 Convolution Reverb

2011-02-22 Thread Philipp Überbacher
Excerpts from David Robillard's message of 2011-02-22 21:28:03 +0100: On Tue, 2011-02-22 at 19:50 +0100, Stefano D'Angelo wrote: 2011/2/22 David Robillard d...@drobilla.net: On Tue, 2011-02-22 at 04:52 +, Jeremy Salwen wrote: [...] Hi David, As a plugin developer, I'm very

Re: [LAD] [ANN] IR: LV2 Convolution Reverb

2011-02-22 Thread David Robillard
On Tue, 2011-02-22 at 17:22 -0500, Paul Giblock wrote: Dave, I do some work in Qt. Primarily helping to port Lmms to Qt4. I am now working on a successor. This host is in Qt4 and uses lv2 as the primary plugin api. I desire embedded plugins, so this topic is close to my heart. Anyways,

Re: [LAD] [ANN] IR: LV2 Convolution Reverb

2011-02-22 Thread Gabriel M. Beddingfield
On Tuesday, February 22, 2011 07:20:35 pm David Robillard wrote: OK, thanks. Does anyone care about 3 any more? No. Qt3 reached EOL a couple years ago, and even the Qt3Support library in Qt4 is (unofficially) deprecated. -gabriel ___

Re: [LAD] [ANN] IR: LV2 Convolution Reverb

2011-02-22 Thread Paul Giblock
Yeah, I was thinking the something regarding gtk. Too late to change it though. I suppose the next one will just be versioned. And you are right. Nobody cares about 3 anymore, except for backwards compatibility. There is no reason to pull that into the UI spec, though, as there are no Qt3 lv2

Re: [LAD] [ANN] IR: LV2 Convolution Reverb

2011-02-22 Thread David Cornette
On Tue, Feb 22, 2011 at 01:45:35PM +0100, Nick Copeland wrote: ATM it doesn't even provide network transparency. Which means you can't even do the equivalent of ssh -X. Does anybody even use this feature anymore? Are you kidding? All the time.

Re: [LAD] [ANN] IR: LV2 Convolution Reverb

2011-02-22 Thread michael noble
Speaking of existing work, I vaguely recall mention of a plugin with a Qt GUI? Where is this, I need one for testing... Take a look at latest svn of CLAM Network Editor. It is apparently able to export networks as LV2 with a Qt GUI. See http://clam-project.org/wiki/Development_screenshots -m

Re: [LAD] [ANN] IR: LV2 Convolution Reverb

2011-02-21 Thread David Robillard
On Wed, 2011-02-09 at 20:05 +, Rui Nuno Capela wrote: On 02/09/2011 04:49 PM, David Robillard wrote: On Fri, 2011-01-14 at 21:29 +0100, Tom Szilagyi wrote: Regarding LV2 hosts other than Ardour: the second in the above list of fixes should help, however please be aware that IR is at

Re: [LAD] [ANN] IR: LV2 Convolution Reverb

2011-02-21 Thread David Robillard
On Fri, 2011-01-14 at 23:05 +0100, f...@kokkinizita.net wrote: On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 11:29:06AM +0100, Tom Szilagyi wrote: On 14 January 2011 09:44, Philipp Überbacher hollun...@lavabit.com wrote: Is it really ardour-specific? Would be a pity. I'm aware that there's a lack of

Re: [LAD] [ANN] IR: LV2 Convolution Reverb

2011-02-21 Thread David Robillard
On Thu, 2011-02-10 at 12:53 -0500, Paul Coccoli wrote: On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 11:49 AM, David Robillard d...@drobilla.net wrote: FWIW, I would not do this. The external UI extension is the wrong way of going about this, and momentum towards it is very worrysome... We need an abstraction

Re: [LAD] [ANN] IR: LV2 Convolution Reverb

2011-02-21 Thread Rui Nuno Capela
On 02/21/2011 07:20 PM, David Robillard wrote: On Wed, 2011-02-09 at 20:05 +, Rui Nuno Capela wrote: On 02/09/2011 04:49 PM, David Robillard wrote: On Fri, 2011-01-14 at 21:29 +0100, Tom Szilagyi wrote: Regarding LV2 hosts other than Ardour: the second in the above list of fixes should

Re: [LAD] [ANN] IR: LV2 Convolution Reverb

2011-02-21 Thread Fons Adriaensen
On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 02:30:25PM -0500, David Robillard wrote: I just did a simple test: * added a few lines ( 10) of code to jaaa, * started Ardour and opened its 'Locations' window, * and had jaaa running within it in seconds. And that's wihout any cooperation from Ardour. A

Re: [LAD] [ANN] IR: LV2 Convolution Reverb

2011-02-21 Thread David Robillard
On Mon, 2011-02-21 at 20:27 +, Rui Nuno Capela wrote: On 02/21/2011 07:20 PM, David Robillard wrote: On Wed, 2011-02-09 at 20:05 +, Rui Nuno Capela wrote: [...] what has, and still is, outrageously wrong is that utter cannot-say-what stickiness to gtk gore over the lv2-ui

Re: [LAD] [ANN] IR: LV2 Convolution Reverb

2011-02-21 Thread Fons Adriaensen
On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 05:56:58PM -0500, David Robillard wrote: It is also not portable (depends on X11), I don't care about any system that doesn't support X11. I don't even care about some that do. Which is why yours is a poor solution. It loses much, and gains little if

Re: [LAD] [ANN] IR: LV2 Convolution Reverb

2011-02-21 Thread David Robillard
On Mon, 2011-02-21 at 22:53 +, Rui Nuno Capela wrote: On 02/21/2011 08:32 PM, Paul Davis wrote: On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 3:27 PM, Rui Nuno Capela rn...@rncbc.org wrote: alas, for some reason, calf and linuxdsp are using it and with great success. should i say more? maybe not.

