[linux-audio-dev] Performance utilities of the future.

2003-10-21 Thread Robert Jonsson
Hi, This seems like an interesting article, describeing a new kernel service/application in 2.6. http://www-106.ibm.com/developerworks/library/l-oprof.html?ca=dnt-441 It's called OProfiler. OProfile can help you identify issues such as loop unrolling, poor cache utilization, inefficient

[linux-audio-dev] GMPI - requirements

2003-10-21 Thread Tim Hockin
One of my tasks as part of GMPI is to provide a draft of the requirements doc. I turn tp you all. If you have requirements that you think should be in GMPI - please let me know. These have to be requirements. Not handwaving though explosions, and not wishful dreaming. Things that are required

Re: [linux-audio-dev] GMPI - requirements

2003-10-21 Thread horsh
Well it's just requirements? Then what about : 1) jack-transport-like and 2) LADCCA-like functionality? the requirement resolution could sound as: GMPI does not need such functionality, but if it souns as GMPI _does_ need... then it would be very welcome. horsh

Re: [linux-audio-dev] JACK tutorial

2003-10-21 Thread james
On Mon, 20 Oct, 2003 at 08:02AM -0400, Paul Davis spake thus: I've recently been learning to use JACK, and I had a look around for some kind of introductory article. I couldn't find one, so I wrote the tutorial I would have wanted, as I learnt. The tutorial is here:

Re: [linux-audio-dev] JACK tutorial

2003-10-21 Thread james
On Mon, 20 Oct, 2003 at 01:19PM +0200, Mathias Lundgren spake thus: Great, great, great! Thanks a lot! IMHO, documentation like this one is definitely needed and something we're currently lacking. I've only skimmed it, but I'm going to read it more thoroughly later on, since it's stuff I

[linux-audio-dev] some more GMPI thoughts

2003-10-21 Thread horsh
1)is API monolithous or there are sub-APIs like GMPI-audio, GMPI-seq, GMPI-control 2) Explicit versioning for API? 3) Explicit versioning for plugins? 4) uniq IDs for plugins? who is authority? 5) format for plugin state saving: XML? (damn its ugly!) I vote for more YAML-like

[linux-audio-dev] Re: Performance utilities of the future.

2003-10-21 Thread Andrew Burgess
This seems like an interesting article, describeing a new kernel service/application in 2.6. .. http://www-106.ibm.com/developerworks/library/l-oprof.html?ca=dnt-441 .. It's called OProfiler. Its not new, I used it at least a year ago. It works in 2.4

[linux-audio-dev] drivel

2003-10-21 Thread Paul Davis
http://aes.harmony-central.com/115AES/Content/Blue/PR/Bluebird.html

Re: [linux-audio-dev] GMPI - requirements

2003-10-21 Thread Joern Nettingsmeier
Tim Hockin wrote: One of my tasks as part of GMPI is to provide a draft of the requirements doc. I turn tp you all. If you have requirements that you think should be in GMPI - please let me know. These have to be requirements. Not handwaving though explosions, and not wishful dreaming. Things

Re: [linux-audio-dev] drivel

2003-10-21 Thread Joern Nettingsmeier
Paul Davis wrote: http://aes.harmony-central.com/115AES/Content/Blue/PR/Bluebird.html hey paul, how about getting neumann to sell their large diaphragms bundled with an ardour live evaluation cd ? beat digidesign where it hurts most: in the packaging ;- -- Progress (n.): The process through

Re: [linux-audio-dev] drivel

2003-10-21 Thread Paul Davis
Paul Davis wrote: http://aes.harmony-central.com/115AES/Content/Blue/PR/Bluebird.html hey paul, how about getting neumann to sell their large diaphragms bundled with an ardour live evaluation cd ? beat digidesign where it hurts most: in the packaging ;- i said it was drivel because it is. i

Re: [linux-audio-dev] GMPI - requirements

2003-10-21 Thread Tim Hockin
On Tue, Oct 21, 2003 at 05:17:24PM +0400, horsh wrote: 1) jack-transport-like and 2) LADCCA-like functionality? Those are not requirements, they're wishlist items. What are the requirements? Break it down to a set of statements that say something like GMPI must provide... or GMPI should

Re: [linux-audio-dev] some more GMPI thoughts

2003-10-21 Thread Tim Hockin
On Tue, Oct 21, 2003 at 06:43:14PM +0400, horsh wrote: 1)is API monolithous or there are sub-APIs like GMPI-audio, GMPI-seq, GMPI-control These are requirements. It's not time to decide such things. Hopefully, it's one main API, with as few as possible support APIs (which are required so

Re: [linux-audio-dev] GMPI - requirements

2003-10-21 Thread Tim Hockin
On Tue, Oct 21, 2003 at 06:51:16PM +0200, Joern Nettingsmeier wrote: * it should be elegant, or even beautiful * it should be fun to program with Can't exactly put that in a requirements doc, though I think it is on my mind :) * it *must* be easy to support in host applications This is

Re: [linux-audio-dev] drivel

2003-10-21 Thread Paul Winkler
On Tue, Oct 21, 2003 at 01:16:52PM -0400, Paul Davis wrote: Paul Davis wrote: http://aes.harmony-central.com/115AES/Content/Blue/PR/Bluebird.html hey paul, how about getting neumann to sell their large diaphragms bundled with an ardour live evaluation cd ? beat digidesign where it hurts

Re: [linux-audio-dev] GMPI - requirements

2003-10-21 Thread Steve Harris
On Tue, Oct 21, 2003 at 11:23:22 -0700, Tim Hockin wrote: * it *must not* force any particular choice of toolkit or language upon the implementer of either the host or the plugin The API will be C. GUI has not been discussed much.. Except that it will be a distinct object, not

Re: [linux-audio-dev] some more GMPI thoughts

2003-10-21 Thread Steve Harris
On Tue, Oct 21, 2003 at 11:20:04 -0700, Tim Hockin wrote: 2) Explicit versioning for API? Versioning of...? The API I expect, this is necceasry to allow multli API plugins (LADSPA want versioned and is now). A #define is enough. 4) uniq IDs for plugins? who is authority? Not

Re: [linux-audio-dev] some more GMPI thoughts

2003-10-21 Thread Tim Hockin
On Tue, Oct 21, 2003 at 07:50:38PM +0100, Steve Harris wrote: We're not designing solutions, just requirements, right now. It's fine to have a solution to a requirement, but remember that this is a bigger group. I don't even know what YAML is. XML is a somewhat obvious answer for

[linux-audio-dev] Re: drivel

2003-10-21 Thread Love Bucket
Paul Davis wrote: http://aes.harmony-central.com/115AES/Content/Blue/PR/Bluebird.html As opposed to this (PDF link)? http://ardour.sourceforge.net/manual.pdf __ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com