Re: [LAD] [ANN] IR: LV2 Convolution Reverb

2011-02-21 Thread Paul Davis
On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 6:12 PM, Fons Adriaensen f...@linuxaudio.org wrote: This excludes Windows (TM), but again, I couln't care less. It also excludes OS X, which despite having X11 support isn't really what you mean by supports X11. at some point, focusing on X11 will also start to exclude

Re: [LAD] [ANN] IR: LV2 Convolution Reverb

2011-02-21 Thread David Robillard
On Mon, 2011-02-21 at 23:12 +, Fons Adriaensen wrote: On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 05:56:58PM -0500, David Robillard wrote: It is also not portable (depends on X11), I don't care about any system that doesn't support X11. I don't even care about some that do. Which is why

Re: [LAD] [ANN] IR: LV2 Convolution Reverb

2011-02-21 Thread David Robillard
On Mon, 2011-02-21 at 23:18 +, Rui Nuno Capela wrote: [Snip a bunch of irrelevant hand-wavey noise about the past that completely ignores all discussion about the solution] anyway, the lv2 ui extension _needs_ to be extended. to be de facto toolkit agnostic. No, again, it does not. Not a

Re: [LAD] [ANN] IR: LV2 Convolution Reverb

2011-02-21 Thread David Robillard
On Mon, 2011-02-21 at 21:14 -0500, Paul Davis wrote: On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 6:12 PM, Fons Adriaensen f...@linuxaudio.org wrote: This excludes Windows (TM), but again, I couln't care less. It also excludes OS X, which despite having X11 support isn't really what you mean by supports X11.

Re: [LAD] [ANN] IR: LV2 Convolution Reverb

2011-02-21 Thread Jeremy Salwen
On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 7:20 PM, David Robillard d...@drobilla.net wrote: On Wed, 2011-02-09 at 20:05 +, Rui Nuno Capela wrote: On 02/09/2011 04:49 PM, David Robillard wrote: On Fri, 2011-01-14 at 21:29 +0100, Tom Szilagyi wrote: Regarding LV2 hosts other than Ardour: the second

Re: [LAD] [ANN] IR: LV2 Convolution Reverb

2011-02-10 Thread Paul Coccoli
On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 11:49 AM, David Robillard d...@drobilla.net wrote: FWIW, I would not do this.  The external UI extension is the wrong way of going about this, and momentum towards it is very worrysome...  We need an abstraction layer (i.e. a library) to provide the ability for any UI to

Re: [LAD] [ANN] IR: LV2 Convolution Reverb

2011-02-09 Thread David Robillard
On Fri, 2011-01-14 at 21:29 +0100, Tom Szilagyi wrote: Hi all, after a day of intense work and testing, I present you a corrected version of IR. Version 1.1 contains these important fixes: * really use the user's homedir for storing the .ir_save file * proper GType and GThread

Re: [LAD] [ANN] IR: LV2 Convolution Reverb

2011-02-09 Thread Rui Nuno Capela
On 02/09/2011 04:49 PM, David Robillard wrote: On Fri, 2011-01-14 at 21:29 +0100, Tom Szilagyi wrote: Regarding LV2 hosts other than Ardour: the second in the above list of fixes should help, however please be aware that IR is at the moment really not usable without its own GTK UI. In future

Re: [LAD] [ANN] IR: LV2 Convolution Reverb

2011-01-15 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Fri, 2011-01-14 at 09:44 +0100, Philipp Überbacher wrote: Excerpts from Tom Szilagyi's message of 2011-01-13 19:37:21 +0100: Hi all, Standing on the shoulders of giants[*], I am pleased to announce the public release of IR, a convolution reverb in the LV2 plugin format. Released as

Re: [LAD] [ANN] IR: LV2 Convolution Reverb

2011-01-15 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sat, 2011-01-15 at 13:22 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Fri, 2011-01-14 at 09:44 +0100, Philipp Überbacher wrote: Excerpts from Tom Szilagyi's message of 2011-01-13 19:37:21 +0100: Hi all, Standing on the shoulders of giants[*], I am pleased to announce the public release of IR,

Re: [LAD] [ANN] IR: LV2 Convolution Reverb

2011-01-15 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sat, 2011-01-15 at 13:30 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Sat, 2011-01-15 at 13:22 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Fri, 2011-01-14 at 09:44 +0100, Philipp Überbacher wrote: Excerpts from Tom Szilagyi's message of 2011-01-13 19:37:21 +0100: Hi all, Standing on the shoulders of

Re: [LAD] [ANN] IR: LV2 Convolution Reverb

2011-01-14 Thread Philipp Überbacher
Excerpts from Tom Szilagyi's message of 2011-01-13 19:37:21 +0100: Hi all, Standing on the shoulders of giants[*], I am pleased to announce the public release of IR, a convolution reverb in the LV2 plugin format. Released as free software under the GNU GPL, this easy to use plugin has been

Re: [LAD] [ANN] IR: LV2 Convolution Reverb

2011-01-14 Thread Tom Szilagyi
On 14 January 2011 09:44, Philipp Überbacher hollun...@lavabit.com wrote: Is it really ardour-specific? Would be a pity. I'm aware that there's a lack of hosts, but if it's already so bad that a plugin is only supported in a single host, well, good night LV2. IR is not really Ardour specific.

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